NFL Scores Week 13: Just Another Raiders' Victory Over The Chargers
by Rich Langford on Dec 6, 2010 3:41 AM PST
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The article is over there <-----. It's not really, I just didn't want Antwan Applewhite to read it until it was almost over.
Well, I certainly didn't see that kind of game playing out. At least not one that ended in a Raiders' victory. I don't think many people really did. Just a victory seemed like wishful thinking, but complete domination on both sides of the ball against a team ranked first in total yards in offense and defense would've been downright delusional. Looking back on it, we should have expected nothing less. Not because the matchups dictated it, but because this is the way the season has gone.
If you take a look at our handy fan poll meter you find the three lowest points of the season after the losses to the Cardinals, 49ers and Dolphins and rightfully so. They were all bad losses. After each loss, it was back to the sentiment that this was the same ol' Raiders. After each one, we felt progressively worse about this team and it left the team with a do or die situation the following week.
That makes three times this season that the Raiders have taken the field with the perception that they need to win or the season is over and all three times that game came against an AFC West rival. Every time, the Raiders have shown they are not going to be written off this year.
It's a sign of resiliency and showing we're not a team that gives up.
That's what Nnamdi Asomugha had to say about his team after the latest "we're back from the dead" victory. These are not the kinds of phrases that have been meant for the Raiders in a long time. A time that spans Asomugha's eight year Raiders' career. That resiliency has led to the Raiders finding themselves in situations they haven't had since Rolando McClain was in the 8th grade. Asomugha:
There were so many firsts for me today, I don't think I can account for them all.
One of the firsts didn't come until the final horn sounded and a six could be found under the Raiders' win column.
It's a beautiful thing.... Six wins is great for us, but we have bigger goals than six wins. We've gotta do more than that.
Nnamdi wasn't the only one stressing that the work on this season is not done. With the Chiefs 10-6 victory over the Broncos, the Raiders failed to gain any ground in the division and, at two games back with only four to go, they don't have much room for failure. Just ask Michael Bush:
...it's a playoff mindset from here on out, because every game is big.
Of course, Nnam and Bush are just following the lead of Tom Cable. Cable:
We're at a point at (6-6) where we have got to come out and win, period.
Just like his team, Cable is proving to be the coach you can't write off. I was fairly certain last week that he was in the process of losing this team, but it appears he still has their ears. Don't believe me? Well, you don't have to. Richard Seymour:
We faltered a little bit (the last two weeks), but we have good leadership.
All of these positive vibrations are resonating from the can of whoop ass that the Raiders opened on the Chargers. And it was all possible, not because of an exotic game plan or trick plays, but because this team did what they do when they are playing good. Robert Gallery can tell you what that is. Gallery:
We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth
And get back to it, they did. There was no battle in the trenches. The Raiders owned the trenches and then they moved them about three-yards deep into San Diego's side. It was easily the best game played by the offensive line. They only allowed one sack and that sack was on a scramble and slide for zero yards. The line gave Campbell enough time to get comfortable, survey the field and, when no one was open, scramble for key yards. While Campbell's running was clutch, it can not be overstated that this is not possible if the line doesn't give the offense enough time to stretch the field out.
Defensively, the Raiders' line allowed them to execute the perfect game plan. The Raiders shut down the run game so emphatically, that the Chargers essentially stopped trying. They ended the day with just 21 yards on eight carries. Eight carries? Really? I have no idea when the last time a team attempted only eight carries against the Raiders.
When Philip Rivers was passing, the line was getting enough pressure that John Marshall hardly had to dial up the blitz. All of which frustrated poor Philip Rivers, who torched the Raiders with the deep pass in their Week Four contest. Rivers:
They had safeties that were about 30 yards deep. They certainly made it tough on us. It's easier for them to make it tough on you when they know you're going to throw it almost every play.
Rivers may have been getting in a little jab at the play calling and it may have been warranted due in no small part to Rivers' own play. Phil missed on throws you don't expect him to miss on. While he took his share of hits, many of those throws were early enough that they came while his jersey was still relatively clean. Maybe the coaches were trying to force the passing game into rhythm, but when it was faltering early, it was surprising they didn't try to run the ball more and it was even more surprising they didn't put in Ryan Mathews. Mathews was the only Charger back to find success against the Raiders in Week Four, but he never got off the bench in this contest.
The defensive game plan was equally baffling. The Raiders ran the ball 52 times, yet the Chargers never got into the "you are going to have to throw it to beat us mode." Typically, they tried to stop the run with just the front seven and it just wasn't enough bodies. It's not that they weren't looking for the run. This was wildly apparent on the play fakes that left the Raiders with walk in touchdowns and easy plays. In fact on some plays, the Chargers actually had 12 men on the field biting on the play fakes.
Enough blabbing about the Chargers mistakes. For my money, given the opponent and the physical dominance, this was the most impressive game the Raiders have played this year....let's just get onto the bullet points.
- Rolando McClain: Death Ro' played his most complete game of the season. He was not caught out of position, was solid in run support and he leveled a legal statement hit that knocked Darren Sproles temporarily out of reality. What most impressed me about Rolando though was his defense of the underneath passes to the RBs. He was quick to find the RBs slipping out of the backfield and then made great tackles when they did catch it. These are the kinds of one-on-one tackles that we have seen Raiders' LBs either not be in position for or miss for years. The kind that turn simple dump-offs into big gains.
- Samson Satele: Satele also played his best game of the season. Many of the Raiders runs were right up the middle. Satele was getting a good enough push that the Raiders guards were free to move onto block LBs.
- LaMarr Houston: So much for the rookie wall. Houston is playing better every game and his game is evolving. He has learned how to help shut down the run as an end, he is getting pressure and he is playing more snaps then ever. He even got a sack from his more familiar DT position this game on a straight bull rush.
- Dike McBush: This was really the first game that the two-headed monster was in full-effect. The two backs complimented each other beautifully. Bush, who has had better games statistically, had his most impressive game. He seemed to finally fully embrace his role as the power runner. He hit the line and moved it, when there was no hole.
- Jason Campbell: When your team runs the ball like the Raiders did, it is easy to play QB. Still, Campbell did everything the Raiders asked of him and then some. He showed great field awareness and he was channeling Steve DeBerg on the play actions. The biggest contributions by Campbell were actually by his legs. After the game Campbell admitted to his motivation to scramble. Campbell:
Watching Cam Newton at Auburn, I had to go back to my Auburn days and make some plays with my feet.
Smart move by Campbell. If he keeps playing like this, he might be able to hold out for the kind of money Newton has made.
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I voted for McClain
He is going from strength and he was patrolling the field like a prison guard today and that hit on Sproles was awesome.
IMO the best play of the game was Bush’s TD run but Run DMc’s was pretty great as well. Really liked Stevie Browns game. JC 5-1 and ths is probably the most confidence have had in him but he is totally reliant on how the O-Lne plays.
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+1
And I think Brown may be our best free safety… Guy has a nose for the ball
Overall he Stevie had a good game, but there was that one play where he missed a great opportunity to drill Floyd in the ribs
but leaped in the air instead.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Pitt Game
I dont think we should judge this team by the Pitt game. They look freakishly good. They’re going at least (I literally mean at least) to the AFC championship game. That defense is just down right filthy.
With that being said….it seems like this team moves the ball better with JC in the game and I think that has something to do with the fact that the opposing team’s D has to account for the threat of the deep ball so the box is not crowded which in turn helps our run game and in turn helps the play action, and so on and so forth…
Houston is a beast, he gets my vote.
Probably the only Raiders game I’ve watched all season that I was excited and not nervous for every play on Offense and Defense (I didn’t get to watch the two blowout wins earlier in the season).
The Raiders might be wildly inconsistent, and some of the losses are embarrassing, but this team has the ability to not only beat, but dominate any team in the NFL. They’ll have to be perfect down the stretch to have a shot at the playoffs, but even if this team finishes 8-8 and misses the playoffs, you have to be very excited about next year.
I did too
Campbell had his best game as a Raider by far, and deserves acclaim for it, but I voted for Houston because it wouldn’t be right to overlook his great all-around game—and many people will because the QB always gets the most attention.
@WorldBLee
Stellar game all around.
I’m loving it. It’s great to see them playing at that leve.
The unfortunately reality is that they haven’t week in and week out. We’ve left some wins on the field that we should have locked away. The 3 games you mentioned (ARI, SF, MIA) may very well come back to haunt us now.
We need some help in the next 3 weeks. I will be a SD, STL, and TEN fan in the next 3 weeks respectively. And we have to hold our own during that time as well. We need one more win than the Cheifs in the next 3 weeks. Then we need to beat them like we did before. Do that and we’re playoff bound.
Funny....
from espn.com
“Things got so bad in San Diego on Sunday that late in the game, when only jubilant Raiders fan remained in the stadium, San Diego’s cheerleading squad was loudly booed during its final number of a forgettable day for the home team.”
Went with Jason whose ball handling and execution was markedly better than I'd ever seen from him
In a way, Jason is representative of this whole team, i.e. a lot of talent that appears and disappears from week to week. Even if the Chargers were a bit flat coming off the Colts victory, we still played our best football with our back to the wall. If the Raiders could just stay hungry they’d devastate everything in their path.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
Jason never looked better!
That’s the best I’ve ever seen him play and I watched a bunch of his Washington games.
You hit it on the head with the “hunger” comment as well. I can excuse a game or two a year when you’re flat agaianst a superior team (Titans, Pitt) or something flukey happens (Arizona) but games like SF and Miami are really inexcusable. I hope that they have learned what they should have from those games and from their victories like yesterday. The need to come out and enforce their will. If they do, they stand a chance to beat any team they play.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I think we can count on the Raiders
To be up for the divisional games now. In past seasons, they weren’t, and it must have driven Al crazy. This year, we’ve fallen flat outside the division (only two wins outside the division!), but we’ve taken care of business against our division rivals.
@WorldBLee
I think the 6-6 record feels better than usual
because we’ve beaten up on our division. We’ve been the punching bag for so long, it’s great to see our guys smash the other teams in the division. It’s good to see these guys take pride in these matchups and play their best games of the year in the most important games. Hopefully it will start to translate into being more consistant in games outside or divsion (starting with Sunday).
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
and deplete their rosters significantly, along with their spirits...
Teams continue to suck following playing us. Miami lost a nailbiter to the Browns. This tilts the odds ever so slightly against SD this week.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I was shocked Miami lost that game.
It’s not like the Raiders spent a lot of time beating on them! The NFL is a screwy world.
Nice quotes! Have you heard the tale of Hunter wanting to do a story on the Raiders, but Al wouldn’t let him anywhere near the players? Probably a wise choice, as it very easily could have led to Stabler quitting football to cover stories with Dr. Gonzo.
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 6, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
But wasn't it Kenny on that infamous Vegas road trip?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 7, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions
Adrenechrome may have been the Snake's secret
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 7, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
First time!
not sure I’d want Hunter S. near my team of professional players, either! Ken would indeed have made an appropriate sidekick for him.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Nasty!
hit on sproles by Death Ro. This was such a great game to watch from a Raider fan perspective, makes me wonder how good our record actually should have been. AZ and SF should have been wins…..Mia just flat out beat us, but they are not a great team. Still have an outside shot of doing some damage, we just gotta TCOB….and hope KC losses.
I was thinking the Same Damn Thing!!!!
We should be 9-3 !!! Those 3 games !!!! Would’ve, Should’ve, Could’ve… right !!! But going over those games, and looking at the overall play !!! There’s enough blame to go around, starting with the coaching staff !!! 3 games of very bad play calling by both cood’s !!! I think the Coach’s took those teams likely, more than the players did !!! Poor Game Plans, and player Indecision, especially the Miami game. I think the poor game planning, played into poor player performance !!!! JC’s comment is ringing in my head, “Just not too sure what’s going on, I just have to ready as best I can”!!! Cable may have another year too prove himself, if they finish 8-8 !!! And if he does stay, he and his staff have to get better, more than anything else !!!
Let's hope the coaches don't revert to such playcalling that stifles, and doesn't play to the strengths...
of our guys. No doubt, it happened in those games, and you could see the players running around lacking direction. When they’re given a great game plan they know can work, it’s all about execution on the field.
I fear we’ll see a little more inconsistency, but that every time we hit another milestone, we put a little bit more of the ups and downs in the past. The players have a leg to stand on regarding the results when we utilize our playmakers and don’t emphasize their weaknesses, and can offer valuable input back to the coaches in practice and during game film sessions.
We must keep growing; I feel it’s happening, but will still have some growing pains.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
LaMarr Houston
Had his best game as a pro, and he’s just scratching the surface. He and McClain will be the face of our defense for the next decade, and they’re good faces to have. Ro played well, too, but I still think he’s playing just a little to fast. The game is starting the slow down for both of them, though, and their best football is down the road.
Campbell was great, but this game goes to the OL and Hue for setting the “we’re going to punch you in the mouth and keep punching you in the mouth” tone. Just a great day to be a Raiders fan.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
Two things prevent me from going ballistic negative against Cable, the divisional wins and that 2010 Draft Class
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions
What about the success of the run game?
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 6, 2010 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
I'm giving Hue credit for that; we had the wherewithal to do that last year and squandered it away
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 7, 2010 6:37 AM PST up reply actions
I have to give Tom some credit.
I think the line is over-performing their talent level. I also agree that Hue has helped too.
Does this look as bad as it looks?
by Rich Langford on Dec 7, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Bringing in Reece was huge. The man does it all, leads Darren through and hammers LBs, great hands and
open field running – whatever he’s asked to do. Again, that goes to the offseason acquisitions for which Tom should get his share of credit. After Miami my mind wandered towards the offseason and the possibility for another A-grade draft and UDFA/FA rampage … but after StD I realize there’s still hope.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 7, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
man i still love seeing that McClain hit
he is getting better and better with every week
LETS GO RED WINGS!
2011 will be the year....better be....
Troy Tulowitzki: "When people think of the Rockies, I want them to think of a winning organization."
I voted for McClain...
…but only because Routt wasn’t an option. The Chargers game-plan against the Raiders is to try and exploit Routt, which they tried to do, and he may not have looked great on every play at him, but he never allowed the Chargers to put together a big-time attack.
Fathaigh go mbuaimid!
I AM PAT BURRELLZ'Z DADDY! (wait, that doesn't sound right)
Job 1:14-15
Voted for Campbell ...
The play-action bomb to Murphy on 3rd and 1 in the fourth that fooled the cameraman and all 12 of the Chargers … and basically put the game away for us … that was a thing of beauty. Not saying Campbell is a great QB, but the great QB’s for the most part do an excellent job of selling fakes, and JC did just so yesterday.
Besides some awesome play fakes, he also made no glaring mistakes, consistently nimbly avoided the rush, ran for a bunch of nice gains when the throws weren’t there …
Granted it makes it easy for a QB to look good when he’s got the rushing mojo going and he’s not playing from behind, but still … If I have to pick a single person (as opposed to just the whole team, all of which played pretty excellent), I have to say he was our MVP of this game.
Now if we could just get out of Jekyll and Hyde mode, come out and play this way every week, and show an ability to get wins against AFC teams that AREN’T in our own division (which we’ve yet to do this year) … we might actually have something here :)
While all candidates deserve accolades
the sudden resurgence of the offense with Dike McBush, had Jason looking like a commanding presence.
I really can say enough about this:
Jason Campbell: When your team runs the ball like the Raiders did, it is easy to play QB. Still, Campbell did everything the Raiders asked of him and then some. He showed great field awareness and he was channeling Steve DeBerg on the play actions. The biggest contributions by Campbell were actually by his legs. After the game Campbell admitted to his motivation to scramble.
Just take a second to watch the execution on these fakes; the bootleg was just as pretty. Both times, even the cameramen got faked out completely: JASON CAMPBELL, MINDFREAK
I blasted this guy for coming out flat against Pittsburgh; I’ll ride his jockstrap in praise now. How ’bout keeping it up weekly, my man?
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I posted an ugly prediction on Friday and I'm pleased I was proven wrong.
I won’t vote for one as it was a team effort including the coaching staff. Great win and by far the most impressive of the season. This team needs to recognize they win when they out-muscle their opponent. This should be the standard for Raiders teams going forward. That includes the off-season. Build through the offensive line and defense. Correct any glaring weaknesses on those two sides of the ball and any solid QB can manage the game.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
+1
It appears a very solid foundation is in place, after all. Physical, physical, physical, must be the staple of this teams’ success. Smash mouth for sixty minutes. SD’s injury list just doubled, and teams continue to lose after they play us, with Miami being no exception. Save for SD’s soft remaining schedule, they may just come up short too.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Yeah TAW I had my doubts too.......
Glad to eat my words! BUT , I also said we were gonna have to run like we’ve never run before if we were going to win. Give the “D” time to rest and play strong and use the run to set up the pass. We did,we won. I’m quitting my job in Wyoming to become “the managing general partner to the assistant head coaches assisitant” for the Oakland Raiders. Seriously, noon’s right -easily the best job the “O” lines done this year. I voted for Bush because in the latter part of the game his efforts (with help from Dmac) kept Rivers off the field and our “D” fresh when he did come in.
Best Coaching moment? When Cable threw the challenge flag on an obvious reception. I knew why he did it when he did. It broke the chargers momentum and rested our “D”. When he turned and winked after the ruling he gained a shit load of respect from me, I honestly didn’t think he had it in him.
The success of the running game allowed us to control the clock,keep Rivers off the field and allowed our “D” to play smash mouth for 60 minutes instead of 30. Proud as always to be a member of Raider Nation. R.F.F.R.
Wouldn't say that we 'owned the trenches'
A good enough job for the OL, but it wasn’t like they were blasting guys off the line, which is why most of the rushes were for 3, 4, maybe 5 yards: contact at or near the LOS, and either push the pile or make a move in traffic. What set up that great day on the ground was forcing the defense to respect misdirection and play-action by using them effectively, keeping the LB’s from immediately filling the gaps and stuffing the run, or risk a big play.
It took what hadn’t been seen the last few weeks: a better effort form the OL, and the willingness of Jackson to stick with the run, even when it was not tearing up the field. Moving the ball, yes; big plays, none from the RB’s until the third quarter.
Not to say that I wasn’t happy enough with the play of the OL, but I’m not going to see what wasn’t there.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
That's the way smash-mouth football works.
You continue to churn out 3 to 5 yard gains and move the chains. Eventually the D tires and starts giving up big gains late in the game. We have grown accustomed to being on the other end of that so we aren’t used to this. It looks like AJ Smith cutting LT and this move to a more passing, finesse type of offense is the best thing to happen to the Raiders. We are now the type of team the Chargers and Broncos don’t want to play. The only team in the division that matches up well with us would be KC.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
I think you hit the nail on the head
Both Denver and SD have moved away from the running game, and it’s why a) the Broncos suck, and b) even if they make the playoffs SD will continue to lose. KC is a tougher battle for us—hopefully, it will still matter when we play them and we’ll come out fighting hard.
Teams that play smashmouth football better than we do, i.e., Pittsburgh, still appear to have our number.
@WorldBLee
Pretty good today, BUT........
I feel what u’r saying Signcut. 2 or 3 more players for the O-line, considering they keep 9 to10, minus 2, maybe 3 that are here now, that need to fill out for unemployment, at the end of the season, you know who I’m taking about, add 2 good FA’s, and 4 future prospects, and I think we’ll be all good !!! But there one hitch in this thinking that has to be address. Cable is supposedly an O-Line Guru !!! Let’s face it, HE’S NO GURU , hence the problem !! If he stays as the head Coach, will his ego allow him to bring in a “GOOD” O-line coach, or does he think he’s done a good enough job to working with the line?? Truefully, since this was the position he was brought in too fix “3 yrs.” ago, and it’s still the weak link of the team, even though they showup and runblock, but pass protection Is the BIG PROBLEM !!! This is a passing league, and this group can’t cut it !!!!!
Here's my opinion, FWIW...
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/12/5/1856279/with-almost-3-4-of-the-season-gone
That would be signing a free agent now, and drafting a C; 2 new players, and setting up the line for years…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
+1
Totally agree signcut; it all begins and ends with effective play by the offensive line! There is still room for our OL to improve with every game from this point, until there is no more opponents to punch-in-the-mouth!!!! and punch-tf-back-hardest once we are hit!!!! GO RAIDERS!!!! …Stay Hungry and ‘Horngry’ my friends!
JASON CAMPBELL!!!
He may not be the best quarterback in the league but he’s the best we have. No more switching out between him and Grad. He confirmed that yesterday. We gotta sink or swim with Jason this season. Hopefully we stay afloat…
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"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Voted JC.... Thought that fucker was going to cough up the ball if he were to be sacked.
He showed me I was wrong (for now); Second vote would be the O-line.
The RaiderLaker
So now can we stop getting on JC after today for every tiny little thing?
He’s 5-1.
Also Death Ro earned that nickname
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
by dubzfan on Dec 6, 2010 11:43 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
He's 5-3 actually.
He’s got a much better record than Gradkowski, I’ll give you that (1-3) but at least be accurate in your assessments. As for papbegoode’s comments, you’re right on. This team needs to make LT it’s primary focus in the off-season. I would prefer we go after the best available and give them whatever they ask for whether it be via free agency or trade and then try for a center in the 2nd Rd of the draft. Also another pass rusher or OLB would be the next step considering the team could use an upgrade alongside Rolando and also who knows how long the rehab on Scott’s knee will take. Improve both front lines to make both the team’s strengths and this team can win with Campbell.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
He lost to the Titans, niners and Steeler your right my bad
I like Veldheer at LT, RT maybe? Center?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
This team's answer at LT hasn't arrived yet.
I like Veldheer but think he would be a natural fit at RT with lesser pass rushers to deal with as well as a right-handed QB not having to worry too much about happy feet. He has good quickness and with a full year of NFL experience can be the answer there. I think this team needs to go after the bar-none best LT available via free agency and bid all available assets for him. Whether it be via free agency or trade it has to be priority number 1. This team’s strength has been realized and that is physicallity. They need to address that 1st. The receivers they have here are servicable if the QB has time to throw and a great running game to create those one on one match-ups. Drafting a center in the 2nd rd should be priority number 2. Wisnewski would be an upgrade over Satele who can be kept for depth.
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by TAW on Dec 7, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting note
I was at the Dolphins game, and had to bite my tongue frequently as Raiduh fan after Raiduh fan evinced their undying support for Gradkowski and his “intangibles” and “ability to make things happen”. Long story short, I was enthused about JC since the trade was announced, and despite some early struggles, haven’t been able to figure out why he hasn’t been out-right embraced and handed the reigns. This game, while definitely a peak and shouldn’t be expected as the norm, is a great example of why he should be the unquestioned starter barring injury. He commanded respect from the Charger’s D and his O line, and made smart plays. As a backup, Gradkowski’s an excellent option, but I like JC as the starter and can’t imagine why there would be a QB controversy in Oakland. JC has shown time and time again that he can get the job done…
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Why he got to be a Fucker, Jagger ???
You’ve been wrong, all damn year about him, because of your mancrush with Gradz !!! You think maybe with better pass protection from a better Oline, JC’s passing #’s would be better !!!! Come to think of it, Manning, Brady, Brees, Flacco, Ryan, and even Phyliss have one thing in common………An above Decent Oline in front of them !!! Not saying JC, will be a Brees, or Manning, but with a decent pass protection, and receivers, THAT CATCH THE DAMN BALL, he will make plays for us !!!
Well duh!!!!! That's what i've been saying! OMG papa, you blind propaganda spewer!
I’ve always said that JC would be the better choice if we have a better O-line or when this current O-line dominates at times versus certain opponents.
He wasn’t before so I chose Grads, but thanks to the line JC played awesome!
Sad that you have to bring this up in an attempt to fight with me. We won, but did you?
The RaiderLaker
It's games like these....
that make me pound my head against a brick wall.when i watch games like Pitt and Miami.where was this team in those games?to know that the Raiders can play the way they played yesterday and then to watch them SUCK A## vs miami and the F’ing whinners makes me want to pluck my eyes out.I think that this game proves that winning football takes desire.it is not just enough to show up and do your job.no matter how well prepared you are or what game plan you use.those are still required eliments,but when it comes to two teams nearly equile in those aspects meeting,the team with the will to overcome the opponents abilities when come out on top.The Raiders as a team just wanted this one more than the charger’s.
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
PITT
cant really blame them for the PITT game. PITT is down right scary and you just gotta hang your hat to them. Ravens only score like 10 points.
But yea, games like Miami and SF kinda make you pissed.
by word2bigbird on Dec 6, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, and they couldn'd run on Pitt either
no one can.
by KiwiRaiderFan on Dec 6, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
They're good, but not as good as we made them look. We were flat and unimaginative. I feel the same way as raiderrob
and it’s frustrating because it’s more about the moral and mental part – game strategy and emotion – than anything else … except perhaps Asom1’s being out and then playing hurt was a factor but not so drastic as to result in the Pitt & Miami horrors.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
True, it's all about motivation with this team
We still have yet to prove however, that we can win when the run game is neutralized. San Diego (for whatever reason) can’t stop our run game. Same players as when we’ve been stymied and mostly the same plays, with a few awesome wrinkles thrown in. Until we prove that we are capable of winning when the run game is stopped, we will be unable to take the next step in our NFL revival.
I hope they are working on that deficiency in practice.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
SD was arrogant enough to assume they could just line up with 7 against us and stop the run.
Instead of loading the box they chose to play the same 3-4 style they did against the Broncos and the Colts with little success. 251 yards and 3 rushing TDs is incredible though. I hope the Raiders recognize this as the formula going forward and dictate to their opponents what they want to do going forward.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
The most important part of the offense was...
All of Oakland’s offensive weapons were utilized. This was a perfect example of how to use Bush. DMac does not have to be used on every down and it shows that at the right opportune times Bush can be even more dangerous. Marcel did a little head stomping (and jumping)! The end-arounds by DHB and Ford were mixed in well, etc. The receiving corps did some damage of their own. The attack was so well balanced I was left in awe. This is how the offense is supposed to play football. Nice job Hugh.
Jason kicked ass. He controlled the game and once again, proved many doubters here wrong.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
No doubt, thanks to the line playing great. JC looked incredible. Al needs to get more talentd bodies for the
O-line in order for us to dominate. With this current O-line, we will lose against the very top teams.
The RaiderLaker
I got one gripe
They need to use the receivers more, and more deep passes of 15-20 yards. It seems like if the correct routes are used then JC has the time to make the pass.
Crap, I forgot to mention Chaz!
I am sure it felt great for him to get on the field and then even better to leave without injury!
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 6, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully, he'll be able to contribute by the end of this year
Or at least be healthy enough that he could be a factor next year.
@WorldBLee
RaiderDamus got it wrong again
But of course, the mob may be after me if I continue my sparkling record, they can’t just keep giving me money you know.
Well I just wanted to say, hats off to our Raiders for absolutely demolishing the Dolts on their “home” turf.
Also, I remember after the draft in April we were all laughing at the Jacoby Ford pick, because while we LOVED the first three rounds when we picked Ford it was all “Oh here’s a typical Al Davis selection, nothing but a speed guy.” Well, yeah, but I’d say Jacoby Ford is playing the best out of all our rookies and seems to be Campbell’s preferred target, meaning our laugher pick is now our #1 receiver.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
lol i should be the RaiderDamus apprentice winner with my pick. oh well, maybe next time
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by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 6, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
We still need KC to lose 2 games and we still have to practically win-out the season.
Im not saying its not possible, but im not satified with 6-6, the world is not enough for me. Im not trying to be a buzz kill by any means, but if things play out the way i want them to, i suspect/hope for a wk 16 epic tie breaker with the Chiefs.
Kudos to the Raiders and my Raider brethren.
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Not a great position to be in
the Miami loss took our destiny out of our hands. We have to gain a game on the Chiefs in the next 3 weeks to go into the finale with a shot at the division on the line. Even though we just went through a though stretch our finish will be the toughest of the 3 teams. We do own the tie breakers (by owning the division head to head), so the hope is to have a shot going into the last game of the season.
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
No doubt dude, That Miami game was truely a Bizarro game!
I was ok losing to Pitt, but for the love of gawd i have no idea what happened in the Miami game. It was like we was watching Doppleganger raiders team that didnt either prepare, or came into the game over confident. I would over confidence wasnt the case being that technically we havent done anything to be over confident about. I love having my team being competitive in December, but i hate that even winning games wont get us in the post season, we have rely on KC losing, which means they are in more control of our destiny than we are.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 6, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
KC only has to lose one, if we win out.
because one lose will come against us in week 17. We already hold all the tiebreakers with KC. If we win out and KC loses one we win the division. That week 17 game will be for all the marbles though. I’d feel a lot better if KC lost 2 before we play week 17
I was really hoping Denver would have a better showing in their game against the Queefs, pussies!
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Bye Bye Josh Mcdaniels...
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Hoodie Jr. has been dismissed
LOL, so much for those dysfunctional Raiders…who’d have thought the Cable Era in Oakland would outlast the Mcdaniels era in Denver? hahahahah
We don't take kindly to folks that don't take kindly around here.
Not sure if this is good or bad ...
Normally I’d say it’s good, but given the success of the teams that have fired their coaches this year, and the fact that we’ll no doubt need to beat Denver again this year …
by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 6, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
It's a bad thing for us football wise
Mcdaniels was the gift of a gm/coach who was both a bad coach and gm in one. I don’t know that if I as a Raiderfan were to be given the Broncos org that I’d do a better job of taking apart a fairly competitive team and purposefully turn it into a cellar dwellar in 2 years time. It’s fun pointing and laughing at the Broncos (well, because it is), but this was the right move for them (unfortunately 2 weeks to early). Maybe they’ll hire Singletary…he wants winners! They may go WCO shopping and try to get Gruden though…that would suck.
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Can Tim Tebow play now?
McD was an absolute train wreck. He was to the Broncos what Mike Dunleavy was to the Clippers- ruining the team in both personnel and execution.
But for God’s sake if my boy Tebow doesn’t get more PT with this I will shit a brick.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
I was reading that Tebow could be done in the NFL
and that most of the NFL believes Tebow is not a real NFL QB and that his mechanics are going to be a constant problem. Also since he couldn’t crack the line up of a team playing that poorly, with a head coach that’s a Tebow guy. That won’t be viewed as a good sign either.
Tebow could be sipping sizzurp with JaFatass come next year.
If we could get him for nothing I would be interested in having him on the Raiders, even if he washes out as a QB he might make an good TE
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
In the words of Eric Cartmenez
‘No, No, No..if you cheat and lose your a cheater, but, if you cheat and win, your Savvy!’
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 6, 2010 3:44 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
how do I reach these keeeeds?
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by RDreamer on Dec 6, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice!, but how do u apply pics to a message? i havent figured that out yet
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by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 6, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
there is a little green picture of a tree directly above the text box
Simply click on that, then paste the URL of the image you desire. Note that the pic must be hosted online, and cannot simply be something from your hard drive.
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Rec to both of you good sirs!
Nobody's perfect. ...Well, there was this one guy once, but we killed him.
by Rich Langford on Dec 6, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Starve the offensive line
if that is what it will take to have them, at least, perform admirably. We still are not out of danger with this uncertain line! Every game for us at this point is a playoff game; if only we can get the offensive line into the program of consistent smash-mouth, we shall win it all. The smart dominant teams are the big winners this year.
Voted for Jason
who finally seems to becoming acclimated to the wishes of Bay Area sports fans.
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ahh shit i did it wrong
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 6, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
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damit wrong again
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
So basically
We run the ball or we die. Guess we’d better keep better keep a lot of blockers up front.
Yes,we run the ball or lose.
We have seen two different scenarios over the last 2 weeks against two good teams. In the Miami game we allowed our defense to stay on the field for almost 3 quarters of the game , they tired and the last long run by doobie Williams sums it up- we were physically beaten. Versus San Diego our offense was on the field for 2/3 of the game and the “D” for 1/3. Despite injuries this kept us fresh enough to keep sustained pressure on Rivers when they did get back on the field.
I LOVED watching the Raiders with the ball in the 4th quarter ,Bush running up the gut for 4-5 yds a pop and the C.B.S. camera man flashing over to the Chargers sideline and panning in on River’s anguished face as time was being eaten off the clock-first down after first down. We have possibly the best running back tandem in the league , and we now know that our “O” line has the capability to step up against what is a damn good run defense. Can we ever expect any less having seen what the top end of our club produces? I’m looking for 3 wins in the next 3 weeks,a K.C. loss and the last game of the year being played for the division title. That’s all I want for Christmas. R.F.F.R.
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