Apologize. Four Fruckings on one drive and why the NFL needs to change the challange rules.
I want an apology form the NFL for attempting to steal the game from the Raiders.They didn't succeed, but I am still butt-hurt over the attempt. Call it a type of attempted battery if you will.
I also want them to seriously consider changing the challenge rules.
The Chiefs first TD drive was an epic example of how bad ref calls change games. Something needs to be done. I have some possible solutions.
On the Cheifs first TD drive:
1.a probable, bad pass interference penalty for them to even get around the red zone. We had some questionable ones called against the Chiefs later in the game and nothing can be done about them. this was the least offensive thing the refs did this drive. I didn't like it, but Chiefs fans could probably tell you why it was a good call with a strait face.
2. we have to waste our first challenge on a bogus TD when he was down and did not score a TD. Refs screwed up, we paid for it by using one challenge.
3. we correctly challenge the passing TD, where both his knee and foot are out of bounds, and not only do the refs still call it a TD, it means we can't get another challenge for the inevitable screw job they have in store for us.
I can not see, in any way, how with both his knee going out of bounds and his second foot going out of bounds how anyone could call it a TD. especially with the BS non TD call that Foster caught today and Calvin Johnson had in the beginning of the season. There is no way Chief fans can say this was a good call with a strait face.
4. the refs screw us and call a fumble, we cant challenge because they already screwed us twice the last TD. Think about it, because they screwed us twice, they get to do it again, therefore adding the fourth screw job from the same drive. refs screw up, they then screw it up again and still award a TD and using our last challange.
the refs do four fruckings in one drive. I say Fruck the Frucking Fruckers.
I propose one of three new challenge rules: currently a team gets two challenges. If they are right on both they get a third challenge.
1. Unlimited Booth review on TD's and Turnovers
they may need to change the challenge rules so that turnovers and TD's have unlimited booth review. lets get these types of calls right every time possible. I can watch 10 more minutes of a football game if they get it right. turnovers or TD''s only. Teams would still have to use there challenges when the booth ref isnt looking or too slow to stop play which still happens too often. No more hurry up and get the next play off so the bad call stands.
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2. Add two minor challenges for non-Td and turnover plays.
If you don't like every TD or turnover subject to booth review because of time/game strategy considerations,
Still have two Major challenges be possible on TD's and Turnovers by each team, with a third if you get them right.
in addition, two minor challenges to be used for anything else and not subject to the major challenge.. Four reviews possible but two of them are minor challenges. You use up your minor challenges on first down plays etc, to bad, but not so bad that you can't still get crucial calls later in the game right.
(remember it would only be reviewed if it was possible it was a bad call, so most TD's would not be reviewed but a lot of fumbling/sack turnovers probably would). This new rule is probably the most confusing and hardest to think out, but in theory it would make sure that more important plays (Td's and TO's) get reviewed.
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3. successful challenges gain another challenge no matter when
same rule as now, two challenges but if you are successful on a challenge, first or second, you get another (third) one. In addition, If you are still successful on your third, you get a fourth and so on.
in theory, this would make them unlimited. your right on the first or second challenge, you get a third. Your right on the third, you get a fourth, etc, etc.
Dose not matter if its the first one or the second one, the refs screwed it up, why should the team be penalized a challenge for being right? if your right and the refs are wrong, you should get to challenge and challenge and challenge some more. Now even when your coach thinks your right, the announcers think your right, you think your right, the replay ref seems to get it wrong or not indisputable about 1/4 of the time. So there still will be bad calls, just not as many.
Now these new rules would have not helped us on the first TD, the refs were going to make sure KC scored a TD but it would have allowed the raiders or the booth to make sure the fumble was called correctly.
Does anyone knows what channel and day Mike Pererra? the NFL head ref goes over bad calls? Yes the Raiders won. I am so, so happy about that. I just don't like the feeling that our team is so marked for bad calls. Just because I'm admit-tingly paranoid does not mean they are not out to get them.
I so don't miss the days of the refs getting things wrong and having no recourse at all before they had replay and I doubt ill will miss it if they give teams or refs more tools to get it right. . I want more accountability. More fairness. More challenges. This rule would probably help the Raiders, out of all teams, the most for obvious reasons, but it is still time for a change.
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The 3rd option with the potentially unlimited challenges looks plausible
But that Tucker TD was legitimate. His knee was down in bounds and he was able to drag his foot in bounds before he went out of bounds. As much as I fucking hate the Chiefs, that was a TD….but the Moeki TD was rightfully called back tho.
The refs sucked today
It did go both ways though. They made bad call left and right and held up the game. There was a penalty on every damn play. They need to be able to review penalties I think that would help. There was no excuse for how bad the refs called that game today. Congratulations on the W today you guys fought hard. You must be proud of your team because I’m disgraced about mine lol. On a serious note though you guys played your hearts out and never gave up and won a big game at home with your backs on the wall at moments. You have a tough road ahead and playoffs will be hard to reach. You on the other hand may have derailed the Chiefs and now I see an L next week and 7-9 being very likely. I hope the Chargers don’t rally and make it. I hate them so much it hurts.
KC,I like your STYLE !!!
You’re a straight shooter, like me !!! It is, what it is !!! No matter how much you might not like the outcome !!! It is, what it is !!! A good damn game, with bs on both sides, far as calls !!!! But I told you, they was going to shut down the run, except when Cassell, of all people ran the ball !! OMG, i know he’s a good athlete , but damnit, hit his AZZ !!!!
Bottom line, and I really never, ever thought I would be saying this but, Handle your business KC, And the Raiders handle theirs, and we’ll see you in Dec., and hopefully the playoffs, for I’d rather see you get there before those shits in Den., or S.D. !!!!
Agreed thanks
I am surprised you stopped the run but giving Charles 10 damn carries might be a good reason. When I saw him get up slow my heart stopped. This team is another 4-12 w/o Charles he is so important. Charles avg 5.5 ypc and got ten carries I think? The Jones avg 1.7 and gets 20 carries? Where is the fucking decision to play the hot hand. Half of every game we have a pro-bowl maybe hall of fame rb sitting on our bench. That is enough for me to dislike the coaching staff.The Chiefs are not good enough to bench stars like him. It’s like the Raiders benching Mcfadden to play Bush all game it doesn’t make sense. I’m tired of Chiefs fans saying it keeps him fresh and Jones is wonderful. That’s all great but Charles proved last year he could take a chunk of carries a game. I would like Thomas Jones cut and Jackie Battle promoted to no.2 and the damn ball given to Charles please? I think Weis has sex w/ Thomas Jones in his hover round scooter because the man love is too much Charles is clearly better. That is a long enough rant from me
I like the third option.
They actually tried a similar system in cricket last year (don’t joke) where each team were allowed two incorrect challenges per game – if they got all of them right they could keep on going. A similar system could work.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Yeah, that's how I voted !!
But Screw, that would be to much like, being logical !!!!
The play to where Miller Lite was clearly down yet we still lost the ball was just dumb. It shouldn’t be the fucking coaches job to ref the game. Challenges or not, that play needs to be reviewed. Btw, the same exact thing happend to another team last night, I just can’t remember which one it was.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
the refs really went above and beyond on that one
not only wasn’t it a fumble, but WE FUCKING RECOVERED THE BALL!!!
that ref (triplett?) looks like an inept homeroom teacher who the kids run wild on – he’s always been terrible
Fines for hits, why not fines for blown calls?
The only people absolved of any guilt and responsibility are the refs. That should stop. Theyre culpable for the poor officiating just as the players are accountable for the hits/unsportsmanlike conduct calls. Fine their asses. The penalties were pretty evenly distributed but on closer inspection, they really hurt the Raiders as stated by the blog author that WE had to do their officiating for them and lost our challenges. They hurt Oakland most on Nick Miller’s called fumble. Giving them a 20 yard field after playing as punk as they did? Bullshit. Start fining them hard and see how many games they blow.
Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...
Agree, the Referees need to be accountable. The calls are too often atrocious and ruin games. These officials should be
in the background and only throw the flag when they are certain – “when in doubt, do nothing.”
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 12, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
No shit...
Like those ball-less fucks who dropped the ball on the’ immaculate deception.’
Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...
by Villapiano41 on Nov 13, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions

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