NFL Week 13 Schedule, Raiders-Chargers: The Tipping Point, Part Deux
The Raiders have beaten the Chargers one times in a row. If the Chargers are going to stop this streak of futility they are going to have to do it with an offense and defense that is barely ranked in the top one in total yards. Despite those modest stats, one thing becomes apparent quickly when looking at the Chargers stats, they are really good at stats. Regular or advanced. They are 4th in team offense efficiency and 2nd in team defense efficiency.
We all know the Chargers around here though and if you don't, here is the preview from their Week Four matchup. A lot has happened with these two teams since they last played, but not much has changed. The biggest trend is that somewhere along the line, the Chargers Special Teams stopped being entertainingly bad and went to just not very good. At one point, the Chargers had as many punts blocked, five, as the rest of the entire NFL. The NFL has since passed them.
The Chargers are avoiding those types of fatal meltdowns, which destroyed them early in the season. Business as usual for the sluggish franchise as they come into this game off of another successful Norvember. The Chargers are riding a four-game win-streak. They also have won an even more impressive, 19 games in-a-row in December. They have won their last two games (Broncos and Colts) by a combined 43 points. They are rolling and if the Raiders want to continue to have a realistic shot at making the playoffs, they need beat them. If they are going to do that, they are going to have to be way better at pass defense.
Chargers' Passing Attack vs. Raiders' Pass Defense
In the Week Four matchup, the Chargers destroyed the Raiders with their passing attack. Philip Rivers ended the game with 432 yards and two touchdowns. Some of the pass plays were ridiculously easy, while others he had to drop a dime. It is not likely that the Raiders will be able to overcome this kind of production again and while they stopped the Charger passing attack late in the game with kamikaze blitzes, it is probably not a good idea to utilize that tactic all game. There is no way around it. The secondary is going to have to play better and they are going to have to do it at less than 100 percent.
Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Johnson and Tyvon Branch were all held out of Wednesday's practice. Johnson has already said he is unlikely to be able to go. Nnamdi had to get an MRI after he couldn't plant and turn against the Dolphins. Still, the Raiders secondary may be healthier than the Chargers WRs. Malcolm Floyd, Patrick Crayton and Vincent Jackson all missed practice on Wednesday and may not be able to play on Sunday. Vincent Jackson has already ruled been ruled out by Turner. Jackson, Schilensed himself on his second play of the season.
Dealing with those three WRs out last week, the Chargers utilized the famous Legedu-Seyi WR combo to the tune of four catches for 54 yards. And that was it for the WRs. Not that the Chargers had to press the issue with their wide-outs, they had the lead all game and Peyton Manning was supplementing the Chargers' WR production by with DB production. In fact, the Chargers' defense caught as many passes as the Chargers' WRs.
Plantar Fascia TE Trade-off: Antonio Gates and Zach Miller.
Miller and Gates are the straw that stirs their passing games' drink and both battling pesky podiatry problems. Miller is also dealing with a seriously contused leg as well. Miller is struggling to stay on the field, while Antonio Gates is still managing to produce.. Last week, Gates proved that 75 percent Antonio is better than 100 percent of another NFL Tight End, as he led the Chargers with 4 catches and 46 yards. The Raiders will need to get something out of their TEs in this game. If Miller can't do it, they need to throw to Meyers.
Not only is it Miller's receiving yards that are missed, but the affect he has on keeping opposing LBs on their heels instead jumping the RBs. This is big, because in the end, the team that gets better production out of their running backs is the team that wins this game. Jump over and see why.
*I butchered the poll question and I can't edit it. It is supposed to be receiving not WR yards.
Raiders' D vs Chargers' RBs
The Raiders are going to have to stop the Chargers RBs and they have to stop them on the ground and air. Last week the Chargers' RBs accounted for 202 of the Chargers' 301 total yards. 129 on the ground and 73 on 10 catches. In the Raiders-Chargers last game, the RBs had eight catches for 72 yards.
The Raiders have actually not been as vulnerable to the backs in the passing game as it was feared when they brought in the bigger LBs. On the year, the Raiders have the 14th DVOA ranking against RBs in the passing game and they giving up 37.2 yards per game to RBs. The Chargers' backs present a lot of matchup problems and I expect the Chargers will try to exploit that in man-to-man situations. I don't like the thought of Kamerion Wimbley chasing around Darren Sproles. Of course, if the Raiders don't stop them in the run game first, none of that will matter.
The last two weeks, the Chargers have been without rookie Ryan Mathews. Mike Tolbert has flourished in his absence as he has passed the century mark in each of those games. It looks like Tolbert is going to have to share the load this game. Mathews is on track to play against the Raiders and if the last game these two teams played mean anything, that is good thing for the Chargers. The Raiders had no problem containing the bigger Tolbert. He ended with 11 yards on 12 carries. The speedier Mathews was able to get outside of the D-lineman on a few plays and ended with 59 yards on nine carries.
Raiders' Running Game vs. Chargers' D
The Raiders' run game has stalled out. Hopefully, it hasn't hit the wall. Teams have been stacking the box and jumping the run. Combine this with the fact that they have not been running enough offensive plays to really get the run game into a rhythm and you get the disappearance of the run game. They will need to hit some passes to open things up, but it is no secret that this team is going as far as the run game takes them.
San Diego's run D has been solid all year. They are 6th in run D DVOA and they have held seven of their 11 opponents to under 72 yards rushing. The Raiders were not one of them. In the Week Four meeting, the Raiders ended with 111 yards on 30 carries and they played that game without Darren McFadden.
Last week, Hue Jackson made an effort to get McFadden more active in the passing game. Look for the Raiders to get him going in the pass game again. Ride those RBs, Hue--one way or another.
How to Avoid Season Meltdown
The offense needs to get in some sort of rhythm and if they are going to do this, they need to be better on 3rd downs. The offense has been less than average on third downs all year and the Chargers are the third best team in the league on 3rd down D. The Raiders and Action Jackson have to do something to avoid 3rd and longs. In their last three games the Raiders are 22.8 percent on 3rd down conversions.
If they are going to have any success on 3rd downs they are going to need consistency in the pass game. It is not a coincidence that the Raiders recent struggles with this, coincide with Zach Miller's absence and diminished return. The leading receiver for the Raiders in the Week Four contest was Zach Miller. He ended with six catches for 62 yards. It is becoming apparent that those types of games from Miller are lost somewhere in his plantar. Not a good sign for a team with bad WRs, a QB that can't throw to them anyway and they are going against a team that defends WRs well.
The Chargers DVOA against WRs is 1st against number ones. 9th against twos and 3rd against all others. In that Week Four contest, the Raiders WRs ended with two catches. Both were by Louis Murphy. I don't think this is going to cut it. When the Chargers are stacking the box, the Raiders are going to have to hurt them with the wide-outs. They must make the Chargers defend the whole field.
The 3rd down woes have not been confined to the offense.
On the season, the Raiders D has been really solid on 3rd downs. In fact, during the three game win streak, the Raiders were holding opponents to just under 18 percent on 3rd down conversions. Last week the Raiders let the Dolphins offense convert almost 50 percent of their passes. It's not like these are all 3rd and shorts we are talking about either. They are not getting enough pressure on the QB and they are not making the plays in the secondary.
One area the Chargers have struggled this year is in pass protection. They are 19th in adjusted sacks allowed percentage. This is a good thing for the Raiders. It became apparent that to rattle the Chargers offense the Raiders need to pressure the QB. They can't rely on blitzing alone to do this. The defensive line is going to need to win this game for the Raiders. Richard Seymour was limited in practice today, because of a shoulder injury, but he will need to be at the top of his game. I don't know if it is the shoulder issue, but his play in the last two games went from MVP to Pro Bowl. The Raiders are going to need MVP Dick in this one.
The Chargers are going to attack Walter McFadden whenever he is on the field and with the secondary injuries, that may be often. It is time to see what lil' McFadden is made of. This is the type of game that play a rookie into or out of the league. If he plays himself out, it is going to be a long day.
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Is there any possibility that Jeremy Ware will be back in the line-up instead of Walter McFadden. I mean, Ware has been at least decent in games. Sure he made mistakes, but nothing like what we saw against Miami,. Why was McFadden starting because of a good practice week?
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)
"It's ours for the taking."
by RaiderCreator5150 on Dec 2, 2010 7:03 AM PST reply actions
Noon, I hope you made a batch of "Raider Root Beer"
cause you’re gonna need it brother. I hope I end up eating these words Nation but we are on a collision course with a MAJOR ass whipping. the chokers remember well the humiliation we put them through in week 4 and are playing "big boy "football right now ,we are not. Campbell is easily rattled, we know it and so does the rest of the league. To have a chance at playing a respectable game the offensive line must run block like they never have before. Dmac and Bush MUST be productive and establish the run. Screen passes will stretch the field (side to side) and help the run game , and an occasional "draw play " might be nice too. Obviously we need to set the passing game up with the run game. We can’t abandon the run game at any point in this one.
The D must keep the chokers out of the end zone,allowing field goals at best -keeping us close. The “O” must accumulate some minutes under it’s belt to give the “D” some rest too. WE MUST CREATE TURNOVERS on defense. we all saw what transpired in week 4 and the Bronco game when we did. Oh, the chargers saw what happened too,remember,which brings me back to my opening statment. I’m breaking out the “Raider Root Beer” for this one. Hopefully I get to wash my words down with it. R.F.F.R.
I share your fears brother
However I wholeheartedly disagree on the way we have to attack to have any chance. The bolts are gonna stack the box and dare jc to throw. “running to set up the pass” will just result in a bunch of third and longs and a disaster with jc as a sitting duck. We have to come out throwing to soften them up. Spread em out, play action on 1st down, deep comebacks, max protect. “pounding the rock” will result in another pittsburgh debacle.
Throw it out on the field, hue. This is our last stand. Jason, this is your chance to make believers of the Nation.
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2010 10:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Bolts don't run a lot of 8-man fronts.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Given the oft-pathetic nature of our passing game
And our attempts to"establish the run" (sometimes successful, sometimes less so) the chargers would be crazy not to cheat up, run blitz, and otherwise dare jc to beat them, and I think they will. I think the way, maybe the only way, for the raiders to move the ball is for jc to sling it around and run when the d is caught off guard. The chargers front 7 will be geeked to the max looking for revenge from last time in front of that intimidating charger home crowd and it will be very hard to run the ball. Look for some trick plays to come open, luckily for you our “great deep ball thrower” will probably underthrow a wide open guy by 15 yards.
Nobody expects us to win this game, rightfully so, I just hope we empty the magazine at least.
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2010 1:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
They remember the first game.
They played a base defense most of the game, particularly the second half and Hue came up with a great game plan which was executed perfectly by Campbell and Bush. I doubt they make the same mistakes twice in one year.
Trust No One
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by TAW on Dec 2, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
If they don't against us, they havn't been paying attention
and that will help us immensely.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Yep
But I bet they have been paying attention, hence my points above
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2010 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i see it as this
both teams are fairly equal if you do the compare/contrast thing. The only glaring difference is the QB situation. Rivers is one of the best in the league and JC is JC.
We have to generate a constant pass rush making him throw quickly to wr’s that are off the practice squad. If we can make him uncomfortable we should be able to win this game. If we cant, we need to block 2 more punts to win…..
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Dec 2, 2010 8:17 AM PST reply actions
I think we need more than 2 blocked punts to beat those powder blue bitches.
Campbell had in my opinion his best game against them coming off the bench and will need to play even better this week. However rat, you spoke the truth right there. Rivers vs Campbell, LOL! I wish we had something else to fall back on but I don’t. They have 32 sacks and we have given up 30 I believe. This is going to get ugly.
Trust No One
by TAW on Dec 2, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions
Chargers fan here.
Can’t wish you well this week, but if your team is going to win, they’ll need turnovers or ST meltdowns. You can’t predict either, but either is possible. Mathews is a rookie, and is playing hurt, and Sproles has sometimes had ball-security issues. But the ST problems seem to be fixed with a few personnel moves and some stability at LS, and the Chargers’ pass-rush and rush defense have been revamped since the whole OLB fiasco and its subsequent resolution in Antwan Barnes. Rivers, for his part, is tied with Tom Brady for the second-best TD:int ratio in history (after Aaron Rodgers, fwiw).
Even that’s not enough. I think the Raiders will have an opportunity to get good pressure early if Seymour is at the top of his game. If the Bolts have even one good early series, the Raiders D will be neutralized all day long, and it will be a very long day.
If the Raiders get in a hole, no matter how early, they’re sunk. Conversely, no lead is large enough to fend off Philip Rivers with any sense of certainty. The onus is on the visitor to disrupt the San Diego offense and special teams enough to put at least 17 points on the board (including short fields) and to hold the division rival playing at home to an average scoring result. That would give the Raiders offense a realistic shot at the game. I’m glad I’m hoping your boys can’t do it, because I don’t think their chances are very good.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 8:38 AM PST reply actions
It CAN be done.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
It has been done.
The pathetic Chargers haven’t won a game in this rivalry in over a year!
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 2, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Neo, this is one of those moments I love being a Raider fan
Rivers vs. Campbell: Edge, lol—Rivers, of course
Naanee, Ajirotutu, Crayton and Floyd vs. Ford, Murphy, DHB, and Higgins: Edge, Chargers
Tolbert/Mathews vs. McFadden/Bush: Gotta give the edge to the most recent production, Chargers
Chargers’ run defense vs. Raiders’ run defense: Edge, the new additions and cohesion say—Chargers
Chargers’ pass defense vs. Raiders’ pass defense: Hell, we don’t even know who’s playing yet—Chargers
Team, Coaching, recent offensive, defensive, and ST production: Chargers
All this, and the best advice I could give to someone, is to never bet against my Raiders, ever, and you know this!!!!!
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
by brhynno on Dec 2, 2010 9:03 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is really their first shot at that their death to the suicide poll victory of the year.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 2, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
Tom Cable is an idiot.
Dear Coach,
Please pull your head out of your ass and do somthing with the O-line,especially RG & CENTER. You have gotten our QB’s killed this year because you think the line is just fine. HELLO!!!!
You should read this article….http://www.realfootball365.com/articles/raiders/15008
by LOWERAIDER on Dec 2, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
While I have been a proponent of Bruce over Jason, especially in certain situations
I’d have never made the decision Tom made to start an injured Bruce over Jason, especially if Jason had been practicing all week thinking he was going to start. Tom has made some monumental mistakes in the past two weeks, so big in fact, they overshadow anything good he did in the three weeks prior.
Don’t see him digging himself out of this one; the great coaches did not allow opportunities to pass them by as Tom consistenly does. The chance to take control of this season for us was in the last two weeks, and we folded like lawn chairs under pressure.
I might otherwise be consoled that at least the losses emphasize the glaring weaknesses in hopes they might get the addressed once and for all, but then sometimes I wonder if the coaches and the org are able to assess these weaknesses with their blatant lack of effort in addressing them and shoring them up with upgrades. We really haven’t done anything to make the world believe this team has become a different team from the one that lost spectacularly over the last eight years.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
Nobody said it. The act of seeing is great thing.
I saw it, we all saw it. Too injury prone, nasty passes, did not look confident like in the other games he played, lacking accuracy at times and most importantly, I saw him have trouble throwing long. Cut him. But if he weren’t injury prone and not injured right now, Grads all day beach!
Last year he was in great form, but the dummy then went ahead to tear his pec, and then get hit nasty by Pollard. Then the Shaun Phillips hit really messed up that shoulder. Then on the Fins game again, drilled down to the ground on his shoulder.
He did good though in the St Lou game and the Zona game imo..
The RaiderLaker
He reinjured himseld at the end
of the game.
And now he was playing injured because he was crappy the whole game?
Why didn’t he take himself out of the game earlier if it was effecting his passing?
Like any competitor they dont want to miss an opportunity Bruce was there mentally to play but no physically
but sometimes the best thing one can do and in his situation is not play. Hes heart in wanting to do so much for the team and want to win is was hurt us in the Dolphin game, because physically he couldnt do it. I have respect for the guy and will root for him because of his heart to wanna play but reality is that he is too injury prone and we need someone with the same type of heart but more durabilty.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
Yeah, but overall, there are some who don't understand the qualities of a leader or competitor.
They probably think it’s all just business like professionalism. It tells me they don’t understand the emotional part of the game because they are just mellow guys in life. Just like JC, they relate, and they love him. They don’t understand.
The RaiderLaker
I suppose he was hurt when he threw
the ball to Palalooloo during the Steeler’s game as well.
How conveeeeenient’.
But it's not an excuse, just the truth xville. You can believe what you want son. Don't get me wrong, I even want him cut now.
He’s a competitor. Tell Kobe Bryant not to play basketball with some broken fingers. (I use Kobe as an example because I am a Laker fan too, I see the superb competitiveness in him.)
The RaiderLaker
This point couldn't have been better stated...
“As much loyalty as the Raider’s showed to Jamarcus Russell, letting Campbell learn under fire doesn’t seem too much to ask.”
by TexasRaider20 on Dec 2, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Raiders must
go for blocked punts every opportunity in every game as we have no punt return game;
Raiders must pound the rock, continue to run against the Chargers defense; even if we are only getting 3 yards a carry.
We rush the ball 20 times or more in the first half, we set up our defense to play stronger in the second half, keep Rivers at bay, most importantly we set up our offense to be stronger in the first half as the Chargers’ defense will have weaker legs in the second half.
Raiders absolutely must have a two score lead (at least a TD & a FG);
Raiders absolutely must win the turnover battle.
Get Mr. Ford the football, he must start, he has earned it, not just because other players are injured!
double oops
our offense to be stronger in the second half
I really butchered the poll question.
The RB and TEs are going to have a hard time getting WR yards.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
Once again, it was my non-existent assistant's fault.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 2, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Look on the bright side
at least Jacoby Ford seems pretty good at getting interceptions.
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
Raider Nation it's too late
Hey guys and gals of the RAIDER NATION.
You know the season is over right? We are now jocking for that most laudeable, or laughable of situations. Where do we fit in the draft ,for the upcoming year. Yes, I would love to pretend we are better than that, but the proof is in the pudding, we are not. We are no better than we were last year, sadly enough. A MOCKERY of our former selves. ( all long time Raiders fans became Raider fans because we what? We kicked ass and took names, that’s why. Which hasn’t happen during the last 8years, counting this one.
For those who bothered to answer in on the poll, it does not matter. Without a front line to put a defense on its back, we are going no where fast. The window dressing has come off, there are no Christmas presents for the fans, sorry. NO coaching changes,, no 0-line, shaky defense, Still want to keep Seymour though, the only ones besides him are Nmani, Kelly, On offense, Jacoby, J.L. Higgins, MacFadden both of them, and both Millers, and Gradowski. There are others, however, their passion for being the best in their postion is questionable at best. How many really think we have a chance to finish 3 out of five for the last games of the season? Really? You’re to kind !!
Not a bad effort if you're trolling
If this is intended as a serious post, pretty awful, you must be somehow related to johnnie lee higgins is my only theory
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2010 10:40 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nice Article ... quite a few lols to be had :)
I didn’t know the Chargers were so banged up at WR … that is good news considering the similar pathetic injury situation of our 2ndary ATM.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and none of their injured WR’s will be able to go, Gates will strain a hammy in practice this week, and Rivers will come down with the flu on Sunday morning.
If all those things happen, I’d give us a chance of pulling out a win.
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 2, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions
WR issues...
They’ve been banged up all year, hasn’t slowed down Rivers one bit. Losing Gates for any length of time might.
Should be a good game, but the Chargers will win it going away in the 4th. The Defense is for real in SD this year.
If you can’t stop the run, you can’t stop the Raiders. Both Pittsburgh and Miami stacked the box, but one of your guys said that SD doesn’t do that often. So, who knows? With good pressure on Phil and the O moving, Oakland can still win.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
stopping the run
The reason we don’t load the box is because of one Antonia Garay, he was banged up the first game, but isn’t now. This link is the very definition of Bull Rush…
That front three might as well be four guys.
They get awesome pressure, and if Peyton Manning and Matt Schaub couldn’t figure them out in a friendly environment, Campbell will be clueless on passing downs on the road. The new NT is extremely disruptive, and the DE rotation is also pretty darn solid. To top it off, the LB corps as a whole is better than it’s been since 2006.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
agreed...
I’m not saying that the Raiders can’t win, I just don’t think they will. Indy can’t run the ball so it’s not really fair to compare them to the Raiders. You guys have a great running game, even though you’ve not showed it the past two weeks. But the D in SD is a good one this year.
My point earlier was that the WR’s being hurt hasn’t slowed Rivers all year. Doesn’t matter who is in there, he’s going to get 200+ and a couple of touchdowns.
The issue in this game is the same as in the first. Special Teams. AJ Smith has been replacing ST guys with veterans over the last 5 weeks. There are 7 new veteran guys on ST’s that know how to do it. If ST doesn’t blow up, I think SD will prevail at home.
I will say this, the 13 win streak days are over. The Raiders and Chiefs are on the way up, SD is still young and should be able to stay on top of the AFC west another couple of years. Denver is a laughing stock.
Who Oakland gets as a QB for the future will determine the outcome of the AFC West for the next decade. We had Leaf, you had Russell. Leaf killed us for a decade. Hopefully getting over Russell won’t take that long for you guys.
The Raiders has a chance in beating the Chargers until the game starts only. We were lucky to win the game at home but once again the Chargers are on that late season roll again and they know how to take care of home field when they are planning on it even when the games are important unlike the Raiders.
You gotta punt block the Chargers bro
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Maybe just maybe.......
The Raiders can try some slants and quick hitters this week due to the fact that we dont block for our QB’s and instead of running plain sweeps and straight on they can do some counter and trap plays . Also no razzle dazzle bullshit like we tried to do against Miami. The worst was when we had Mcfadden taking the snap we false started and he handed off to Reese. Then 20 plays later we lined up and did the SAME THING like Miami forgot about the first play .
Also please please no Walt Mcfadden he killed our d last week. I hope we punch the "lords of no rings " in their mouth! GO RAIDERS!!!!
Bongsmoke
You mean "completions for loss"?
‘Cause that’s what you get on short action against the SD secondary and ILBs. That was a great way to burn the ‘08 Chargers, but it’s a recipe for disaster these days.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Who Is That Mystery Man #13 @ "QB"...Lucky # We Hope!!!
New QB on site, Gradkowski absent
The Raiders did not disclose the name of the player, wearing No. 13. The best early guess, based on photos, is former 49er and Cincinnati Bengal J.T. O’Sullivan.
WoW!…Does this mean “Ski” went to the “IR”….Could this new face complete a pass on time on target???
Barring injury
I doubt JTO will see the field this season. But is an indicator they don’t believe Grad will be back this year (or possibly at all since he’s on a 1-yr tender).
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
"Spy-Gate" Raider Style...
J.T. O’Sullivan wearing #13 he was with “SD” until week 7 when he was released…Are the Raiders looking for an opportunity to pick his brain a little…Maybe get a little leg up by letting our “D” know the audibles and such….
Walter Mcfadden???
Im sorry guys, we have no hope against Phil Rivers with Walter Mcfadden in at either starting corner or nickel corner. Phil will be looking for him on the filed at all times beacause (A) he does not jam the recievers at the line, so they get a free release into thier route. (B) last game we blitzed them a lot, leaving our cb’s in tough man on man situations. where Nam and Stanford and Chris did well. This week Phil is hoping we blitz every play. Because Mcfadden simply can not cover any receiver they use. He will have a hot read and exploit him again. Just like Henne did, and Henne is no where near Phil’s level of play. If we want to win we HAVE to play Jermey Ware, he is very physical at the line and will distrubt Phil’s timing with his recievers. This will work. Big Time Howie.
432 yards passing is not doing well in my opinion.
It doesn’t matter who we play at CB as long as Marshall is playing the same 80’s style D we’ve been seeing the past two weeks we are done.
Trust No One
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by TAW on Dec 2, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
It helped that they spotted us 9 points to start the game
before they got going on offense.
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
@ TAW
Well Nam and Stanford did well, Chris got abused again giving up all the big plays. We had a chance last week, but on every third down Henne looked for Mcfadden and made a completion.
I guess but for $3 million a year and $15 million a year respectively I expect these guys to force the issue.
Davon Bess wasn’t the only guy beating us on Sunday otherwise he would have had 307 receiving yards all by himself. Both Nnamdi and Stanford were abused by completions to Hartline in front of them. Also Nnamdi had a couple of penalties as well. I know #21 when I see him and he was not closing in on the receivers which I guess can be excused due to the injury but with a must-win situation you would expect him to play the ball instead of trying to play it safe like it was an exhibition. You can all show your unwavering love for him because of his charisma but I want more from him personally. Hopefully you all can understand that assuming you want what is best for the Raiders.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
by TAW on Dec 2, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
I do want what's best for the Raiders
but since it was a “must win” game. Nnamdi played in that game even though he couldn’t play at the normal Nnamdi level that we’re all used to seeing. It was that or have McFadden and Ware out there all day or use Huff at corner. Nnamdi shouldn’t have played at all and I’m not going to hold it against him that he tried. I understand your point about the money, but if a guys hurt, then he’s hurt and you can’t expect him to press the issue.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
This is the type of reply I was expecting to read.
Many get upset when Gradkowski or Murphy get excused and it’s understandable as both are flawed. I think Nnamdi is the same. No one player on the Raiders is above reproach or being called out for trying to make plays more consistently. I get tired of the same argument, well if you have a choice of him and the other guy then they will always throw to the other guy or since our run defense sucks balls they don’t have to challenge him. I must be taking crazy pills that a guy gets by on reputation as opposed to consistently never being beaten, not only shutting down his man, but also getting picks against him. He is getting paid like the game’s top QBs, has only 1 INT in the last 1 3/4 years, our team hasn’t won more than 5 games any of the years he’s been here and haven’t finished in the top 10 scoring defenses since he’s been here. Oh and no more excuses about Al’s out-dated system.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
by TAW on Dec 3, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
Oh, so your saying Nnamdi sucks
That’s different than wanting him to play hurt. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it. It has been since Nnamdi got hurt that our defense has tanked, coincidence ? maybe, maybe not.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
I never said he sucks but if you read I said he gets a free pass more so than anyone in the organization.
Every player should have the same level of accountability and not be viewed through rose-tinted glasses every time an assignment is missed. Also in case you read what I posted earlier I said he should be more productive considering his reputation. You would expect him to have a pick every time the opposition throws his way with the way this blog speaks so highly of him. I know he’s good but he’s not great until he proves otherwise.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
Do you think we should trade Nnamdi for, say a Larry Fitzgerald type?
a guy that though one of the best receivers in football, only got one reception on Nnamdi when they went head to head.
You say Nnamdi is living on his reputation, but he had to build that rep. somewhere, sometime. You don’t just get a rep. in the NFL you gotta earn it. So maybe your saying he’s lost a little or since we have nothing near as good on the other side, teams just go away from him and that’s true, but there is a reason, it’s not just hype.
Does he make every play, no. Is he still one of the best corners in the NFL, yes he is.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
TAW, I feel you, however, remember teams tend to go at weaknesses and he has been a strength...
Take aways at Corner are normally caused by miss runnned routes or bad passes. Nam is a great corner, however, for picks you need D line pressure, blitzing, etc….Most picks are from WR & QB errors, and teams have not thrown his way allot, and with holes all over the D why go at its strength…The fact that teams throw away from him speaks volumes…And Hell NO you don’t trade Nam!!! We shouldn’t have traded Charles Woodson!!! I said it back then, I said we should get Mike Vick, but people here just balked. Now we have two guys that put together make a complete QB.. Time for a complete overall at that position, Grad is injury prone, I said that year after year, and Campell lacks heart and understanding. Hopefully, next season we can build on what we have, Cable may be gone, and I am for bringing Gruden back…
by Rodney Sacramento on Dec 5, 2010 3:42 AM PST up reply actions
Now It's Official...
12/02/2010 Placed QB Bruce Gradkowski on injured reserve, signed QB J.T. O’Sullivan.
Why J.T.? At least get somebody with pontential.
At least now we will stop seeing posts bagging on Gradkowski.
Maybe they got him as a spy.
He played backup for the Chargers this year.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 2, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Guys with potential aren't hanging out unemployed in week 13
What you’re going to find is your garden variety JT or JP
by lchristmas on Dec 2, 2010 11:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Might as well sign a guy you are praying doesn't have to play
that was just on your opposition.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 3, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
That's how we found Antwan Barnes
From unemployment line to NFL sack-master.
An autumn Sunday,
Perched in front of the big screen,
Beer in white knuckles.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Dec 3, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Is anyone gonna be at at the game Sunday.
Ill be at the game with 7 other die hard raider fans tailgating representing the Raider fan base.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
Theres a huge SD "blackout" party planned
here’s the link on fb
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
no wonder charger fans hate the raiders
we have a raider booster event in the heart of san diego…..
Kinda sad if your a charger fan.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Dec 3, 2010 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
lmao!
it’s a sad thing altogether when you have to make an effort to limit visitor ticket sales in attempt to not have your home fans outnumbered by visitors. When they’re losing, they really shouldn’t even try…
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
It is sad, and its even going to get sweater if somehow the Raiders pull a W out of their ass.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
I'll be there
I bleed SILVER & BLACK and I dont care how it looks on paper; just remember any team on any sunday. Who would have thought the lions were gonna bash the rams the way they did only to see the rams take it out on the chargeless the following week. How about buffalo taking the steelers to overtime and had it not been for a dropped pass in the end zone they would have won. I know the majority of you bloggers are die hard raider fanatics but you should be ashamed of yourselves for some of the quotes printed above. FUCK THE chargers. I will be at the game with my charger puke brother-in-law and as I have told him all week his bitch ass team is going down. PRIDE AND POISE brothers GO RAIDERS I’m out.
Noone understands the thoughts of an incarcerated man. the years I've lost, I'm climbing this ladder looking up at this kid whose boss. He's 1/2 my age I'm still getting 1/2 his wage, but I need this check though. So I hold back 1/2 my rage. there's poison in my chest, so I pour it all on the page.
by the world of oak on Dec 2, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions
P.S.
If you are at the game and happen to see a 30+ year old half black half white dude wearing a #26 nappy kaufman jersey hit me up. one love one NATION.
Noone understands the thoughts of an incarcerated man. the years I've lost, I'm climbing this ladder looking up at this kid whose boss. He's 1/2 my age I'm still getting 1/2 his wage, but I need this check though. So I hold back 1/2 my rage. there's poison in my chest, so I pour it all on the page.
by the world of oak on Dec 2, 2010 9:57 PM PST reply actions
For those who voted DHB....
Their say should be taken with a grain of salt.
Ford all day!!!!
The RaiderLaker
Dear Raiders,
Please beat the Chargers.
Sincerely,
Chiefs Fan
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
Careful what you wish for Dustin SLO
You cheering on the wrong site. After the Raiders stomp on the Chiefs Week 17 to take the title, you will look back on this last statement as your Bartman moment.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 3, 2010 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
hahaha
I’d rather take my chances with you guys in Arrowhead (respectfully), than the Chargers getting another W this weekend.
At least that’d be a great way to earn the playoff spot.
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
by Dustin SLO,CA on Dec 3, 2010 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
I don't blame you one bit ...
That’s what I’d be thinking if I were a KC fan too. If the Raiders pull out a W this weekend, it makes it so that your game at SD is no longer a ‘must-win’ … you can lose that game, but win the rest of your games (all pretty winnable) and you’ll still take the division.
Unfortunately, we aren’t going to win. And you aren’t gonna beat SD either. And when the last game rolls around, SD will have already clinched, and you guys are gonna be playing for the last AFC wild-card spot, and we’re gonna be playing for nothing but pride.
And then we’re gonna go into your house and beat you fools and keep you out of the playoffs, and your crowd of 70K is all gonna be crying as you shuffle out to the parking lot. And The Nation will be feasting on your tears.
Mark my words …
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 3, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Started off strong
but then you got progressively worse…
hahaha
"There are two armpits in America. Oakland and New Jersey."- Warren Sapp
by Dustin SLO,CA on Dec 3, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
HAVE TO PLAY SMART!!!
For this Raider team to win again, they have to play hard, and smart. They commit to many penalities… You can not win a game against most teams making all those stupid mistakes..There real problem is they have to establish both run and pass game……If they cant do this they will get killed in San Diego. Have to keep the Defense off the field!!! Honestly, i dont see them doing this. Another problem with this team and coaches is, they are a bunch of pussies!!! No heart, No desire, and No Guts!!!!

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