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A Close Up View of the Carnage

Yes, Raider Nation, I was there yesterday and was an eyewitness to the gruesome spectacle. 

It was ugly.  It was horrifying.  It left me speechless.

But enough about the lady sitting on my right!  BA-DUM-PING!

After the jump, I offer a random of assortment of thoughts on yesterday's debacle that I was "privileged" enough to see in person.

Star-divide

 

-I don’t know how it looked on TV, but after watching this performance live, I am done with Jason Campbell.

He was victimized by some drops and bad receiver play, yes. The offensive line couldn’t block dry leaves blowing in the breeze, I agree. But it was more than that. He was, to be blunt, playing scared. A QB has got to be the leader of the offense. That means when the other people are playing like crap, he needs to take his beating, stay positive and keep encouraging everyone.

There was nothing of that in Jason Campbell yesterday. Nothing. I kept an eye on him on the sidelines through my binoculars. His body language bespoke demoralization. He sat on the benches with his head down. When he walked on the field, it was like a man going to his execution. Facing the Steelers’ pass rush, he was like a girl trapped by Roethlisberger in a bathroom.

Honestly, I have never seen a QB look that defeated since the famous incident when Jim Everett went down on his own before a phantom pass rush. Without exaggeration, I expected Campbell to do the same thing. The Steelers fans around me were saying it too. Stuff like “He’s broken.” “He’s done.” “If they want a shot, they should put Gradkowski in.”

This in the second quarter, mind you.

-Bruce Gradkowski. I’m a Grads supporter, I admit that. I’m not going to tell you he’s the end all be all of QBs. Nor am I going to claim he played great yesterday. But, goddammit, the difference in the offense was noticeable. The players seemed to have some purpose at least. Gradkowski was pretty good at evading the rush and extending the play. The fact that he was only sacked twice is a testament to his escapability.

He actually moved the chains a bit. When Bush broke off that decent run, my mother–who, though a lifelong Raider fan, is no football strategist, I assure you–turned to me and said “See what can happen when they have to respect the passing game?”

The interception was a huge kick in the crotch, but Polamalu read the play and jumped the route perfectly. It’s what he does and is why he’s one of the best. I hope yesterday laid to rest any idea that he was overrated, which is a sentiment I had seen floating around.

-When it comes to skills, I don't know if Campbell is significantly better than Gradkowski or vice versa.  But I do know this:  all else being equal, give me the leader who tries to rally the team around him under adversity rather than behaving like a whipped dog.

-Offensive line. Just appalling. Veldheer got abused by James Harrison, although I rather expected that. He did manage to hold his own better as the game went on, I thought. He’s a 3rd round rookie and needs to learn. I’m not gonna bag him too hard.

That right side of the line, though, is just a catastrophe. They might as well not have been there. Carlisle is a disgrace and while Walker may be able to run block still, he cannot handle the pass rushing OLBs that 3-4 defenses bring. He’s too fat and slow and old.

-Receivers and tight ends. VOMIT. Murphy is regressing badly. There’s no way Zach Miller was at 100 percent. He didn’t make some catches that he normally makes.  Ford and Higgins looked lost. The whole receiving corps was a joke yesterday. Roethlisberger’s receivers made some nice catches for him. The Raiders’ receivers let both QBs down. 

If you survey all the coaches of all the positions of all the teams in the NFL, you will find no bigger joke than Sanjay Lal.  Go look at his bio on Raiders.com sometime and tell me how this guy is qualified to be a wide receiver coach at the pro level.  I literally laughed out loud the first time I read it.  This organization has gone "all-in" on the youth movement at WR, declining to bring in any veterans for a look in the off-season.  Sanjay Lal is NOT the man who should be teaching them during this critical development phase.  He needs to be taken away from them as soon as possible. 

-Running game. Ugly, but not unexpected. Hard to run on the Steelers regardless and when you get down like that, you pretty much have to abandon it.

-Defensive line. Got dominated and they should all be ashamed. The Steelers were fielding a patchwork O-line and the D-line stll got their asses kicked. I was pleasantly surprised at Big John Henderson. He seemed to be the only guy still trying, although I appreciated Houston’s consistent effort too.  Lamarr is really coming along with 11 tackles, 2 sacks and a forced fumble the last 3 games. It seemed to me Kelly, Bryant and Shaughnessy all quit.

Seymour needs to know better than to do what he did, but at the same time…it was pretty awesome to see Roethlisberger get decked, I have to admit.

-This was McClain’s worst game of his career so far, I think. He always looked two or three steps slow out there. He was hesitant to make quick reads and decisions. (So much for “cutting it loose”) He wasn’t getting the defense lined up promptly and in good order; I noticed a lot of confusion. Yeah, he led the team in tackles, but so what? Usually the MLB will.

-Secondary. This is my biggest point here: anyone who still thinks Nnamdi isn’t critical to this defense, please go sit on a chainsaw. Chris Johnson was a horror show. I know Jeremy Ware is only a rookie, but he was covering another rookie in Emmanuel Sanders and still got worked. Did we even suit up safeties? Seriously.  They were invisible.

-Special teams. Useless. I lost a lot of faith in Nick Miller yesterday.

-Coaching. An absolute farce. These guys should be more ashamed of themselves than the players, if that’s possible. Two weeks to work and this is the best you can come up with?

I saw Travis Goethel trying to cover Mike Wallace. Are you fucking kidding me? How do you allow that, Marshall? I understand your secondary was getting roasted yesterday, but they were also getting destroyed against San Diego and you still brought the blitzes then.

Where’s the playbook, Hue? Where was the Wildcat, the screens? Where were the attempts to utilize DMac in the passing game and maybe get him into space? Where was Marcel Reece?

And you, Tom Cable. I watched him at several points throughout the game. He was always standing by himself, no one within five feet of him and with a dumbass look on his face.  How about, I don't know...coaching?

-John Henderson, Lamarr Houston and Seabass (he made his field goal!) are the only Raiders who shouldn't probably be forced to return their game checks to Al.  The effort was that patheticly embarrassing.

-There is zero reliable depth on this team.  If Satele were to get injured, we'd have to move our starting left tackle over, for chrissakes.  Carlisle is a catastrophe, but the only option behind him is a raw, 4th round rookie who's never played the position.  Ricky Brown is horrible, but he's the only backup at MLB.  Sam fucking Williams is listed as #2 on the depth chart at strongside linebacker.  Without Asomugha, the secondary...well, we all saw yesterday.    Now that Scott may be done for the year, the Raiders only have 2 defensive ends on the roster.

-The defensed seemed to bite hard on every play fake and misdirection yesterday. Discipline, boys!  It's especially worrisome because Miami was watching that game closely, you know.  They're hungry for a win and a gameplan full of misdirection and bootlegs is well suited to Tyler Thigpen's skills.  Having Ronnie Brown doesn't hurt either.

-Back to the crappy coaching for a second. We’re hurting at WR and Bush is a better fit to run against a team like the Steelers. So why not use DMac exclusively out wide and use Bush as the RB throughout the game?  They've gotta use their talent to create the best matchups possible.

-I could offer more, but I've exhausted myself.  I thank you for your time. 

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Saw it too....

We were in the 511 section..great seats on the Raiders side. Thats where we were punished…lol..

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Nov 22, 2010 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

Well said. I saw this too, and on TV!!!! Some here don't belive in leadership or fieryness and

they just call me a “Grads cult” guy. Fuck them, they obviously are on his JC’s jock, i’ve been saying this since last week, I knew this would happen.
Maybe Grads isn’t the guy either, but I know he can manage this system better than JC can.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 22, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, you’re right. It’s so obvious. Seeing Grad has led us to what? 2 wins? Both of which we’re won on either a lucky play(Meyers stipped ball) or a failed team(‘09 Steelers). So please, just shut up already. Untill you people actually bring some cold hard facts to the table, you’re just going to continue to fail.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 22, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

JaKe? Were you there? Do you believe Raybin and Villapiano are talking non-sense and they

were not watching the game?
These are the cold hard facts, stop calling a guy who went to the game and saw the game closeup a liar.
Fuck you man, go to the game and gets some damn Binos so you can see for yourself.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 22, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Even if Grads sucks, then lets replace them, I already knew JC was not the answer.

And he won’t be. Can Grads be? Most likely no, but I know he plays better and gets DHB and Murph more involved.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 22, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You already knew that? Why weren’t you saying anything after we beat the Chargers then? Or how about the utter stomping of the Bronco’s? Oh, oh, I bet you knew that after we beat the Chiefs, huh? Oh, great wiseman, please tell me more!
 
You guys use anything you can as an scapegoat, and Jason is just the easiest target ‘cause he doesn’t “jump up and chest bump players” or whatever.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 22, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

JaKe

Not using JC as a punching bag or a scapegoat. He looked weak, played weak, and made some bad choices. The O & D lines were dominated by the Steelers. The coverage had a lot of time to cover because JC held onto the ball too long. He was not mobile and he was sacked numerous times…tipped passes, poorly thrown or hurried passes, and even from the stands it was obvious where he was throwing. After seeing him thread passes to DHB and Reece in past games, I was like ‘wtf?’ Bad coaching, bad preparation and we were outplayed and outcoached. It isnt about chest bumping or that BS, it’s about being the right guy for the game. Unfortunately we dont have what other guys call a ‘high caliber’ player at QB. But yesterday, as my buddy and I were just shaking our heads, Cable should have injected Grads at halfway thru the 2nd quarter, not halfway thru the 3rd. Just the facts. It was ugly and depressing to sit in a sea of piss yellow towels and see the raiders play so poor.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Nov 22, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I understand how difficult it is to watch the Raiders lose in person, I had to deal with the week long depression after last years Monday Night loss. But I think Jason has done to much for this team to just be outcasted and benched like that.

You said it yourself.

 Bq.The O & D lines were dominated by the Steelers.

I think it’s safe to say that unless we give Jason or Bruce a decent amount of time to throw, neither can suceed.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Jake - Campbell is overpaid.

Both are mediocre, but if mediocre performance is to be evaluated, I’d prefer the one for which we pay less.

by Spirals galore on Nov 22, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Fan Base and past exploits do not make a winning franchise.

Winning calls for consistent high level of play, not popularity. Your argument that he ‘deserves it’ doesnt hold water. Your closing line about allowing for a decent amount of time actually is true. JC was given too much time in Pittsburgh. He should have been pulled quicker.
I’m sorry you had to deal with a weeks worth of depression. There are things you can take for that. After 44 years of Raiders football, I dont get depressed, I just forward to next week.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Nov 23, 2010 1:10 AM PST up reply actions  

See, now we can agree on one thing

“I think it’s safe to say that unless we give Jason or Bruce a decent amount of time to throw, neither can suceed.”

That is gospel truth.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:15 AM PST up reply actions  

If our O line is not going to give the QB a lot of time to throw

then all the more reason to start Grad who is more mobile and makes quicker decisions. The Steelers dominated our O line the same way last year and Bruce had to juke and move to avoid pressure all day. He did, Jason does not and there in lies the difference.

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 23, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

+1

Excellent comment. Your last sentence is a nice summation of how it felt to be there. Ugh.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:14 AM PST up reply actions  

What were Bruce’s stats against the same exact team on the same exact day again? Oh yeah. Not any better. You can argue that it was “garbage time”, but that doesn’t mean anything. A player plays till the whistle, no matter what the score. So, why didn’t Bruce come in and do his heroic thing? I’ll tell you why. Cause the Steelers are a better team! Whether Bruce started or not, we would’ve lost.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not any better? BS

JaMarcus the 2nd 7 of 19 for 70yds sacked 4 times 1 int QB rating 26.2
Gradkowski 13 of 24 for 98 yds sacked 2 times 1 int. QB rating 46.9

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s like comparing a shit sandwich and a giant douche.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 24, 2010 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Bruce was thrown in with 4 minutes left in the 3rd. He completed 5 passes in a row after not

playing for 5 weeks. There is a vast difference between these two QBs and it shows in the way the entire team responds.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 24, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think Bruce woulda

given us a better shot if he was injected earlier because our OL was playing like crap, and Campbell couldn’t make any of his short passes.

I think the coaches need to think more strategically with our QB’s when it comes to keeping our opponents off balance, and exploiting the element of surprise.

by xville on Nov 22, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

absolutely

we’ve seen flashes. why not consistently?

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Jake... of course I was not going to bring it up, when we win, it is not neccessary.

I was already saying this since the offseason. The only way JC gets us to the SB (or even Playoffs) is if we have legendary O-linemen like Upshaw, Shell, Otto, etc. But we don’t have that man, JC needs time when he make his reads, longer than the average QB or else he will check it or spike it. We’ve seen our line play well, but mainly because Denver blows at pass rushing man, Sea got exposed and SD… I don’t remeber much about that game, but I do believe those two long drives by JC were legit, but i have seen nothing like those plays since. The guy is wildly inconsistent.
I knew this basically when we were talking O-line in the offseason, if we didn’t improve, JC’s style of play would blow with us, as our O-line is not great and he needs a great line. The O-line has progressed though, but I still don’t like how JC has played the last 4 games. But maybe JC’s style of play sucks anyways.
I’ll take my chances with the mobile and fiery Grads.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 22, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That last bolded sentence is the key

Both guys are prone to inaccuracy and bad decisions. Fine. Give me the guy who can evade the rush and keeps encouraging his team rather than folding like a cheap suit

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not even saying for good. Against Pittsburgh the choice was clear

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Watched it closely on television and have it on DVR to watch over and over

and haven’t much yet. I remember the three and out sequences and dropped balls just fine, thank you very much.

Bruce Gradkowski. I’m a Grads supporter, I admit that. I’m not going to tell you he’s the end all be all of QBs. Nor am I going to claim he played great yesterday. But, goddammit, the difference in the offense was noticeable. The players seemed to have some purpose at least. Gradkowski was pretty good at evading the rush and extending the play. The fact that he was only sacked twice is a testament to his escapability.

while I said in a post basically the same thing and believe this to be the biggest factor, the overall personnel decisions were just bad. I’m not saying Bruce is better than JC, either, just that Bruce gave us the better chance to win yesterday. Jason has shown he’s incapable of leading a drive against a D like Pittsburgh’s, with immediate pressure. Bruce knows its coming, and is ready to hit the open guy immediately. I’m not saying he’s perfect, but he was the right guy for the job at the time.

Especially with the qb, but I’m thinking the lack of practice from Murphy, Miller, and other guys coming off injury has everything to do with their poor performances. A week ago, Brady had fits when his team failed to execute simple tasks with drops and poor routes and chastised his teammates accordingly, admonishing them that they cannot make mistakes against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Not only was Jason unable to do that, there wasn’t a guy on our sidelines capable either.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 22, 2010 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

This is what it comes down to with me
I’m not saying Bruce is better than JC, either, just that Bruce gave us the better chance to win yesterday. Jason has shown he’s incapable of leading a drive against a D like Pittsburgh’s, with immediate pressure. Bruce knows its coming, and is ready to hit the open guy immediately. I’m not saying he’s perfect, but he was the right guy for the job at the time.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:09 AM PST up reply actions  

What game has Bruce every done that in

Cause last years team didn’t bring pressure because Troy was out. Bruce has never better any good teams. Last years steelers without Troy sucked. The Bengals and Rams. I know this for a Fact no Defensive coor. is up at night losing sleep Grad or JC. Because they are throwing the ball to BUMS on the outside. I am so sick you guy calling MUrphy a # 1 he wouldn’t even make the Steelers rooster he can’t catch any better than DHB.

by Micheal Y on Nov 23, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Last year against PItt., against Cincy, and against Philly

and the pressure wouldn’t have mattered; Bruce got it out quickly like Ben did against us.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks, dude!

Appreciate the love. Although I have my doubts anyone in the organization, players or otherwise will read it. It helped to vent my spleen, whcih is what I really needed. :)

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:03 AM PST up reply actions  

This game was lost due to bad coaching, and failure to be prepared

for what was coming.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Nov 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions  

Yep and both are inexcusable

Though the players didn’t even execute the crappy gameplan they were handed

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks for saying what I want to say

without cussing everyone out and pissing people off, like I would have done.

as I look above, “bad coaching”, <——- has nothing to do with the fact that Jason Campbell sucks. He is almost as bad as Russell, George, Brooks.

by Sbay on Nov 22, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Hahahaha. Thanks for making my night. Ignorance is the best form of comedy at times.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 22, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I do actually. Is it wrong to laugh at ones jokes? Not at all. You actually made me chuckle with your quick lil one liner there.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 24, 2010 1:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, there was a little bit of cussing

And I appear to have hurt the feelings of a guy who I can only assume to be Jason Campbell’s agent.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:08 AM PST up reply actions  

WE MADE WALLACE LOOK LIKE JERRY RICE!!!

For Christ’s sake, just refund my ticket costs and shut down this pussy franchise!! Bad coaching, bad draft choices, and pansy players. "jUST NO DEFENSE BABY!" Nice highlight of Goethal chasing Wallace! WTF!! Why didn’t we just put a nose tackle on him, couldn’t be any slower than white boy!!

by a2coolraider on Nov 22, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

We're you calling Spirals Galore wrong ...

On account of being a woman the other day?

Just sayin ;)

Anyways, ya gotta admit … the list of even ‘good’, let alone ‘elite’ cover guys in recent league history that are white … is a pretty damn short list.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 24, 2010 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you even a Raider fan?

because you sound like a Queef fan in Raider clothing. Go back to AP asshole!

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 23, 2010 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

A2notcool !!! Take that racist azz thinking back to where ever the fuck u from !!!!

Me myself, have never noticed you here before, and you show up bitching, moaning, whining , (pussy franchise) Can tell, you’re nothing but a bandwagoner !!!

by papabegood on Nov 22, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

Our OL rotation

needs to be better. Let’s get Bruce Campbell in there for some real time experience. Fast, young and strong might help for a few plays once in a while. If he’s a little slow on the uptake, use bigger flashcards: We’re gonna RUN, We’re gonna pass, That guy is gonna try to get around you, That other guy is coming in at an angle, Get in between that big guy, and the guy wearing the same uniform as you. Use puppets if need be.

Our LT rotation should be the norm, to keep the physical intensity up, and to have two tackles collaborate.

We should have had some midfield blocking strategies to neutralize palalooloo, and gotten McFaddy in the game with some slants and short passes. And Campbell should have practiced his short passing.

McClain’s linebacker coach needs to work on McClain’s reads and adjusments as well as his use of space to his advantage. It might also be useful to work on his stride length to give him more explosive versatility. If McClain gets the right coaching, and we have some more plays that utilize the MLB, he could be that force in the middle that scares the opposition into forgetting about the other scary bastards we’ve got.

by xville on Nov 22, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Great comment

LOL’d at the “use bigger flashcards”

Greg Biekert is the linebackers coach, I think, so if anyone can get the best out of McClain eventually it’s him.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2010 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Call University of Oregon-we need those flashcards

"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven

by angelesoterica on Nov 23, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I think sometimes we forget that McClain is a rookie

and is still learning on the fly, I know I do and I have to tell myself that he is just a rookie who is very talented but still has a lot to learn and a lot on his plate. He will improve with time and experience, and become a dominant force for us.

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 23, 2010 7:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Well said, X
Let’s get Bruce Campbell in there for some real time experience

been wondering why we don’t see this guy out there at all. Find it difficult to believe he could be worse than our right side guys now.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I say we draft Colin Kaepernick in the 3rd round

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCJeBchzPA

him or Pat Devlin

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117605

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4SBu8S3IFI

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 23, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

The quick release is one of the few things common amongst almost all of the greats

I like the mechanics, but need to see more of both of these guys to be sold. At the very least, next year’s draft class has more promising qbs than did this year’s, and I’m looking forward to getting some studs on the O line. Hopefully the other Pouncey and also the young Wisniewski.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

So do I ...

Although the magic is mostly in the wrist, and the choice of media …

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 24, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I am leaning toward him as well.

the thing is he plays for Delaware. And I don’t know how good the teams are.

But he seemed to do well against boise state.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 24, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

excuse me

He plays for Nevada

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 24, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Naw ... I dunno know anything about him, but ...

A QB with a British first name and Eastern European-sounding last name … he’ll never turn out to be any good.

And before SOB calls me a racist … I am Eastern European descent, with just such a name!

Naw, I think to be a really good QB you need an old-fashioned American name, preferably one that sounds manly.

See, look how this works …

Good or Great QBs:
Joe Montana, John Elway, Tom Brady, Dan Marino, Ken Stabler, Steve Young, Jim Kelly, Phillip Rivers, Jim Plunkett, Steve McNair, Troy Aikman, Matt Ryan, Randall Cunningham …

Normal, manly-sounding American names.
 
Some Lamer QBs:
Todd Marinovich, Byron Leftwich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Akili Smith, Jamarcus Russell, Gus Frerotte, Matt Leinart, Kelly Stouffer, Cade McNown, Jim Druckenmiller, Art Schlichter

Foreign, girly, or otherwise strange-sounding names.

Notable exceptions include Payton Manning and Donovan McNabb who’s names sound like they should be the ‘Skipper’ on a Yacht somewhere.

Anyways, I say we skip him, on accounta dude’s name just ain’t right … it sounds like ‘Bust’ as it rolls off your tongue.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 24, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

you seriously just evaluated someone's talent by their name?

No no no no no no no and NO!

I understand what you mean, but you CAN’T evaluate ANYBODY just because of their name.

You know Kevin O’Connel? 3rd round draft pick by the pats in 08. He is currently unemployed because of how HORRIBLE he is.

I’m sure their are more QBs that I can name that sound “manly” and are horrible, but I don’t feel like stressing my head over it.

Never evaluate talent based of names.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 24, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Jason Campbell is as Amurrican as they come, when it comes to names

….and you see where that got us this Sunday. :-(

Heads by the score take flight incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, diehard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds and pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, performin live on your hottest block

- Inspectah Deck

by Raider Zealot on Nov 25, 2010 6:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Good post, Raybin

Campbell did look defeated out there. When Bruce came in, he looked rusty, but at least he wasn’t ready to accept defeat on the road. JC is fine when everything’s going his way, but in times of adversity he doesn’t look like a guy you can lean on for strength.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 23, 2010 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

It is almost exactly what I said!

However, stated much differently. This loss isn’t sitting well, as I feel we regressed badly, and saw too much of the Raiders team we wish would just go away for good.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2010 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

We were exposed Sunday

everyone knows how to play us, load the box, and bring the heat. Campbell’s decision making is as slow as his delivery. Rodney Pete part two.
Bruce Gradowski is the only real starter we have period. And it’s not his fault we have a bargain basement WR’s coach.

In the upcoming 2012 season, a top WR coach is more a priority than the draft.

"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "

by RUKidding on Nov 24, 2010 2:41 AM PST reply actions  

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