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Chiefs-Raiders: The Unrivaled Rivalry

Ben Davidson
Those were my favorite games...I always likened them to a heavyweight fight. You knew you were going to get beat up, but it was fun. We needed the Chiefs. We wouldn't have been as good without them.

It's something special. It's not just media hype...You can sense it with coaches and players. Then you get out into the community, and you realize what a huge game this is for both cities.

Kirk Morrison

In Oakland...the games you always really wanted to come see were the Niners and the Chiefs. You grew up hating red...It goes deep. It's not just the teams. It's the organizations, you know, which organization is better? These are two teams that played in the old AFL against each other. Most of the history goes back to it. They've been AFC West rivals for a very, very long time. It's always been the must-win game.

Gunther Cunnigham

"It's a dark game. I characterize it as a lot of darkness." When asked whether "dark" was meant as 'a good vs. evil dark'—"You can read between the lines."

Harvey Williams

Only one word: Blood.

Raiders-Chiefs, the rivalry so epically awesome it has its own Wikipedia page

Let's get one thing straight: I hate the Chiefs. I am not a fan of any other AFC West team, but I really hate the Chiefs. And this is for good reason. The Chiefs made the majority of my football '90s a trip down the douche water river. Many of these games were close, but name a way to blow a game late and I can show you an example of it in a Raiders loss to the Chiefs.

In the 90's the Raiders were 3-18 against the Chiefs. For those of you keeping score at home, this is not good. The Raiders won exactly once in Arrowehead in the decade of Grunge and that was in the Raiders last game of the decade. 

It was a thrilling 41-38 victory in overtime and it knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs. Not only did it rip the Chiefs hearts out, but it was a close game in KC that the Raiders finally did not blow.

It was the springboard for Gruden's Raiders early 00's domination as it shook the last monkey off of their back. There were signs leading up to that game that the Raiders had in fact turned the corner. Just like this year, two weeks prior to the Chief game the Raiders won by 45 when they trounced Tampa Bay.

While those Raiders went onto to dominate early in the just concluded decade, the rivalry ended up in the Chiefs favor 12-8. Gone are the woes of Arrowhead failure, however, as the Raiders look to shake the monkey off of their back in their own stadium. In an odd twist the Raiders have not beaten the Chiefs in Oakland since 2002, when they shut out the Chiefs 24-0. Since that game there have only been two contests that have been decided by more than 7 points. 

While the games have been close, they haven't meant that much to the rest of the division. In fact, that 1999 OT victory may be the last real meaningful game the two have played. This game puts to an end that trend.

Let's take a look at the matchups to watch:

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Chiefs Rushing Attack vs Raiders Rushing Defense

The Raiders are coming off of back-to-back blowout victories. The Raiders are also coming off of back-to-back games against teams that really, really, really suck at running the football. The Chiefs running game resembles the last two Raiders opponents in that opposite kind of way.

The Chiefs are first in rushing YPG per game and second in YPC at 5.2. Their offensive line is 3rd in run blocking DVOA and they are right behind the Texans--we all know what the Texans ground game did.

The Chiefs are having success running to all spots on the field, but they find their most room on the perimeters. 18 of their 38 carries of 10+ yards have come rushing on the outside left. This is actually the area where the Raiders are ranked the highest stopping the run.

Overall the run woes, they are 28th at 4.7 YPC, have not been the fault of the defensive line. In fact, the Raiders are 9th in runs stopped at or behind the line of scrimmage. It is when backs get past that point where the damage is being done. 

This will set up for an interesting confrontation as the Chiefs offensive line is paving the way for the Chiefs to be the best in the league in lack of run stuffage.

Tamba Hali vs Raiders Pass Protection

Hali is the Chiefs pass rush. The Chiefs are 20th in the league in sack percentage and 19th in sacks with 14, but Hali is 4th in the NFL with 7. Hali will line up on either side of the line and I am sure he is licking his chops while thinking of attacking the Raiders Tackles. 

The Raiders are currently 27th with a 8.7 percent sacks allowed percentage. Look for the Raiders to continue to utilize Khalif "hands" Barnes as an extra Tackle on Hali's side.

Gifted Blankets From The Pirate Ship

Raiders Rushing Attack vs Chiefs Rush Defense

The Raiders are now 2nd in Rushing YPG and 4th in yards per carry and with improving health and play calling they seem to be getting better with every carry.

KC is 7th in Rush Defense DVOA and 8th in YPC at 3.8. They are, however, almost completely opposite of the Raiders in that the Chiefs are 31st in runs stuffed. They are 4th in stopping runs on the 2nd level and 7th in stopping runs beyond that. 

I don't think too many teams want to base their run defense off of tackling McFadden beyond the line of scrimmage. The Texans who also utilize a Zone Blocking scheme and a speedy back averaged 6 yards per carry on the Chiefs.

Leaning even more in favor of the Raiders is the fact that the Chiefs struggle the most with runs up the middle where Football Outsiders has them ranked 20th in adjusted line yards with runs up the middle. The Raiders are tied for the league lead with 12 carries going for 10+ yards up the middle.

Raiders RBs vs Chiefs Pass Defense

To great success, the Raiders revealed their super secret double tipped Immaculate Bush play last week. They need to run this at least four times against the Chiefs...it's unstoppable.

Seriously though, I don't think it is absurd to say the McFadden and Reece may be the most dynamic and versatile receiving backfield duo in the history of football. It is fun to watch and McFadden hasn't even really gotten out in routes yet--he has just been utilized in screens and dump offs.

On the season, the Raiders backs are averaging 9.9 yards per catch and 7.4 catches per game. While the Chiefs are ranked 21st in pass defense DVOA against backs. They are allowing 7.8 yards per catch and 6.9 catches per game to backs.

The Staredown Over The Shoreline

Chiefs Pass Protection vs Raiders Pass Rush

The Raiders are now 2nd in sack percentage at 9.3. The Chiefs are 8th in sacks allowed percentage at 4.28. This number would appear to not tell the whole story of QB pressure allowed though as the Chiefs may have only given up 8 sacks this season, they have allowed 29 QB hits. 

Turnovers

The Chiefs have only lost one fumble all year. The Raiders defense has recovered 8 fumbles--this is 7th most in the league. Matt Cassel has also only been intercepted three time. While the Chiefs don't turn the ball over much (they are 1st in the league with 4), they don't force many either. They are ranked 26th in turnovers forced with 9.

How The Raiders Go Home Happy

See Sons Gameplan below and...

Just like any Raiders game, they need to prevent giving up any easy touchdowns and make the other team work to score. They cannot let the Chiefs break off big run after big run. 

As long as they can do that, I have a feeling this game is coming down to whoever wins the battle of the money situations. That'd be 3rd down conversions and redzone. The Raiders look to have an edge in these areas.

The Chiefs redzone defense has been bad. Teams are scoring touchdowns 68.75 percent of the time when they enter the redzone. This is good for 29th in the league. The Raiders need to take advantage of this. They are currently 20th in redzone offense at a 45.2 percent touchdown conversion rate. 

Offensively, the Chiefs are slightly better than the Raiders at converting in the redzone at 50 percent, but the Raiders redzone defense is much better at 18th with a 54.17 redzone touchdown percentage.

For two teams that run the ball this well, neither is very good at converting on 3rd downs. The Chiefs are 24th at 35.9 percent and the Raiders are 28th at 34.75 percent. The Chiefs are 15th on defense with a 37.1 success rate on 3rd downs and the Raiders are 5th with a 33.64 success rate.

If the Raiders can somehow force the Chiefs into enough 3rd and longs and get their pass rushing line onto the field, it could be a long day for the Chiefs.

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Can't Wait!

I’m fn’ed hyped about this game! That’s all I have to say cuz I’m fucking sleepy! Lol! Good night!

by Tha E on Nov 3, 2010 3:36 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry guys

Sorry Faider fans but you have not played a team like the CHIEFS this year and won. Wow you beat the Donkeys and Seachickens…. Sorry but this is the game you step back down the AFC WEST ladder… Charles WILL have over 200 yards against your poor OVERrated defense. CHIEFS win 31-10

There Will Be A Rising Of The Stars In 2010. You don't have to prepare, you don't have to watch, but they will come for you, and they will come for what's rightfully theirs. Lamar Hunt Trophy Watch 2010 has started. Are you ready?

by WGBTHOY on Nov 3, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your ignorance shows

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. So much at stake in this game.

Aside from the record and divisional standing, this game can do so much towards the intangible side of this team. Their own self image and confidence.

by TexasRaider20 on Nov 3, 2010 6:42 AM PDT reply actions  

talk about must win...

every week is must win, here on out. the biggest issue is the injuries!!! chiefs are pretty damn healthy leading into week 9 with only 3 on the injury report last week… ill be at the game but hopefully we can pull this out.

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 7:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Word up!!!

Yeah we need all the healthy bodies we can get…. But overall I like our matchups, they cant pass very well, so that means we can concentrate on the run. Also their pass defense isnt great either, so I look to see us have another big game in the air.

So ur going to the game? Ya gonna be tailgating? If so, where abouts? I’m going to the game and coming from LA with my Uncs. Would be dope to hang before the game…. Let me know wussup. get at me!!!!

by RaiderDevastate1 on Nov 3, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Bro..

We CAN Pass we just don’t have to so we dont that much. Also our Pass D is good when it counts. Bend but don’t break but as your a Faider fan you really don’t know what that means. Chiefs 24- Faiders 17

by Kc-SwanginMo on Nov 4, 2010 3:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

What did he forget in the picture?

If memory serves me right he ran for a first down and got up doing the first down motion. That has nothing to do with the football. Notice the Raider behind him just standing there. If it were in a real snap he wouldn’t be standing there. Nice try though.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Consider this as a typical example of why we must crush kc. These troglodytes are barely human

and devoid of any culture or humor. They have nothing really but a football team, a 6-pack of coors and the ol’ lady who smells like a rotten fish.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Just pointing out the obvious

It usually takes a while for some people around here to get that.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah... but what the hell does that have to do with anything chiefsfan85?

Just a cool pic in where he looks like he is crying. lol. Plus.. where is the ball if he carried it? Gave it to the official? And that guy you see behind him isn’t with the Raiders anymore.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bitches and hoes.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jk. But not really, there are some fine Raider women, my man.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

damn man

i’m a chiefs fan, but we can agree on something if it’s for a good cause like that

by E.C. on Nov 5, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

just fat chola's.....

 You don’t wanna see really…….

by rdubz on Nov 3, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

idk about raider women...

but as much as i hate all things raiders, your cheerleaders have always been amazingly hot lol

by dt4ever on Nov 3, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

i don't care what anyone says...

Consider this as a typical example of why we must crush kc. These troglodytes are barely human and devoid of any culture or humor. They have nothing really but a football team, a 6-pack of coors and the ol’ lady who smells like a rotten fish.

…that shit is pretty funny…

Hey...How'd everyone get in my room?

by SFLChief on Nov 3, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis

by Ozraider on Nov 4, 2010 5:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

member of the Raider Nation since 1968......(Heidi Game!)

by TheAutumWind on Nov 4, 2010 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow! You really know Matt Cassel's show of jubilation well.

A sign of a hardcore Chief fan right there, “Dude, I watch Cassel’s positive plays as a Chief on a 25 second loop on my VCR over and over. The masturbation face first down after a weak scramble is my favorite!”

Also: Whaaaaaaaat? He wasn’t really trying to throw air there?

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Lol! That is weird he would remember something that specific.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 3, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Raiders are like the hispanic, estranged uncle of the AFC West

who has had 4 DUI’s, domestic abuse charges and megs of hidden child porn on his computer.

Pure filth in an otherwise beautiful state.

"the Chiefs and their fans, well, we're a family..."

by KCitian on Nov 3, 2010 8:20 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather live in San Diego...

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

its nice here

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I've heard.

My mom wants to retire there and live on the beach. Screw Kansas.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

wife wanted to live near the beach

So we live across the street from torrey pines

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha! High five.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 6:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fitting that you would invoke a deadbeat scumbag like derrick thomas

to indicate your approval of a despicable racist “joke”

Classiest fans in the nfl, I thought that was your story, no?

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 11:13 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

If it is any consolation

I don’t think any of these asshats are regulars over at Arrowhead Pride

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Every fanbase has its idiots and undesirables

Not every fanbase denies it and devotes entire threads to how classy and holier-than-thou they are

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 1:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

now that i look at it again its really more of a "lame raider/black hole jokes for dummies 101" type thread but you also get in the "we're so classy and superior" angle

btw, i don’t believe the “throwing batteries at the bus” story for a minute… maybe there’s one or two idiots throwing some batteries but some coordinated effort? give me a break. there are so many cops in the parking lot you can barely drop a beer can. plus batteries are expensive and i’m pretty sure all us raider fans are on welfare.

“Heres the deal and IMO.. Chiefs as we are have a lot more class as fans then the faiders.”

“We as CHIEFS fans have class.”

“I wish I lived in the area As almost all my experiences with Chiefs fans in my life have been amazing. And this is a damn respectable website from what I’ve noticed, and it’s easy to attract a lot of idiots on the net. And it doesn’t seem to be that way here. I think that says a lot about these fans.”

“pretty much a 3rd world country type experience just in california…when san diego starts to get dangerous(it has) you can only wonder how bad oakland is these days”

a couple points: do you guys really think “faiders” is funny? why?

i have been to many games in the last several years and the only time i have ever seen any violence against an opposing “fan” in the game or the parking lot was one drunken jackass charger fan at last year’s opener who was hammered off his ass and richly deserved it….

you chief fans should probably stay away though – judging from some of the remarks i’ve read, a lot of you might not care for the amount of yucky mexican and black fans we’ve got

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

tried to post as a link but i'm a dumb raider fan who can barely use the internet

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/11/3/1792502/chiefs-g-brian-waters-remembers-entering-oakland-the-first-time

I would also note that compared to the amount of chief fans (many of them seemingly barely literate) that are invading this blog, there is a very minimal raider trolling element over there

I like this one from noted scholar “teabaggingexper”

“Forget about going to game in Oakland I feel like i need a shot of penicillin just from visiting their blog.”

The feeling’s mutual. Go away.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well your just high and might huh

On Sunday you will shut that trap up but until then then feel free to try and degrade u. I am sure you just pissed that the mary jane law didn’t pass so feel free to ACT more educated!!

by Kc-SwanginMo on Nov 5, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Racist and barely literate

Don’t think that will change on monday no matter who wins

Good luck in life

by lchristmas on Nov 5, 2010 6:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You are the only Raider fan crying about it.

If you don’t like it don’t visit AP. It’s that simple. Also, maybe you should go into hibernation until Sunday…that way you can grow some thick skin.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not "crying" about anything

Unlike your moron attack squad of juvenile semi-literate racists, I don’t go trolling other teams’ sites

You can get the gist of a.p. In about 2 minutes, no need to bother further

1. We’re classy
2. “faiders” “no homo” hahaha hilarious
3. Why would anyone want to live in california Near the ocean and mountains with all those minorities and hippies and potheads and draft dodgers when you can sit on your fat ass in olathe kansas and eat cheese
4. “gayders” (even more hilarious than faiders because it sez theyre gay, get it?) Hahaha, no homo
5. Running game stats
6. Circle jerk to derick thomas photos (in a classy way)
7. Stadium sells out with classy fans only
8. Oakland haz crime
9. Eric berry=ronnie lott
10. Classy classy classy BRING ME MY CHEESE FRIES WOMAN

by lchristmas on Nov 5, 2010 6:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don't "troll." You just come here to whine about it.

Get your britches out of a wad. These threads are the epitome of what it is to be rivals.

And just stop acting like Raider fans haven’t been trashing KC fans, KC, and the Chiefs. You’re making yourself look like a major hypocrite.

Incidentally, you’re the only fan I’ve run into who can’t seem to withstand heated discussions or insults. Do you see me bitching about being called a ho and homeless? No. Why? This is a blog. Nothing should be taken personally over the internet. If someone over the net hurts your feelings, it’s time to back away from the computer.

Really, kid. Get a sense of humor, have fun with it. Stop being a debbie downer.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logic is still not your strong suit

Allow me to break it down in short, simple language:

Every team has idiots in its fanbase, its just that your team’s fans have cultivated this air of superiority that is both undeserved and exttremely annoying

by lchristmas on Nov 5, 2010 7:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hypocrisy is also an annoying trait.

“its just that your team’s fans have cultivated this air of superiority that is both undeserved and exttremely annoying”

Yet, the way you responded isn’t acting superior? Just stop before you make yourself look even more silly. Stop the complaining. Enjoy and embrace the rivalry. Who CARES what people say? Why do you think people are so bitter? It’s because people are too darn sensitive. You’re a prime example.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the only thing I have taken offense to

Is the numerous racist remarks by your fellow classy chief fans, the other pathetic insults I have responded to in kind, as much as I could given that there don’t seem to be any high school graduates coming over here with the exception of you and a FEW others

I hope you have a wonderful weekend with your loved ones and your team gets destroyed;) I am looking forward to my visit to the ghetto by the bart tracks

by lchristmas on Nov 5, 2010 7:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

doesn't;

just for those of us that didn’t graduate high school

by E.C. on Nov 5, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really EC?

Really?

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Several comments from assclowns does not a fanbase make

also, the battery story, while certainly not a coordinated effort, is true, and I think it happened more than once to teams other than the Chiefs. The incident to which Waters refers was reported in several papers at the time

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Raiders will crush the Chiefs

The Raiders confidence level right now is off the charts. Their performance the last two games is in part due to the caliber of team they were playing, but they didn’t just beat two mediocre teams, they completely dominated them. This domination is the result of a perfect combination of coaching and player attitude. On the other hand, you have KC who followed up a good performance against the Jaguars by exposing their own weaknesses and barely beating the Bills in OT. You know that this close victory against a pathetic team is in the back of KC’s mind. On the forefront is their knowledge that the Raiders will beat them into the ground if they don’t bring their A game. The Raiders will come out playing aggressive in your face football. KC on the other hand, like the 4-2 Seahawks did last week, will realize by the end of the 1st quarter that their opwn 4-2 record is a farse. This game will be decided in the first half. Raiders will win by at least 14 points.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Welcome to your living Hell KC

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matthew 10:28

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

What happens if you lose?

This is what will happen with me if the Chiefs lose: “Oh, well. I thought this game could go either way. We can split with them when they come to Arrowhead. Time to move onto the next game.”

I have a feeling this will be you: “OH MY GOD! MY TEAM SUCKS! I HATE THIS! THE WORLD IS ENDING!”

My point? You’re setting yourself up for a major letdown if you don’t get the results you seek.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

They might, but for the ones who forget, I will say that we are missing 4 important starters.

And the run stuffing backup John Henderson who splits snaps with opur starting DT. Thus it won’t hurt as bad, especially if you win by a TD or 2. But if you win by a blow out, yes, I will be mad and probably rage.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Asamoah did all right.

I saw one play where he pulled left and sealed the edge for a Charles 10+ yard gain. Pretty good blocking!

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right Guard

Waters is the LG

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that a break through moment for you?

Every victory is awesome, every loss sucks. I’ve been a Raider fan for 35 years and that’s not going to change based upon what happens Sunday. Being that you are a KC fan I fully expect you to walk down the middle of the road, not getting to excited, not laying to much on the line. Come Sunday you won’t be really excited if your team wins neither will you be really excited if they lose, because you aren’t emotionally invested in your team. In the meantime I’m going to jump into the fast lane and have some fun today going overboard making bold predictions, If I upset a few KC fans along the way even better

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I will disagree. I'm very much emotionally invested in my team.

I love the Chiefs with a passion and want them to embarrass the Raiders. But I’m also logical and fairly level-headed. History shows these games are always close.

Also, we are in pretty good standing having a full game lead and pretty nice schedule. The cards are aligned perfectly for the Chiefs.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Odd

our team has had one blackout in 20 years, meanwhile the Raiders have had 4 this year alone.

Who’s emotionally invested in their team?

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well tell me what else is there to do in an arm pit like Kansas Shitty?

The Raider Fans have not had a team worthy or putting out their hard earned $$ for….that is not an indictment on them as fans…it is the RAIDER NATION sending Al and the rest of the raider front office a message…to stop putting an inferior product on the field (see JaSizzup), start making smart, well thought out, draft pics, start to develop smart play calling on both Defense and Offense. And you know what??? THEY FINALLY LISTENED TO US!!! And so as we continue to see success on the field, we will reward management with out attendance at the Coliseum. I have been a Raider Fan for a very very long time, Been to a lot of games, but sometimes you need to send the message…message sent and received…..

member of the Raider Nation since 1968......(Heidi Game!)

by TheAutumWind on Nov 4, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to shitty wok!

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 4, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a chance

WOW ! that’s all that can be said…. You guys beat two horrible teams and now you’re going to crush us? Who are you kidding? Charles and Jones are going to have a field day against your OVERRATED defense. CHIEFS 31 – Faiders 10

There Will Be A Rising Of The Stars In 2010. You don't have to prepare, you don't have to watch, but they will come for you, and they will come for what's rightfully theirs. Lamar Hunt Trophy Watch 2010 has started. Are you ready?

by WGBTHOY on Nov 3, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you say dumb shit like that, it automatically ruins your opinion here. So, you might as well leave now, and avoid further embarrasment.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

We can’t get cocky, but we need to stay confident. The D is on a roll, and Matt Cassell better learn how to throw from his back, ‘cause he’ll be on it all day long. Dike McBush is in full effect, JC is tearing shit up, and Darrius turned another corner Sunday and showed he can handle a full days work. Life is good in Raider Nation.

Oakland needs to stop the run enable to stop the Chiefs. If we let them feed off the success of successful runs, then that opens up the PA pass to Moeaki. Bad news. Stop the run, and sack the QB. Raider D, baby.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Sorry
Stop the run, and sack the QB.

Somehow I don’t think that will start with the Raiders. No other team has done it. We will rush for over 200 yards. Acceptance is the key.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you mean? Oakland is usually near the top of the league in QB sacks. But yeah, stopping the rush has been hard for us. But I believe we’ve turned a new leaf, and with execution from the O, our D will show up.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

and Chiefs

are one of the best in not getting sacked…Will there be a scratch out somehow?

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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71-46

by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

and you guys will always have at least one sack in a game

because you guys are too good…again on any given Sunday.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

Picks
71-46

by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

You played two of the worst rushing offenses in the NFL over the last 2 weeks...

What makes you think you’ve turned a leaf on rush D? The Broncos (a horrible, horrible running offense) ran for more against OAK than their per game average is… and they were losing in a blowout. They shouldn’t have been running the ball that much. And the Seahawks aren’t a good run team either.

Frank Gore and Arian Foster completely gashed the Raiders D… and now you have the best run offense in the NFL (and possibly in the last decade) coming to play. Jamaal Charles is the 8th ranked running back in the NFL… and he’s doing it on almost half as many carries as all the other top 10 RBs… and Thomas Jones is the 14th ranked RB. No one has come close to really slowing the Chiefs run game down… and all but 2 of them have a higher ranked run D than OAK… The Chiefs rush O is so unbelievable that their worst game this year was still higher than 19 NFL teams’ rushing yard per game averages…

I’m not saying the Chiefs will or won’t win… I’m not sure… it should be a good game. But there are 2 things the Chiefs undoubtedly do extremely well… they run the ball and stop the run. If you can either run on us or stop our run you’ll be the first. IMO, if the Raiders want to win, they have to pass the ball and score quick… because the Chiefs are going to chew up a lot of time and grind this game out. Build up a lead… because OAK will need it in the 4th when 2 fresh RBs are wearing away at you.

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raiders Run O is just as good as the Chiefs' run O

Run D is a different story…I can say that our run D has improve in a couple of games. Just like our passing game has improved.

by Ctb3 on Nov 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your run O is good... I'll give you that...

But it doesn’t compare to KC’s… this is the one thing we really have to brag about. 2 top 15 RBs. I haven’t seen a running game like this in over 10 years… the only thing that comes close to comparing was Vick with the Falcons… and even that wasn’t nearly as good.

You’ll see it first hand on Sunday… it’s impressive. The Chiefs constantly sub Jones and Charles in and out… they’re always fresh. They never look tired. And they just gash defenses. A lot of credit goes to the Chiefs OL though… their zone blocking scheme is working perfectly. But don’t take my word for it… just don’t feel too bad when KC runs for 200 yards on the Raiders on Sunday.

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 3, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They think they’re hot shit, huh? I can’t wait ’till Sunday.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bragging about a rush offense that scores how many points last week against the Bills. WOW.

by p.g on Nov 3, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And we've done it with one less game

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 7:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes 808NaNz808, but don't forget Dmac missed two games.

He’s better than Bush at racking up yards.
:P
grasping at straws huh, lol!

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 4, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey... if you think a 20 yard per game average difference isn't a lot...

Then look at it like this…
In 8 games OAK has 1348 yards.
In 7 games KC has 1330 yards.

OAK has gained 18 more yards rushing in 8 games than KC has in 7. Yeah… 20 yards on a per game average is a lot.

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 3, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver and Seattle's rush defense isn't exactly solid either

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

especially Denver

their entire front 7 has no business starting in the NFL.. Oaklands rushing stats were kind of inflated there

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle's run D is excellent

They were top 2 in almost every conceivable stat heading into the game. They gear their entire defense towards stopping the run. They have DT playing end to stop the run. This is the most incorrect statement I have seen on this thread.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their Run D ranking fell 24 spots....

There’s no way they were the 2nd ranked run D before you played them.

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 4, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

What stats are you using?

I think you may be reading wrong. They are 10th in YPG 12 YPA and 10th in DVOA…just to name a few that people actually use.

And yes they did fall that far, because we kicked that much ass.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops... My bad. I was looking at OAK run D rank... haha.

DVOA is cool if you want to go that route though…

SEA’s team efficiency DVOA was #16 before OAK, they dropped to #24.

Let’s look at OAK and KC DVOA…

Team efficiency: KC #1, OAK #22
Team offense: KC #6, OAK #25
Team defense: KC: #5, OAK #16
RBs: Charles: #1, Jones: # 20. McFadden # 10, Bush: #13

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 4, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, congrats! You get most improved reader award!

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hahahaha!

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 4, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red N Gold... Dmac missed two games!

 Add 280 yards. We should be first place rushing. We are the top rushing attack imo.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 4, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dmac has about 20 more carries... and only 2 more yards than Charles.

Dmac doesn’t compare to Charles. No way you have the top run game. You’ll see after Sunday though…

Matt Cassel drives a bulldozer.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 4, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have 20 more yds

and you have played one more game. I wouldn’t brag to hard on that.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Nov 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

^^^ This

Dexter McCluster for Rookie of the Year
2011 Chiefs Record Prediction: 8-8
Week 7 Adjusted Record Prediction: 11-5
____________________________

CHIEFS WILL
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE!

by KC Nate on Nov 3, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The football gods.........

Say the Raiders will beat the Cheifs by 9 pts in tightly contested match . Raiders Nation will show up for the big game and watch our team climb closer to first ! All you smack talking Queef fans can go behind the barn and have sex with your fat stanky bbq eatin inbred sisters!
Missouri sux and so does the queefs!
GO RAIDERS!!!

Bongsmoke

by BonGSmoKe on Nov 3, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Raider nation will show up?

all 33,000 of you? I hope everybody fits into that one pickup truck

BOOM. ROASTED.

"CHIEFS WILL"

by KCitian on Nov 3, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice Try.

Got to call you out on your pathetic attempt at ROASTING the Raider Nation. Over the past 20 years, I’ve lived in 10 different states and 5 different countries. Everywhere I’ve been the Raider Nation has been thriving. As for KC fans, they’ve been nonexistant. So be proud of the 50,000 fans that fill your stadium each week because apparantly they don’t exist anywhere else.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny...there are more than ten states in the US.

And many AP bloggers are from different areas of the country.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

My apologies

I just did a search, apparantly there have been recent sightings of KC jerseys in Somalia as well as Central Africa. Don’t get too excited apparantly a KC Walmart donated the jerseys to a relief program after their buy 1 get 10 free promtion didn’t work.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea, it was with the same shipment that had the Oakland jerseys, but they didn't want the Oakland ones so they burned them.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
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by oldchiefsfan on Nov 3, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be stupid and false because the colors are great for night hunting.

The bright red will get them killed in the wild. I guess they just had no choice because there was only a KC jersey shipment.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, put that bright KC red in front of a bull next time you have a chance in your farm area.

It’ll be fun, and you can dream you are running as fast as lil Jamall.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

U.S. Marshal hasn't caught up to you yet?

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
You can buy Arrowhead Pride and our favorite teams related items here
Arrowhead Pride Shirts and Blind Mule Designs

by oldchiefsfan on Nov 3, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't Exist?

Well, I’m down here in SoCal and I represent. Nor am I alone by any stretch of the imagination. I have ran into a fairly significant nmumber of Chiefs fans in the L.A. metro area in spite of our relative lack of success over the past few years (and as I’m sure Raiders fans will agree, I most appreciate those that continue to support through the tough years).

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

there are season ticket holders in like 48 states I think?

by kansas city on Nov 3, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't lie...

You guys drive a first generation Toyota Prius.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s one of my rides. But you can be my other(;

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Haha! Kidding, of course.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's see him try that on big #90

hahaha

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one dare face....THE Nutcracker.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

i drive a an 04 prius but have an 03 hummer...

depending on tailgate i will take the prius since i live about an hour away.

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh wait..

didnt know you guys were bein sarcastic… lol…

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL! That was epic.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not only that, but you want to enforce your driving preferences on others too

ugh, my hatred for oakland will only grow as your mayor ascends to the governorship of my once powerful state. Uber Alles right?

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

false

you drive smart cars because you guys are too retarded to drive without some sort of assistance, technological or otherwise

by dt4ever on Nov 3, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

ewwww, and some of them might be "hispanic"

fuck off, you racist, unfunny piece of worthless fratboy shite

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

boom. roasted. WHAT A DORK!

by p.g on Nov 3, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should know,

Its your truck and we stole it after bangin yer ole lady, she paid us too.

by MacRaider on Nov 5, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a prediction thread?

Chiefs feed the Raiders a dose of reality. Two good games in a row does not mean soundly defeating the Chiefs. The game is close, and the Chiefs will successfully run the ball (no shocker there).

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 9:17 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

KC 13 Buffalo 10 in OT

The last two games played by the Raiders show a team improving and reaching their full potential. On the other hand the reality check given to the Chiefs at home by the worst team in football would suggest that they should be very concerned about this weeks game. If Buffalo can play KC to a tie for 4 Q’s and all but 1 second of OT, I wonder what’s going to happen in Oakland?

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point. If they want to talk about the present and now, it doesn’t get much better than the previous week.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Playing devil's advocate.

I don’t believe Buffalo is the worst team in the league.

Raiders win by 3 or 4 points

by TexasRaider20 on Nov 3, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

And you conveniently forget the Bills took the Ravens to OT the week before playing us.

I wonder why? Maybe because the Bills are a bit more competitive than their record indicates. Come on…THE Ravens, one of the better defenses in the NFL. Not to mention they have a decent offense as well. They gave up 30+ points to the Bills and over 500 yards of offense.

This argument/theory does not work. The Chiefs have shown up to every game. They have yet to be blown out. If one side struggles, the other half of the team carries the burden. We don’t make mistakes. We have the best rushing offense in the NFL hands down. Our o-line is pretty darn terrific in run blocking. Matt Cassel CAN play good football. The question is if he can be consistent. Over the last few games, he has posted the highest QB rating in the NFL. Why? We don’t have to throw as much which equals less passing attempts. He doesn’t turn the ball over. He’s the epitome of a game manager.

I think it is you who is overlooking us because I have said this game can go either way.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 3, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look at the past 7 years in Oakland for the Chiefs

What happened?

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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71-46

by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

the same thing with the chargers the past 7 years

and we all know how that turned out dont we?

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dumb arguement.

The last 7 years means nothing.

by TexasRaider20 on Nov 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

and niether does last week

against a “bills” team.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

What you smoking?

Your team barely beat a winless team. Of course it matters.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't put much stock into last week.

The same can be said about us the week following the SF debacle. This is RAIDER WEEK for them. I assume they were chalking that game up as a win with the primary focus being Oakland.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 3, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

by that arguement

you should be able to beat the ravens too right?

by dt4ever on Nov 3, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any given Sunday

I’ll say 50-50 but I would give 50-50 against the Patriots to the Bengals

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know Matt Cassell knew how to spell this well.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ill take that bet

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

and Cassel only has one "L"

I shouldn’t judge you on that though, your name has 2 capitalized letters in it.

by chiefsfan83 on Nov 3, 2010 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

No biggie. He’ll be some gas station attendant in 5 years anyhow, so it’s not that big of a deal.

And I know! Isn’t

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Premature post. LAME.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

But yeah, I like my name. :)

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he has to resort being a gas station attendant in 5 years

he was really bad in managing his money. lol

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ll be suprised on how easily these guys spend money. e.g. JaMarcus Russell.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

jamarcus was a once in a lifetime moron….need i remind you what cassel did to you guys in oakland during 08?

by dt4ever on Nov 3, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the Pats? Need I remind you that you guys are the Chiefs... not the Pats...

Need I remind you Bowe is not Moss, Casell is not Brady, Haley is not even a great caliber coach as Belichic. The whole staff and defense was great; Yours?… not even close.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 4, 2010 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um. We're a pretty good team. That's for sure.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you guys way overpaid him

he should be fine financially, he be pumping gas for the fun of it.

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 3, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

he'll

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 3, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You'll notice he's not on the team anymore

JaFatass was paid the going rate for a 1st pick. It’s ridiculous but it is what it is.
I’m all for a rookie salary cap

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Nov 3, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right Cassel only has one L

He likes to save the majority of them for the field.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

what?

first off, thanks captain obvious, n second i think its 2 L’s

but i digress, i love reading noontides breakdowns theyre deep and factual and not boring as hell to read.

i think its gonna be the game of the week and im excited as fucknuggets, the only thing that could make me more excited is if it shows down here CMON GUYS WE NEED TO SELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!

by S.D. Raider on Nov 3, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Where do you find this pics from?

by rightnasty on Nov 3, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw it a while ago and I had to save it.

It only gets brought out for special occasions.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK that was funny.

Apparantly there is at least one Chiefs fan that can talk smack.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I sorta loled

Except were 4-4…

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someday coming this Sunday!!

cara mia…..lol

member of the Raider Nation since 1968......(Heidi Game!)

by TheAutumWind on Nov 4, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Though

It’s odd from the spelling that it’s pronounced more like “castle” than “ca-sell”.

by rightnasty on Nov 3, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

your mature...................................

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulation!!!

All I see on my screen is an X. Are you pregnant?

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even get an X

just the subject line. I am intrigued and I must know what it was. Or was this just meant to be another evil Chief fan trick on the Raiders?

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never mind I figured it out.

Just looked it up online. Apparantly a little red x appears when the person posting a picture has an extension that doesn’t work. I suggest you try Viagra.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GOT EEM

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh!!

I’m using the internet. As soon as the internetz comes to my area I’ll be sure to get it.

by Bedlam on Nov 3, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Return to prominence game

If the Raiders are to make a statement, this is the game to do it. They can finally get a win over the Chiefs at home and have a winning record this late in the season.

MORaidersfan www.oaktown-commitment.blogspot.com

by MORaidersfan on Nov 3, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

prominence?

return to prominence? please. you will have zero success at containing the run game which will only open up the passing game. plus the 12 fans in the stadium will completely take away this foreign idea of “homefield” advantage.

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

plenty of witnesses

that’s good then. plenty of witnesses so the chiefs wont get arrested for murder after the beat-down thats gonna happen.

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you have to take off your shoes to come up with that wicked number?

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your glibness does you no credit, sir. Make fun of his phrasing all you want – the truth is that both your head coach and latest future-first-round-bust just called your fan base out publicly for your humiliating black-out streak..

by Chief Balls on Nov 3, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Future-first-round-bust? Please explain.

Yeah, our attendence is dismal. What do you expect after 8 losing years?

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

KC fans will never understand a blackout

because what the hell else are you going to do in KC

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They could try brushing their tooth once in a while

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Nov 3, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

quality stuff.

1. we’ve been losing for many years but our pride for our team has never stooped to that embarrassing blackout streak
2. yes, there is nothing to do in kc except watch football and ride our horses.
3. we also don’t brush our teeth. we’re too busy riding our horses.

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Truly first-rate.

I’m enjoying the hell out of my recently-installed flushing toilets, as well.

by Chief Balls on Nov 3, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT?!?

Man, where the crap did you manage to get a flush toilet? Now i guess ill have to stop crapping in that thing they call the “Black Hole”

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow! Your partner is into Hot Carls?

That is especially impressive in the land of BBQ

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Remind me of the other NFL team ...

Whose stadium is 25 miles away from your teams stadium, a team that has won four Super Bowls …

Oh, yeah. There aren’t any. Not to mention there’s jack shit to do in Kansas City other than go to football games … Unlike in the SF Bay Area …

It’s called a lack of competition buddy. And the fact that your city SUCKS.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 3, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are talking about the 49ers.....

They have won 5.

And are you really linking your team to the success of the 49ers?

KC Chiefs; 10 Wins in 2010!

Win #1: Week One (Home); KC 21 - SD 14 (Monday Night Football)
Win #2: Week Two (Away); KC 16 - CLE 14
Win #3: Week Three (Home); KC 31 - SF 10
Win #4: Week Seven (Home); KC 42 - JAC 20
Win #5: Week Eight (Home); KC 13 - BUF 10 (OT)

by Moebuis_34 on Nov 3, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, dipstick ... try to follow along ...

I’m saying that it’d be a lot easier to sell out football games if there wasn’t another team with (sorry) 5 super-bowl rings … whose stadium is 25 miles away from ours. This type of competition for nfl fan $ is not something you guys have there.

BTW, when was the last time you guys were in the SB … I forget …

We’ve been to AFC Championship game 11 times in 40 years, 2nd only to the Steelers … you guys? Once … And you lost it. The absolute fewest shows of any team whose been around since it started forty years ago.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 4, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of the dimmest bulbz in missouri

Are shining their light on this little web site

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 8:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOLLL

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The funny thing about Bay Area types

you’re always so quick to claim how open-minded and tolerant you are, how you don’t prejudge, and accept people from a wide range of diverse background as part of the beautiful human tapestry.

But when the shit hits the fan, you prove time and again that said tolerance is generally reserved only for the exotic and acceptable and continue to harness these fantastical stereotypes with no root in modern realities regarding anyone not located within 50 miles of a coast. Its humorous if nothing else.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are doing a wonderful job

Of providing an example of a stereotype, come on over to 66th and san leandro and make your racist jokes sunday morning, cumrag

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lay off the steroids please.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take your crew of classy racists back to the show me state

They are not welcome in california or on this website

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 11:16 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Hypersensitivity is why this world is full of bitter individuals.

You’re quick to make hasty generalizations and grouping us all together, like I have control over what is said. I think you need to address each situation individually instead of calling out a group of people. You’re asking to begin a shitstorm there.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rec

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes because Oakland is the happening place ain't it?

Seriously, when you wanna have a good time, we all know you guys head across the bay and hang out with your fellas in the Castro. At least, those of you that aren’t too busy dodging bullets in Richmond.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

other than the fact that Oakland is miles away from Richmond??

Fuck off, you don’t know the first thing about living here, all the diversity stuff? Comon’ everyone know that’s Berkely’s shit, Oakland is a hard city to live in, and we’ve been hit with the worst of the recession. So Fuck off, seriously.

I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
-Jack Tatum

by DarksideJU08 on Nov 3, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then maybe you should have elected new government officials?

Shit won’t get any better if you keep voting in the same dumba$$es who put California in that mess.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

boom sucka.

excellent point CB. hopefully you guys dont dissapoint your head coach or he might punch every single Raiders fan in the face. but what else can you do when your life sucks.

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve been happy to let the Raiders performance speak for itself this year.

www.oaktown-commitment.blogspot.com

by MORaidersfan on Nov 3, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, come on. It’s football. Put down your purse, Nancy.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chill.

I said it’s pure win because it cracks me up. I love it. Was complementing you :)

by twincitiesknick on Nov 3, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see. Well, thank you. It’s hard to be a hippy/Raider fanatic. Gotta cross some borders.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a teacher in elementary school

like that. He was the first Raiders fan I ever met (grew up in NY), and he was fucking insane. His name was Mr. Smith or something like that, but he asked that everyone call him “The Woodchuck.” He constantly dressed like a silver-and-black clad Indian/Native American, with silver and black tribal feathers, beads, tattoos, and carried around a massive cane (around 6+ feet) with weird skulls and spikes and shit hanging off it. He was a middle-aged fat white dude, and an aging hippie to boot. Half of his stuff was silver and black peace signs in addition to the skulls and pirate regalia.

Bizarre fanbase. Seriously.

by twincitiesknick on Nov 3, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure there is a dress code in schools... Did anybody tell him anything?

Hell, the female teachers might as well wear mini-skirts in that elementary school you went to. Weird.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

he'd been there for a billion years

so it might have been one of those things where the kids liked the whole style, he was a fine teacher, and they let it slide.

That’s my guess, anyway.

by twincitiesknick on Nov 3, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta cross some borders

A lot Raiders fans have.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ive got one for you

How many racist asshole chief fans are currently trolling this site?

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 7:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No shit. But that's a stereotype fullfilled, isn't it? But consider this

aren’t they showing a lot of insecurity today? As if these cumbellys can psych themselves up enough to deaden their fear. They can’t; it comes through clearly.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be a Chiefs fan and this would be my first look into SABP

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

Just thought it was a place to talk football. Looks a little different.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're entertaining

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds racist to me.

Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.

by paratrooper on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not limiting it to race

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Subrace actually

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sudden

that was inappropriate – knock it off

If you posted that crap on Arrowhead Pride you know it wouldn’t fly…

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are you the douche police?

I’ve seen you saying there not regulars and you know that wouldn’t fly on AP. It’s stuck up over there and reeks of bullshit. Your not really part of the click over there anyway.

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have been posting on AP since it was a tiny little baby blog in golden fleece diapers

and racist crap has never, and will never be acceptable there.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 5:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey-oh!

I don’t know what is funnier – your little jokes or your seemingly-blissful ignorance of the rest of the nation’s perception of Oakland (hint: it’s not positive).

by Chief Balls on Nov 3, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aw, I’m sorry. But unlike you, I’m not insecure and don’t give two shits about what other people think of me or where I live. (: Even though I’m not from Oakland, but would like to reside in the Bay. Nice place.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is in stark contrast to the perception of KC

oh wait…no one cares enough for there to be a perception of KC.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

everybody loves to hate on raider nation

nobody outside the division for six weeks a year gives 2 shits about these twinkie-guzzling red-clad fatfucks….

everyone loves to hate us, my friends who are cowboy fans, steeler fans, charger fans, niner fans, dolfans, pats fans, jets fans, etc etc, they all love to get up in my business….

nobody cares about the chiefs. they haven’t been relevant in 40 years, their only pleasure comes from a lame invasion of an opponent’s blog and the occasional budweiser-fueled romp with their sweatpants-wearing wife.

but a boil on the ass of the history of the nfl. sunday we’ll lance it.

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

More big words

Here we go again with the Big Bad Raider nation that’s so huge it can’t fill a stadium. I’ll ask you whats worse – years of irrelevance or years of only being relevant because your drafts make everyone laugh?

by Chief Balls on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haven't been relevant in 40 years?

What was that Chiefs/Raiders rivalry record in the 90’s? Apparently, we ought to be relevant to at least you guys.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know much about Oakland

It’s rep is, I dunno, the West Coast version of Newark, but I also know how wrong New York’s general perception tends to be compared to the reality, so I take it with a shakerful of salt.

by twincitiesknick on Nov 3, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah ... that's why houses in the Oakland Hills go for like $1M

And that’s for like a 1400 sq. ft. house built in 1954.

That’s because it’s such a crappy town … that everyone hates …

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 3, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cost of living, dude. Cost of living...

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That supposed to mean something?

The same place that costs $1M in Oakland Hills probably go for 100K (if that) in the backwater shithole that is Kansas City Missouri.

Why is this? Because people will pay 10x more to live somewhere that doesn’t suck ass.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 4, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Again with the cost o living arguments.

This isn’t a political thread. If I wanted to read (much less be associated with) that shit I would have never joined this blog. You all are being sucked into an argument that has no grounds to stand on. The focus should be on kc’s running game and how they have been fortunate the win playing Martyball for so long which only gets them so far.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure Oakland isn't any better than KC.

In fact, my stepfather (he lived there for about a decade) calls it the “butthole of California.” :)

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 6, 2010 6:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your point is....? For I call Walnut Creek the butthole of California.

And I lived there for 10 years, and I visited it yesterday. De gistibus non est disputandum.

by Spirals galore on Nov 6, 2010 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

and what's up with all your appeals to authority? First, it was your 'mum'

now its one of her several concubines. Too bad that none of your many guiding influences didn’t teach you to keep your lips together .. or your knees.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aw. Someone's just butthurt over a former SoCal native committing treason.

You enjoy watching the game (if you even get to see it) while my stepfather and I trash talk the city in which he once resided. Seriously…there’s a reason why every opposing NFL team despises everything Raiders. Thanks for setting the example and living up to the stereotype.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 6, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

"if you even get to see it"??

You’re on it again? Why don’t you get back to your site. You have barely posted anything there lately.

by Spirals galore on Nov 6, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMAO! Rec'd

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 3, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can not wait for this game

It will be good! Even without Nnamdi!

by Ctb3 on Nov 3, 2010 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm a Giants fan

and the Raiders-Chiefs rivalry is by FAR the most fun to watch for me out of those not involving the Giants (Giants-Cowboys, Giants-Skins, Giants-Eagles).

Not even sure who I want to win – just great smacktalk throughout, and when both teams are good(ish?), makes it doubly fun.

by twincitiesknick on Nov 3, 2010 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

anyone notice that this forum is being flooding chiefs fans??? does it seem like their commenting more then we are?

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Its fine

sunday will speak for us

by Ctb3 on Nov 3, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Sunday will speak for you.

And it will say, “Oakland was way overrated.”

by JacinB on Nov 4, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What else do they have in their pitiful lives from Monday to Saturday

except troll troll troll. It’s all good, the overconfidence of both teams fans is a refreshing twist.

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Nov 3, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

No matter the outcome

This games gonna intensify(?) the hell outta this rivalry! If the flex-schedule was earlier this one has Sunday night written all over it!

by KCinIL on Nov 3, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

TRUE!

But both teams were over looked in when they were making the schedules. Even now both teams are underrated! More so the Chiefs than raiders.

by Ctb3 on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe it will get flexed when the raiders come to arrowhead

very possibly could be playing for the AFC west title in that game.

by chiefsfan83 on Nov 3, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

theyre positioned to make it into the playoffs!!! its fucken crazy

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean the same schedule you have with the exception of two games?

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Clev and Buff for Pitt and Miami

Two games is a big difference.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It still comes down to the divisional games

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless it doesn't...

again two games is a lot.

Hey, if the Raiders don’t win the division by two or fewer games, I’ll be looking towards the AZ game first and not making excuses, but that doesn’t change the fact that those two games make the Chiefs schedule markedly easier.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you beat us twice, have a better record in the division AND we still win it

You have a valid point.

This is a huge game for both teams.

I was told I could not post two comments here without an insult thrown my way. You have proved them wrong.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha there is some football talk inbetween the smack talk.

I really think it is a much bigger game for the Raiders. If they lose this game, they and the rest of the West, are going to have a hard time overtaking the Chiefs. It would take a bit of an implosion on the Chiefs part.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on the importance for the Raiders

I feel alright about not having a collapse just because we’ve been successfull with running the ball and stopping the run. We have shut down some pretty good RB’s so far this year. I’d be a little more worried if we were relying soley on chuckin it 40X’s per game. That being said, Cassel is still going to have to win us 4 or 5 games this year with some big drives. He had one last week.

I work in San Diego with a Raider fan and we’ll be watching the game together. This is what the NFL is about.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I was the Chiefs, I'd worry about injuries.

It seems like they’ve had a pretty good run at avoiding them, but those things can happen in spurts, especially with the bye already behind you. Sometimes, the extremes just maintain though. I am beginning to get the feeling that the Raiders are just destined to have one of those injury riddled seasons. They just can’t seem to turn the corner on them.

Ha! So, I am assuming you Charger co-worker will be rooting for the Raiders? That’s great. Viva la Football!

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I worry about injuries to our OL at the tackle spot

Asamoah is a rookie that filled in last week for Lilja at RG and nothing seemed to change. We’re pretty deep on the defensive side of the ball. Very, Very thin at WR though.

We have been very fortunate with injuries thus far but its bound to happen sometime during the season.

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

KC,

must respect their run game, props there. we’ll see who’s who and who can back up the talk. Are they an overhyped team who peaked early or are they for real? What I know is that they’re beatable. We impose our will and own the running game and clock; we jump them early and get them off their run game. We bum rush Cassel, all day. Speed kills; we’ll be flying. Field position with league leading kicking team. this shall be done.

by raiders4liffe on Nov 3, 2010 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

impose what?

good luck imposing your unstoppable run game. see what happened when you played a solid run defense in san fransisco? your juggernaut offense put up a whopping 9 points i think. you looked like an all pro running team the last two weeks because it was against terrible run defenses.

by bdom on Nov 3, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

S.O.N.S. or Saint

wheres the tailgating goin to be at? Wats the best way to get a hold of you guys?

by Marcofromda510 on Nov 3, 2010 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

In all seriousness...

what are the odds I get stabbed in the black hole if I’m wearing a Chief’s jersey?

by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 3, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

In the ACTUAL Black Hole, i.e. Southside End Zone at field level?

I wouldn’t go down there wearing a Chiefs jersey. Seriously, it’s not a good idea.

But as for The Coliseum in general … just don’t talk a bunch of shit (even when shit is talked to you) and you’ll be fine.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 3, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That crap wouldn’t happen at the Chief’s stadium. K.C. has more class then that.

by nailbiting on Nov 4, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Calm down like Arrowhead is the end all be all.

This team had a 9-0 start one year only to finish without anyone giving a crap and now a 5-2 start only to be brought down to earth. This team has had a lot of success not turning the ball over. Who’s to say that ends this week? After the way the season has played out that is very likely and also Oakland is due to gather a lot of turnovers after failing to generate picks all season. What better place than in front of a packed house at Oakland Alameda Cty Coliseum on 11/7/10 at 1:15PT?

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good Luck...

Cassel is overly safe in his throws, which he won’t have to chuck it anyone since our RBs are going to tear your defense up. You guys are the ones that are capable of turning the ball over. I think you will have over 120 yards rushing on the day, but will cough up the ball twice. Also, I think you will get a good kick off or punt return on the day. But, Chiefs win in a close one, 20-17.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 6, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marco, give me your email or P# and we'll connect

… will you be bringing the football this time?

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always better

when both teams are winning, but even when that doesn’t happen, we still love to hate the Raiders, and we know it’s mutual, bring it on!

by TailgateCouchGuy on Nov 3, 2010 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I just want to say

that Charles and Jones are gonna walk all over your defense. OH and if McCluster’s ankle is ok, you guys are are going to have a very big problem.

by thewhitebuffalo on Nov 3, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

It's okay

McFadden and Bush will average that out, and Cassel wont be able to throw for over 120 … again

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think

you are going to be shocked at how good the chiefs defense has become (compared to last year). But that’s ok, come sunday you will feel their wrath.

by thewhitebuffalo on Nov 3, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youll be surprised with ours as well

And our offense, we actually have more yards than the saints through 8. DMC if he didnt miss 2 games would be on pace to league the NFL in yards as well.

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 3, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just want to say

you haven’t experienced the DEX factor and I will leave it at that.

If you don’t know what that is go over to ARROWHEAD PRIDE and ask around.

by thewhitebuffalo on Nov 3, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

Or the Ford factor

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

well

being that not one RB has ran over 100 yards on us this season means that reece or McFlabbin or which ever faider you want to run at us will not do that well. But keep dreaming, the only thing the faiders have done well is……..well nothing really. Beating crappy heavily injured teams doesnt qualify as an accomplishment

by thewhitebuffalo on Nov 4, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Seahawks were not heavily injured until the Raiders got done with them.

It may happen again.

And…McFalbbin, what that’s the best you can do? Lame poor nickname attempt of the week Award winner right there.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey whitebuffalo bioyotch!

Don’t know if you’ve ever watched a show called NFL Matchup on ESPN but I have. There’s a major contributor named Merrill Hoge who uses the term factor back quite often. Marcel Reece falls into this category and since he hasn’t had to McFadden can be used the same way. This week with Miller out he may be asked to do so. Also the nickname is McBroken dumbass! Get it right!

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

When replying to a thread on AP about our rivalry being a matchup of good and evil and our teams being the antithesis of each other....

I said, and I quote:

"Bwahahaha @ you thinking Lamar Hunt had anything close to the impact that Al Davis had on the NFL.

With that said, I agree that the teams, cities, and fanbases are the complete antithesis of each other. Oakland is a beautiful place that’s a lil’ rough around the edges but with a rich history that KC could only dream of. The Bay Area in general has contributed a whole lot more to culture and of society in general than KC has. That ain’t necessarily a knock on KC, but we’ve brought the Counterculture Movement and the Black Panther Party to the world in a time when racial progress was at a standstill and people blindly followed the Vietnam War without taking a second to reassess the consequences of it.

Secondly, the Raiders reflect our city well when you think about it. We were the blue collar underdogs that developed a villainous reputation for winning at all costs, but even in our wildest Super Bowl years, we were still the hardest workers on the field. Fuck yeah we cheated, but that was only ‘cause "if you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’".

The Chiefs reflect their city well too in my honest opinion. Boring as hell but full of hard workers and boy scouts. There’s nothing wrong with that, but as a Raider fan, it’s always more fun win you beat the stuffing out of people with a team full of misfits, outcasts, assholes and functioning alcoholics.

I respect the fact that this rivalry is as old as the league itself, and that it IS one of good and evil. But you NEED evil in order to thrive. I think people got it all wrong. Lucifer didn’t want to be the embodiment of it originally, he only wanted God to step off his high horse and give him credit for all the work that him and his winged buddies were doing in the Pearly Gates. God refused and MADE him into the personification of evil to make a point.

Since then, Satan, Prince Darkness, Lucifer (or Father Luci as us Raider fans call him) has only been doing God’s work with the most sinister of intentions. The Raiders were much like the Young Lucifer before we won our first chip. We started out as the good guys, but we needed the Chefs and the Steelers to turn us into the team that we are today. 3 rings and numerous Hall of Famers later, I’d say evil fits us quite nicely since nice guys indeed finish last, and your team has done it’s fair share of that over the last 40 years (as has mine in the last 7 year). Now, this Sunday will prove who deserves to win a game of biblical proportions, and in my opinion, it is the absence of light that will prevail.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 3, 2010 2:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

You've got it all wrong, RZ. The Raiders are only considered evil by worldly standards - not by heavens. Remember Abraham?

he would be imprisoned today for attempted murder on Issac. But we know that he was doing God’s will even in the face of society’s censor and condemnation. The world is Satan’s for awhile longer and the Raiders are the truly good team because they play football without any pretenses or concessions to that perversity which Goodhell, the Chiefs, Patriots, et al. would hypocritically present.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Raider fan who's adolescent fandom was marred by the last 7 years of ineptitude....

I’m inclined to believe that God saw our hellacious play in the 70s and 80s and took it personal, and punished us for it. But after seeing your explanation…..hell….that makes sense too.

Either way you wanna put it, evil stay winnin’.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 3, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow this is hilarious

You might want to look up the history surrounding Kansas City. You bring up two passing fads. Have you ever heard of the Pony Express, Oregan Trail, Santa Fe Trail, Jesse James, Wyatt Earp, Harry S. Truman, The Atomic Bomb (this alone trumps your claim of influence), Basketball (invented at Kansas University), etc……………..

Let the pot smoke clear and you might be able to read a little better.

California is nothing more than a catch all for Liberals and Weirdos

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by teabaggingexper on Nov 3, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow I must have missed all that amazing history of dirt trails and nuclear waste dumps

while I was busy flying over it to other relavent parts of the country which actually contribute the nations’ GDP. Thanks for the lessen pal.

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Nov 3, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

without those "So called" dirt trails there would be no West Coast

You should be thankful, you are all decendents from Kansas City

.

by teabaggingexper on Nov 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you really want to get into a historical debate with me? 'Cause you really ain't helpin' your case here.

California is a much better state than Missouri in terms of historical and current relevance.

Missouri minus St. Louis is on par with Idaho, Montana, and both Dakotas in terms of cultural relevance. You need to get your facts straight homeboy ‘cause basketball was invented AND first played in Springfield Massachusetts, but being a KC hick and Queefs fan, I wouldn’t expect you to know that. And the Manhattan Project was neither developed in NOR tested in Missouri AND a Cal Berkeley professor played a more instrumental role in the development of that bomb than anybody from your God forsaken state. The difference between us and you cockguzzlers is that we don’t pride ourselves on making weapons so destructive that they still negatively affect people and the cities we dropped them on nearly 70 years later. I’m guessing Palin has your vote in 2012 huh? Despicable.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 3, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

every time i meet someone from overseas

they are always like “omg I can’t wait to get away from all you liberals and hot weird women and plentiful marijuana, can you tell me when the next pony express run leaves for missouri, i have always dreamed of visiting the ancestral home of harry s truman, not to mention a sign next to a trailer park that denotes the onetime start of the santa fe trail”

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Totally ...

That happens to me all the time too!

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 3, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think your history pages might be stuck together

Basketball was invented by James Naismith at the University of Kansas
The Atomic Bomb was dropped by Harry S. Truman from Independence Missouri.
I didnt know we are comparing states I thought you were talking Oakland and Kansas City.

You keep talking culture relevance, California WAS NOT the birth place of counter culture of the 70’s (if that is what you are referring to), London and New York clearly led the way on that. California is where the pussies that didn’t want to bomb cop shops (see weather underground) went to smoke pot and play the acoustic guitar while sitting on dirty sidewalks

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by teabaggingexper on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy crap i can't believe there are still people like you around

were you in “reefer madness?” do you have a bomb shelter for when the commies come and try to take over?

what a bunch of humorless, vanilla turds you are, arrowhead stadium must be like a giant hometown buffet with a football game in the middle

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude give up

Basketball was created in and first played in MASS. The guy Naismith just thought physical education at KU.

The A bomb was first tested in NM.

by Ctb3 on Nov 3, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually any elementry kid can google..why dont you try it.

I would love a link to back up your statements, then i will say your right.

Till then go kick rocks

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, So i thnk i can read
Springfield College: Invention of “Basket Ball”

Was not invented at the University of Kansas

The first game of “Basket Ball” was played in December 1891
in 1898 he joined the University of Kansas faculty at Lawrence, Kansas.

And the first game was not played there.

I’m starting to think your a troll…or just an idiot.

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the idiot???

Under orders from Dr. Luther Gulick, head of Springfield YMCA Physical Education, Naismith was given 14 days to create an indoor game that would provide an “athletic distraction”:

He worked at the Springfield YMCA dumbass

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

the idiot comment was not at you.

it was for the teabag guy. Sorry for the confusion.

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yes he did work at the Springfield YMCA

The whole point was that i was trying to tell the teabag guy that basketball was invented and first played in Springfield, MASS. Not in KC.

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

my bad

yes….we’re on the same page.

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

its ok

i should have clarified because i replied to your comment lol

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmmmm

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you are confused,but let me know if im wrong.

I’m not denying that Naismith invented basketball, Just letting him know it was not created in KC, and the first game was not played there. If i can very much read. :)

by Ctb3 on Nov 4, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are all wrong...

Ben Franklin invented Basketball when he and Chris Columbus needed to feel superior to the “Indians” after being embarrassed in hunting competitions.

As for the next debate let me settle that right now: On the first day God created for football.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

2nd: Boobs.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 4, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha funny, but wrong

God created Boobs before days

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a question

In the Chiefs homestate are the Rams or Chiefs more popular?

"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."

-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha

by DarthDavis on Nov 3, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You ARE a Teabagger

wonderful way at infusing emotion in a response to an honest question. The Midwest? That has a silicon valley type feel to it.

"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."

-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha

by DarthDavis on Nov 3, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you know what your talking about

you are an exper.

"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."

-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha

by DarthDavis on Nov 3, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why ask a Chiefs fan that question?

You honestly think we believe that was “an honest question”?

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always like you Raiders fans, living in the past.....

Meanwhile, in the modern era, California has one of the higher unemployment rates in the nation (including a stunning 17.2% in Oakland proper, no wonder you can’t sell game tickets), a perpetual budget deficit including a bitch of a problem developing in the public employee pensions, one of the least favorable business climate in the country, and a rapidly fleeing productive population and the resulting growing income inequality. All this while the south and midwest (excluding the upper midwest rust belt) demonstrate some of the most robust leading economic indicators.

 Yeah, some model. Face it Oakland. If California didn’t have climate and topography going for it, it’d be Detroit. (and I say this all as a resident of SoCal).

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

bitter much

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Nov 3, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

More bitter about 19 failing to be honest

Sadly, even those things that I as a libertarian would have hoped/expected the left to deliver on haven’t happened (though I also always have my misgivings with vice taxes which is essentially what 19 was calling for, I figured on balance it would be better than the de facto legalization for upper-middle class whites and resulting de facto discrimination in current state drug policy). But you guys couldn’t deliver on that. Fuck man, if you’re gonna kill evry other incentive for any business to start up here, at least give the entreprenurial stoners a damn reason not to leave the state.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

needed to spend some money on that thing

Never heard a thing about 19 in SD

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically the generation ahead of ours said no

I’d bet my any amount of money on it being legal in within 20 years

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Taking shots at losing jobs now? Your really scary Mr.Sudden

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not taking a shot at anyone losing their job, that sucks...

and I’m not sure how a discussion on macro-economics and public policy would earn me the moniker “internet tough guy” considering I’ve become accustomed to that title being used to refer to the people that say “i’ll kick your ass” or “come to the corner of 66th and San Leandro” etc.

The poster that I responded to was talking about what a beacon of light California is compared to Missouri, how California is this great marvel of economic and cultural strength. And I’ll agree both that is was certainly a more robust economic an cultural force than MO for most of its history(a lot of that owing to its natural resources and climate which have attracted people to it), that it still is fairly advanced in a number of regards including technology (good) and larger cultural influence (debatable, considering I don’t particularly think highly of much of CA’s recent cultural output in cinema, television, etc). But I’m certainly going to point out that California, as an economic force, is losing ground relatively speaking due to some of the larger policies we’ve sadly pursued. And I don’t do that to mock my fellow Golden Stater’s, I do that in the hopes of persuading us to look beyond our regional biases and acknowledge what other states (even states in those less-enlightened and yet robust economies of the midwest and south) are doing to right and what we might be messing up on.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 4, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually Basketball was originally Canadian

Strange isnt it, also seeing how much issues the nuke has given us. Not something to be proud of

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

spoken like a true Atheist. GO CHIEF’S

by nailbiting on Nov 4, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like they're from a foreign country. What they find amusing and what they pass off for logic is just astonishing

These creatures are a scandal to me. We must crush them Sunday and every time we meet till the end of the world.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Some are okay. Most aren’t. These Chiefs fans are the worst right now cause they’re extremely cocky.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell no, all of them over at their blog are cocky as hell. There are some that don't come because they

know they have it coming. They know they will get lit up. (Even the main Joel Thorman guy…omg)

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 3, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cocky?

 Eh some might be just like some of you raider fan’s don’t you think?

by rdubz on Nov 3, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't see the forest for the trees, bro.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

humility learned

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

if only you really knew

because joel is never “cocky” nor does he think we “have it coming”

Dexter McCluster for Rookie of the Year
2011 Chiefs Record Prediction: 8-8
Week 7 Adjusted Record Prediction: 11-5
____________________________

CHIEFS WILL
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE!

by KC Nate on Nov 3, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read one of his retarded posts. "The numbers say KC is #1" LMAO

Calm down Joel, calm down. The number are numbers, what matters is the record.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 4, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

what matters is the record

exactly

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

well that's even better

what matters is the record.

because our record is 5-2, the raiders are 4-4, and after this week the chiefs will go 6-2 while the raiders go down to reality at 4-5

Dexter McCluster for Rookie of the Year
2011 Chiefs Record Prediction: 8-8
Week 7 Adjusted Record Prediction: 11-5
____________________________

CHIEFS WILL
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE!

by KC Nate on Nov 4, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

we’re cocky?
“They know they will get lit up.”- Jagger Jaw
funny stuff

by dt4ever on Nov 3, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

As s.o.b. said

Logic (or its cousin, basic reading comprehension) is not their strong suit. Im not sure what their strong suit is, but it isn’t those.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 9:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Since you mentioned reading comprehension, here is a little irony.
Logic (or its cousin, basic reading comprehension) is not their strong suit. Im not sure what their strong suit is, but it isn’t those.

The first sentence has a singular subject (Logic) and you used the singular verb (is).

But then, in the second sentence, when you use a demonstrative pronoun to refer to the subject of the first sentence, you switched person and chose the plural (those).

Not that I care…I’m just giving you a hard time since you made the grammatical error in a post about reading comprehension =)

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and I missed one

Not only does the demonstrative pronoun need to be in the same person as the noun to which it refers, but it also needs to be in the same person as any relative pronouns which also refer to that same noun.

The second sentence can be:

I’m not sure what their strong suits are, but they aren’t those

or

I’m not sure what their strong suit is, but it isn’t that.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

the plural "those" refered to both "Logic" and "it's cousin reading comprehension" that was

referred to parenthetically. Also, Ms. Bluestocking, the irony backfires because lchristmas was writing about reading comprehension (as you acknowledge on the Subject line of your response) but your response took up another subject, Grammar. So, fuck-you.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

the plural “those” refered to both “Logic” and “it’s cousin reading comprehension” that was

referred to parenthetically.

Then the sentence should have used ‘are’ instead of ‘is’

Using proper grammar increases the likelihood that readers will comprehend what you write – the two are inextricably linked.

P.S. I have no idea why you included a superfluous hyphen in your last sentence, but it was interesting.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grammar is descriptive of linguistics

Using proper grammar increases the likelihood that readers will comprehend what you write

Grammar develops as a result of the way people verbally communicate. Assigning Grammar the supreme role of verbal communication, as you would, is unnatural … Abusing farm animals is also unnatural as Missouri’s unique sex ed. probably covered.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 5, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that is "irony"

But what do I know, I can’t get my subjects and verbs to agrees

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 11:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Irony is definitely the term to use.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, about 99% of the time people say something's 'Ironic' ...

The proper word would actually be ‘paradoxical’.

Which is the case here.

So … You definitely Fail.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 4, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

same goes for "realatively" when what is meant is "comparatively"

but it’s wasted on these bean counters, BJV, who care only about red-garments, greasy food, and correct spelling.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grammar, not spelling

=)

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 6:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm now in full agreement. Charger "fans" are insipid and devoid of true passion but

not monolithicly homespun and offensive to every decent civilized instinct.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Far too nuanced for the likes of CHIEFFAN82

But a very apt characterization of these people. And they feed and breed. Scary.

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 7:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol funny

“Man…you come straight out of a comic comic book” I love the shout out, but all the Raiders fans I know, dismiss every season subsequent to 1999. I forgot you were in the AFC West until a special on NFL Network. I sit patiently awaiting Sunday to drink the tears of Raider fans as they turn back to their “Al Davis needs to die” montra! There is no tape on how to stop the KC RUSH, so sit back and enjoy as KC RUNS through that team like Ex-Lax. I’m surprised Al isn’t cutting us a check for boosting attendence up to a whooping 40,000 fans and we know those checks are bad in Oak so we want Cash!

by CHIEFFAN82 on Nov 3, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

You made an “ex lax” joke??? my working theory was that you must be 12, but I haven’t heard that old knee-slapper for 20 years, so you must just be a very special adult. What else you got… “I’m rubber youre glue?” “make like a tree and leave?”

Where do you people come from? Is there anyone in your village with an iq above 70 who can explain that you are embarrassing yourself?

I would try to lower myself to your level somehow but I’m scared that if I bang my head against the wall that hard I might end up getting deported to the midwest

by lchristmas on Nov 3, 2010 10:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Bravo!

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its obvious you

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are too funny man

So far, you’ve demonstrated an extreme hyper-sensitivity to any comment that can be remotely connected to the idea that Raider nation includes a sizable hispanic fanbase (which is generally regarded as a truism due to nothing other than the demographics of california, both oakland and los angeles, much the same way you can buy a shirt that says doyers instead of dodgers at friggin dodger stadium down here). I live in l.a., have a lot off friends that are both latino and Raiders fans, and none off them gets so offended or defensive about the connection between the raiders or doyers and the hispanic fanbase in socal.

 And yet, you seem to not blush at the idea of poking fun at individuals with special needs, a group of people that has limited means of defending themselves. Shameful, hypocritical, and rather predictable.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 3, 2010 11:46 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was making fun of your idiotic running buddy, and all the rest of your ilk currently polluting this website

Not people with special needs

None of which should distract from Your comments that were not “remotely connected” to anything… you made a lame-ass racist “lots of raider fans have crossed the border” joke and then an equally unfunny “dodging bullets in richmond (haha blacks live in richmond I get it hilarious brah)” “joke” ….

Just embrace it, +58 it like your brahs up above on the “hispanic uncle” post….

Why don’t you ask your imaginary hispanic friends about whether they find your humor offensive, or even better – move back to whichever flyover state you thought you were too good for

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 7:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Meh, I don't much expect you to agree with my larger narrative here

but I would just state that racism is and should be relegated to the idea of judging individuals entirely on the part of their group affiliation and not giving each individual a chance to prove their individual merit. I treat every individual I come into contact with as an individual, and not as part of a group. Moreover, I don’t think recognizing harmless propensities among larger communities is an example of a pernicious racism. And I think a few light-hearted jokes (whether or not you find them particularly humorous) is not akin to walking around in white hoods and burning crosses on front lawns or minority families. Hell, just watch comedy central sometime, comedy is one massive clusterfuck of everyone ragging on everyone else and having a good laugh.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 4, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

No I do not disagree with your grand narrative

I do disagree that making jokes about groups of people shooting at one another and having to sneak across the border refers to “harmless propensities”

Good day.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 9:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The border thing was a bit uncouth, I'll confess to that

but the Richmond thing? Eh, I never said or suggested anything about the ethnic makeup of Richmond, but it is nonetheless known as a fairly high crime area.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 4, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Before you post anything about Richmond's high crime rate,

you should research more about its ethnic makeup. And generally, it’s best to avoid stereotyping.

by Spirals galore on Nov 4, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are far too kind...

Working theory??? Must be a work-release program as you clearly do not present any intelligence or seem overly crass. Not too many villages in NJ but it seems the inmate degree program doesn’t cover geography, so I won’t hold that against you. Lastly, you seem to have bump your head plenty so a few more shouldn’t affect your level of thinking at this point. Honestly, I could care less about your opinions of me considering you’re a Raiders fan and logic isn’t your strong point but you WILL respect my squad. Don’t take it personal, just take it…

by CHIEFFAN82 on Nov 4, 2010 6:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dont "present any intelligence or seem overly crass?????"

And logic isnt my strong point? You are literally too dumb to insult.

Oh and “sudden” – embrace your racist nature, playing the “i have _ friends” is not exactly a solid defense of your words.

Its been educational and fascinating conversing with you all. Perhaps youd be more comfortable over at the self congratulatory thread over at ap which is basically a circle jerk, we’re great and classy fans, filled with every ghetto gangster you might get stabbed stereotype haha raider fans are poor and stupid, then one of them caps it off by comparing themselves to a “good german family…” All that’s missing is the white hoods.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 7:33 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

thanks for explaining...

You’re the definition of why California is a pro abortion state. Thanks for reminding…
Good Day Sir.

by CHIEFFAN82 on Nov 4, 2010 8:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

There are no words to express how amazing you are

that’s not a compliment

I would keep going back and forth with you but its like trying to explain sentence structure to someone who cant read

I hope the rest of you chief fans are proud of this guys representation

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 9:07 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope the rest of you chief fans are proud of this guys representation

Not particularly.

But then again, I doubt you are proud of some of the Raiders fans that troll over at Arrowhead Pride.

Trolls are trolls, and should be dismissed as such.

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excuse me?

Aren’t you dabbling in the practice of hypocrisy?

You don’t represent your own blog very well. In response to my first post, you resorted to elementary insults thinking it would help you get your point across.

He who points a finger knows there are three fingers pointing toward him.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

"You're touting your win against Denver..."

That post. And it was a question, not an attempt to mock. I suppose offering a sound rebuttal was the wrong thing to do. You really ARE thin-skinned. Lay off the estrogen for awhile (now THAT is being condescending).

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are a supercunt

Are all KC hoes as annoying as you?

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was unaware a female could be compared to an inanimate object.

Thanks for the heads up. -Cue eye roll-

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly....

Besides, most Repugnicants and “pro-life” idiots are FOR the death penalty, which is a contradiction in and of itself. So instead of being pro-life, they are really ANTI-Choice which is a dangerous position to have.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not go there, RZ; remember the Nation is diverse and our uniting bond is the Raiders

note: The Raiders have never made me choose between them and my Catholic faith.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 5, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, you're Republican?

That would explain some things, but I’ll try not to hold it against you. Hahaha.

I know a few Catholic Raider fans that are just as rabid as we are, and they all have their priorities in order on Sundays…. They’ll tell you themselves that the Raiders always come first. Haha.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate both parties and hate politics (used to be a consumer like I am about football)

couldn’t find a team or player worth routing for in the game of politics.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 5, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you can't take the heat, get the fluff out of the kitchen. \:D/

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its kinda like walking into a Benz Dealership

If you have to ask, you probably don’t need to know…

by CHIEFFAN82 on Nov 3, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

My email is

Marco.montufar@yahoo.com email me and ill reply with my number. I will be bringing some trip tip n I might have a football avaliable. Ill get back to u on that one.

by Marcofromda510 on Nov 3, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

"Squaw Valley'" Of The Great Wilderness Plain East Of "Mulesville" In Their Stat Of Misery...

Very one dimensional culture…They luv to run but pass on anything else…They think they scare or impress someone with “Show Me”….

Ya know like that long silver sword is going to remove your head…“Show me”….“SLASH” n that headless bitch falls to the turf but the next one steps right up and proclaims “Show Me”….“SLASH”….It just repeats over and over and you’d think they’d learn but nope…Just “Show Me”…..“SLASH”!!!!….

by PantyRaider on Nov 3, 2010 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, this thread is going to overflow by tomorrow night. So, I’m done with the trash talking on Chiefs fans.

You’re all too cocky. Way too cocky. It’s ok. I knew you would be after a few wins, but this is seriously bad. I can’t wait till Sunday. It’ll be fun to watch Seymour knock Jamaal’s dick in the dirt. Peace, ya’ll.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Nov 3, 2010 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

cool

maybe we can take a lesson in humility from you jake

It’ll be fun to watch Seymour knock Jamaal’s dick in the dirt. Peace, ya’ll.

what’s awesome is that this is in the same comment that you bashed fans about being cocky in.

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

How has McClain looked this season?

I really liked the guy out of the draft and thought at one point it could be who we would take. Does he relay the plays in for the defense or is it someone else?

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 8:13 PM PDT reply actions  

imo, he's is coming around surely and slowly...

i liked him coming out and thought he was gonna have an immediate impact. but to be honest, he’s showing that he is a rookie more so then showing his potential often then not.

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Same thing with Berry although he's been good in run support

I think nowadays people think these rookies can step in and perform at a probowl level from Day 1. Always exceptions but I wasn’t happy to see McClain go to you guys. He’s what you want in the middle of the defense. I think he’ll only get better. What was the reaction with you guys on what he said about attendance?

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've watched a few Raider games

Berry has been doing a lot more than McClain has, I loved McClain leading up to the draft, it’s kind of surprising to see him be this bad, I thought he was pretty pro ready.. But he’ll probably shake it off eventually.

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing pre-draft

But it seems a little unrealistic for a ILB to dominate from day 1. The speed and size of the guys takes some getting used to no matter how talented you are.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

i miss hawaii...

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

that was for 808

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't blame you

I left for a year, when I came home I never wanted to leave again.. There are just things here that cannot be replaced or compensated for.

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Be this bad?

McClain hasn’t been bad. He has had some bad plays, but he has not been bad by any stretch of the imagination.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

enlighten us

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noontide just did

Hes been fine. He missed some assignments early but has improved lately along with the rest of the defense. To say “i never thought he’d be this bad” is quite inaccurate.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 7:47 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

One of the questions about McClain going into the draft was how he would fit in a 4-3

where MLB’s usually need good sideline to sideline speed (which wasn’t one of McClain’s strengths). Because of this, many thought he would be a 3-4 ILB.

How has that been affecting him?

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Up and down

He’s growing into it slowly but he’s really helped our defense, he’s had some draw dropping tackles (he likes to throw people…)

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 4, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is never going to be one of these freak lbs that run like a corner

but we knew that going in. he’s fast enough to play the position. He was drafted to provide run support and fill the gaps like kirk morrison could not do.

His bad plays have come from being out of position and getting walled off, not from a lack of speed. But he is getting better at that. He is showing good instincts in the run blitz and if he gets his hands on you youre going down hard. I don’t think he has many coverage responsibilities in our schemes, we have mike mitchell for that who has been outstanding.

by lchristmas on Nov 4, 2010 9:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I haven't seen him play much this season

but we were heavily scouting him, and a lot of the discussion over at AP was that he lacked the speed to play the Mike in a 4-3, but that weakness would be moot if he were the SILB in a 3-4 (where he would usually be responsible for only one half of the field)

Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl

by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

well he's entitled to his opinion and i personally dont really care if Rolando talks or not

id rather hear the QB or Seymoure, Nam, or even Hue Jackson speak because i dont really put alot of the teams success is in rolando’s efforts but i like to hear from the team leaders more so then not.

when he came out and his reaction and actions to joining the team and getting drafted, i expected a lot. like a brian cushing, dameco ryans, urlacher, clay mathews type of return… i know they all play different positions at LB but my expectations were that of them and not aaron maybin or AJ hawk… its not fair to compare this early in his career but ive been more disappointed then anything.

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bit surprising

I thought he’d be pretty dependable early and only get better.

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh he is getting better

but in my opinion… he’s developing like most of our guys did… Routt, Huff, DMC, T.kelly…. surely but slowly

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 3, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best thing about KC is tech n9ne

by bigpimpin on Nov 3, 2010 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

bbq

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Chiefs football.

Or MU football.

Or KU basketball.

I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.

by SupremeChief on Nov 4, 2010 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keep Underestimating the Raiders.

It only gives us a better chance. Raiders are pumped, and they’re going to be playing to a full house that came to support. All you cocky folks in KC are showing the same exact characteristics that are going to end up in a loss for your beloved team, you think it’s going to be a cakewalk, and you’re going to hit a wall. KC just BARELY beat the only winless team in football…. they were one field goal away from being 4-3 …Just sayin.

by Johnathan Marshall on Nov 3, 2010 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

right

because fans underestimating a team has any relevance in the game.

BUF v. NE 8 point difference
BUF v. MIA 5 point difference
BUF v. BAL 3 point difference

I don’t think you’d say KC is close to as talented as any of those teams, but by your logic we are.

2010 predictions live by em die by em
- Chiefs do what they did last year and double their win total.. Good for a second place finish in the AFC West
-McCluster is considered for ROY, doesn't win it
- Arenas takes two to the house
- Carr becomes a legitimate corner
-Flowers gets jipped in Pro Bowl voting

by 808NaNz808 on Nov 3, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barely beating a Buffalo team is still better than losing to SF and AZ

Who cares is “some” fans are cocky? Works both ways. You seem to think that the Chiefs players won’t be pumped knowing they can seperate themselves from the division AND put their rival back under .500. Come on Man…

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true

 But it’s any given Sunday and I’m sure this Sunday is going to be a battle for both teams. I’m just happy to see the AFC West turned upside down this year…. I can’t stand the Chargers at all. But anyhow, Hopefully this will be an injury free game for both teams. Best of luck through out the season but not this Sunday =)

by rdubz on Nov 3, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

it will be a great showdown this sunday.

and just a great game overall and it should be very close.

Dexter McCluster for Rookie of the Year
2011 Chiefs Record Prediction: 8-8
Week 7 Adjusted Record Prediction: 11-5
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BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE!

by KC Nate on Nov 3, 2010 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn, the rivalry is alive and well!

What a spirited thread.

In my other previews I have actually posted fanshots on the oppositions blog for them to come over and check it out and no one really does. Those that do, act like guests.

To be honest, that is boring. This is football! It is made up drama! We should smack talk. For anyone actually taking some of these comments personally…get a grip on life. This is entertaining and this is what a good rivalry should be.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:16 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

love the sig....even for a Raiders fan

We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.
~Aristotle

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should change your sig

because with it, it is impossible to believe you are a Chiefs fan!

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy Shit

I just laughed for a good 30 seconds! I can hear it in my head.

I promise; I will never die.

by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Classic line

Can never look at Baldwin without thinking about that movie and the film actors guild

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 3, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is one of the best movies EVER!

I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
-Jack Tatum

by DarksideJU08 on Nov 4, 2010 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess not

I got warned for a pic exactly like that almost

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 12:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen hella people say "no homo" on that sight with no repercussions....

They’re very selective as to who it’s acceptable to be racist and homophobic towards.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 4, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha.

wow your site calling out my site for being idiotic. Ironic. got to love raider fans. Classy.

by flavian79 on Nov 4, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

"No homo" is a joke reference to Dwayne Bowe ...

He added it after saying how much he loved one of his teammates or somesuch.

See also: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20homo

by JacinB on Nov 4, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he used a bad term

So it’s cool for everyone to do it? It’s fucking all biased over there. If you had aids would you be offended by HIV2ELWAY I probably would. I’ve seen many homosexual derogatory comments over there from time to time. I’m not getting all sensitive but I may have got banned by Chris for something like that. Who knows they would never even tell me, I think because he didn’t know. No offense to him but Kalo or Beswaf could wipe a turd on a page and everyone would rec the shit out of it.

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%

You can say what you want around there but if your in the click. If not Chris w/ his child molester mustache will ban you.

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Fuck it man, let’s just pretend to be our stereotypes to a t.

So I’ll go ahead polish my last remaining tooth after I spit a wad of chewing tobacco out, hop into my oversized Chevy truck and blast the Kenny Chesney, and drive a dirt road to get back to my double wide stocked with a fridge full of Bud Light and pregnant wife.

You go ahead and hop in your lowrider fresh off a meeting with the P.O., spark that bleezey as you bump the Too Short, and head back to the barrio.

We’ll see whose team prevails on Sunday, and we’ll both just be thankful that the douchebags in San Diego and Denver are catching up with either of our teams haha. The AFC West is at its best when the rivalry that defines it is Oakland/KC.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 4, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watch it motherfucker....

I like Kenny Chesney. Keep him out of it.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

deal. The best MC’s always have a diverse range of musical tastes and influences, and the East Bay has produced some legendary ones (not really a Too Short fan myself, but tons of respect for Hiero, LivingLegends, etc.)

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 5, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good. *Puts shank back in pocket*

The only music I can’t stand to listen to is techno/house/trance etc… and Metal. I always tell my colleagues that Country is to rural white folk what Hip-Hop is to inner city minorities. It’s scary how similar yet polar opposite those two genres are but alot of people don’t give country music the kind of respect it deserves imo. I’d blast Drinkin’ Bone by Tracy Byrd waaaay before I’d play any rap song that’s on the radio.

Too Short and E-40 have both fell off in recent years, but Zion I, Heiro, and Boots Riley all rep the East Bay proudly. There’s a lot of local up and coming talent that haven’t even scratched the surface yet. You should be on the lookout.

Even though I myself am an MC, Hip-Hop and Rap both are unique as musical genres in the sense that they both take some of the best elements of other genres and blend them into a sound that nearly everybody can identify with, so it’s tantamount for any MC albeit good or bad to have diverse tastes/influences.

It’s good to see a Chiefs fan that doesn’t have a permanent stick up their ass and also doesn’t call dibs when they hear that they have a new sister/brother/cousin/niece/nephew on the way. Kudos to you, dude. Hahaha. JK.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting take on the country: rural white :: hip-hop: urban minorities

Actually makes a ton of sense and sounds like a pretty spot on social observation. I myself am not a fan of much modern country, but dig the classics like Haggard, Cash, Jennings, Willie, etc. But the two genres actually do have some pretty erie paralells the more I think about it.

As for the hiphop, I’m with you on that. Obviously, sampling has always been one of the strengths of hip-hop, and I think one of the elements thats helped it gain so many fans (fans of another genre hear something they listen to sampled in a rap song and then end up discovering the depth and meaning of the lyrics and how it adds to the sampled track). It’s one of the reasons that hiphop is catching on so much globally. As for MCing, I might dabble in that a bit myself (the name I blog under here is in fact rooted is my stage name, eventhough I haven’t graced a stage in years lol). I’ve always likened hiphop to true poetry, one of my favorite things to spit is an old anti war WWI poem, “Dulce et Decorum Est” by Wilfred Owen, kinda forces people who are dismissive of hiphop to realize the potential for serious topical discussions and radical change that the medium possesses (I’ve always felt the sheer volume of words available in hiphop and the more freeform structure gives it so much more potential to address the issues of the day than most other musical mediums). Although, its not always about critical, thought provoking issues for me, I’ve always wanted to put together a track that was essentially 4 verses, each representing a a quarter of football in the Raiders/Chiefs rivalry, as you might imagine, my version likely ends a bit differnt than your would….

Jason Campbell picked off by Eric Berry in the 59th minute,
Final score 20-17; Kansas City Chiefs win it.

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." -Gandhi.

by Sudden on Nov 5, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The similarities between Country/Western and/or Bluegrass and Hip-Hop/Rap are as vast as the differences

Just like with Country and Western, one genre is known more for a more upbeat tempo (Western) while the other is known for it’s subject matter and the story telling aspect of it (Country). Just like Hip-Hop is the genre known more for lyrics and story telling (ie Nas, Common, The Roots, Rakim, Lupe Fiasco) and Rap is known more for the dance/pop aspect of it, as is the case for every song you hear on the radio. It pisses me off that people on both sides love to downplay that assertion because they have misconceptions about the other genre.

I think sampling has contributed to the rise AND the fall of Rap. It’s gotten to the point where you’ll hear a sample sampled by another sampled that’s sampled and now people are more familiar with a sampled work than they are with the source, even though part of the original intention of sampling was to bring attention to lesser known works of lesser known artists.

For example, the melody of Ready or Not by The Fugees was taken from an old Enya song (which is one of my favs btw), but when Mario Winans sampled the song by the Fugees, he had no idea that what he sampled was a sample itself. To me, as an artist, it’s kinda frustrating to see such an important tool be abused like that.

I’m a Slam Poet as well as an MC so you don’t have to sell me on the fact that Hip-Hop is poetry. I used to think that Rap was an acronym for Rhythmic American Poetry until Souljah Boy maintained a career. :-(

That track sounds pretty dope, regardless of your take on the outcome. You should do it man. I’d like to hear what you come up wit’.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry

actually I’m not

Raiders will be swept by the Chiefs this year…..

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 3, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Your a COCK

Y person to make that statement. We haven’t swept in awhile. I don’t see either teams sweeping IMHO. I think if they win Sunday we win here. If we win Sunday they win here. It doesn’t matter what the records are it just seems like that’s the way it goes recently.

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why the insult?

You upset that I said a statement in your new home? It’s ok keep being a bandwagon Chiefs fan.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

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by Chiefsfan85 on Nov 4, 2010 3:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love Grads and all but.....

What’s up with Coach slightly dissing Campbell after the performances he’s put on these last few weeks by saying “it’s clear cut” that Gradkowski is the starter and “we know who our quarterback is.” WTF?!? Imagine being a basketball player and starting two games and almost scoring 50 in both then when the guy u were playing for comes back from injury your coach automatically puts u back on the bench and barely uses u. That would have to be just a little bruising to ones ego!

by GSBoi86 on Nov 4, 2010 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Not really. Campbell was pretty bad for the first 3 quarters, excluding that 30 yard TD to Reece.

That game would have probably been a loss if our defense didn’t dominate the way they did. Campbell still hasn’t shown that he can take over a game and will a team to victory the way that Grad has done.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 4, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, pretty bad for 300 YDS and 2 TD's, I wonder what good looks like...

Okay, now why is it a fluke when Campbell steps into the SD game and throws for 160 yards and a touchdown but when Bruce does it it’s because he’s the chosen one? This is starting to get ridiculous. All I’m saying is he hasn’t been TERRIBLE the last couple of games. Why doesn’t Cable just do it the same way he was before the season started and make it a competition for the starting spot. Don’t hand the spot over to Bruce giftwrapped just because.

by GSBoi86 on Nov 4, 2010 1:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Were you even looking at the same game I was looking at.

The offense couldn’t do shit when the Seahawks were shutting our run down in the first 2 1/2 quarters and Campbell almost didn’t even throw the ball on our sole TD in the first half. I get nervous when Campbell is in ‘cause he was never the kind of QB to take over when everything else isn’t going as planned. If our defense can’t shut the run down against KC and they shut our running lanes down on offense, Campbell will NOT win the game for us.

He only plays well when everything else is going well, but if asked to win the game for us, you get games like the Titans, Rams and Niner game. Most of Campbell’s yards came in the 2nd half after their defense started to wear down and we had made it a more than 2 possession game. I know what I’m talking about man. I just don’t have confidence in JC. He lost that with a 10.6 QB rating a few weeks back. And to be honest, our defense and special teams won that SD game too. Without those blocked punts and that forced fumble, that game would have been a bad loss for us. Campbell did a great job of managing the game, but he’s nothing more than a checkdown king.

I think he should start for us until Bruce is 100% but unless he proves he can sustain a drive when we’re down and he can’t rely on the running game and checkdowns to bail him out, I won’t be convinced that he should start. I’m not a blind Bruce follower at all, but Bruce’s play, when healthy, shows that there is a reason the coaches have confidence in him as our starter. He’ll, there’s a reason Washington gave JC up for some peanuts, a dub sack and some coupons but hopefully he can ball out of control and prove me and the whole Redskins organization wrong. We’ll see this Sunday though.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 4, 2010 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Zealot, there you go again !!

Opening your mouth before you think, that’s a bad habit you got going there!!! I saw your argument about on the history lesson, and thought I might have rushed judgement on you,(that jackass comment on blk QB’s) but no, 1st thought is usually the best thought !!! Campbell puts what, a 120.6 rating for the game, but as you stated, he didn’t do all that great in the 1st 3 quarters!!! Are you fucking serious !!! Well I don’t know if you can get that high of a rating, for 1quarter of play. What was the score at half time ??? Defense did their jobs, and so did Campbell, No mistakes !!!! Lets see, 500+ yards for the last 2 games !!! He’s responsible for 530 yards passing of the 1,000+ yards gained, with no int’s, no fumbles !!!! Do us a favor and just stfu !!! Your thinking is like the Raiders Coaching before the Denver game. On again, Off again !!!!

by papabegood on Nov 4, 2010 2:35 AM PDT reply actions  

You really don't know much about football do you?

It’s not the final stats that matter, it’s his play during those games that matter. The Donks game was a pure anomaly since it was pretty much out of reach after the 1st quarter and he didn’t really have to throw that much that game. You really think 12/20 is worth getting your panties in a bunch over when our RBs were averaging 5-10 ypc? You must be just as ridiculous as your type font if you think JC’s anything more than a game manager just because he played average in a 45 point blowout that he didn’t contribute much to. Our running game and defense blew that game wide open.

We couldn’t really sustain a drive for shit in the Seattle game’s first half (except for the two we scored on) since they knew our run game was our bread and butter. There were a couple of plays where JC made a dumb decision but caught a break, like that 55 yard deflection to Bush that should’ve been intercepted. Bruce makes boneheaded plays too, don’t get me wrong, but he can read defenses better than Campbell when the pressure is on and he only goes to his checkdowns as a last resort (which is the antithesis of JC). If KC shuts our run game down and Campbell can will us to victory with his arm, I’ll be the first to say I was wrong about him, but 5 years in Washington and an average half a year here say otherwise.

Even with 3 of his last 4 games being great, he still has an 82.5ish QB rating an a 55% completion percentage. He’s inconsistent at best but I’m willing to role with the hot hand after the bye week if he can prove he can win without an unstoppable run game and without having to rely on our defense or ST to bail him out. The Niner game was proof in the pudding of that. You have no idea how much I’d love to eat crow about him like we all ate with McFadden, but don’t let BSPN fool you about Campbell.

by Raider Zealot on Nov 4, 2010 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Despite RZ's occaisional lapses in other areas (theology, sociology) he has a good head

for reasoning and history and put an argument together that you have not rebutted with anything other than “stay the course”.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow

do raider fans really.. i mean… really read this post and not see some really really bad info from the author. this guy is relating bush and mcfadden as the best EVER in a duo in both running and receiving off of a few games vs a CAREER. noon may want to think about his integrity b4 he writes silly things.

by flavian79 on Nov 4, 2010 2:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Haha...that's not what I said.

You know, I thought it was pretty clear, what the assertion was, but then again…I was writing it for Raiders fans.

Here let’s try this again. Sound it out by syllables:

I don’t think it is absurd to say the McFadden and Reece may be the most dynamic and versatile receiving backfield duo in the history of football.

Not only did you not understand what the premise of the assertion was, but you failed to see which players were being discussed.

Also, what does this have to do with integrity? Did you mean credibility? Welcome to literacy, it is an exciting world.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit!

I heart Noontide, no homo!

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

if there is one thing we can agree on...

it’s that our respective teams are no longer bottom dwellers and no longer considered among the worst in the NFL.

Dexter McCluster for Rookie of the Year
2011 Chiefs Record Prediction: 8-8
Week 7 Adjusted Record Prediction: 11-5
____________________________

CHIEFS WILL
BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE!

by KC Nate on Nov 4, 2010 6:32 AM PDT reply actions  

The Texans who also utilize a Zone Blocking scheme and a speedy back averaged 6 yards per carry on the Chiefs.

In the Houston game, which speedy back averaged 6 yards per carry on the Chiefs?

Foster 18 carries for 71 yards, 3.94 ypc
Ward 3 carries for 58 yards, 19.33 ypc

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010101704/2010/REG6/chiefs@texans/analyze#analyze

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 7:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, I see, you are saying the Texans as a team averaged 6 ypc

Correct…though the one 38 yard run certainly skewed that statistic. Remove it and they averaged a more normal 4.48 ypc.

however, somebody in the league is averaging over 6 yards per carry not in one game, but over the first 7 games of the season…guess who that is? ;-)

(and for bonus points, also guess the three players in NFL history who have completed a season averaging over 6 yards per carry)

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The same can be said for you. The big runs skew the statistic of your suppossed scary 6 yards-

per carry. Or have you not had any big runs?
Surprised the Texans didn’t run it more but they won so I guess passing was their way… The total of 21 carries is not that good.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 4, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jones had a 70 yarder (the longest of his career)

and Charles ripped off a 56 yarder against SD.

But most of Charles runs have been between 5 and 15 yards.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding Foster

the Texans didn’t run it more, because we did a good job against Foster – he broke a 21 yarder on us, but only had 50 total yards on his other 18 carries for a not great 2.78 ypc average.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's good to see you are practiced in the,

“well, It’s good to see you are practiced in the…if you take away the long carries, we put up decent run stopping numbers,” game, because you are going to need it that on Monday.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

it wasn't long carries, it was one carry (singular) and in only one game

We have played common opponents, so some comparisons are straightforward. Look at Frank Gore’s stats against the Chiefs and compare those to his stats against Oakland.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frank Gore

against KC – 15 carries, 43 yards (2.9 ypc) with a long run of 6 yards

against OAK – 25 carries, 149 yards (6.0 ypc) with a long run of 64 yards

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

We are practiced in the take away stat game too

But you are bringing up something that wasn’t in debate. I was not comparing the run Ds. I was pointing out your struggles against a similar rushing attack and scheme.

Also, what the hell? After you tried to make it a point of being a singular carry four minutes later you played the game again with a 21 yarder.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was pointing out your struggles against a similar rushing attack and scheme.

There were no struggles – Houston’s running game is not what beat us.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, forgive my ignorance of football then.

I have always thought giving up 6 YPC was struggling.

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by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should always dig deeper and investigate statistics like that

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, and after further investigation, I am still willing to call it struggling

You take away their longest run and you still have 4.48 YPC. That’s still struggling. Your investigation is not investigation at all, it is rationalization.

To say they didn’t run it more, because it was not a factor is crazy. They had to come back and they were having great success through the air.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did Houston have to "come back"?

And if you think 4.48 YPC is struggling, then most of the league “struggles” with defending the run

because the league average of every runner on every team usually hovers around 4.2 yards per carry,

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't even tell if you are serious right now

They had to come back because they were trailing for the majority of the game.

And as you said the league average usually is 4.2 and 4.48 is noticeable worse than that. In fact, it would rank them 21st.

Again that was taking out the longest run. You also say the run wasn’t a factor, yet two of the 4th quarter TDs were on runs 2 and 1 yard runs by Foster.

And since we are investigating more closely, take away those runs where he was stopped by the endzone and the 39 yarder, you like to subtract and you have a rushing average of 4.71, which would rank 28th.

I hope the Chiefs feel as you do that these numbers are not struggling against the run.

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by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't compare numbers like this at all

Schemes completely change. They have that beast of a WR that demands a lot of attention from our secondary. No disrespect to the WR’s on the Raiders but they dont demand the same attention that AJ does.

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some D's are better at stopping a ZBS vs Power blocking scheme

and vice versa. I don’t know if this is the case with the Chiefs or not, but looking at that game it may be.

You are right about the WRs, but good or not, they can still stretch a D and require attention deep…unless the Raiders are failing to pass protect.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

They had to "come back" because their running game wasn't cutting it

Watch Houston play against Indy in Week One, and then watch their game against the Chiefs, and then tell me how effective their rushing offense (and Foster in particular) was in each game.

And I repeat, I don’t care if Houston chose to run it in from the 2 and 1 yard lines…Matt Schaub was the only reason they made it to the red zone in the first place.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Schaub can kick ass without the play-action

I don’t think Campbell, Gradkowski, or Cassel are nearly as effective without the threat of a run.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are really dead set in completely disregarding 6 YPC aren't you?

Okay, it played no factor at all in the loss.

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by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny ’cause it totally did.

Hippy/Raider fanatic.

by JaKe. on Nov 5, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

You should watch that game

it certainly didn’t

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 6:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is an insane assertion

They ran for over 120 yards and 3 TDs.

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by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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After you tried to make it a point of being a singular carry four minutes later you played the game again with a 21 yarder.

I played no game – I was explaining why Houston didn’t run it more (since JaggerJaw commented that they only ran it 21 times)

They didn’t run it more because other than the one 21 yarder, Arian Foster was basically ineffective. I don’t care whether the 21 yard carry is counted or not… Foster was not a factor in the Texans’ win over the Chiefs, but he was a factor in the Texans’ win over the Raiders.

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

So take away the big run and Gore has 85 yards on 24 carries

Or 3.5ypc. Not that different from what he did against you.

And you had him at your own house, unlike us.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 4, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

85 yards isn’t that different from 37 yards? (if you take away Gore’s longest run against each of us)

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 5, 2010 6:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

MJD had 16 carries for 47 yards against the Chiefs

and I even included his 21 yard run just for you =)

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by PVChiefsfan on Nov 4, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny

Its funny how everyone wants to talk about the cities the teams are from Seriosuly Oakland has thugs and KC has real Gangsters the kind that wear suits and ties but the truth is none of that matters because these are football teams. CHIEFS WILL win ! Why ? Because the Raiders are a fluke I like Mcfadden but he will have great stats but never go anywhere because Al Davis is the crypt keeper and the raiders play like a bad episode from Tales from the crypt make you think things are good then BAM horrible ending !

by bigpoppachief on Nov 4, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Um...doesn't this
make you think things are good then BAM horrible ending

apply to the Chiefs more aptly than the Raiders? Aren’t the Chiefs on the verge of breaking the consecutive playoff loss record? If you fear these kinds of things, then hope for a loss Sunday and a few more, before your fluke of a team gets exposed in these playoffs.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have to get to the playoffs to deserve an honor like that :)

How many years in a row have we beat Oakland in Oakland?

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

When was the last time the Chiefs were in a Super Bowl?

Oh and I’d prefer to wait until Monday to answer your question ;)

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're welcome for the QB

I guess Carl thought Elvis was the answer.

Matt Damon.....

by BJ Kissel on Nov 4, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he did throw a pretty ball

It’s funny, because Elvis is much more an Al Davis type of guy than Gannon ever was. Gruden is one persuasive son of a bitch. It’s not much different than the two QBs now. Grad also happens to be a Gruden QB.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chiefs - Raiders (or Raiders - Chiefs depending upon your loyalty)

As a fan of this rivaly since 1967 (yeah i’m an old fart) all of the smack talk leading up to this game is meaningless. When both the Raiders and Chiefs are doing well, throw away the records, throw away the stats. This game is about one thing…….WHO WANTS IT MORE! As a Chiefs fan who now lives in So Cal, I am, as my nome de plume suggests, literally surrounded by raiders fans. This is the best week of the year. I know we both want nothing more than to win this game. The sports bar I haunt will have about 25 raiders fans and 1 – 3 Chiefs fans. I’ll be right their yelling like crazy for my Chiefs, as will the Raiders fans. It’s been a while since this game has had the meaning it deserves and I am just PUMPED for this game…..THE GREATEST RIVALY IN THE NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A good memory is no substitute for the playbook rookie!

by Franksurroundedbyraiderfans on Nov 4, 2010 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I hear ya Frank

And agree, Raiders/Chiefs, greatest rivalry in All of the NFL!!!
And you’re right it doesn’t matter about records or stats when we play, it’s always a tough fought game between us.
We’re both of the same coin, just different sides, and you’re pumped about this game as I am, but, what If, we meet in the season finale with winner takes AFC West??? Gives me goose bumps thinking about it, and think it would be the best game of the year, an probably better than any super bowl to date!
2 young teams on the rise, and yes throw the stats out on this one, but injuries and other early on may have helped us, the Raider D I think is gaining ground and gelling as a unit as is the Offense though perhaps still a tad off. But I do think the Raiders are more solid in their play, again a young team learning and appear to be on the right track, this game will tell the tell for the Raiders, as well as for K.C. and maybe that season ending game scenario isn’t that far fetched, even though we have some other tough games coming up.
One prediction, Cassel won’t have a great day, just my thought’s, not predicting a game winner though, too close to call, as is every game we meet.
Respect to you Frank, you’re not a mud slinger, you recognize with the respect I do, we really don’t have to trash talk, we both know when we take the field together, it’s game on.
But I love it’s all there, for that’s what makes our rivalry so special, and the best there is !!!

by Kevin Coffman on Nov 4, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're gonna go retro on the Queefs

I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
-Jack Tatum

by DarksideJU08 on Nov 4, 2010 2:07 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Great pic! I loved Wheatley

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by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, it's JaMarcus...I am melting!

Hahaha I actually like seeing this during Chiefs week, because it reminds me that we cut our overpaid QB.

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by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish

I were skilled enough to photoshop some drank in his hand…

by Chief Balls on Nov 4, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or

How about putting him in a Redskins uniform?

by rightnasty on Nov 4, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

cool pics

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by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey how about fuck you?

j/k’ing your my best friend,not really,but you do follow me around and comment on everything I do. Do you love to hate me or what….what’s your deep underlying issue?

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Talking shit for me posting

Raiders pics on a Raider site? That makes perfect sense…..Maybe you just have an asshole of the mouth malfunction?Really though I don’t care about you enough to have a problem w/ you. I said you shouldn’t call women bitches and then you start following me around talking shit…BRAVO

by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chief's Embarassing Defeat

The Chiefs will leave Oakland very embarassed and beat up on Sunday. Their failure will be so overwhelming they probably won’t win another game all year. The Raiders are back as the big bad bullies of the NFL. Don’t feel too discouraged little Chiefy fans, the Raiders can destroy any NFL team right now. You just won’t be the same after Sunday. I love it.

by RWE on Nov 4, 2010 11:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Crazy what back-to-back wins does to you Raider fans

But you’ll soon find out that it’s a pretty flimsy place to hang your hat. Congrats on the black-out extension too, btw. Raider Nation! HA! The tickets are 2-for-1, too! Now that’s embarrassing.

by Chief Balls on Nov 5, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Embarrassing is

Well, church is over. Should I sit here and stare blankly over miles of flat land while I BBQ my oatmeal or go to the Chiefs game?

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

BBQ Oatmeal kicks ass, bro

Don’t knock it til you’ve tried it.

by Chief Balls on Nov 5, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha...I deep fry mine

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by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Raiders v. Chiefs

Too much trashtalk, get real. Been a Raiders fan since the 70’s. Senn enough bad years for a lifetime. Sunday 11/7 Raiders 42 Chiefs 17

by Kim Smith on Nov 4, 2010 11:51 PM PDT reply actions  

LMAO

give me what you’re smoking. Must be some good shit!

by Smoothkaos on Nov 6, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chiefs Game

Really looking forward to going to the game this Sunday. Watched the History of the Raiders DVD focusing on the section covering the Raiders-Chiefs hatred for each other. It was a reminder of my hatred of all things red and from Kansas City.

by jwmatne on Nov 5, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I recall when I was a little kid...

…and the Chiefs lost to the Raiders I would go to my room and wail like a baby. That would just wound me to my heart, it was like all goodness and justice had left the world.

…then came the 90’s…ahhh but it was sweet. Bless you Marty…

…and years later I will never forget or forgive Gruden dancing onto the field at Arrowhead when the Raiders knocked the Chiefs out of the playoffs…

by FrankPitts on Nov 5, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Beating u in that game made me so happy because we played spoiler

In which led to the turn around in our team. Come Sunday same thing will happen beating you guys. It will put us up 3-0 in the division in favor of the winning the division, and we head into a bye week.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Nov 5, 2010 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still have nightmares of James Hasty returning an INT for a TD

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yes i remember that game

was it Hostetler the QB?

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Nov 5, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was and the fucking ref had the ball bounce of his back right into Hasty's arms and ran it back in OT.

& you all thought the tuck rule was BS.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Nov 5, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Raiders were really cursed in Arrowehead that decade

that play sums it all up. Even though Hasty went on to be a Raider, I still can’t feel anything but negativity when I hear his name.

Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.

by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

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