NFL Week 12, Dolphins @ Raiders: The Horror
by Rich Langford on Nov 29, 2010 3:30 AM PST
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I think that point might have come in the second half, I didn’t see it in the beginning. -Me...and Nnamdi
I am so glad I only watched the first half on Sunday. I hadn't planned on leaving the fine sports establishment I was patronizing, but when your wife invites you on her recently won trip to Hawaii, you feel compelled to hit the beach for surfing, laying in the sun and eating crab. After all, I didn't want to let her down. The trip didn't go exactly as planned though.
I became painfully aware of this, once my head got stuck in the corner and I was no longer free to rock back and forth on the floor and I, like a startled--just past-tensed sleep-walker, came to. And...here's the really lame part--I was not in Hawaii at all. I was still in the same bar in Washington. I was worried something was wrong with me until I noticed three other Raiders fans on the floor. My experience with such events led me quickly to the diagnosis. We had just experienced the Silver and Black-out. It is a viral affliction, efficient enough to eradicate itself by ending the population of its target.
Shivering back to reality, the memories hit my brain with bad editing cuts, flashes of light and the sound of lightning. It was all I could do to keep from vomiting from The Horror. They came on, in nightmare vision. One after the other. First there was the faceless QB chucking ducks from his over-laden horse. Then, running backs dancing, while six guys in white, grope at them and five silver and black dressed, pig tailed little girls just stand there watching. Finally, a giant Dolphin jumped out of the water and crushed a pirate ship...just like those crazy South African Whales.
Driving home, I was self-medicating with delusions. The secondary was hurt. Zach Miller couldn't do as much they hoped and it crippled the offense. The Dolphins got healthy and they are a tough opponent. This kind of game happens. This team just won three games in a row and this is the team that never quits!
Then, like Eva Longoria thinking Tony Parker would not cheat on her, my delusions were shattered. Not only was Tony Parker cheating on me, but he was donkey...wait, I slipped into the wrong character there. Let's try this again. Not only was it not better than what I first thought, but it was supremely far from not better. I'd say it falls into Richard "Balloon-boy" Heene catergory of this-actually-worked-out-far-worse-than-I-thought not better.
Just look at these stats:
Oakland Stats: 550 Units of suck.
Miami Stats: They did something they haven't done since Dan Marino was QB.
"What was that something?" You may ask. "Who cares?" I may say. "...it's not good." Of course, that person may also say, "What happened to Walter McFadden? I liked him. Has he played yet?" At which point I would have to say, "fssst" (that's the karate sound effect I make when I am kicking my foot into someones *hip bone.*I always go for the hip, because I've learned that's where 90 year-old women are most vulnerable.
Wait, back to the horror....
There was way too much familiarity out there on Sunday. The hardest porcupine to swallow had to be that garbage offense looking like the greatest show on turf (that'd be their garbage offense). This was the kind of outing from a team that makes other teams want to play them. And just like that, with one swift pull of the Jenga block, all that bye week enthusiasm comes rapidly crashing down. This had all the signs of a "We lost our purpose and the coach has lost us" meltdown. The most telling thing is in the quotes. Jason Campbell sums it up:
I didn’t understand the whole thing. He explained to me that when Bruce is healthy, fully healthy, he goes back in as the starter. My thing was in the Pittsburgh game, I was like, well he was healthy. ...It’s kind of tough because you’re caught right in between something and you don’t know what’s going on.
Transltion: "blah, blah, don't know who calls the shots, blah, blah. Even if I play crappy, I can just blame it on this looney organization blah, blah, blah." JC isn't the only one.
When pressed about the effects of the merky QB situation, Louis Murphy disclosed:
(I'm) not sure you can get into a rhythm going back and forth. This isn't high school. You gotta spend time with your quarterback.
High School? Did he really just go there? Damn, he really just went there. It's not all bad though. Just look at the even keeled words of Mike Mitchell:
Is everyone on our team going to decide that we’re censoreding around, and are we going to play? But that’s what this game was. It wasn’t coaching. It wasn’t scheme. It wasn’t anything. It was us. If you’re not 100 percent committed, you can’t play. You can’t be with it. That’s what it is. That’s what I gotta say about it. We need everybody on the same page doing it. Every play. That’s what it is.
Ugh! No! Not this again! This team is brutal and evil. They're evital. Just when I thought they were out of ways to hurt me, they find a new one. With great evital precision, they actually made me believe those days were over, but nooooo. Instead of the usual stumble down to inconsequential, this team had the mania to fall off of the New Day Ledge into the Rankor pit.
I could have seen this coming, but I had been willing to let the Pittsburgh game slide. "It was one bad game on the road against a great team...blah blah...put it behind us." Now that thinking looks like "It's my fault they hit me. They promised they'd never hit me again." After the display Sunday, the Raiders made it official that these last two games were more about them than the other team. They would have lost to anyone. They just literally made Chad Henne look like Dan Marino and now the players be speakin' mutiny. The season's over.
Wait, the ill-fated rationalizations have already begun. "With one win, this loss will be forgotten. I felt the same way about the season as I did after the 49ers game and then the Raiders destroyed an AFC West opponent on the road. It's just two bad games. Things are about to get better."
...the beauty in it all, is we’ll make up our minds we want to go out and play. We can still control our own destiny, but playing like that, we don’t control nothing. --Richard Seymour
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Mike Mitchell is the must interview after every game S+B report had some great interviews with him this year
Straight down the line and doesn’t sugar coat nothing and takes responsibility.
First game i havent at least seen a half in a few years now but prob didnt miss much by the sounds, great write up as always noon.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
btw we all should be giving Mr Davis a hell yeah for the Jacoby pick!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
???????????????
what happened to the running game? OH, I know, we have no passing game! So no one gonna worry about it now. and we got to play San Diego next week, not looking good.
I still hold out hope we can get to atleast 7 wins this year.
that was bad loss yesterday
The Horror.....
watching that game was like watching the Texas chain saw massacre,every few minutes blood splatters across the scene.then just when the hot girl is making a break for the open door and freedom, running up to the cop that just showed and she thinks she is saved.BAMM! the big ugly with the mask made of human skin pops up and…..wait for it……. MORE BLOOD!I dont know about noontide and his sudden onslaught of"Black-out"but this game.just like all that blood definitely made me feel ill.
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
So Grad is the starter when he's healthy...
…but he was healthy for the PIT game. So why didn’t he start?
I think Cambell was something like 4-2 as a starter. So…was JC playing the PIT game because it was likely going to be a loss so that it would be easier to justify starting Grad against Miami?
Conspiracy theory, I know. But not too far fetched.
Very far-fetched.
The team was coming off a 3 game win streak, was playing with passion & intensity and was seemingly getting healthy. You think the team would (coaches, players, Al) go into that game thinking it was “likely going to be a loss?” No way. This team wants to win every game. They lost the last 2 games because they played and were coached poorly in many facets of the game.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Of course they want to win every game.
And they set out to do so. But you don’t get to top tier in anything being delusional and completely and lacking objectivity.
There is no question that it’s concievable that the Raiders could have won the PIT game. But they (just like every other sane and rational person in the world) knew that they were the dog going in to that fight and which side they were more than likely (although, not unquestionably) going to come out on.
Before this goes any further. I’m not buying into the above theory. But I am part of the camp that believes JC should have started the game. And I can’t find a logical explaination of why he didn’t.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 29, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
Other than
Cable sicking to his word that Grads was the starter if he was healthy, I don’t understand it either. I would have started JC and pulled the plug if necessary. Like Murphy said after the game, they practiced with JC all week. Chemistry is a good thing… even with JC’s shortcomings, this team needs to be on the same page.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I've never been firmly in the jason or bruce camps
Except for my knee jerk reaction after the niners game. I am now in the jason until we get someone better camp (moot if bruce has a serious injury as reported)
Sorry but bruce just does not have an nfl caliber arm. You don’t have to be able to throw it 80 yards but you damn well better be able to throw it 50. If you can’t, you better be AMAZINGLY accurate to make up for it. Unfortunately, bruce is inaccurate as well. He is a servicable backup who gets exposed if he has to play too long.
We had decent protection yesterday. You can’t blame this on the line. Bruce had time and he flat out sucked ass. It was disappointing to me that he was not held accountable by the coaches the way jason is, and fucking yanked like he deserved to be.
Other thoughts on our qb situation going forward.
Give jason the rest of the year to see if he can show enough to be the guy next year with an upgraded line and one big wr that we need.
I want no part of jake locker although he will be gone before we pick. Mark my words, he will get a gm fired. He’s a great athlete but has bad decision making and accuracy. He will never be a winning qb in the nfl.
If the rumors of newton slipping near the 2nd round are anywhere close to being true, get the guy. I can’t believe the same people high on locker are doubting newton. Similar skill sets (newton superior in every aspect imo) but newton has translated it to wins and success against superior competition.
That said, I bet we end up with kaepernick from nevada in round 3. We all know als fascination with size and speed and this guy fits the bill. tall, runs like the wind, gun for an arm, local boy, but VERY raw for any pro style offense.
I would have him sit behind jason and wildcat him in, even play him some at receiver.
If anybody says"carson palmer" again I will throw up on my computer.
by lchristmas on Nov 29, 2010 10:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions
+1 on the Jake Locker point.
This guy is a bust waiting to happen if anybody is stupid enough to listen to Mel Kiper Jr and draft him. The guy I like is Nick Fohls from AZ. He looked good under pressure last week. He averages more yards per game passing thank Andrew Luck and the only stat that is not in his favor of the two is the sacks taken. That is predictable as he has lesser surrounding talent than Luck.
Trust No One
locker sucks
I don’t see the hype on him even last year when they where saying him or bradford could go 1st. Locker couldn’t hold bradofords jock strap. He is terrible and decsion making and I don’t care what type of scrubs you play with a top teir qb should be able to get any team to a bowl game every year and locker can’t do that so I can’t see him winning in the nfl or even being decent. Now I don’t think we get any qb in the draft unless its mallet and I don’t see us trading up so I don’t think we draft a qb
LOL that's a good joke!
I watched that guy for 4 years at UTEP. He was college football’s answer to Kerry Collins. He was the human interception machine IN COLLEGE!
Trust No One
Carson Palmer can't throw to a WR
Why the hell would his brother be that much better and sitting on the bench?
Hickory,Dickory Dock.
The time ran off the clock. the Dolphins won,cause they stuffed our run ,Hickory Dickory dock.
We are just not good enough to hang with the good-elite teams in this league yet. Miami,elite? No, but they are in a division where they play the likes of the Pats and Jets twice a year and getting the shit kicked out of them by those two proved we were merely a walk in the park sunday. I know, wait till “Chazz” gets back then…….. what ? He’s hurt again? Well we can just have D.H.B. take his place and we won’t miss a beat! He DOES play for us still ,right? Johnnie Lee WHO? Lewis Murphy made quite a few catches in the last 5 minutes of the game…….up until the interception that is.
Our offense is TERRIBLE,period. When your Defense is on the field for roughly 3 fucking quarters of the game you will lose,no matter how often you cycle people in and out. I say the Raiders switch D.H.B.‘s salary for Ford’s ,at least the kid tries and PRODUCES. Maybe D.H.B. should do a little return work. It would be good practice catching and holding on to the ball and we would finally get a chance to see this super speed we keep hearing about. Oh, i forgot he’s hurting too. So we go to S.D. this week? OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH , I feel my train a com’in. R.F.F.R.
When your top rusher of the day is Jacoby Ford
With his 1 carry for 13 yards … you are going to lose, every time.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 29, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Who the hell is coaching
our rookie corner?
Is it the same guy who is allowing them to hold down one side all by themselves while everyone blitzes?
One thing is for sure, W McFadden needs the same dietician and trainer as Jacoby Ford.
He needs to bulk up and pay attention.
We all wanted blitzes
Can somebody explain to the dc that you do not need to bring a full house blitz on EVERY SINGLE THIRD DOWN WHEN YOU HAVE A ROOKIE CORNER WHO CAN’T COVER ANYBODY!!!!!!
by lchristmas on Nov 29, 2010 11:50 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
That was obviously missed coverage on the TD.
Totally released him to help and they had blitzed both safeties…
A poor man's Jeff Garcia !!!
1st Mistake was made last year !!!! They cut the REAL JEFF GARCIA , for He who Shall’nt be Named !!!! 2nd mistake was made when they didn’t resign him this Year, especially after they corrected the latter half of the 1st mistake !!!! Come to think of it, we had Garcia in camp before he went to S.F. ?? Wow, talking about neglecting history !!! Gradz…luv your fire & intensity, but in the NFL, you have to have SOME talent, to go along with that !!! You know the ol saying: “Every Dawg has his day”, well that day was in Pittsburg last year !!! Skip the QB controversy !!! That’s a done deal. There is no more CONTROVERSY there, like there really was one in the first place!!! What was that Cable said, “was going on A feeling” !!! What he should’ve been having a feeling on, is how bad the O-Line is !!! After all, the O-Line was suppose to be his BABY !!! Grade….. D+, at best !!! And they get the + for playing good against poor D-lines, sometimes !!! Their best showing was in the First S.D. game, against the #1 rated defense !!!! Other than that, they play like SHIT !!!
5 games left………Praying for a .500 season !!! Damn, Ain’t that a Bytch !!! Even with the current bunch of SO CALLED COACHES, a winning season was possible !!! Chuckie anyone ??? All they(THEY BEING AL D.) have to do, is ask !!!
Much as I hate to agree
Letting Jeff Garcia go was excruciatingly retarded.
Jon Gruden and Bill Cowher
If anybody has noticed, both of these coaches has been turning down coaching jobs because they are waiting for the one they really want. Jon would come back to Oakland if Al asked him and Bill wants the Carolina job when it comes open which will more than likely be at the end of this season. Al need to go ahead and fire Tom Cable and his coaches and get Jon in there. He knows he made a mistake just like when he fired Art Shell the first time.
As far as Gruden coming back goes:
Yes he’ll come back, but not under Al"s usual agreement. He’s gonna want more money than Al likes to pay. He’s gonna want control over the coaching staff and players, again not something Al normally gives his coaches. By the way those coaches we have now other than Cable are not Cables coaches, they are Al’s coaches. Cable has little or no say in the hiring of the coaching staff. That’s all on Al
If, in fact, Al has seen the error of his ways in getting rid of Gruden, then he is going to have to pony up to get him back.
Al doesn’t value coaches, he thinks (rightly so) that the players play the game, but putting your players in positions to actually win games and keeping them motivated to do so is the coaches job and you see that the successful coaches continue to win no matter which players are on the field. Gruden is one of those guys.
I for one hope we get him back!
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Any relevant head coaching candidate is going to want this.
Yes he’ll come back, but not under Al"s usual agreement. He’s gonna want more money than Al likes to pay. He’s gonna want control over the coaching staff and players, again not something Al normally gives his coaches.
The main question is what is it going to take for Al to finally concede control to someone else? Dwindling poor health to the point he is incoherent, death, or bankruptcy? What is it going to take because consistent failure has obviously taught him nothing?
Trust No One
HA HA HA
Have you heard the one about not peeing on a raider fan even if he was on fire? Well BURN BITCHES!!!!
See ya next year. At Arrowhead no less. Heh Heh Heh
Dude yeah we have lost to two quality defenses but
its better than playing sorry as teams and having a full soft schedule making the playoffs and then getting embarrased rememeber your 14-2 season same shit. If we make the playoffs would be because we deserved it by beating quality teams. Remember we beat u with a better defense than urs and a pathetic QB play.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
by 818Raiderguy on Nov 29, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Don't feed "big" reese
Just say a silent prayer that he gets distracted by his sister’s blow job just enough to drive their house off a cliff
Chief fan that posts here is a classic case study in insecurity, inferiority complex, and barely repressed homosexuality, not to mention mongoloidism, obesity and nearly unfathomable stupidity.
Just enjoy his gifts.
by lchristmas on Nov 29, 2010 12:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
"Dammit"
Juniors got the dictionary again. Put that down before you hurt yourself little fella. Stupidity Ha!! At of all those big words you strung together a raider fan calling me stupid has to hurt the worse. But I guess since you can no longer hide behind the facade of a winning season you have to resort to calling names. As I said before see you in January. I hope you bring a better team than what you’re putting on the field now.
Ichristmas
funniest thing I have read all day. after another beatdown I am thankfu justl to laugh once again.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Nov 29, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Mark my words ...
You are gonna lose to SD, and in the last game of the season you’re gonna need to beat the Raiders in order to make the playoffs.
And like the Raiders so often do at the end of the season, playing for nothing but pride, we will rise up from the ashes and beat you in front of your home town fans and keep your punk asses out of the playoffs.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 29, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
It's funny
because it’s true…
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
Yes i beleive that Cambell should and will be the starter for the rest of the season.
Campbell is not the answer and he never will be even with a better OL. Bruce has a lot of fire in him but does have accucracy isues and not a strong enough arm to through the deep ball. I belive the difference in both of them is that Bruce doenst care about his play and why he forces a lot of throws and plays recklessly because what does he have to lose his starting role and go back to being a back-up. Bruce makes league minimum, and hes trying to make a name for himself to try to be a true number #1 QB but it the end it hurts this team, Bruce has the heart of being a number #1 Qb but not the talent of being number #1 QB. Campbell on the other hand has a lot going for him he was brought here to be the number #1 Qb and possibly the future of this team. Bad O-line and very inconisistant WR’s has ruined his confidence and and why he so hesitant on getting rid of the ball right away. Campbell has the talent of being a decent QB in this league, but he lacks passion, and confidence in himself to get the job done.
So Campbell is all we got theres no one else out there that can do better and if we do pick up a QB in the draft he cannot be thrown in the fire right away especially with this O Line and WR’ s.
It looks like Fitzgeral wants out of AZ, and someone like FITZ is what we need on this team and this willl also help out Campbell confidence but unless with address the O-line Fitz wil be another waisted pick and he wont want to come here either.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
We need to make a huge play for FITZ, i dont care if we make him the highest paid WR in the NFL, we need a #1 Receiver
by RyanTheRaider on Nov 29, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
That would be a priority over center or QB.
I would take my chances with Jason or Bruce throwing to Larry Fitzgerald. Tackle should be priority #1 in the draft.
Trust No One
It was Shit....thats for sure.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Nov 29, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Whats up with W Mcfadden did Cable not see that he was getting ........
buttfucked out there, that every pass was going his way and he couldnt cover ANYONE?
That was one fo the worst displays of coaching ever! Our qbs are going to get killed with that shotty pass-protection. I hope the whole o-line gets revamped next year , we have receivers that can do damage if we can get the ball to them !
Bongsmoke
I couldn't believe they continued to match him one on one
especially on 3rd downs when it was clear when the Dolphins needed a 3rd and long they were going Mcfaddens way. And it succeeded just about every time for a big play. This was some terrible coaching all the way around Sunday. We were a Jacoby Ford away from being probably shut out, and he was the only reason we had any hope going into the 4th quarter yesterday. I know we have injuries, but allowing a young guy to just get killed all game long did him nor this team any favors. Finding out they made Ware inactive for the game knowing Nnamdi was coming off an injury and not 100%, and with Cris Johnson out was another terrible mistake.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
Yes terrible coaching with all out blitzes Dolphins went max protect and Henne had just enough time to throw the ball to
whoever Mcfadden was covering. Henne didnt care who was the WR just as long it was Mcfadden who was covering them he was throwing it at him. Mcfadden will be benched for his bad performance just Ware was benched because of his bad performance against the steelers but both of these were a result of coaches putting these players to fail instead of succeeding.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
by 818Raiderguy on Nov 29, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Team was outcoached yesterday
Man for man, I didn’t see a talent discrepency out on the field against the dolphins, but the coaching and playcalling were major factors on both sides of the ball. Our guys were out of place much of the game and were taken out of their comfort zone early, our coaches failed to adjust and we were beaten.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
A little from colum A, a little from colum B.
The coaches weren’t running through tacklers at the end of the game for an extra six yards. Also the coaches didn’t whiff on a tackle attempt or pass break up and allow the WR to run 60 yards for a TD to start the 3rd. They have laid two huge dumps two weeks in a row. The 3 game winning streak looks like ages ago right now. The win against SD looks like a millineum ago as well. What sucks even more is the Pats are licking their chops watching to see how far we fall so they have an even better draft prospect. We all know if we finish any worse than 8-8 Dick Seymour wants no part of the rebuilding process at 32 years old.
Trust No One
One bourbon,one scotch one beer please.
Listen to us. You think this is bad wait till after the trip to San Dimas, ahhhhh Diego. Better load those bongs too Nation. Papabegood’s right though, I felt the real Garcia would have done a nice job here. And PAPA, I’ll take “Chuckie” in a heartbeat bro! When we play good teams it exposes our main weakness – Coaching. wins? Remember, even a blind rabbit finds a carrot once and a while.R.F.F.R.
You heard it here first
You guys think these last two games were bad??? We are headed to SD next and they are on fire! We had better learn to cover and rush the QB REALLY fast! We had also better remember how to run the ball and keep that cry baby Rivers off the field as much as the fins did to us yesterday, or this game will be REALLY ugly. My top 3 reasons why we suck the past two games:
1. Hue needs to own these last two weeks. BAD play calling! When are we going to open up the passing to DMC in the slot?!?!? NOT THE FB Reece!!!! I have watched SD all year throw 10-15 passes a game to the backs out of the backfield and pick up first downs. Why can we do that shit? When are we going to stop with trying to go deep, and to the FB of all people? Are we satisfied that 10 carries a game average is enough rushing attempts to stop running and put the ball in Grads or Campbell’s hands? If the answer is yes, we have no chance. Those two are second rate at best. There is a reason no one wanted Grads, and WASH was willing to give away a starting QB for a 4th rd pick = they suck.
2. Marshall needs to own up too. The “rush 4 and play man up” defense isn’t working. Hasn’t in 20 years. Here is a clue for him and Uncle Al: Look at what the successful teams are going, and copy them! Pitt, SD,Balt, Philly are always top D performers. Do they run our “man-up” vanilla D??? FUCK NO. So why do we continue with it year in and year out? GET OVER IT- IT DOESN"T WORK. As much as Al tries to prove that he knows more about football than everyone else, he succeeds is proving everyone else right! Marshall needs to go to a more zone/man mix and blitz nearly every down. Just like the top Ds in the league do. Overload the O line, and bring the pressure, have the corners watch the QB so they can get to the bad passes. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed we are not getting very many turnovers? Reason?? As for this week, the backs are going to get plenty of passes out of the backfield, that is SDs bread and butter. WRITE IT DOWN
3. What is with the coaches not preparing better? It seems as if EVERY week we play the same game plan, and if it works great, if not, we suck, don’t change it up, and suck the whole game until we lose by a large amount. WTF is that?
And for extra points
4. Jacoby Ford is a steal! All of you in here reading/posting had better go to nfl.com and vote that man in to the pro bowl! go now. Seriously, I am not joking, go do it now!
Did you not tune in for the game??
How’d the blitzes work out for ya on 3rd downs?
by the red guy on Nov 30, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Ill tell you what
the ONLY time we stopped them on 3rd downs was when we blitzed. So to answer your question: Much better than when we didn’t. The main problem was that McFadden is not a good corner by any means, and was on the “island” by himself in the man-to-man coverage. This is where the problem exists, and you’ll note I did say we need to zone up more, and quit being so predictable. Mix it up a little.
I don't know about that
We blitzed constantly and he beat it time and time again. The blitz wasnt getting there but we never mixed up the coverages. No adjustments at all. Blitzing up the middle with every body every time is just as predictable as sitting back in a zone. Three step drop and find lil walter. we seriously made chad henne look like joe montana.
by lchristmas on Nov 30, 2010 6:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
We have been bitching about this since the off-season.
It doesn’t matter who we play at cornerback. If we play the same tired schemes and refuse to adjust to a team’s tendencies and also refuse to mix up coverages we are not going to stop anybody consistently. We will continue to give up about 23 ppg if not more every season, we will continue to allow 130+ yards rushing pg and about 325 ypg overall because teams will want to play conservative because our run defense and our passing offense suck so bad. Against teams with upper echelon QBs who will be aggressive against us are no match at all because they will kill us all game long. We have talent on D but the coaches and particularly the old fart refusing to get with the times are holding us back and we will be having this same argument in 2011 unless he gives it up finally.
Trust No One
by TAW on Dec 1, 2010 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
bruce is probably out for the rest of the season, so atleast the team will know who the starter will be
Poor QB play cost the Raiders that game truly...
Not being able to put drives together and hanging the Defense out to dry on almost every possession was unfair to ask those guys to keep holding it up for 45 well 41:38 minutes are you fucking kidding seriously!
Neither of these guys is an answer both are glorified BU’s.
Inconsistent QB play has led to defenses not even worrying about the pass.
Payton Manning was only successful last night when getting the ball out in 2 seconds or less. When was the last time a Raider QB got a ball out in less than 2 seconds. Uh fumbles do not count!!
Not getting the WR’s and TE involved early is the death of the passing game.
Louis Murphy is so over rated! By the way nice Tim Brown Impersonation! Short arming balls on 3rd down.
The fact that JLH is still on this team boggles my mind.
You can’t keep throwing it to Ford unless Walter is covering him oh wait he was on our defense.
My original thought was 8-8 and I’d be happy I lied!!! I wanted more they teased us then reverted back!!!
PS- All you guys screaming for the blitz how did that work out?
ok seriously..
You did a recap and not once was The Gradster name mentioned!!
I mean..huh?…a whole recap and he was never mentioned. Do i need to copy and paste the recap from the steelers game. Has it gotten so bad, and has the Grad love gotten so deep that now its a team loss in a game we could have clearly/should’ve won Grad totally escapes any fault what so ever in a whole 19 paragraph recap??? The team sucked no doubt about it, but come on Noon…
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 29, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions
I don’t think Noon ever really chose sides. He speaks the truth, and it may have just been a blunder…? Not sure.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
And just to make myself clear, I don’t even think should be sides. A lot of people probably think I’m a huge Jason Campbell supporter, but really I’m a Raiders supporter. I root for who’s winning.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
I was gonna comment on whether he was a undercover cult member !!!
Like Jake, I’m a RAIDER4LYFE !!! I follow the Raiders & all that put on the Silver & Black !!! But you got to admit Jake, Gradz named was not mentioned once, in terms of how poorly he performed, and YES, That was Gradz underthrowing pass’s, all day long yesterday !!! There is no more debate !!! I hope the cult can get over it !! We fix the O-LINE, and JC will do until we have someone better to throw in the frey !!!
Oh, Kobe Won, are you not getting enough QB chat?
Grad was mentioned in my stat line. I am not worked up about the QB, because I know our QBs aren’t very good. I don’t really care who starts. This team does not win because of the QB.
Here let me paste something from the Pitt recap for you:
I am not going to blame the QBs’ play. They gave up 35 points against Pittsburgh
What was concerning about this game was the entire team’s reversion to previous versions of itself, the quotes afterward and the fact that the QB switch was not handled with any tact and may be splitting the team.
So take your panties out of your crack and go talk QBs someplace else. I am over that. Hit me up in the offseason for QB talk.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Nov 29, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone. anywhere think Noontide is funny?
more like a dope, hard to believe any so called “wife” would not get sick of the lame jokes. Though I’ll give you credit for making it through high school or at least using a spell checker.
I think he's the wittiest, most wonderful person I've ever known, actually. Thanks anyway for your concern, though.
by noontide's wife on Nov 30, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Damn this was classic.
"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"
by Raider Zealot on Dec 1, 2010 5:42 AM PST up reply actions
Aye aye Cap'n!!!
Thanks Noon for putting me in my place.
I now realize that this particular post game thread isnt about that, (though that last 4 has been either through intro or member posts), but this one here isnt about that.
Panties are officially extracted!!
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 30, 2010 3:28 AM PST reply actions
Kobe Won Kenobi, you're my only hope.
Well, you and a win against the Dolts.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Nov 30, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
its all good bro, your a Laker fan so i give you alil slack
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 1, 2010 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
A lot of the calls for the OC play-calling are not recognizing the true reason teams are figuring out how to shut down the run.
It’s the QB’s job to read their progressions, eye the safety off and if nothing is there then check down. On the drive following the missed Miami FG, I was screaming at Bruce to not throw downfield. Don’t throw it there! The play-action was good enough to view the entire field and throw underneath. He never looked anywhere before he threw to Ford. That has been a consistent pattern of all the QBs we have. They cannot make the tight throws so they’re forced to try the easier throws or go for the home run ball. Campbell can’t figure out how to read defenses so he keeps throwing down the side line to Reece against an LB because he has one on one coverage. The QB has been the cause for all our recent struggles, no matter who is under center. They both manage to F’ it up in their own frustrating ways. Just wait until Sunday. They will find some new ones.
Trust No One
The chargers are going to bring serious heat
You need a qb who can stand in, make a correct decision, and deliver the ball. Unfortunately, we have jason, who is more likely to just go turtle or throw it into the ground. The only way to protect him and move it in the pass game is to go max protect and throw deep on a one or two man route. ideally, you’d like to be able to hit 15 20 yard routes but our wrs.by and large can’t get open and jc does not have the stomach to stand in and make the throw.
The bottom line? I will not be betting my welfare check on the raiders. That is mostly due to my belief that rivers will pick us apart horribly but that’s another post.
by lchristmas on Nov 30, 2010 6:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just BEAT THE CHARGERS!!!
I dont care if you looked like crapcake against Miami just go out and kick the Chargers ass in typical Raider fashion. Beat them down, punch them in the face and break their legs. Go Raiders!! No i mean go Raiders fans. go to san diego and make this a home game for your team. Then you will only have to come to Arrowhead to decide who wins our division. We are pulling for you here in KC.
STFU KC hick!
I’m going to MHR to root for them to kill you all this weekend as well. FYI it’s already a home game as it’s been confirmed a sell-out. Get out of here and take your overweight inbred sister/ baby’s momma with you.
Trust No One
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