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Oakland Raiders 2011 Draft: Wisniewski, Stanzi and Moch

Now, there are three names that i haven't thought much about, YET, I am sure that these names will be coming up over the next few months quite a bit.

Stefen Wisniewski is the son of former Raider O-Line Great and team Captain, Steve Wisniewski, which probably means that like Chris Long, son of Howie, we will see him taken above our selection, but, I can dream right?

Wisniewski is the type of player that teams like New England, Green Bay and Indy collect like prizes and they end up playing for 10 years and solidify the way that those teams play the game. Although, according to the online scouting reports, he lacks the explosive punch that we all hear Mike Mayock speak of so often, he is the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme.

Stefen is quick for a Center and has a deep knowledge of his responsibilities in his assignments. He could be snapping the ball on every offensive play for the next 10 years. I know that adding "Mini-Wiz" to the fold would also excite the fanbase.

 

Ricky Stanzi is a winner, plain and simple. He isn't Andrew Luck, by any stretch of the imagination, but I have always been impressed with Ricky and I think that he would be a steal in the 4th Round, but they may need to take him in the t3rd if they want him.

Stanzi is quick on his feet and is a leader on the field. He has played through pain, which has effected his numbers, but he seems to always have his team overachieving and I think that he has the brain to play QB in the NFL.

 

This brings us to my find of the day. I know that many of you have seen this guys fly up draft boards and some of you have seen him play. I am telling you that this guy is absolutely NO JOKE and his name is Dontay Moch.

Dontay brings a special combination of speed, finesse and power to the defensive side of the ball. He only weighs 242 pounds but he can toss aside 300 pound linemen and wreak havic in the offensive backfield with his 4.38 speed. 

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Now, tell me if you don't think that he would be the perfect compliment to McClain and Wimbley? Can you say weakside blitz?

If you want to see Moch live, he will be playing in the Kraft Fighting Hunger Bowl in SF on the 9th of January as the 12th seeded Nevada-Reno team takes on Boston College.

 

I'm not sure what got me off on this tangent this morning, I think it was the fact that I want to be optimistic about the future and seeing the names that could join this team in the off-season makes me smile a bit.

Cheers,

Saint

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Agree with you on Stanzi

but hard for me not to, grew up in IA and on Sat in the fall, I bleed Black-N-Gold. It will be interesting to see if OSU’s Terrell Pryor will leave for the NFL as a Junior rather than sit out the first 5 games for NCAA suspension. Should he enter the draft, I would also be happy with Pryor.
The uncertainty of the CBA will make it interesting for Jr’s this year. I believe there will NOT be a new CBA by Jan 15 2011, which is the deadline for Jrs to declare for the 2011 draft. With labor uncertainty, I am predicting that very few jr’s enter the draft this year, might as well stay in school, continue to workout, practice and complete with your team than to sit it out (could still go to class though I guess) b/c the declared for the draft. Now we all know that most yrs, when jr’s enter the draft, they are good prospects and usually drafted. However, I am not sure of the exact wording on the league rules, but I am under the impression that even w/o a new CBA, there will be a draft. What I am not sure of is if this is the case, AND there is a lock-out, what happens to these players? Do the teams have to sign them to a contract to prevent them from re-entering the follwoing years draft? If so, then they would at least get their signing bonuses I suspect, but if locked out, there will be no game checks.
Additionally, I wonder what the rules are as far as being drafted, signing to get your bonus, if there was a lock-out, would they be allowed to sign with and play for a UFL or CFL team? Who is our draft/league rules Guru, after Sunday’s ass kicking of the Queefs, we are gonna need something to chat on until draft time, and it would be great if we had someone who knows the intricacies that we may face with a lack of CBA and pending lock-out.

NO MERCY!

by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Dec 31, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

Great points

Without a cba all circumstances are going to be tricky at best. as far as the prospects is concerns I do believe Wiz could possible be a duplicate of Satele so it wouldn’t make that much of a difference on the “O” line, That’s my opinion, as far as Moch, can he cover?
for on who to take as qb, keep in mind our Raiders are not known for developing qbs and not having a first round pick will really force Al to wait and see who falls to the fifth round or so before making a decision on that position, anyway nation have a wonderful new year, HAPPY RAIDERS NEW YEAR EVERYBODY. GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

by R8drick on Dec 31, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

BUT

we have Hue Jackson (for now) and he helped Joe Flacco a TON

NO MERCY!

by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Dec 31, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Right on Rick, Happy New Years to you too!

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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 31, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I think its too early to mention specific names

There are too many questions about next season to be worried about specific college prospects yet. We need to finish our season, see what happens with the CBA, and if there is even going to be football next year see what happens with free agency in February. Once all of those things happen then we can discuss positional needs and potential prospects.

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by LiveAdam on Dec 31, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

So much has yet to happen. I at least fully agree on positions

My question with Moch is his cover ability too. Not so impressed with that tape, but will keep an eye on the guy.

I liked his ability to get to the qb, but he got passes away and completed long strikes all too often. I’m not sure another pass rusher is what we most need.

Nonetheless, I look forward to the draft with a renewed vigor, and know we’ll come away with some difference makers, that will propel this team to the next level.

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by brhynno on Dec 31, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

The Moch guy looks great. I’d love to see him at the combine.

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by JaKe. on Dec 31, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

I have no doubets....

a CBA will be reached before the start of next year.I would love to see the Raiders get"Wiz"jr he can be moved to RG make a competition between him and Bruce Campbell for the spot.some draft boards have Nate Solder falling to Raiders in second round but i dont see that.The Raiders need to trade up,either into the first round or or NE first pick in Rd 2 to get the ‘Wiz"they need to keep that other pick in rd 2 for C K,O’ from USC or the C from TCU Kirkpatrick.Raiders need a big strong C like Barret Robbins,he was strong and 3/4 CRAZY.also would like to see Raiders pick WR Binns ,he is not fast,but he is big and strong with good hand and runs good routs,fights hard for the ball.and hay,if he doesn’t work out at WR he could be a wicked receiving TE..as for a QB,i think they should look at Troy Weatherhead from Hills dale.he dos not have a big arm,but he is accurate,has a nice touch on the ball,has a quick release,is fleet of foot and smart(there are no dummies coming out of this school.

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by raiderrob67 on Dec 31, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

im keeping an eye

on michael floyd from notre dame. the gay may fall to us in the second and no pun intended his size and hands remind me of malcolm floyd haha

by raidersfolife on Dec 31, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

Al will love Moch.

No one likes us,
No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...

"Darth Vader is a punk compared to Al Davis." - Hunter S Thompson

by Screwfish on Dec 31, 2010 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

its now official

john fox wont be returning to the panthers

by RyanTheRaider on Dec 31, 2010 4:08 PM PST reply actions  

Wiz not Steve Jr.

Stefen is Steve’s nephew.
Son of Leo Wizniewski, from Penn State and short stint with the Colts.

He looks like a good 3rd rounder.

Forget Moch and Stanzi.

Get some players that are first of all, football players (not just athletes)
and that can stop the run consistently . Perhaps bring back John Fox as the DC?

I agree with a WR like Floyd from ND.
We need a guy that can get open when the defense knows the ball is coming to him, but he still makes the grab for a first down or TD. Strong physical WR like Andre Johnson or T.O. (not TO though, only like him but quiet, like Tim Brown or Jerry Rice)

Anyone on the current roster who can do that? I am not aware of one.

by R8rnation on Dec 31, 2010 5:50 PM PST reply actions  

yea,i know

Wiz is not a Jr,easeyer than saying my sisters brothers couisen.lol i dont think he will fall to the 3rd rd NE and colts will be looking for O-linemen.

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by raiderrob67 on Dec 31, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

another CB ?

Call the Routt project a failure and more on.
Opposite of Nnamdi Asomugha, we also need another shut down corner.
LSU’s Patrick Peterson is exactly that.
Chris Johnson isn’t bad but if he isn’t healthy, we need someone else there.
The question is, how high in the draft will he go?
We might not have a shot at him without trading up.
Is he worth it?

by R8rnation on Dec 31, 2010 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

All of the mocks I have list Patterson anywhere fom #2-10

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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 31, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Overall

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 31, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Without a first rounder ,,,,,

We have to look at a mid second round pick or later unless we trade up.
(Seymour trade 1st round to the Pats)

That would be like a “Ricky Williams deal”.
Trade the entire draft for a #2-10 overall pick?
I don’t see that happening.
Too many needs to fill.

by R8rnation on Dec 31, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Get Great

Offensive linemen regardless of where they come from, draft or trade!!!!!

by Realtooreal on Dec 31, 2010 6:31 PM PST reply actions  

Gabe Carimi, Demarcus Love.

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No one likes us,
We're the Raiders and we don't care...

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by Screwfish on Dec 31, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember that Larry Fitzgerald is a free agent!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 31, 2010 6:34 PM PST reply actions  

Fitz would be great!

As would V Jack from the bolts.
Plaxico will be back also.
I would like to see 2 of them in Silver and Black next year.

by R8rnation on Dec 31, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

V Jack would have poison in his blood for the Chokers:

That would be nice!

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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 31, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a CB and OL are top priority

Ideally I’d get a CB, and a C within the first 2-3 rounds (hopefully the Raiders can get back into the 1st). I feel really good about their D-Line, as I think Scott, Houston and Shaughnessy are 3 really good DE’s.

Or…. put a package together for another 2nd round pick, acquire Crick from Nebraska with that 2nd rounder, move Scott to OLB. Let Huff go, move Branch to FS with the idea of Mitchell as the SS (he really loves to hit people).

With the O-Line… I really would love to see the Raiders get Carimi and put him over at RT. Wisnewski would be pretty damn awesome at C, but if he’s gone by the time the Raiders get a pick, then O’Dowd from USC would also be a solid pick.

I believe that Bruce Campbell will take over RG next year, so another C and a T will be what the Raiders aregoing to shoot for.

by John Oglesby on Jan 1, 2011 1:06 AM PST reply actions  

wow

you obvously dont know what your talking about,CB isnt a priority, OL and OLB are priority’s.Branch cant cover so why make him a FS?

by RyanTheRaider on Jan 1, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

TCU's Tank Carder looked good.

Not just the blocked 2pt conversion, but all game he looked pretty good.
First time I had seen him play. Looks like a tough, fast, and instinctive LB.
Looks a bit small (6-2, 232) but reminded me of Bill Romonowski.

Andy Dalton (QB) looked solid also (future backup?)

by R8rnation on Jan 1, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

he did look good

but thats the first time i ever heard of him, so i dont really know how good he is. if we draft a qb it should be someone who can be a starter for us in a few years

by RyanTheRaider on Jan 2, 2011 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

That's what Dalton's upside is...

That you haven’t heard of him doesn’t change that. ‘Name’ players aren’t the only ones to look at…

As far as DB not being a need, the stats can be misleading; teams were able to run on us fairly regularly, and therefore didn’t really need to pass for much yardage. When they did pass, they scorched the defense (San Diego-431/2 TD’s, Pittsburgh-275/3 TD’s, Miami-307/2 TD’s, Garrard and Manning both threw for 3 TD’s with less than 200 yards, and San Diego hit us in the second game for another 280/1 TD). In every loss after the bye, teams were able to put up yards and/or TD’s easily, as well as run the ball.

I’d say that DB and/or S is a concern.

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by signcut on Jan 3, 2011 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Oakland Raiders 2k11 Draft....

The Raiders have several needs , but none more glaring than a DB to play opposite of Asomugah.. Hence , Nebraska DB Amukumara is definitely worthy of serious consideration , if available. Plus, those two names together even sounds scary…….Asomugah and Amukumara….. I also believe that we could use D. Mcnabb, who will not be with the skins next season. Keep one of QB’S currently on the roster as a backup…Probably Campbell, and pick up a future prospect in the late rounds. At this point, it seems we have no real #1 reciever, and a bunch 2’s and 3’s. Either by FA signing or trade, we need some help there.

by E Money on Jan 1, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

Amukumara will be gone by the time we pick

I would take a serious look at a Fitz or Vjax and use to draft to fix CB and OLB

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by hero66 on Jan 1, 2011 7:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Amukumara will be selected in 1st round

Look at CB’s that will be available in the 2nd round. Aaron Williams of Texas is projected to be available in the 2nd round. So is Jimmy Smith of Colorado.

WLB is a nother need to address. Look for Boston College OLB Mark Herzlich as a potential 3rd rounder. Pouncey and Wisnewski will both be off the board by then, but USC’s O’Dowd should still be available in the middle rounds. There’s also a C from Oregon State whose name has been mentioned on draft boards as well

by Il guapo on Jan 2, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

For the record...

I like the look of Wisniewski, but I think that he will be gone late first early second, well before we pick.

A replay of a previous post:

2nd – a) Wisniewski b) Krisotopher O’Dowd (depending on medical) c) DT Jerrel Powe or Jarel Worthy

3rd – If C taken before, DT Sione Fua; if DT, C Jake Kirkpatrick

4th – DB a) Shareece Wright b) Johnny Patrick

5th – QB Andy Dalton

6th – S a) Tyler Sash b) Delano Howell

7th – any number of players could fit here

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by signcut on Jan 3, 2011 7:32 AM PST reply actions  

I'm not high on Stanzi and Wisniewski is far and away the best center prospect on the board.

He may not make it past our rivals STD or KC and definitely will not be there by the time NE picks at the end of the 1st rd. Too many teams like this guy not just because of pedigree but because he can play.

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by TAW on Jan 3, 2011 9:35 AM PST reply actions  

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