Raiders Prove That "Nuance" is a "Nuisance" As Playoff Hope Take A Huge Hit
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 1:58 PM PST
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PrintSmashmouth and Blather can only get you so far in the NFL, just ask Mike Singletary and now Tom Cable. If you team does not execute a two minute drill properly, play well on Special Teams, run precise routes and make the proper coaching decisions you have no place being in the Playoffs. Unfortunately, all of these were on display today as Jason Campbell and Darren McFadden did their best to try and overcome the folly that can become Oakland Raider football.
The game came to a close with the Raiders at the Jacksonville 40 yard line and not even taking a shot at the end zone. Jason Campbell was pressured and threw the ball to Jacoby Ford on the left hashmarks with no timeouts left. Good teams try and get that ball into the end zone for a 10% chance of tying the game. Unfortunately, this "Nuance" is lost on this team.
Special teams did the Raiders no favors today as Jacoby Ford fumbled a ball that set up a touchdown and then Oakland allowed a 65 yard return with a 1:40 left in a tie ball game. Most teams that recognize "Nuances" will squib the ball down and avoid a big return. Not the Raiders, they kicked it away and paid the price.
Unfortunately some drives were killed by a receiver falling down or not being able to live up to their billings as receivers. This went for the entire unit. Ford dropped a first down catch, Murphy dropped one and then fell down on a route that would have produced a first down and Darius Heyward-Bey let a bomb slip right through his fingers on the final drive that would have set up a 1st and 10 from the Jacksonville 30 with over a minute to play.
Then there were the coaching decisions that were absolutely "Dunderhead-ish". The first of which was challenging a questionable call as your second challenge. Cable chose to challenge whether or not the Jacksonville runner was out of bounds on a "Devlish" 70 yard run. he lost the challenge, as he should have, and then was not able to challenge a touchdown where it appeared that the Jacksonville receiver was not in bounds. Then there was the call to go for it on 4th and 3 from the 30 yard line with the fresh off of the bench back-up qb, Kyle Boller, instead of letting the highest paid kicker in the NFL, with the longest leg attempt a kick from inside the 50 yard line. There was also the acceptance of a penalty that made it 2nd and 18 instead of 3rd and 10 from the Oakland 49 for Jacksonville. I know that some coaches have a list that let's them know when to accept penalties and not. I didn't need a list to tell me that you limit the ability for the Jags to make plays by limiting the downs. The next play went for a TD.
These are the "Nuances" that will haunt this team until they play more disciplined and actually get a head coach that is a good game manager. Until then, the two minute offense, game management and when to use a challenge will remain a nuisance to the silver and black.
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We really need another good corner next year
The coaches don’t trust Ware or McFadden (both were inactive today) and watching Huff trying to cover people is just painful.
We’re almost a playoff a team, in my mind we just need:
- A good CB
- LB Depth. Groves and Ricky Brown are terrible
- A new Right Tackle and a Center. Walker and Satele are done. I’d say Right Guard too but we gotta give Bruce Campbell a chance.
- DE depth. Houston and Shaughnessy are playing too much
I don’t think we need a vetereran WR and a new QB like everyone else here seems to think. We just need depth and a few new starters
I'll add a blocking TE too
I don’t wanna see Barnes there anymore, he’s good on goal line situation, but playing him so much at TE is also sad to watch.
by RememberDurazo on Dec 12, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
We need a starter quality olb opposite of wimbley , we need a new line from center to RT, if B. campbell was any were close to being ready i think he would be starting, i mean we got a rookie starting at LT. waker can play guard, hes better their than at tackle.We got DE depth, But 2 of or DEs are injured (scott and moss). We need a veteran WR a veteran receiver would help the young guys alot
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. CB. LB pickup would help so Death Ro doesnt have the bulk of the work and Oline help. The left side is the one I keep hearing is the weak side since our stud Rookie is helping the run on the right. DE depth would be help too so we can switch it up and maybe bring in and extra DE on some plays. Im liking Houston more and more.
A new QB. No not yet. but if we can draft one in a yr or two that looks like a legit Franchise QB. I dont see why not. Campbell is a step above anything we’ve had since Kerry Collins. Definitely need a vet WR to catch the ball. Dump JLH and Chaz since all they seem to know how to do is get hurt. Id rather give Murphy and Ford a shot since they actually stay on the field and put in the effort to catch a ball.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think he touched that last ball with either hand
Don’t even know how that was possible
Give up 31 in the second half = don’t belong in the playoffs
But we still do have a chance tho, haha
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 2:10 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah..I wonder what people tell him
if they see him on the street.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hold up.
I’m not squibbing a ball at 1:55, with three timeouts left. Yes, we were gashed. But, it was a good call.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions
1:40 I mean.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Only 1 TO left at that point
Bad Challenge + 4th down Boller play.
Should’ve had Jano put through back of Endzone. This is why you have wind at back for 4th quarter.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 12, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
You need to elimiante a deep return.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
But it gives too much time
on the clock for the Jags to get inside of the 30 and kick the winning FG.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
agreed. to kick away was the right decision i tihnk
by John Park Williams on Dec 12, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
The put it in the endzone or out of it. Janocowski had the wind at his back hand made it to just the 5.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 12, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
sorry for the jibberish. Jano and the rest of the STs let us down
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 12, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
I agree. I don't know what the swirling winds were doing, but kick the ball out of the endzone
I wouldve been pissed had they squibbed and Jax started at 40 or so.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 12, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Kick was into the wind
Wind was out of the SW, kickoff went north to south. Jano’s big kick that went through the endzone was going the other way in the 3rd quarter.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
And in the 4th, with a gail at his back?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions
Dude I was at the game
In the 4th quarter they were kicking from north to south. The wind was blowing from south to north. Whatever wind was going south was hitting the scoreboard and going back. The last kickoff that went for the 65 yard return was into the wind.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Good. and thank you for supporting faith in Jano
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
... we have enough problems on the kickoff ST as it is
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions
What are we arguing about?
I’m not trying to defend the special teams – they were pretty bad yesterday.
You are criticizing Jano’s kick based on the assumption that he was kicking with the wind. I was only trying to correct your assumption.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I wasn't being sarcastc. I'm glad Jano didn't choke; the fewer chokers the better.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
The point is, we TIED the game.
The Defense lost it allowing that run, and the special teams for that long kickoff return. With all that happened, the final Jags drive did it.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:13 PM PST reply actions
Mostly special teams...
I think they let MJD walk it in on purpose to give us the ball back with time still left rather than let them eat the clock and kick a field goal to win with no time left.
Not the call I’d have made as they were looking at 47 yard FG into the wind at the start of the drive, but …
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
At the 5
I see letting a team score. But when your run D plays well in spurts, the wind is kicking up like crazy, and you’re on the 30 yard line there is no way you let someone score.
I agree
but it sure looked like they let him walk it in …
A run was only like a 99.9% possibility at that point, and I don’t think we even laid a mitt on the guy. Pretty ridiculous in either case.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 13, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Who was the DT just standing there on that play looking to his left? The hole DMJ ran through was gaping and
whoever that DT is let it happen like it was intended.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Downgrading from McClain to Brown is a massive downgrade. I knew the Raiders would have a tough time covering the TE’s in this game but getting stomped by the Jags run game is unaccpetable, they knew it was coming and still couldn’t stop it. The defence overall was overall porous and couldn’t make a play.
The Jacoby Ford TO was to turning point of the game.
Run DMC had another fantastic game and was the only reason this game was close.
Ro's absence was the difference, no question in my mind
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 12, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
The Jags felt the same way
with our SS missing. He’s been our best tackler this season, and we were missing him badly today.
Agreed.
Brown just doesn’t cut it as a Mike Backer.
by the red guy on Dec 13, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
exciting game
playoff hopes are done but I am proud of this team this season they have taken a huge step forward and sweeping the Chargers was great….damn special teams at the end….I think they did a good job letting Jones-Drew score though on that first play otherwise they would of ran the clock down and given us no chance on offense…Go Silver and Black!
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
Agreed
We’ve made huge leaps this year, it just needs to carry over.
One of the reason I know we’re better is that the losses actually hurt,instead of just being “Well that’s the raiders for you.”
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
exactly
we are competing and staying in games and starting to get feared again
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
by TuLoRocks2008 on Dec 12, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Bolts are about to put up another 7 here ...
Queefs are getting their ass handed to them.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 12, 2010 2:20 PM PST reply actions
Wow ... unbelievably bad result on replay of Floyd TD
Shouldn’t have been a TD by any stretch. Oh well, I’ll take it.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 12, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions
going for it on 4th down there was not a bad decision
but if you know your going for it on 4th down, then you MUST run the ball on 3rd and 3, thereby setting up a 4th and very short. Instead, they ran a 7 yard slant pattern on 3rd down to Murphy (I think) but Boller overthrew him badly.
Also, do not waste a timeout on 4th down. They were so indecisive that they couldn’t get the play in on time.
by John Park Williams on Dec 12, 2010 2:32 PM PST reply actions
thats why you dont ask a bench warmer to throw the first play he is in
or waste a timeout and just kick the FG that Jano more than likely could make.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
another loss, but in roughly the same position as before
We need to win out, and look for favours from other teams. One thing though. Remember the start of the season? Not sure too many of us thought we’d be pushing for a playoff spot at all, let alone this late. I think when the dust settles on this season, we’ll all get to realise just how much better we are this year compared to those previous. Anyway, that’s me done being reasonable for now.
Kick their ass and take their stuff!
by AllyRdr on Dec 12, 2010 2:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
i sure as hell wasnt expecting an unblemished record vs the division but ill take it.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Cardinals just pulled off a sick fake FG
against Donks … ran it in for TD.
Highlight reel for sure.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 12, 2010 2:41 PM PST reply actions
When I look at the Offense, it's a couple of things as to why we're 6-7.
1) It’s not that the WRs are not good. It’s that They’re YOUNG. VERY YOUNG. DHB – 2nd year. Murphy: 2nd Year. Schilens – 3rd Year. Ford: ROOKIE.
Of course they’re not going to be that reliable. However, If anybody needs addressing, it’s DHB. He needs to get some better coaching, and stop running just hitch routes in practice.
2) Man to man. In order to play man to Man, you have to be consistent EVERY SINGLE GAME. And with Rotation, not everyone is good. Nnamdi is great, because he brings it EVERY GAME. For others, It’s hard. We have depth at corner….just that we need another MAN Corner.\
3) Injuries. We lost this game, especially due to McClain being out. Injuries hurt.
Now, factor in the bad decisions and what not.
The thing about this game is, we have to see what happens NEXT WEEK. Because there is one thing we’re forgetting 6-10 is still a Double-digit Loss season. We ain’t over the hump yet. But at least we’re kicking and Screaming. The only thing I home is that Tom during the post and off-season analyzes HIMSELF. That’s the best thing he can do. I want his ass to stay; another coaching change would put us back in that hole.
For sure though, we do need a Veteran WR; a Posession WR, that can teach how to use the hands. We need Two corners. Two. That way, we can actually have CONSISTENT Man coverage. a QB? Campbell played his ASS off today. We need another better Backup, THAT is for sure. Depth at other positions, yeah. But overall, there are some that can be cut, and we can draft as well. I have a feeling that we can build a real team for next year.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:43 PM PST reply actions
"-" is beyond hope I am afraid to say
If youre at this stage of your career and still have not developed the basic motor skills of putting your hands where you need to to catch a ball – you never will
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 2:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The worst thing we can do is Cut him.
Say what you want; If he goes to another team, changes scenarios, and develops Okay hands, then WE look stupid.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
He will never develope hands. Seriously, those catches he made today were with his torso. I think he suffers from either
debilitating eyesight or lack of guts.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 12, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Or butter fingers.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
DHB is beyond hope.
And it has nothing to do with youth. The other guys are making some plays. DHB sucks. A Wr’s primary function is to “catch” balls and he can’t do it. That was the knock on him before he was drafted and he has absolutely lived up to that billing. He is a phenomenal track star, but he is not a wide receiver.
by TexasRaider20 on Dec 12, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
If we do Cut the 'dead weight', or Trade him,
Then we need to make sure we get a Posession receiver. But, paying somebody a lot of money, And them not performing, and cutting bait…well, we could do it again. However, we just have to make sure it does not become a habit. The Vikings had Troy Williamson, 1st round pick, for about 3 years before cutting him.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
cut DHB and use the money on getting Larry Fitz. somebody they should have drafted instead of R. Gallery. Yes hes a decent OL but I would rather have Larry anyday. Guy makes plays.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Time out.
Let’s be real for a second. 1) Is Larry a FA? I don’t know. 2) Fitzgerald is not going to leave the Cardinals. Just as Holmes will not leave the Jets, and Miles with the Cowboys. Before trying to target somebody that it will be hell to get, Why not get somebody that actually might want to play for us. Because of the dark cloud – even when there wasn’t a dark cloud over us, people still had some thoughts about us.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Fitzgerald doesnt want to be with the cardinals because they suck, no run game, no qb , no defense, he wants to go to a team with a good QB we need to atleast make a play for him
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
larry’s a FA after 2011. not sure if they meant after this season or next, but either way I would rather make an obvious move after him than to simply let the bigger teams. Yes common sense would say he chooses the best QB out there. Brady, but who knows he might be interested in the direction the Nation is going and chose otherwise. He wants a legit QB. Arizona is not making the moves ie showing him that they are serious about getting him a good QB, so why would he stay on that team? Loyalty?..doubt it.
Yes there is a dark cloud on the Nation, but there are plenty of players that would love to wear the colors. Only problem is that after nearly a decade of horrible decisions by the man upstairs the organization is considered toxic. Change the environment and you’ll see the players start to show interest again. But at the same time, with this logic then who would you say is actually out there saying or showing that they want to play for the Silver and Black right now?
Richard Seymour sure as hell didnt.
I for one have had it with ex-jail inmates playing for this team. Plaxico made a stupid move and hasn’t played in a yr. Id offer him a deal maybe, but only after careful evaluation. Hes a gamer, but are you willing to take a risk on a guy who has character issues? I want players like DMAC and Death Ro, who use their head and dont make headlines for stupid moves off the field.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
we wouldnt be able to afford fitz if he cut dhb, we would still owe dhb alot of money
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
I would have cut "-" in the preseason to avoid the cap penalty.
So you owe some money, big deal. Consider it money well spent by getting rid of dead weight. The team has enough fast guys with Murphy and Ford already. They need another possession receiver and there should be several big possession receivers in the draft’s mid rounds or in free agency. Darren McFadden’s new nickname should be Baddy McBadass and Hey-Bey’s should be Shitty McShittywannabeNFLwidereceiverwhoreallyisnotbutgotluckybecauseAllovesfastguys.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Dump DHB and pickup Larry Fitzgerald
no matter the cost, just that one move right there makes us 100 times better.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
I guess it's two moves really
and while I’m at it, let’s get the fuck rid of JLH… So, three moves.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
agree. as a punt returner he generates nothing and as a WR he's unrealiable in traffic
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure,
but DHBs new nickname is too long to catch on. How ’bout Shitty McShittywannabeNFLwideoutwhoreallyisntbutgotluckybecauseAllovesfastguys
by the red guy on Dec 13, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I guess I'll stick with "-" until he is cut or traded.
After that I don’t think he’s worth a nickname once he leaves the team.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Somebody said it already
“A Wr’s primary function is to "catch" balls” by TexasRaider20
Our Wrs this yr are unreliable. Yes they had big games here and there, but they are not consistent in making the catch. I dont care if the play goes for a yd. Catch the damn ball. Ford, Murphy and DHB all had drops that wouldve moved the ball. Its time to dump Chaz “I dont do anything”, JLH “I dont do anything either” and let the rest of them know they better step up and make the grab or its time to get a new job. If they want to keep DHB use him as a corner, his size should be enough to cover at least one guy. If he has all this supposed speed then hed have no problem keeping up with anyone.
2. Man to man is not going to cut it. We have the personnel but we can be much more aggressive with our schemes. Quit simplifying the D and making us one dimensional. The pressure has been there in the front all yr. Thats why they lead the league in sacks, but there needs to be more zone, zone blitzes. The more you switch it up the harder itll be to do anything vs this D. Death Ro is a valuable LB no doubt. Not yet a game changer, but he is a step up from Morrison. The story on him is he learns fast and is a leader. Im sure hell get better with time.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
But, With all the cutting,
Who do we replace them with? Cutting DHB, JLH, and Chaz, leaves us with Ford, Murphy, and Nick Miller. Now, I believe we still need to Work with Chaz. But I think JLH is a Free Agent (might be wrong), and DHB might need to be cut. However, we have to replace these guys. And Unless your name is Burress, I do not expect any big name receivers to go to Oakland.
And…we’re….not the Jets. We blitzed a good amount in the Miami Game, and the SD game. I don’t know about this game, but we had them stopped until the 3rd quarter. Look at the Jets right now; they got their asses whipped by NE, and MIA’s gonna end up with a win if this continues.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
we keep all of our receivers except JLH and maybe Miller, sign fitzgerald or vincient jackson
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
The best we can go after,
Is Vincent Jackson, Plaxico Burress (from jail), Malcolm Floyd, Jacoby Jones, or Braylon Edwards. The thing is, Ford and Murphy will get playing time. So, if You can get 1 receiver to be the main, like Jackson or Burress, get another to be a #3 (Floyd, Burress, Jacoby Jones), and a Rotation Receiver (Jacoby Jones, Early Doucet, Naanee, Hank Baskett, and Brad Smith), THEN, we have a WR core.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
i just think we need a #1. we have Murphy,Ford,Schillens,and DHB, get rid of the rest and get a experienced #1, get someone that can help DHB learn how to catch, like Fitgerald or Jackson
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
if you want to keep one out of the bunch then go with DHB, since hes tied up with a large sum of $$ right now. JLH and CHAZ are garbage WRs who are more known for being unable to play, much less catch a damn ball. So its no surprise to read this today from yesterdays post
Wide receiver and punt return specialist Johnnie Lee Higgins has an ankle sprain of undetermined severity that will be re-evaluated Wednesday.
Go after Jackson, Floyd and Fitzgerald. Stay away from Edwards though. Plaxico is worth a shot if he can prove hes committed. Maybe one of them can then help DHB and the rest of the WRs to step their game up and become more consistent the way Seymour has helped the Defense.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Chaz has excellent hands... it's the rest of his body that's a problem. And forget about teaching DHB how to catch
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 14, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
thats why i have him as second to go since JLH is always hurt. but what good is Chaz if hes never on the field as well. It sucks he’s hurt, but what good is it if hes taking up a roster spot for no productivity. I only mentioned DHB getting taught to catch since it was mentioned they have a lot of $$ invested in him and it didnt make sense to cut him. im not defending the guy at all.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 15, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions
i think DHB needs a mentor, a veteran guy that can help him with his game
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I do as well.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
I think DHB needs Stickum
Lots and lots of Stickum. Maybe roofing tar.
by the red guy on Dec 13, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
If he used his hands to catch it might work
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Stickum or tar could be applied to his jersey as well.
But if you used enough to make him catch a ball it might be a little tough to avoid a holding call if he blocks somebody.
by the red guy on Dec 16, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
He isn't a bad decoy; add a plume feather and he's perfect
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Look at the Jag receivers
All of them are young. Your receivers need to step big time this offseason.
I like what
I know about Ford. Murphy is inconsistent, but he can what Washington from Ten used to be when he was with the Steelers. He did a great job blocking downfield. Take a look at the early DMC TD’s
DHB needs to develop soon. He’s got the ability. I know he does. Just needs to do it before he runs out of chances.
Chaz is good, but you gotta stay healthy.
What an exciting and great game
You should be absolutely proud of this team. I think it is cleary on the rise. Darren McFadden is the beast, and even Campbell had an outstanding game.
I wish you just the best for you guys! I hope you win the last 3 games (that means you steal a W from the Colts; which would be awesome).
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 12, 2010 2:56 PM PST reply actions
Guys, I'm just curious about something..
Do you guys think Tom Cable called for the Raiders to lay down and allow MJD to score the game-winning touchdown, in hopes of getting the ball back with a chance to tie? Or was it just awful defense?
I’m wondering if anyone has a link to where he might have said one way or the other.
I've got nothing.
That is the last thing we need to contemplate.
Just thinking that causes a huge problems.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Watched the Play again.
Ricky Brown Bit on the right, Jones Drew Cut it to the left, through the hole because of Seymour’s Double team.
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by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 12, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I still believe they laid down.
And it’s really not that bad of a play.
The percentages are higher that the Raiders score a touchdown, with 90 seconds left and one timeout, as opposed to Jacksonville missing a chip shot field goal.
The only people that are angry about it is the people that bet the Raiders +3.5.
I've got nothing.
from what I've seen of it
It looked like the safety (Stevie Brown) was in a position to get in that hole and stuff it, but stalled and ended up failing to make the tackle.
Kick their ass and take their stuff!
by AllyRdr on Dec 12, 2010 3:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I couldnt agree more
Then there were the coaching decisions that were absolutely “Dunderhead-ish”. The first of which was challenging a questionable call as your second challenge. Cable chose to challenge whether or not the Jacksonville runner was out of bounds on a “Devlish” 70 yard run. he lost the challenge, as he should have, and then was not able to challenge a touchdown where it appeared that the Jacksonville receiver was not in bounds. Then there was the call to go for it on 4th and 3 from the 30 yard line with the fresh off of the bench back-up qb, Kyle Boller, instead of letting the highest paid kicker in the NFL, with the longest leg attempt a kick from inside the 50 yard line. There was also the acceptance of a penalty that made it 2nd and 18 instead of 3rd and 10 from the Oakland 49 for Jacksonville. I know that some coaches have a list that let’s them know when to accept penalties and not. I didn’t need a list to tell me that you limit the ability for the Jags to make plays by limiting the downs. The next play went for a TD
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions
This week is gonna suck.
Huff looked soooooo bad today. Mitchell apologized after the game and he didn’t play a bad game. I’d like to see him take a leadership role and rip Huff a new one!
by $73.27 on Dec 12, 2010 3:13 PM PST via mobile reply actions
you can see his frustration on the second TD that Huff gave up mitchell put his hands on his hips out of frustration that him and branch had their man covered but Huff gave up the play.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 12, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
I went to school with Rashad Jennings and watched him play a couple of years at Liberty.
and this is the first time i was not cheering for him, or when he scored!
Who is Cable listening too?
The two touchdowns for Jacksonville in the second half one that was challenged and one that should have been. I don’t disagree with the challenge on the sideline on the long touchdown run, even though I could clearly see that he didn’t step out of bounds. Cable threw the challenge flag from what he was told from “upstairs”. I believe because he loss that challenge was the reason he did not challenge the touchdown pass in the end zone where the receivers toes where clearly on the sideline chalk. That play deserved a challenge for two reasons. One that touchdown put Jacksonville ahead and it was a third down play, an over turn there would have meant 4th down and most likely a field goal. So in that a more crucial touchdown Cable or upstairs or both lost their nuts! Raiders would have won the game if McClain was in the line up!
I think one factor in deciding not to challenge the td catch
Was that he didn’t have any challenges left and couldn’t
Just a hunch
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 4:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
oh yeah raiders wouldve won because of one mediocre linebacker
yeah right raiders lost because plain and simple the jaguars are the better time, theyre surging and the raiders just dont match their talent at all. You guys thought you were gonna stop our run game but guess what: 234 yards. Youre a good team dont get me wrong but you were supposed to lose this game so you should be happy you were even in it.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 12, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Harveyismyboy...reality. Reality...harveyismyboy
they don’t match the talent at all? Come on, you’re better than that. This game was tied with under 2 minutes to go. If they played ten times, 5 home and away are you telling me you saw enough to suggest the Jags would dominate. There was no statement made in this one as to a plain and simple better team in that game. They looked pretty evenly matched to me.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 12, 2010 11:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude the Raiders dopped 31 on you, LMAO. You'll smell the playoffs then get booted.
Your boy harvey may get booted also next year so you can follow him around until he goes to Detroit.
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Hey Raiders
Just wanted to congratulate you on a great game. This is easily the game of the week. I actually thought your team was well coached and very well prepared. The Raider D was practically in our huddle the 1st half and I really thought you guys were going to win. And McFadden was sick today – he killed us. Second half was wild and crazy. Game turned on 2 special teams play I think – the kickoff fumble and Deji’s big return late. Too close for comfort.
Good luck the rest of the way.
Congrats on the win. Our D ate a big one in the second half
Horrible showing; we missed Rolando big in that game, but it exposed us for not being a team worthy of playoffs.
Our defense still has two completely different identities. They show up, or they don’t.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
They didn't get a lot of help in the 3rd quarter
The Raiders’ D was on the field for almost all of the 3rd quarter, they just got burned out. Too many bad drives by the Raiders offense.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
no excuse whatsoever.
we out possessed them, got near record yardage the rest of the game, and McFadden lit it up running, catching, and scoring the rest of the game. A few guys got jobbed bigtime, but the front four that was nearly unstoppable in the first half disappeared in the second.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
?????
but the front four that was nearly unstoppable in the first half disappeared in the second.
My point exactly – they disappeared because they were worn down and worn out. Its not an excuse, its a contributing factor.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I don't see it that way
if anything, your guys should’ve been more worn down in the second half, since they got beaten up worse in the first half. Instead, MJD challenged your team, and your team answered the call.
Our defense has had two identities all year long. We continue to lose games we feel we should have won as a result. Most of us agree the big gashes wouldn’t have happened if Rolando played, but he didn’t, so we can’t go there. We got outplayed in the second half.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
But getting tired
is about what happens on the offensive and defensive lines, not the beating Garrard and MJD took. After a while, your DL got tired.
Was it not the same four or five offensive guys, facing our rotation of defensive ones
who emerged rejuvenated in the second half? They came out flat after the halftime break? I thought perhaps our changing the guy’s schedule possibly backfired on us for a moment, as it appeared they’d fallen asleep in the locker room, but fail to see the offense going flat for one quarter contributing to their being worn down. Our defense had better performances in the fourth quarter of games where we possessed the ball closer to 25% of the game overall than over 50%, as we did in yesterday’s game.
I get your point, but don’t agree it was a factor. MJD inspired his players at halftime, and our guys fell asleep.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I don't see the two as mutually exclusive
I think both were contributing factors. I wholeheartedly agree that the Jaguars made the necessary adjustments during halftime and came out inspired in the second half while the Raiders were content to rest on their 10 point lead and didn’t make any changes. Still, the Raiders defense may have been able to withstand MJD’s halftime inspiration if they hadn’t had to endure it for the entire 3rd quarter.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I see us doing a three game winning streak. Pissed that Ro didn't play.
There’s nothing wrong with the guy. The coaches probably thought of precaution but why? this is an important fucking game?!?!?! Unless he got injured during practice… which I doubt..
The RaiderLaker
Unless I'm mistaken, he didn't practice this week.
If you’ve ever had tendonitis, it’s pretty lame.
by the red guy on Dec 13, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
Good news is that we won't see such strong RB play from Denver or Colts. I'm calling a 3 game win streak!
KC is the real game…
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i think we can win the last three too, but our defense and special teams better not play like this again
by RyanTheRaider on Dec 12, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
To be fair
the Jags offense and special teams are pretty good. It’s just sad that no Jag is in the top 5 of fan votes.(Including MJD)
Wow torched the coach on this article LOL
I think the Raiders played great considering. This is the AFC West so I’m not conceding anything just yet. Hats off to the Jags. We had them down and they came back on a long run and a long bomb. Jacoby Ford wishes he had that ball back and I bet the D will have lots of film to watch this week. Hope we stick it to Denver next week. I’ll be rooting for the 49ers and the Rams.
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
that holding penalty they accepted absolutely drove me insane
the game was there for the taking
for me it turned when they had the ball in the 3rd, up 10 with a chance to really take hold of the game, and went 3 and out.
"After this, I'm gonna kick Bob Arum's ass."
-George Lopez
+1000
I thought that was a bad sign that we couldn’t get anything going on the ensuing drive after we held them to a 3 and out with a 10 point lead. Playoff teams jump on teams at that point and don’t let up. Had we gotten a 17 point lead I don’t think Jacksonville could have come back since they would have had to really to heavily on the pass at that point.
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Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Zach looked a bit out of it yesterday, like a man who'd been given a strong shot for pain
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:47 AM PST up reply actions
For the most part I though Zach looked as good as he had in weeks.
I was happy to see the offense look like it got it’s shit together and DMC was a man amongst boys.
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Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
No argument there. Zach caught 4 passes yesterday. Compare that with his past 5 games ...
Zach Miller
Week 7 Receptions 1
" ____8 Receptions 1
“____9 DNP
" _10 Bye
" _11 Receptions 2
“___12 Receptions 1
" ___13 Receptions 1
I don’t expect he’ll be invited to any post-season events.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with you there.
The foot injury has really affected his effectiveness.
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Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Bottom line, we showed we're just not good enough to do anything even if we made a strong bid for playoffs
Better teams can compensate for losing one player better. I also think we should’ve seen Howard in coverage on some TEs. Lots of bad coaching decisions again, but the horrible defense just exposed us for how bad we really are.
We knew we had trouble covering TEs; the complete self-destruction of the defense in the third quarter and beyond was inexcusable.
It shouldn’t have even come down to kicking it away, squibbing, or accepting a penalty. Way too many opportunities left on the field on the offensive side in clutch drops, and the turnovers killed, but had the defense showed up, we’d have won the game as we should have.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
amen. Routt makes the tackle and that long TD run is negated. Huff plays his assignment and that long TD pass to give them the lead is negated. BUT it is not to say Cables stupid decisions dont come into play either, which is why it maddens me to read this:
After the loss to Jacksonville, Cable was asked about play calls made on third-and-three and fourth-and-three when Kyle Boller was temporarily in the game for starter Jason Campbell. Boller threw an incomplete pass and an interception, prompting questions as to why the ball didn’t wind up in the hands of Darren McFadden.
“I don’t know,” Cable said. “That’s not for me to decide right now.”
On Monday, Cable said Jackson’s play selections “were two great calls. We didn’t execute them.”
HOW THE HELL DO YOU NOT KNOW?? DMAC is your best playmaker. on 3rd down he shouldve gotten the ball. On 4th you tell your FRANCHISE player Jano to kick the FG. You dont make the backup bench QB make a play on a crucial down in a tight game (down 7 pts) on the road in a game where you had the lead.
Death Ro’s absence was big on covering TEs I like his speed better than a DE covering, but I can let that go. Routt and Huff are done for me. Id get rid of them as soon as possible. Giving up big plays that fire up the other team and kill your momentum are just detrimental to the work the entire team puts in. JC and DMAC nearly won us the game too bad they couldnt pull it off.
Oakland Raiders Comp Att Yds Pct Y/A Sack YdsL TD Int Rating
Jason Campbell 21 30 324 70.0 10.8 3 21 2 0 127.6
Rush Yds Avg Lng TD FumL
Darren McFadden 16 123 7.7 51 2
with numbers like these there should be no reason for them losing, I only hope these numbers become the norm for them and the horrible play of our secondary, stupid coaching decisions and special teams wont cost us a game again.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
On Monday, Cable said Jackson’s play selections "were two great calls. We didn’t execute them."
true, but i find it hard to believe that as the HC Cable wouldnt question Hue as to why DMAC is not getting the ball on that crucial 3rd dwn. Hue clearly made a bad move by calling a pass from Boller of all people.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 15, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
-1 turnover ratio and 234 rushing yards allowed.
That’s how you lose that game. It doesn’t matter how great the offense played. There are 3 facets of the NFL game and Jacksonville won 2 of them.
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Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
like i said there was two major miscues on D prior to MJDs run that sealed it.
these two plays get negated and the game is drastically different for obvious reasons.
I dont know why some of these guys insist on tackling a back like Jennings or MJD high. hit them low!
Routt makes the tackle and that long TD run is negated. Huff plays his assignment and that long TD pass to give them the lead is negated.
but that long TD pass might also have been avoided had Cable made the call like noontide said:
There was also the acceptance of a penalty that made it 2nd and 18 instead of 3rd and 10 from the Oakland 49 for Jacksonville. I know that some coaches have a list that let’s them know when to accept penalties and not. I didn’t need a list to tell me that you limit the ability for the Jags to make plays by limiting the downs. The next play went for a TD.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 15, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
Raiders were
only a McClain away from winning that game, that, and Ford’s turnover.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
I mean to say
That if McClain had been starting, MJD wouldn’t have made that big TD run.
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haha yeah right. MJD id MJD. you cant stop him. 6 weeks of 100+ yds
by harveyismyboy on Dec 12, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Haha my ass
The only long run he pulled off was right through “B” gap——-Mike linebackers territory. Of course, MJD is ALWAYS Mike linebackers responsibility.
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Ricky Brown is to McClain as Brodie Croyal is to Matt Cassell
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
PC is Ro's weakness, but he's like Nnamdi compared to Ricky "Gila Monster" Brown - who couldn't cover a boiling pot
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
B gap isn't "outside".
Do you even know anything about the game?
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Offense was not bad this game. The defense just couldnt do it's part.
we gave up huge plays that kept the jags in. We tried to keep up, but all was too much in the end.
Mercedes killed us in a way. But the #2 killed us a lot more. Forgot his name, but he broke off big runs, and set up two scores. Garrard was okay.
On our offensive side of the ball, we moved well. I dont have very many complaints, besides a few questionable calls, and some lack of execution.
BUT:
Our defense and special teams ultimately did us in. We need to have synergy on all phases, otherwise, well see losses like this more than a few times. hell…. the jets miami game is a good reason why you will not win with only ONE phase of the game working for you. This happened to both teams, but ultimately, only one had to win.
We can still make the playoffs. Chiefs lost as well. I think we can still make it.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Lloyds takes
I watched bits of quite a few games today and here’s the summary:
There is no way that the bengals or donks are going to knock off a fired up bolt team in the last 2 weeks. Both those teams sucked already and they have both now quit.
we have to rely on our good friends from across the bay to keep our season alive on thursday night. Niners beat the chargers or the chargers run the table. I think I am going to go but I don’t think I own any red clothing
Pat dude send me a red shirt so I can represent
Vila piano I need the name of an sd bail bondsman who will take a questionable out of area check as collateral
GO NINERS
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Speaking of shirt, I want a raider jersey for christmas. Who you think I should get?
Seymour, Asomugha, Houston, Ford, McFadden, McClain, Bush…. or any others???
also though, I think the donks can pull off a win. They can surprise us. Bungles….. eh.
We need to run the table basically. I don’t know how we’ll do against the colts, but we have a chance with every other team.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
if you don't have an Asomugha one already
then you know which one to get. The guy is the Raiders, he is the face of our defense and if you ask any casual NFL fan across the nation to name the first Raider to come to his or her head, it’s likely going to be Asomugha. He is an All-Pro player who is constantly mentioned in the on-going conversation of the NFL’s best corners. He’s been the best thing about this team for the past seven years. I could shower him with more superlatives but I’ll refrain from it. Got to get him.
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Asomugha it is.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
McFadden got 3 touchdowns today for the second time this season.
What has he got to do to impress you?
Nhamdi is good, but did you hear his name mentioned once today?
by Oceanside Raider on Dec 12, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
I like them all.
He has impressed me. So has Seymour, Ford(not today obviously), and mcclain.
I like McFadden a lot as well, so I guess I’ll pick him.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I got a Dmac shirt at the begining of last season
and I wear it with pride this season (although I had to order it online from a store in Seattle but you get that living in NZ).
The Dmac shirt is working out well considering the last one I bought was a Moss shirt….
by KiwiRaiderFan on Dec 12, 2010 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
yikes...
It seems D-Mac will be it. I’ll ask my pops to see if he can order a raider jersey for me online.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
that, is a good thing. Mike Thomas was held to nothing today
as for some other guys in coverage who don’t deserve mention, well…
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Well
Mike Thomas had that nice catch over the middle, but then fumbled it, even if the record books will call it an “int”
he did get free for a second on that one
and Nnamdi came off him and the safety picked up where he was supposed to. Nine out of ten times that would be called a non-catch in this game. In situations where possession is too close to tell if its been established, both feet on the ground, and the obligatory football move is made (the rule states this to call possession), officials are told to err on the side of non-possession. Since the ball was effectively a deflected pass of Thomas’ hands into the hands of Branch, it goes as an int.
Furthermore, Thomas’ perfomance really needs no defense, in lieu of how many other guys got open all day on everyone else in coverage. What proved to be the difference was our inability to cover Marcedes with either lb or safety or corner all day long. I felt we should have had our most skilled coverage backer, Thomas Howard manning up on him most of the day, to at least help to neutralize the attack under.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I went back and saw that play
multiple times, and have no idea as to how that was not a catch and fumble. He took 3 steps, covered the ball up, and braced himself for the hit while turning up field.
When the call is made on the field, the tape must show, "convincing evidence to the contrary."
The officials on the field, including the head referee and the nearby line judge, could not see a decent angle (what still looks like 1.5 steps, even from good angles) nor the football move; they didn’t see him establish control.
Like I said, 9 out of ten calls, whether it’s what actually took place or not; besides, you guys won! Don’t even trip! lol
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Get 20 55 or 99
I wish I shared your enthusiasm for the donks but I saw them get humiliated by the awful cards with john skelton today, I don’t think they could beat anybody
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
meh. Division games are always different.
I only can hope for the best. Ah well.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
and those guys over Nnamdi???
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I'm cheap and I wouldn't want to buy a new one for as long as possible
So id buy a young guy
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
makes sense.
Leaning toward McFadden. Love Death Ro and Houston, but McFadden has been HUGE for us this year.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
definitely one of those GREAT sparks of this unpredictable season(comparing to the previous years).
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I just bought my first Raider jersey in nearly 10 years a few weeks ago.
That was a D-Mac jersey and I was even prouder after yesterday’s game knowing I bought it.
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The Grad Jersey worn during games has yielded only a 50% positive outcome. McFadden has been the most impressive
Raider this year and there are hundreds of No. 20’s to be seen at home games. Ford fucked-up yesterday but still has a lot of capital in reserve. My next wardrobe acquisition will be either a D Lineman, Shaughnessy, Houston, Seymour (we’ve come a long way, Dick) or LB, McClain, Wimbley, Goethel.
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"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions
hahaha
Garrard was unreal and killed you guys.
by harveyismyboy on Dec 12, 2010 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
he wasn't bad.
certainly took advantage of a couple huge plays. He wasn’t spectacular.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 12, 2010 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Considering
the pass rush you guys were running at him with. It wasn’t bad at all. Not to mention a few times when the receivers hurt his stats.
there was pass rush in the first half.
in the second half, not so much, and garrard took advantage of it.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 13, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
It was still there
but not as much I agree. Still can’t believe that Garrard INT was called an INT. Should have been a fumble if anything.
meh. either way it was a turnover. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
We need a head coach who knows how to coach and to get into plays asses when they are fucking up during the game. Cable is too soft and has made too many coaching mistakes that has costed us games this season that if we would have won would be leading the division right now instead of the Chiefs. We need to get some veteran WR’s (Chaz gotta go, he is a wasted spot on the team) and safety (Huff has overstayed his time with the. team).
by Archangel25 on Dec 12, 2010 5:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Relax dude
you lost, but that doesn’t mean Cable sucks. I think the players play hard for him. Give him time and some better players.(Receiver, QB, S)
If we win out,
a San Diego loss will mean the division is ours.
KC will lose one of the next two.
I agree re kc
But we blew it with respect to sd – I don’t think they will lose again
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:19 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree SD to win out
and we’ll get them to the playoffs with a win at KC in the final week.
by KiwiRaiderFan on Dec 12, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
mm hmm
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I'm not trying to be sarcastic here
but apparently I didn’t watch the game thoroughly enough because I’m not sure what plays occurred which really peeved people about DHB. Could someone single out a few of these plays to me? I don’t really remember a big drop or badly run route….
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Were you getting a milkshake on the last drive?
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I guess I wasn't paying too close attention
I remember a couple completions for first downs, the sack, and then the final gasp of air whisked away when Campbell through about 20 yards short of a Hail Mary pass. Oh I do remember DHB running down the sideline after a long toss but if I got it correctly it seemed like the ball was about a foot too far for DHB to haul it in. Is this what everyone is referring to when lambasting DHB?
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
campbell 'threw'
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Perfect, beautiful throw that an average high school receiver would have caught
Sorry for being an ass but I’m sure you’ll forgive me
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 5:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The pass was impecable, absolutely perfect - Jason's best all day
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
The guys work in practice on putting it ahead of them, and letting the receivers, "go get it." as Tom put it
You can see the evidence in Jacoby’s catches, sometimes in Murphy’s, in Zach Miller’s and Marcel Reese’, and DMC, even Nick Miller; not so much with D. the H stands for hands of stone, B.
I believe it’s a reflection of Sanjay Lal’s inability to mold the guys accordingly. I often wonder what this young talented group would do with a prolific position coach.
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""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Tim Brown would have them all improved in short order
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"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I've personally asked Tim! Implored, more like
his response was that they’re not interested. I can’t believe that’s true. Freddie B. can make it happen.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
arrogant pricks, the whole motherfucking lot of them
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
A Jaguars fan perspective
I will say that you gave us a very good game. Thank you for that. Your team is doing well and we wish ya that best for the rest of the season and we look forward to meeting you again. (PS get rid of Heyward-bay my grandma has better hands then him)
by jesusjagfan2009 on Dec 12, 2010 6:05 PM PST reply actions
I don't know about the DHB cut yet man;
many were saying the same such shit about DMC last season. What are these folks saying now?
I have no problem with Cbale going for it with Boller at that point
I was at the game. The wind was crazy.
thanks for the info:
Those of us at home didn’t get that from watching the game.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 8:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I noticed it.
Made a point of it in the game thread. I saw a wrapper fly in from right to left and towards the Raiders when the wind was supposed to be coming form behind them. Not sure if that was part of the decision to go for it though.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Despressing Sundays. Story of my life.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
Not for much longer man, I hear ya
Our faith and mule stubborn loyalty is gonna be rewarded soon, a couple key additions and this team can be very scary to opponents next year
by lchristmas on Dec 12, 2010 7:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Ahh, the familiar feeling of looking forward to next year! lol
it’s like, bacon in the morning…
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
"... it's like bacon in the morning" ... thought provoking, for me it's checking out this blog to see what the insomniacs said
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"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:38 AM PST up reply actions
Well, we kicked ass in the first. Then choked in the 2nd half. A dumb challenge, a fumble, MJD. It was definitely tough to watch.
I have a question for Hue… Why no sweeps, man? I saw Jacksonville toss to MJD what seemed like dozens of times. Everytime he got nearly 6-8 yards. I love the way the play-calling is going, but some Power Sweeps would really help this O.
Missing Ro’ really hurt us. His size and power could’ve really helped. Ricky Brown is a back up at best, and proved so today. Lamarr is beastly, but like someone said, is in too much. Him and Shaughnessy.
P.S.
I’m tired of watching Barnes get countless false starts.
"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi
We need a 4-3 OLB that can set the edge.
Someone like Clay Mathews? Please? :(
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I think Green Bay plays 4-3 still...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
To patguy, GB plays a 3-4 that DC Dom Capers instilled last year.
That was the main reason they drafted BJ Raji in the 1st last year. I agree, we need an upgrade at OLB alongside McClain. Too bad up until this last draft Al rarely puts a premium on LBs which usually reflects on our run D and poor special teams coverage.
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BJ Raji was a 4-3 DT. So.... okay they wanted him to play end. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 13, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
Even though they go back
and forth, Ryan Pickett is the better Nose. The beast of that defense however is Cullen Jenkins.
All new LBs, same results
During the offseason Cable pointed to the 2009 LB corp. as the culprits for our poor rush defense. Now its 2010 and we’ve got 3 new starters and we’re still 26th in the league in rush defense.
McClain was a step in the right direction because of his football intelligence, but we still have an undisciplined defensive front. The Jags gashed us for 230+ because the Raiders defense couldn’t seal up the gaps, which is the same problem we’ve had for years.
I’ll take it farther than you and say we need 2 new OLBs. I like Wimbley as a pass rusher, but he’s out of place as a LB, he needs to change to a nickel DE next year. Groves seems out of place at times as well, and we can surely upgrade there as well.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Yep. We need guys who can set the edge, and cover.
He’s a 3rd or 4th rounder I think. And he is VERY good.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Now you're talking:
McClain was a step in the right direction because of his football intelligence, but we still have an undisciplined defensive front. The Jags gashed us for 230+ because the Raiders defense couldn’t seal up the gaps, which is the same problem we’ve had for years.
I’ll take it farther than you and say we need 2 new OLBs. I like Wimbley as a pass rusher, but he’s out of place as a LB, he needs to change to a nickel DE next year. Groves seems out of place at times as well, and we can surely upgrade there as well.
Lewis, almost more like a Calvin Johnsonesque receiver than your typical TE, he’ll always create matchup problems, but our guys consistently left him way too open. I believe Howard serves the sole purpose of covering tweener guys like that brilliantly, and we need to find ways to work him in, and I still don’t think occasional 3-4 looks, and the addition of some solid tweener guys that will fit into those schemes is a bad way for us to go at all. We’re gonna be scary next year if we can have another draft like that, and continue to recognize where we truly need to upgrade positionally.
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""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
and in our guys:
I mean the safeties, too. ALL of them bite in coverage.
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""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I saw a nice toss that looked like an option to DMC that went for a TD but was called back for a hold on Zach.
That would have put us up 14-7 instead of 10-7. I think he would have at least had the 1st down if not the TD if Zach didn’t hold him. I look at plays like those in close games like this as key in the outcome.
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Replay Challenges
I was at the Chiefs game, when the Raiders were unable to challenge plays at the end (including an important one), although the Raiders ultimately won.
Yesterday, there was a play where the officials on the field called a turnover to the Raiders — but then, suddenly it was switched around and ruled “down by contact”. Cable was forced to use one of his challenges to review that play (successfully). Although the out-of-bounds on the long run challenge was not upheld, ultimately using all challenges proved to be a problem towards the end.
I think there is a problem with having a limit to the number of challenges — when successful, there should be no penalty against the challenging team. I get that the NFL doesn’t want to slow down the game any more than necessary — but we’re talking about a situation where the officials made the wrong call and are overturned. How is this something that should penalize the challenger?
If I really put on the tin foil hat, why was the call (clearly called a turnover in live action) suddenly changed, forcing Cable to issue a successful challenge?
They called holding on the Jags and said the Raiders were declining due to the turnover.
The ref even signalled 1st down pointing the other way. That is very odd. At least we can stop with the conspiracy theories that the NFL is against the Raiders now after 2 really bad personal foul calls (once against Pitt and yesterday) that overturned 2 defensive TDs. I would have preferred them leading to Raider wins but I’ll take them if it means we are challenging for the AFC Championship in 2011.
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by TAW on Dec 13, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly --
the officials on the field signaled Raiders ball, and even announced that the penalty was declined (holding against offense — Jaguars). This put Cable in the position where he had to challenge, and was successful. However, even though a timeout was not charged, the Raiders were still put into a position where their challenges remaining for the rest of the game were limited (and therefore the Raiders could not challenge the TD late).
It took the NFL years (decades?) before even allowing for replays — the system is still not perfect. I think another adjustment needs to be made where there is no consequence to the team that successfully challenges a call (it should not count to the total number of challenges allowed).
This is the same BS that nearly cost us the Chiefs game.
If the challenge is correct it should not count against your available challenges.
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by TAW on Dec 13, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The problem with that is that some Coach will Challenge 5 or 6 spots a game:
He’ll argue for every “inch” and the game will grind to a halt.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 13, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
Just put the computers in charge and dismiss the striped ones. And computers will not persecute the Raiders
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
indubitably
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 14, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
Too funny!
Much the way that your avatar, the cowboy from Westworld, would never turn on the humans it was made to entertain, right?!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
That models' arms moved quickly but not his legs ... Has anyone ever seen Ricky Brown under water?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 14, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
That's one way to think about it
but truth is you are not being penalized for getting the first challenge right. You got penalized for using the second one correctly. Only throw good challenge flags, and there is nothing to worry about.
And that is certainly another way to think about it
Obviously, it is not the (only) reason the Raiders lost yesterday. But the call was clearly made in favor of the Raiders receiving a fumble — to the point where the official motioned Raider’s ball and announced the penalty was declined. Somehow over the next few seconds, it was “down by contact” and Cable (IMHO) HAD to challenge. Was this not a ‘good’ challenge? The out-of-bounds on the sideline was a ‘bad’ challenge (in retrospect). I guess it still bothers me that the team that is proven correct via a challenge is dinged in being limited later in the game as to how many challenges remain. The timeout penalty for non-reversal challenges was supposed to deal with the possibility of excessive challenges. Why ding a team when they did not do anything wrong but have the officials look at the replay and reverse their incorrect call? Two non-reversed challenges per game sounds fair — but if ten challenges lead to reversals of the on-field call, why is that a situation where the team calling for the challenge needs to be limited?
By the way, I say this as someone
who would not even try to be an NFL official. No way I could do it, and I think that overall the officials do a very good job.
I just see it as a way to lead to improved calls — and all I want is correct calls made.
I've been a Sports official
Baseball, Basketball, and football
Football by far is the hardest to officiate. It’s just impossible to get everything right all the time. Too many moving parts and too many rules.
This team needs someone that can teach them
I am talking about the coaches and players. we have a lot of pieces here we have to develop them. We all know our Oline sucks on the right side and our WR’s coach shouldn’t be allowed on a pee-wee football team, but until we get a GM and a Coach that can hire and fire people I think this is the best we can do. I am proud of the team we lost but we could be the Broncos right now. We have our QB, RB’s Left side of an offensive line, some building blocks on offense. I think games like this is going to make Al change things up even more. What cost us the game was play man to man on defense on long downs. Anyone with sense would have gave them the ten yard on 3 and 18 and made them kick the FG we came out played man to give them a chance to score every time on 3 and long. That is just bad situational football we are one of the worst in the NFL in Situational football because everyone knows what we are going to do. Yeah Huff got beat by a WR so would any Safety in the NFL thats on the coaches. IF you put Ed Reed on any WR man to man every QB in the NFL is going to go after the safety. Our teams problem is we never allow our Safeties to play Safety they play man to man too much. THe reason Troy, Ed, and other Safeties have so many big hits or game changing plays is because there defense allows them to roam and make plays. Our Defense is set up to mess up the timing of the QB and WR’s make you hit the TE or backs out of the back field. Pretty much man to man is only good when teams run the i formation or if you blitz from time to time. Its to hard to get turnovers playing man to man so much. We are 2nd the NFL in Sacks but are at the bottom of the NFL in picks we have 8 ints the Pat’s have one of the worst secondary’s on paper and they are have 20 and even the texans lead us. I know our secondary is better than those team but the problems is our defensive scheme you can’t better the top teams in the NFL Running man to man all game or just blitzing like the jets do. The Steelers, Pats, Ravens all thoses team can play any type of defense man, zone, blitz, zone blitz, base defense they are all well coached and allow there players to make plays. Its hard to get turnover when you back is to the QB the whole game playing man.
Another way to go at is is to rush 5 off the DL reduciing the time both QB and WR have. This has been very effecive for us
and yet we abandon it once we get the slightest lead. I don’t know whether it’s all Marshall’s choice of not, but he may have a crucifixion coming.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 13, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think you are being kind in saying our secondary is better than the Pats'.
I think just because Tyvon comes on here and blogs on occasion some try to give him a free pass. Huff is considered a solid safety because he was a former 1st rounder out of a storied college program. Mitchell, when given the chance is a good hitter but up until yesterday hasn’t been much of a playmaker. Nnamdi is good but not the best IMO otherwise we would be sporting the top pass defense in the league for the past 6 years. Our defense sucks and it’s pitiful our organization can’t figure out our limitiations in order to compensate.
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a playmaking safety can make all the difference.
we need one.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 13, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
We need a Free Safety who is at least a sure tackler which Huff is not
Huff (or, if you prefer, Whiff) excels at blind-side tackles and sitting-duck tackles – what a guy
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 14, 2010 6:11 AM PST up reply actions
Deunta Williams, North Carolina, seems pretty good. Heard he is a smart player too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqssqzYQzXk
Will look at more though. He seems to be missing something, although he is a late 2nd round, early 3rd round pick.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
too bad all to often we pass up on players of that caliber. We couldve gotten him, but opted for Phillip Bucahnon and Napolean Harris. Ed Reed was chosen after Harris by Baltimore.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with alot of what you've said,
But I still maintain Nnamdi is the best corner in the league. Unfortunately one corner can’t patrol the entire secondary by himself, and when your #2 corner is mediocre at best, there’s only so much to be done. Besides that, pass defense falls to much more than the corners. The ENTIRE defense has to defend the pass, whether it’s the D line creating pressure, or the LB covering a tight end, successful defense of any time requires the entire D to step up.
True but there are only so many looks you can give in man to man.
It doesn’t matter if you have 2 good corners because most teams have at least 3 to 4 good WR’s thats not even talking about top TE’s like gates and others. It’s just crazy to play so much man to man today. I love the fact our team can play base defense but we have to switch things up. I really think we have a good secondary not because of branch writing but because what they are asked to do. Last night we all watch ed Reed get toasted covering a WR’s thats was on the coaching staff. Huff and Branch need to play more zone coverage. True they aren’t the best in the NFL but we are the one few teams that can allow them to play man to man. I totally agree about the Defense falling to much on the corners thats why no one plays man to man anymore. We have to change up the defense in order to make that next step. the offense has stepped up big time from last year. the defense has stepped up but we give up too many big plays every game but that has a lot to do with playing man to man so much.
+1
Amen. Lets move around Nam and have him cover all over the field. Who knows the QB might forget to check him off and throw a pass his way for a INT. Man is not going to cut it. We can switch it up, but for some god forsaken reason even tho we have the manpower to use multiple defensive schemes the one I keep seeing is man.
Yesterday Huff blew it on his assignment even tho he was giving his man a 15 yd cushion on 2nd-18. Result: TD. unacceptable.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Dec 14, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
WR
As far as a good veteran WR, I think we could get old TO for cheap. You can’t tell me he enjoys playing for Cincinnati. I’ll bet he would jump at the chance to play for a team that would have a better shot than Cincy. Granted, he does come with baggage, but what he could teach the younguns, that would be what we would need him for the most. PLUS he would be a dangerous target that most of our opponents would key on, thus opening it up for the WRs, RBs, and TE. As for QB, it’s too bad old AL didn’t take the naysayers and jokesters up on their “Vick could go to the Raiders”. We could use a QB who is a better scrambler than what we have. A double threat. We really could have used him, look at what he is doing now. Drop Boller, keep Grad and tandem Vick with Campbell. Campbell gets the teaching he needs, and we get a kick ass QB. Shoulda, coulda, woulda………..Cambell has the potential, I really like the kid. He just needs a good veteran to teach him the “ways of the force”………………………..
No.
Campbell is getting what he needs. He has a supportive organization behind him after we all realized that Bruce is a fraud and can’t stay healthy anyway. With a year under Jackson Campbell is getting all the experience of the close losses and the confidence of the good performances he needs in order to understand what it takes to be a productive QB in this league. What we really need is to first upgrade the pass protection and then build the defense into a monster so we don’t need a franchise QB to win it all. We got a good start with McClain and Houston and need to build around it with another play-making OLB alongside Ro. We of course may need to cut ties with John Marshall and hire a true DC that can call the plays and not have to worry about the Crypt Keeper breathing down his neck.
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Grad was playing with a bad shoulder since Houston. And while he's hovered in the 60's for QB ratings, he's never sunk as low as others
we all realized that Bruce is a fraud
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 15, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
he lost every game he started in. how is that not stinking it up.
I don’t care if the QB rating is 5 as long as we win. it can be turnovers on defense or special teams. His Shoulder was okay i believe he just isn’t very good. I also believe if he stays JC has to go or if JC stays he has to go.
They both can stay. We have far more urgent problems than QB. The controversy is all but dead so you can relax
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
Both should stay but after the performance against Miami who we were favored against I was thoroughly dissapointed in the entire team.
Gradkowski really let me down as well and am fine with a QB that tries to get it done without doing too much and risking possessions and his health in the process.
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True about Marshall but I do
we need to get a real DC that can put a game plan together and adjust when it’s not working. But we need JC to Become a Franchise Qb over the next 2 years he doesn’t have to throw it 35 times a game. Yes we also need to fix the Right side of the offensive line it is just plan bad. I wouldn’t mind getting a good vet WR’s in FA Donald Driver from GB is a FA but I don’t know if he would come to oakland or if AL Davis would consider him because of his age but he can run routes and could teach our young WR’s how to as well. I don’t think he would give JC all the headaches as a TO would. I would love it if we hire someone that can get the defense to kick it up like hue did for the offense. I want John Fox or jeff fisher
Both of your choices are very realistic so I can see us going after them.
We already run a 4-3 and both have been the types of coaches who use aggressive defensive approaches. Let’s just hope Al makes it worth their while.
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Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
TO doesn't enjoy any team that is loosing.
and will result in drama. Hell, he and carson had “exchanges” during the Pitt game, and I don’t think they are good exchanges.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 15, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
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