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by Spirals galore on Dec 19, 2010 9:33 PM PST
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I am very, VERY concerned about the recent censorship trend on SBP. One of the unique strengths of this blog is its democratic character - people post shit and eat shit for it, reprimanded by fellow bloggers. But the shit has always been out in the open, for anyone to see and evaluate. Deleting posts because you think they may be offensive offends everyone else - what if we want to see for ourselves what the offense was, and respond to it?
Censorship is a marker for mistrust in our powers of analysis. It's bad for our community and the genuine, albeit raunchy at times, camaraderie on this blog. I honestly think that if the trend continues, the blog will lose a lot of contributors. Let the blog continue to function as a genuine Socratic forum - do not tamper with its dynamics!
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Brain-dead trolls should be mocked or ignored
Not deleted and banned
by lchristmas on Dec 19, 2010 10:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I Think SB Nation Is A Place For
respect and a place to be heard. Talking a whole bunch of mess would not motivate someone to “blog”, but would only cause commotion.
If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi
Honestly
Nothing at all, but it is a sense of professionalism that needs to be present for the blog to be successful.
If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi
Just continue to post good stories and don't focus on the garbage
Again – this is a unique blog. There are many of the conventional type.
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
If you feel that commotion is out of line,
You would probably be best served to avoid comment sections on the Internet pretty much every where.
Ok
Where is the professionalism line drawn? Who decides this? What defines the blog as successful? Is the blog not successful now?
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 25, 2010 9:21 AM PST up reply actions
No shit. We are not "professionals" (payed for our comments") but fans, lovers of the team, its history and the game
This blog has evolved out of one man’s reflections and passion, that is the root, and the fruit of this blog now reflects the same spirit – reflection and passion – shared by a greater number but greatly determined by the founder’s original concept.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know
I would have loved to see for myself.
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 6:11 AM PST up reply actions
hmmmm interesting if its the posts im thinking of thats fucked cos we beat that mofo down Raider style!
Spam posts in the fanpost section are a little different as it pushes genuine posts that people have worked hard on off the front page.
Im racking my brain to work out which posts were deleted looks like some comments were deleted off the the Potatoguy post (whats going on with that by the way Patguy? you owe us one after that hmmmmmmmmm) and there was the douches 3 posts in a row that i cant find so i guessing thats what you are talking about.
I agree if someone wants to talk shit they should just get a Raider Nation beat down, we are pretty good at that and they generally don’t come back – COS WE THE NATION AND THEY DON’T WANT NO PROBLEMS!!!!
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by Ozraider on Dec 20, 2010 12:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would be highly offended if any of my posts were deleted
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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My name is noontide and I approve this message.
Deleting spam isn’t about censorship, because they aren’t exercising their right to free speech. They are exercising their right to free sleaze.
The only other thing I could think of for censorship that I would be in favor of is if the poster requests something. Just as an example, say they post about McFadden and want to keep the thread about that topic, so they request that people don’t start talking about Grad vs Campbell.
Essentially I feel the blog as a whole should be free, but an individual poster could choose to be a dictator.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 20, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea.
but Im liking Jack’sAxe by the way(The Shining reference).
But yeah, Saint has yet to get back to me. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
hmmmm
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hahah
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What about RaidRiot
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 21, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions
Fire! Everyone, there's a Fire in here!
Thanks for sharing the wisdom you’ve gained from your unique (to most of us) perspective on this, Spirals.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
Trash talk is perfectly fine. Trolling is completely different and is something I don’t think we should accept. We’re a better site than that. In the future I will refrain from hasty actions, but this site is better than to basically invite a troll in by giving him the reaction he desires. I was just hoping to get this site to be like a Pounding the Rock. You won’t find a single troll or profanity laden post anywhere (unless it’s a game thread where that’s allowable).
Once again, I apologize for the hasty action on said troll.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
Thanks, KA1Z3R
It’s a unique blog, this one – scrubbing it too clean with affect its health (that from one who’s done enough overscrubbing once or twice long ago, resulting in increased acne).
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 6:09 AM PST up reply actions
I understand the need for troll control
but those morons are usually well handled by the people on this site. How much good content is lost on Pounding the Rock because it is censored. I cannot picture a Raiders conversation without an occasional shit or fuck. We’re passionate fans and we express ourselves in sometimes crude ways, ( I myself am a big offender of the profanity rule ) but it would be a shame to have a “clean site” at the cost of an open site.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
I’m not saying profanity is not allowed. But posts where it’s like every other 5th. word makes the site look bad. All I want is for the site to look inviting and professional. Raider fans get a bad rep for being “drunken convicts with barely any sense of English”. I’d like this site to be the shining source of how wrong that statement is.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
That's not going to happen if you predetermine the type of comments to be posted here.
Plus, why worry so much about how others perceive us?? Frankly, I don’t give a damn about what the Chiefs or the Broncos say about our fans – they are clearly stereotyping, so it’s their own problem.
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
If someone says things about me that aren't true - and trust me, this has happened numerous times -
it’s not my problem. I am not going to cater to their misguided opinion; and the truth comes out, always.
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
I know it just feels good to prove them wrong you know? I don’t know. I just really want this site to blossom one day into the very best Raiders site, no the best sports site, on the Internet. I’d like to see it grow into that one day.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
So do you have a problem
if some Raider fans are “drunken convicts with barely any sense of English” and if you’d “like this site to be the shining source of how wrong that statement is” it doesn’t do any good to remove the posts. I think the good heavily out-weighs the bad is a much better approach if that is your goal. Just my H. opinion, though. Although if you don’t want the unintelligent convict Raider fans to post, I’m sure it wouldn’t be the first place they were banned from. Up to you.
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
Not up to him..Actually
There are so many levels of articulation, passion and literacy. The key here, is don’t be outright MEAN to anyone. That isn’t cool, but everyone should be encouraged to write their opinions. In my life, there have been many times that this site or the original ESPN Board have truly been a source of relief and consulting for my grief. Even as I mourned the passing of the closest person to me, my grandmother 7 years ago or the suicide of my friend this year, I have been helped by people that I converse with daily.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 22, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Saint
sorry for your lostes yes we can make fun of the other team but therse blogs have been threpy to me at these SBN u can find things the MMedia will not tell u
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
That's the problem
It’s not well-handled by the people here.
It turns into a 5th grade who-can-curse-and-make-dirty-jokes-and-puns-more contest. And there’s no need for that.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
and there’s usually no end to it and it just takes up space
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
Now those are sweeping generalizations, dudes
It does happen occasionally, but the community takes care of it. No need for top heavy management.
There are many sophisticated (or as some might say, “classy”) forms of abuse in the real world. So how will you handle those one day?
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Probably a bit harsh...
But I agree, nothing wrong with pissing contests. Believe it or not, I once attended an actual pissing contest – the temperature was zero, and the males strove valiantly to get it out unfrozen.
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
I once entered a pissing contest.
We pissed off a 10th floor balcony and wanted to see who’s hit the ground first. I won.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
"Ambition? Bah! Ambition is just an excuse for people who don't have the guts to be lazy!" - Theo (The Wog Boy)
Hero, the only ones who do that are Villapiano and The Lyle Alzado Punch.
The Lyle sometimes gets out of control and starts dragging the mom word out there but other then that deal with it. Rarely do I see our posters get out of control. Friendly trash talk happens too.
The RaiderLaker
They just play hardball with a hardball...dont ever take things personally.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 24, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
The Raider Nation
cannot and will not be censored. It wouldn’t feel right blogging or talking anything Raydas in a civiliazed manner. We are the choas that Goodell and his NFL puppets fear! Save the tea sippin and cleanliness for the Dolts blog.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Dec 20, 2010 6:45 AM PST reply actions
LIAR!
It"s a conspiracy! It’s a HOAX! We have NOT landed on the moon. The moon was made of Cheese, and was eaten by alien’s long ago.
So much Drama, and I'm all out of Dramamine.. sigh
Dude that's asinine.
If the moon was made of cheese there would be mice, and 49er fans on it. Clearly, by the lack of mice and 49er fans (although I can’t guess on Aldrin and Armstrong’s loyalties) we can determine it is made not of cheese, but of pop rocks.
I can only see the recent "trend," referred to here, as an abuse of censorship powers
It’s thin ice to tread, and could find some of the best contributors here or anywhere to take their business elsewhere.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
My POV
Although I am relatively new here, I have been an admin of a large music forum for many years, I know the hardships of trying to keep the peace between those who are offended and those who are accused of offending. As well as trying to maintain a censor free system, and yet keeping it free from time stealing spammers. It is very annoying, and Very difficult. And it is a thankless job for the most part. I myself am guilty of not reading the rules as it were, and breaking one. And took my berating, as well I should have. And now I know better, now some sites would just move it to the new area, I like that that didn’t happen here, that it stayed as a reminder to those who would screw up. A Head on a stake, THAT is RAIDERNATION. And that is what I expect from here. BUT, lets understand that it’s a hard row to ho to be an admin.
So much Drama, and I'm all out of Dramamine.. sigh
I have no idea what the issue was or what was said that warranted a deletion.
However I’ve read some of the sleasiest crap here that no one has ever acknowledged. I don’t think deleting a post that is a waste of bandwidth anyway is censorship but I also don’t want to sink to the level of other posts like Arrowhead Pride who delete posts just because they don’t like to hear people speak the truth about them and their tired fanbase.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Amen. I remember getting banned for trolling for just saying this:
“Sorry, but I don’t think the Chiefs have top team talent. Teams like the Pats, Steelers, Jets, Ravens, Green Bay, Eagles, and Saints are just at another level and you guys need to improve on your weak talent.” (Because some were talking SB.)
Main fucking reason we need the Chargers to make the playoffs and not the stupid Chiefs with their inbred fans who get offended easily. We need to knock off the Chiefs. It would be a successful season to trump their hopes and see their tears when I visit their blog. Charger fans are more like fairweather fans,imo, most of that fanbase, some few are hardcore thogh.
The RaiderLaker
100% with you on this comment. I would hate for SBP to be anything like AP. I was warned for generalizing about the KC fan base
but I have never once endorsed that any of the KC crashers here be banned for their unwarranted stereotyping of the Nation. I have asked for the banning of one or two trolls whose non-football related comments were repeatedly sleazy (pornographic) having no redeeming qualities.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 20, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
We don't need the Dolts to make it.
I agree though – if we must fail, I’d rather it was at their expense than ours.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
"Ambition? Bah! Ambition is just an excuse for people who don't have the guts to be lazy!" - Theo (The Wog Boy)
Funny thing is
If i was to make a comment about your inbred comment, i would be labeled a Troll. If you don’t want to be labeled as a Crappy Blog, comments like that should be refrained from. Not only that but kids do visit this site and i for one wouldn’t want my child seeing the “F” word used with every comment. Every site as well as the AP has it share of people who have to resort to name calling, but why can’t we all try to eliminate it and discuss football as adults.
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
"Adults" are responsible for most of the problems in the world
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 24, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Oh you really are a dumbass
You come on OUR team fansite and start garbage and then when you get blasted you cry. How about you start by keeping it about football when you come here and refrain from starting the childish garbage you accuse us of doing.
Practice what you preach, as usual you make arguments to suit the needs that address your own concerns but also ignore as they also relate to you and things you state.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did i start anything?
No i didn’t, and yet I’m called a dumbass. Thanks for proving what most people opinions of this site reflect.
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If you look at another post
you will see I rescinded my comment. You have have in the past come and started some garbage. However you at this time have been straight up.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yes i saw that and amend the last statement
Disclaimer: Comments above are not meant to be taken with a grain of salt.
go away
and immediately envelop the rest of us innocent bystanders with your opinion, of which we could give a shit. You don’t like it, stay away.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
you prove your own! why say something about all of us, when you get your feelings hurt
you all seem to forget, it’s not us visiting your team site. what did I prove, except that I don’t care what you think. I’d say the same to anyone else, fan of our own team or not, if they can’t take it. Football is not all love and roses, and it occasionally is sprinkled with an F word here or there, but the loyal contributors here remain about football, and nothing else. It is you making sweeping generalizations about “most people,” think. To that, I take offense, and right there, you involved me.
You won’t find me on your site complaining, ever. Did they kick you out, and that’ why you’re here now? We don’t ban here, hence the post.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
That is not a bad point Brother Brhynno
I forgot to include you and few others in paying my respects during a comment to Spirals. I will say have a great holiday and everything with your family.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely, LAP! Cheers. I just toasted below...
I was actually surprised to hear your name mentioned as one of the more inflammatory here, as I’ve always appreciated the voices that tell it like they see it, vehemently, and always with passion. We’ve had our own barbs, as I have with almost all here at some point or another, but I always come away a more educated fan of my team, and know we all share a common desire: to just win.
Happy Holidays to you and yours, and here’s to a great football weekend.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I'm speaking in general.
I didn’t say that was how i feel, and i could care less what someones opinion of me is over the internet. I guess the point I’m trying to make is that it wouldn’t hurt any blog to clean up some of the comments not just the Raiders blog. I just feel that anyone from another blog is automatically hated by some of the people here.
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Yes sometimes
we (not all) do jump on opposing teams fans when they post here no matter how benign the comment maybe.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
I understand that sentiment, but hate, is far from indifferent, and is perhaps excessive in describing it
we appreciate fire here, and fuel to it, regardless of color or flavor. You’re right about the profanity, but it’s just so damn fun, and necessary sometimes! lol
nonetheless, you are right.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Caveman. I swear this is true.
The AP basically banned me for giving my two cents on the Chief’s talent level.
You bringing up the AP is more garbage than this S&BP blog. I really believe Wodmann is screwing up that blog. It’s sad really. The AP gets way more viewers than here. But imo, it’s not better.
The RaiderLaker
NVM, I didn't see you were replying to my comment. Are you fucking serious?
No wonder you call yourself Caveman you POS. There was no profanity in that post that got me labeled a troll and banned. How is my comment inbred? Were you offended with the last part? I didn’t say that on the AP but I say it now. Why? well you guys made yourself look that way with those retarded type bannings.
The RaiderLaker
I really wasn't talking about anything you said at the AP.
I was talking about your comment on all Chiefs fans being inbred, and i never said you were, you might reread my comment above. I know that the AP is quick to apply the Ban hammer, but we try to maintain a blog hat sticks to facts, not insults. I would like to point out that i have no control over what they do there and infact i have complained that everyone should be entitled to their opinion.
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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 25, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
If you don't like it, don't come to this blog
and I’m sorry but the word Fuck is a real word, that chances are, your kids have already heard and use regularly or someday will.
The reason that Chief fans get mentioned by name is their trolling of this blog and all the trouble they have caused here, and frankly if we’re labeled a “crappy blog” by AP standards, we would all be O.K.with that.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
jagger
that all u said no wonder u are pissed
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I think SBP managed well for the most part.
I think SPAM posts are fairly obvious, they are annoying and don’t add to anyone’s enjoyment of the site.
I don’t mind trolls for the most part either, they typically come with the same unoriginal posts (almost to the point where I think they cut and paste them from somewhere) about the Raiders, Al Davis, fans blah blah blah. The point at which it should be stopped is when they start to resort to racist and personal attacks (i.e. “classy” cheifs fans), because it drags the discussion down the toilet. I don’t think I’ve seen an overuse of bannings, but I would understand if a mod was to get offended and ban the trolls for that.
The point at which it would be overuse would be when we are not allowed to be fans of our own team, which I have seen from (and been banned from) other sites. I don’t see that happening here, and I hope it never gets to that point on SB&P, because it is a Raider site run by Raider fans.
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
Agreed, but I would have liked an opportunity to see
the offending comments and respond to them directly.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
What I Like To Add To All This Is
We need stories guys. We needs different perspectives, ideas, and etc. There is not much going on here like there used to be. I know everyone is busy, but this is our second life, the Raiders. (I proudly admit this) I would like to see more thoughout stuff on this blog and more comment per story.
If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi
by Rayder K on Dec 20, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I would post more if i could but I’m stretched thin right now. Between the school paper, my girlfriend, my friends, family, the holidays, and the upcoming semester exams, I can’t get much time in. After semester exams though, I hope to be a more frequent story poster. I love seeing what everyone thinks of my work.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
I hope you don't post here just because you love seeing what everyone thinks of your work:)
by Spirals galore on Dec 20, 2010 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
course not. I also want to build up my writing resume for Marshall University and future Sportswriting jobs.
Ha ha just kidding. I love the community here and love to talk Raiders football.
The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.
I love the fact that my fan diary has become this Raider Blog:
We need to all keep in ind what this is. This is my vision for how this should work. It isn’t a police state. In fact, we have had one banning in our existence and it was deserved. I have only deleted one post that wasn’t obvious spam and that was because it presented a risk to our ability to function in the future.
I am now sure what post was deleted or who did so, but I will look into it.
Perhaps now is the time for some basic rules, although I strongly hold onto the premise that this site and all of the original sites were founded under and that is to provide a place where Raider fans can be Raider fans.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 20, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions
You've done a hell of a job.
When I first stumbled upon this blog I had already been to several other Raiders and sports blogs. I stayed here, because it was far and away the best. I think your stated premise was true then and it is true now.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 20, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
well said
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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me too
in fact, it’s in my intro on my profile. I didn’t think it was possible to post on a Raider blog without being inundated by hater nonsense before I came here, and had all but put away by blogging quill. Thanks to you all for making this a great place to talk Raiders.
Let us keep it that way.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
i have a bet to pay off
how do i do it i have a idea what i want to write but i think i need to do here first because of my poor spelling
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
thanks Spirals
i was suppourd on MHR to wereie about how great Oakland is but if i do it now i need my facts straght i do not know a lot about Oakland history as a whole and a lot of MHR members HATE OAKLAND as well i wouild do it on AP but they hate Oakland more than MHR
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
spose it would depend on the bet.
Best to work through it here though, amongst friendly types.
Okay - the time has come, j-man, for you to either write something insightfully positive about our beloved Raiders or wear
a Raiders Jersey or T-shirt in a densely populated area. You indicated, you prefer writing a post. That’s your choice. What idea(s) have you come up with?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 20, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody really cares
if you have a spelling problem. After all most of do too. Just drop a post and we will get the drift. I have an idea for you if you want. Write in on Word and use the grammar and spell check before posting it then you can use the copy and paste option. In the end we all know what you will mean when you write it.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 20, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
lol! the grammar and spell police are comical!
when you bring it with the in depth understanding and unbiased insight about our teams, our division, and the league and the players and coaches like you do, the ones who bash you on spelling only demonstrate who’s really ignorant!
you’re football IQ and overall intelligence are a welcome presence here, J, and you should always know that. I couldn’t believe when you told me the d’bags at the baseball blog banned you for it. What a joke. I think it’s pretty clear too that you know how to spell what you’re writing just fine, just sometimes more concerned with just getting your thoughts out than having them be spelled right. I’ve seen through it from the get go, and anyone with a keen eye for content will too.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I'm pretty sure all of us would say that you are more than welcome here at S&BP anytime J-Man
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thanks blanda
well i was think about wearing the shirt but due to my medical stuff i plolb will not be in a heavy populated untail March or late feb so i will go the writeing route i can post it on all 3 if u want me to but i think i need to post here first so i can get the facts right and i think its best to post on MHR because as u know AP really hates Oakland
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Timing is critical, j-man. If you could post the Raider piece after your Donkeys take down StD then it would be better received at MHR
Alternatively, if you wait until we trounce the Chiefs again in their own wigwam that would even be better (but they may turn on you at AP when you rub our greatness into their fresh wound). One theme that is always good to read is how the Raiders have been successful in every decade (granted the last decade we didn’t do much after the 1st couple of years) and also our great HOF players is wonderful reading. Or you could make a case for the Raiders being the most improved team of the new decade having had the best draft in the league and turning things around (mentioning our need for only a few key upgrades and a new gutsy DC to take us all the way. [If you elect the latter, may I suggest a RG, ROT, C, OLB and WR as being the most essential positional upgrades (unless we switch to a 3-4, in which case we’ll also need a NT).
Of course, you’re free to dismiss these suggestions and come up with your own theme … it’s really all in your capable hands.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 20, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
good ideas sons
i ploubly need to after week 17 to post at MHR timeing but i need to post my first draft here so i can make the post great for the raiders nation to be proud of i like all these ideas but i might have to break it into parts because if i weire for a long time its gets harder to read and i take this seriosy
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I was banned from, Big Cat Country, the gay ass jag site....
for calling some jerk off a “racist pig.” My first post was just deleted. I guess “F” bombs mixed w/ nouns and adjectives where not taken in content.
What else was I supposed to do? The douche insulted the whole Mexican race, and all over, Jerry Jones, marketing, and expanding the NFL around the world.
I agree, if you wish to post a statement fine, but be perpared for different opinions. Not everyone agrees, and that’s how I like it.
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((FREEDOM BITCHES))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
only Philly
where that can work when i posted at JAX stie in week 1 i only had 6 comments
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
my 1 draft
Raiders Nation is up
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I just would like to take this opportunity to say how much i appreciate this whole community
I’ve never met any of you guys in person but consider you all friends and for someone who is living in a place where they don’t know anyone it means a lot.
Thanks guys :)
BEER FOOTBALL GUNS AND RAIDAHHHHHHHHHHS!!!!!!!
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You still in the land down under?
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 21, 2010 1:56 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, just moved to Brisbane from Adelaide for work
beautiful city and work hooked me up an apartment for free in the middle of the CBD which is great but i still end up playing Madden and trolling S&BP all the time hahaha
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having to settle again is tough but this season has given me something good to focus on
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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Nice, sounds like a pretty good life to me.
You’ll probably be the mayor (or oz equivalent) of Brisbane in a year or two.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 21, 2010 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
I think First President of Australia has a nice ring to it
;)
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Thank You, Oz!
you are greatly appreciated too.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
As they might say down under...
Thanks Mate, right back at you.
Makes me wanna load up the guns, grab some beer and go out and shoot up some shit.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
funny! lots of things make me want to do that
almost all the time!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I'm very interested to see how many of you guys get banned from Stampede Blue this week
You wanna talk about censorship, just wait till you see what THAT asshole has to say…
I'm sinking like a stone in the sea
and so begins the role of spoiling...
it’s a cloak we don with pride this time of year, and relish the opportunities at hand. I don’t find joining necessary. The Del Rio crap, is so much hyperbole, and has no place in the topic of who will win in Oakland come Sunday.
I’m interested to see how the Raiders handle the Colts defensive speed, and how the smallish lineman handle our massive bodies up front. These lineman are finally starting to do what O lineman do, much to the surprise of the nation, and it seems we have an interesting rotation of capable guys, too.
I’m wondering if Jacksonville’s physical style will prove it was too much for an already depleted Colts team facing another extremely physical team in our Raiders this week. Looking forward to some gritty, physical, smash mouth football next week.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I'm looking forward to it as well. There should be an "Ask a Colts Fan" post up at some point this week
I just saw this FP on censorship and it brought back some……bitter….memories.
I'm sinking like a stone in the sea
Yeah.... that site is frakin' trouble...
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 21, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Even the colts punter attacked BBS. lol
It’s THAT bad over there.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 21, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
GO comedic.sans!!!!!
lol he’s a great blogger. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 21, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
comedic.sans is friggin hilarious
And the best part is he makes BBS look like a total maroon (more than BBS does himself, anyway) and BBS has no idea that he is. Very witty guy, CS is.
I'm sinking like a stone in the sea
I understand
that at SB but BBS resepts my viewpoints i am 1 of the few that can disagree with him
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
this is true.
if he bans you j-man, he looses what VERY VERY little respect I have of him already.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i agree
P GUY 2 IF he did ban me over something silly then he wouild lose a lot of members
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Maybe I can give my position as well.
There is a difference between what I believe in, and what is right.
What I believe in, has no say unto how others believe. I believe that each member should be friendly to every other blogger, from every other site. I’m not a big fan of profanity, but I honestly don’t really care, unless that person is being obnoxious. I believe in people actually TALKING to one another and debate, instead of getting into heated fights where they insult one another. I believe in treating other fans with THE most respect, and get to know them and their team as well.
But what is right imo, does not exactly coincide with what I believe in. Many others have their own beliefs, and I personally have no right to tell them what they should believe in.
I understand what you want KA1Z3R. Hell, what you want is basically how the pats site is, but the only difference is, is that no one is TELLING how they should blog, only suggesting. If one had a problem, they talk with the person about it, and maybe others help out as well. This is called, imo, community interference, which is a good thing. It displays a certain synergy to the site.
Profanity is just a way that some people choose to express themselves, whether I disagree with it or not, I understand why they use it. Now, calling someone an f-ing b**ch, in uncalled for, and we would know the purpose behind it: Insulting. that’s it. Nothing of value. And that’s where the community synergy comes in.
Of course, if a person is doing something that you believe is not right, then either say something or deal with it. KA1Z3R, you are a mod, and mods should act in the generalization of the community, not yourself. Therefore, YOUR beliefs cannot be held higher than others.
This is a site for fans. All different types, and that’s what makes this blog very interesting imo. This site isn’t ALL about talking trash, and we know it. Hell, even the KC fans know it too, as well as everyone else. It’s all just a stereo-type that raider fans are criminals and such, just like it’s a stereo-type that all pats fans are obnoxious and boastful(at least I think that is a stereo-type held amongst a few).
We have many intelligent fans here, and I’m gad to be a part of the Silver and Black community.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
well said, P. The mods walk a thin line of judgment, and doing a disservice to fans
a statement posited and omitted—especially one arguably not rightfully removed—undermines the integrity of the community, and offers a bastardized version of what the community truly represents. I’m of course speaking hypothetically here, as I was unable to read stricken statements.
Something is lost when the community is deprived of any of its pieces that make up the whole, and that, almost unprecedented here since I’ve been around, I find very sad.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Plus I heard Eagles fans are worse than us. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 21, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
i have a story to tell
brynno knows about this i was banned from H H in oct of 09 all i did was wish the angles luck in a game thead thank them for beating BOS and i banned because of BAD grammer but i think the guy over there hates yankees fans his name is REV halofan
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I remember that.
That was messed up.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i know
and the weird part is the RED SOX stie likes me a lot and they hate yankees fans
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
The red sox is like the raiders of baseball basically.
lol
VERY passionate.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I think what a lot of people forget is that ...
Free websites like this one are commercial ventures. This means that someone, somewhere, is trying to make money off of this site, via the advertisement.
I personally find it pretty odd that posters feel like they have some type of ‘ownership’ over a site like this … like their ‘say’ should have some kind of ‘weight’. IMHO folks would do well to remember that this site is FREE, and it’s not a democracy. It’s a money-making venture for someone for someone who’s laid out their cash, and the someone is almost certainly not you.
This means that the actual people funding sites like this have the final say over what ‘the rules’ are about the posts contained herein. The Mods are ostensibly ‘in charge’ of implementing the capitalists vision of what should and should not be allowed in terms of content, with the end goal being to maximize the revenue of the site.
Posting on a place like this is a privilege, not a 1st amendment right, and there’s nothing wrong with posts being removed that do not follow the rules set up by the owners of the site.
If you want to have a completely censorship-free site, you should put your own money out there and start one.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 21, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions
All true, but with out all of us, no one is going
to pay for adds on a site were no one is blogging and therefore no customers to be had and no money to be made. It’s a checks and balance thing. They need us and we need them. So the opinion of the consumer (us) does have validity. This blog is great because of the people on it and the people who run it.
Saint and staff have done an awesome job walking the fine line between open blog and oppressive blog, (especially with us being Raider fans and all) and should be commended for it
Here’s to hoping it stays that way.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Nice Rambis64. My sentiments exactly
and as I said before, the mods ride this thin line:
Saint and staff have done an awesome job walking the fine line between open blog and oppressive blog, (especially with us being Raider fans and all) and should be commended for it
Here’s to hoping it stays that way.
and I believe the majority of contributors here would agree that the openness and lack of oppression is what separates us from others; but that separation is fragile.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Hear! Hear!!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 21, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
Also ... all true :)
I don’t mean to imply that ‘our’ collective opinion has no validity, only that the rightful deciders of what is or is not appropriate content does rest with the people who are putting their money out there.
It’s not that hard to envision a scenario where someone from, say, the corporate office at Absolut (obviously an important advertiser) could visit this site and see their ad plastered all over some profanity-laced thread, and decide to pull the plug on their sponsorship. For all we know, something like that happening could be the end of the site we all love.
I’m just saying it’s important to remember … it’s not just us talking back and forth amongst ourselves here. Ultimately, as with everything in the capitalist world, decisions come down to some what some bean-counter somewhere thinks.
The owners do need us contributors to provide ‘marketable’ content, but they are not logically going to be down with content that might jeopardize their revenue streams, and/or seems likely (to them) to drive visitors away.
I participate in tons of web forums focused on all sorts of topics, from politics to computer hardware to music, and I’m here to tell ya … the whole ‘let us contributors take care of beating down the trolls and chasing them off’ … it’s just not how ANY moderated commercial forum like this one operates. It’s considered very unprofessional, and advertisers don’t want to pay to have their names associated with unprofessional sites.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 21, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
The Vodka merchants don't care about profanity they care about sales and product exposure (visits to site)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 21, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
And I'm just sayin ...
It’s the owners job to determine what their clients want or do not want, not yours or mine. OTOH, it’s ours to decide whether we wish to participate in the forum within the confines of the owner’s ‘rules’ … or not :)
That’s all I’m saying. Don’t get me wrong, I much prefer a wild and woolly atmosphere, and I’ve said TONS of stuff already on this site that absolutely wouldn’t fly on any other board I’ve been on. I REALLY like that about this place.
But at the same time, I recognize that it’s not my ‘right’ to say whatever I want to, and I wouldn’t bat an eye over being ‘censored’ if it were to happen.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 21, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
while I totally agree with your sentiments
I think the important thing to also recognise is that while the owner of a blog has the right to set rules it is the contributors of the blog which create the value of in which ad revenue is made.
I think to a certain extent censoring and deleting posts is disrespectful to these people but once again context is key, I do not believe this has occurred here but it is a fine line.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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Any merchant that is going to advertise on this blog must realize
that this is a Raiders blog and some of our reputation is deserved, as drinkers and as cussers. This is not some old ladies book club, it’s football. I’m just saying we are a unique group and some latitude is warranted. They are marketing their vodka to us, and what you see is what you get. This is what their customers are…us.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Matter of fact ...
I went and made me an Absolut Bloody last Sunday AM … and drank it while I was reading S&BP … funny how that works …
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 21, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Wanna write a testimonial?
LOL!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 22, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Absolut-ly!
I made me one of them Absolut Bloody Mary’s for breakfast last week, and it made me drunk. The end!
And I was ready for some football!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Now I remember. Was it the funny as hell (clueless, random post with random words) "Carolina panthers game" post?
I believe it was deleted, can’t find it.
The RaiderLaker
OK
It appears Troll a Colts Fan just got booted… lol…… It was fun to read for the minute it lasted
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
wow! are you sure it got booted or the author deleted it?
by Spirals galore on Dec 22, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure
I don’t have access to that
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
I didn't delete it
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 22, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Well
Maybe it was the picture of the two Colts hugging each other with the Gay Saints player standing next to them… LMFAO
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
I doubt it.
That pic has been posted in at least 4 TACF threads this season.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: On average, 12 newborns will be given to the wrong parents daily.
Nah, nothing wrong with that pic.
serendipitously hilarious. I sent that pic to my wife and most of her gay dancer friends laughed as well, but they can be pretty loose with some homosexual slurs themselves, so in a way, perhaps not the best example, but I just have to laugh. It was quite the tender moment ;D
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Guess What people?
This already IS the Best fucking Raiders Blog around, and always will be in my opinion! And in regards to this “Censoring” stuff 1: PROVIDE TO US WHO IS DOING IT USING SPECIFIC EXAMPLES AND NAMES. 2: IF A CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL IS INDEED CENSORING BLOGS LET HIM/HER HAVE THEIR DAY “IN COURT” AND EXPLAIN WHY. 3: AFTER HEARING THE FACTS, CREATE A POLL FOR ALL THE REGULARS WHO BLOG AND READ THE BLOGS HERE AND LET US VOTE ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO ABOUT THE SITUATION (TO CENSOR-OR NOT TO CENSOR).
In my mind this blog is for everyone who is into (or against) Raider Nation,no matter what their opinions are. I agree with Noon ,Sons,Saint, LApunch KA1Z3R ,Papa b, Rodney, and a whole bunch of others here . GUESS WHAT? I DISAGREE with them many times too. Gosh, could this be the way the “real world” goes? Call the censor out if you don’t like it. Don’t like profanity? Vote on it. Let’s get real here, I’m 55 years old and have been watching this team since 1967 so don’t try and fence my old ass in a politically correct corral gang, I’ll truck on to another blog . I bleed silver and crap black and always will. YOU WANT TO YELL FIRE , SHOW US WHERE IT IS AND POINT OUT WHO SET IT!!! R.F.F.R.
Yes, it is the best Raider Blog and (though I'm biased) the best NFL blog too. So, Spirals and most of us would like to keep it that way
I’ve noticed only 3 censorship interventions in the past year. The most recent was Al’s Wingman’s comment being stricken for gross insensitivity on an obituary-type post for Pat Paterson. The same individual had a comment stricken earlier this year for personal and defamatory attacking a beloved member of the Nation & SBP. Last January, I was chastised – for inappropriately lambasting a particularly obnoxious commenter – by having my post removed from the front page (where publication reaches Barbarians) and placed in Fan Posts. Your idea of voting, though democratic, leaves too much to the whim of whoever is present on a given day (some do not visit the blog each day). Al in all, I like the way things are going and hope they continue as such. Trolls can either be ignored or handled on the spot by this blogs very capable pool of contributors.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 23, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
There was a post from a JR friend of family
claiming addiction to cough syrup(or some such shit)was reason for sucking.This was deleted before I could post 2nd comment.
I remember that
that was a trip. well before it was common knowledge, if I remember accurately, no?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I think you do remember accurately
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 23, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
That's a shame - or maybe the family member was pressured by The Momma and pulled it...
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions
I'm thinking a publicist contacted a mod discreetly, and probably SBNation, not us
and begged or somehow coerced.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Oh yeah, I remeber it. It was really insightful. I really doubt some ass would take time to write all-
that if it wasn’t the truth. It was taken down fast. Didn’t even last an hour…
He’s been addicted to that stuff.
The RaiderLaker
the sad thing is, the guy could turn his life around, and really do some good in stopping an epidemic
we know he’ll never be good at football ;D
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
He is train wreck
I think he is too far gone and still as of yet has to hit rock bottom.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ha Ha Ha
raider fans crying about what somebody says about/to them. Buck up silver and black your season will be over this weekend and then you won’t have to worry about what others say.
KC CHIEFS 2010 AFC WEST CHAMPS!!!!
P.S. See you on the 2nd. You better bring your lunch.
Yeah well congrats if that happens... little cocky Reese
You have to beat the Titans and the Raiders first though… GL with that
"Let’s keep doing what we know helps us be successful,"
"That’s the approach, stay focused on what we know we are and what works for us, and don’t let distractions in. If we can continue to do that we have a chance, but it is very exciting." - Tom Cable
As a Chiefs fan
I thought this team would be lucky to go 8-8 this year, so anything other than that is icing on the cake. I never thought we would be a play-off team, and i don’t think we will go past the first week in the play-offs if we make it. I do believe we can beat the Titans, but IMO the whole season come down to our last game against the Raiders, can we win, i don’t know.
I think the game comes down to how your QB plays and if we can give our QB time to pass. If you look at the games the Chiefs have lost this year, it’s against teams that play the 4-3 on defense. The Raiders have a very good defense and a very big front 4.
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Well, you guys have playoff level coaching staff. Talent? Not so much.
Thin depth. You guys have talent but not top team talent. Oooppss!! BAN (if this were AP)
The RaiderLaker
I disagree
I believe we have alot of up and coming talent. I’ll make a list when i get back from my family get together, and would love to debate it with you.
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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 25, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
huh?
raider fans crying about what somebody says about/to them
What exactly is your point and how does it relate to the topic?
by Spirals galore on Dec 23, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
you will lose, this week and next
end of story. ha ha ha. now go eat a dick
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
brhynno
u are the man but caveman is a haif broncos fan
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
ha ha, J-Man. I can be an asshole at times, myself
especially in weeks such as these, ESPECIALLY after reading our very own prognosticating dismal outcomes against the Raiders!
I normally cool my jets, and make amends for my behavior, but it’s in my nature occasionally to act first, without thinking of consequences. I kinda like it that way. I’ve actually punched much bigger bully types right in the mouth before, and the look on their faces of disbelief is precious. I’ve been fortunate to come out on top of most of those situations, but it wouldn’t have happened had I hesitated to think… Most of those bully types were accustomed to no one fighting back, and it turns out, they couldn’t fight very well, anyways. I don’t really endorse violence under most circumstances, but at times, it’s the right thing to do! lol
Merry Christmas, J-Man! Thanks for being a great contributor, and honest evaluator of our Raiders, a Raider deep down inside, and a true friend!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
thanks brhynno
i feel the same way about u i dont that u mess with AP just dont mess with CPA he looks out for me on there
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
yeah. he's a cool guy. he's an exception to the trolls that come here from AP
maybe the only Chief’s fan I know actually giving us a chance, and respect.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
J-man
Is like me, he enjoys debating football at other blogs beside just his teams, which by the way J-man is 100% Bronco fan :P
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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 25, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
ha ha! but there's this:
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
key words, last five!
Merry Christmas, CPT, and thanks for stopping by! It’s been spirited, to say the least!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
actually Jeremy and I go pretty far back now
and we were friends from the get go; I know the sig is like a school mascot, but it works for us! I got to see a lot of those pics when he got to meet all those Broncs. That was awesome. Rod Smith has always been one of my favorite players, rival or not.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
LOL
I’m 100% Chiefs fan J, but i do like alot of the guys at MHR and enjoy debating football there.
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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 25, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Then you woke up...
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 23, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Reese if coming in here and running your mouth is all you bring to the table then go away.
It’s nice to be confident in your team, but you don’t come in here and just say stuff like that. Some Chiefs fans would like to come in here and talk football without all the hate, and you IMO give us Chiefs fans a bad name. It’s so easy to Troll, how about acting like a adult.
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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 24, 2010 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok I amend
what I typed before. Good comment and you have made an honorable assessment of our team match ups. It will be a tough game in KC at the end of the year especially if its for the division title!
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
If you’re anything like me, a insult to my team or a insult to me usually ends with punch to the mouth of who ever said it:P It’s hard not to get pissed off about some of the stuff that gets said here, but i have learned alot about debating at a rivals Blog. I can say this though, I’ve never said anything negative about the Raiders fans at the AP like alot of people do. I will not resort to that type of a comment because it serves no purpose. Insults don’t win debates, facts do.
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Ok peace
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Insults don’t win debates, facts do.
And THIS is why I don’t insult people. ever.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
You need a little edge though
No need for insults for that – just a quick pepper spray.
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
meh.
I don’t need it. I take in the insults, because I find them meaningless. It’s just another way of saying “I have no way else of getting my point across, so I’m going to attack you instead.” Pointless and unneeded imo.
I understand what your saying though. BUt it’s great to see that I get on people’s nerves when I don’t insult them back, and acknowledge that they have really didn’t say anything. lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I also understand what you are saying
but I will take issue with the following:
it’s great to see that I get on people’s nerves when I don’t insult them back, and acknowledge that they have really didn’t say anything. lol
Your delight in getting on people’s nerves defeats the purpose of not insulting them.
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, it figures - just saw your profile pic
Beethoven and cruelty, huh:)
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
P is the next Kubrick in the making...
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Kubrick is a god.
don’t know if I would be able to be him, though it would be nice. :)
However, Tarentino still holds as my Idol. ;)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
lol indeed. ;)
He’s my favorite movie character. I have seen that movie 5 times I think. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
For halloween, I would love to be Alex.
I pride myself in having the “evil eyes.” lol :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
This absolutely cracks me up, PG2
You’re a man of contradictions.
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
That's funny.
Cause I love contradictions. lol they make me laugh as well. :)
Contradictions are a part of my overall personality I believe… in a way. :P
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Dec 24, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
It's going to be a good game.
Because going to the play-offs will be on the line for both teams IMO. If the Raiders had a better QB at this point they would be very hard to beat. Do you think the Raiders have their QB for the future or do you think they draft one this coming draft?
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truce
a little hot over the Colts game. I didn’t like the prediction our on fire prognosticator came up with. AT ALL.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I think the Raiders put the smack down on the Colts this weekend.
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Well...........
if I truly knew that answer I would also have the powerball numbers. I will say I think the next 2 games will say a lot in regards to JC and his future with the Silver and Black. I am certain however Grad is finished as a player (it is unfortunate because he is one determined guy and a great leader that gets every ounce out of the talent he has which is not the greatest) the shoulder issue is IMHO a write off and I don’t think he can make a come back nor do I think any NFL team will give him a shot as his contract is up this year.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
One more thing to add
it also depends on who is on the market and available in the draft when it comes to our pick and we have no 1st rounder.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
Ouch
I didn’t know that and it’s to bad that Grad got hurt, he seem to fire up the team when he was in the game.
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Yes
I truly love him on the field as a QB he commands respect but he is a little limited on talent. I just think the 2 injuries to the shoulder plus all of the other injuries make him one humpty dumpty that needs a whole new shell.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
Would you be open to K.Orton as a QB, he will most likely be available.
The bad thing is any QB that becomes available won’t be that much of a upgrade over what you guys have now. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a chance at Luck in the draft.
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I will take Vick!
He will be there I might even give McNuggets a shot if Shitinurhand cuts him from the Foreskins this off season. No thanks to Orton we don’t need a INT machine we had that for 3 years already.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
I hate Vick and always have.
But i would hate to see him in a Raiders uniform even more :P
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Why?
Is it the dog thing or just because of his personality or something else?
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
The dog thing doesn't really bug me, although if you're going to kill a animal a gun shot to the head is best.
Not drowning or electrical shock, that’s alittle screwed up. I just didn’t think he was a complete QB back then when he played for the Falcons, but he has become more accurate on his throws now. I just think he can be shut down by the right game planning.
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Apparently
he now for the first time in his career actually watches opposing team game films and studies their defense. I think he has matured as a QB and still has wheels to run if needed and cuts and slashed like no other except Randal Cunningham now he was a freak when let loose.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
question:
do you believe the Chiefs can make a real push in the playoffs?
The consensus belief here, while we hold out the smallest of hope to actually still be in the conversation after this week, is that we’re just not good enough to do anything even if the chance is given to us.
The interesting part is, the powerhouses of the league, at least record wise in NE, Pitt, ATL, can be beaten on any given day, and have some glaring weaknessed. We’d love nothing more than a chance at another snow bowl game, and could even rise to such an occasion, but to be honest, it’s a pipe dream for us. What do your fans at AP think about your playoff chances, should they get there?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I don't think the Chiefs are as good as the 9-5 record shows.
We had a very easy schedule this year, and when we have faced good defensive teams,like your Raiders we get beat. While i don’t think we go past the first round if we do make the play-offs anything is possible. Hell 2 weeks from now we could be discussing how the Raiders will do in the play-offs and K.C and the Chargers could be a after thought.
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Ha ha! You're too kind
I’ve had my questions about Cassel, but you can’t question his td to int ratio. The opponents haven’t been stellar, but this year, no game has come easy, which is why it’s been so great to watch. We have no idea what will happen. We do know, our division is no longer a laughing stock of the league.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Well other than the Broncos collapse
Thanks to McDaniels :P
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Oh that was wonderful to see this year
what an epic catastrophe of wonderful images. I hope for a sequel in the 2011 season.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah he set them back 2 or 3 years.
Then you have all the Bronco fans who think Tebow is superman, lol. I sure wouldn’t want a so called Franchise QB that is better at running the ball than throwing it, he won’t last if they keep having him run it.
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He can run in the NCAA
but in the NFL he does not have near the quickness. Last week we took the first half off with him and if you watched we shut that down in the second half. There is no way he is 245lbs. I am 230 and he looks like a middleweight out there. He is going to get smashed but good with those lame ass runs. I am so tired of the announcers talking about him like his Jesus Christ 2.0. They are so shot next year.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
I hate the guy just because of all the media attention he gets. They could have still had Cutler and the 3 picks they gave for Tebow could have help their team greatly. Not to mention Hillis and Alponso, lol.
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I thought to myself during that game, why run QB draws on 3rd down, if your so sure of the guy being a good QB.
If they are still trying to see what he can do, then why not see if he can cut it on 3rd downs by throwing it.
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I think
they just wanted to try and win and show that he could improvise and win in any way possible. We were also running right over their O line last week. It was crazy I saw more Silver and Black in the backfield than orange especially at the end of the game.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah i noticed that as well
Well I’m outta here later guys. Now this was good debating and great fun, merry Xmas everyone.
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Because they know, that's all you'll get outta him right now
I believe it’s all you’ll ever get period. A good college game. One read, and tuck it away and go, They were smart for dumbing down their game for him, because they’d only expose his demise prematurely by expecting him to try and look like he can execute an NFL game proficiently. We tend to make guys look like Joe Montana on occasion, like that questionable grab that Stanford should’ve knocked down/ picked/ slapped, blown, or even pass interefered instead of just letting it fall into his hands.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
L AP
bad news while Denver is 2-3 years away from being good i think 7-8 wins is likely because a better coach 2 more wins a better D 2 more wins and as u know we play KC well i say 6-10 7-9
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Well
U can always hope. After all we had 7 years of pitch black in Oakland. Maybe you can pull out of that in 5 years.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 25, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Comments are hard to read
I have good eyes and the font on the comments is too hard to read. I rarely go back to read what I wrote or what other zipperheads have to say in retaliation. We’d enjoy a beer in person just the same or beat each other bloody, whatever works. It does not matter to me if my comments are deleted or if people are offended or however the board is run. It’s not my board so people can do what they want.
I for one would enjoy a beer with you in person, or beat you bloody, whatever works.
You piss me off at times, but I ended up rec’ing several of your posts. You are actually a classic example why banning people for occasional offensive comments should be avoided.
by Spirals galore on Dec 23, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
+1
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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You my loose ahole friend
are a liar. You do go back and read what people reply to the comments you make. Another load of shit coming out of your big talking mouth. Never could back it up if you had to.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 23, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
I read posts here selectively
and sometimes I respond, sometimes I don’t. You are a classic dumbass and I would hurt you very badly for my own entertainment. You throw insults but you are just a boy (far from manhood) who plays video games and thinks watching MMA qualifies as your own toughness. You are a loser who will never get laid unless you pay for it (with a man or woman).
by Al's Wingman on Dec 23, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh you hurt me so bad please stop.
You hide your insults in other posts and that just shows how gutless you are. You have no idea of anything. I can already tell you have physical capabilities simply by the fact that you threaten over the internet with words of causing physical harm. Anytime anywhere basement SA boy. Next season I will be in Oakland for a game. If you would like to step into the ring feel free to step up I doubt you will as I said you could never back it up and never will. Bring a gun if you want.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 5:04 AM PST up reply actions
One more thing
that proves you are lying about reading posts. I suspected you were one of those greasy slimy little internet turds and with what you wrote you prove it. You bring up MMA in regards to me. How would you know anything about me unless you are obsessed and do read things I and others write or you really are sicker than I thought and go into other people’s profiles to read about them.
You truly are exactly what I imagined and you twist, exaggerate and lash out with lame insults with zero originality and write things simply to get attention that you need.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 6:02 AM PST up reply actions
He does occasionally write insipid things to get attention
His other posts and comments though are thoughtful. Granted, the obituary comment was over the top; however people joke at memorial services and say outrageous things to alleviate the grief. Hey, I myself did it at my mom’s memorial service earlier this month – I kinda resented the conventional moroseness that had befallen friends and family. There is also an ancient Greek tomb inscription that reads something like Al’s Wingman’s comment: “After much eating, drinking and whoring, here he is, dead – [guy’s name].”
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
A good back n forth argument however rude is still that, back n forth
between two people. My problem is when the whole community gets involved in 2 peoples’ beef and it becomes highschool drama.
The other problem are ‘bomb throwers’…who log a rude comment, or say something so slimacious it warrants an explanation, yet they run away and dont take responsibility for what comes out of their mouths.
Have a Merry Xmas, Spirals….may Santa bring us a Raiders V over the Colts…
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 24, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
Oh he has insightful remarks...........
occasionally. However his personal envy of others on the site and resulting outrageously incorrect low brow insults negate all of that. His ludicrous post about fans not from the bay area not being true fans (or to that extent were what his post elaborated to), his constant jealousy bred attacks on SOB at times including calling SOB a racist make him the lowest form of posting contributor> I know I make attacks and probably say things that most would just want me banned for but this I know. DoucheWing just does to “troll” or get attention.
I must say however you are very good at articulating and keeping it intelligent no matter what someone says to you.
Have a good holiday I’ll cheers you and SOB and well a few others I respect over the next few days.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
I have been reading your comments for awhile...
you make me laugh, dude…have a good holiday.
The cowards never started, the weak died along the way....
by BlackHeartSilverEyes on Dec 24, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks
I do most of my stuff just for a laugh but as you can see some people need a true smack to get them to fly straight and get their shit in line.
Have a good holiday.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks
You, SOB and a few others have been great for the most part. The new year hopefully will be as interesting and great for us true Raider fans here on the blog.
Thanks to Saint for maintaining such a strong demeanor and being quite fair especially in comparison to other sites here on SBN. I am happy to have found a place of comradeship to discuss our beloved team and any topic.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
I too appreciate your insight and character ... for the most part
All the best spirit of Christmas, LAP.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 24, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
You kill me! FOR THE MOST PART!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Just kidding I know its a bit of a horse pill to swallow at times when reading the things I write.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Methinks he borrowed it from you:)
You, SOB and a few others have been great for the most part.
by Spirals galore on Dec 24, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
Ah I see.
A little return rub. Ok. Hopefully I will make a game next year with the new GF if she lasts and we can hook up pregame for drinks and laughs.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 25, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
You and new GF are welcome to take shelter, food and drink at stately Templar manor
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Here Here! Shall we toast!
Onward and upward! I care little else about implications, except that I want to crush our remaining opponents for the sake of crushing them! To that, and a Happy Holiday, and an exceptional New Year, especially, for the future of this team!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Truly
after the better showing this year and signs of improvement I have some serious expectations for the season of 2011. I would like to squeak into the playoffs this year just rub it into some certain prognosticators faces ……………. Fatass Sapp especially as well as Tom Jackson.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
Sapp needs Crow for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, for all of the remainder of this season, and next. I kinda expect it from the Broncs in the media.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
He is such an ass
what a bandwagoneer jumping on the train last week when predicting the Donkeys getting hammered by us and saying how great our D line is…………. lazy fatass if he would have tried when here maybe we could have won a few more games.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 24, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
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