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A Couple Community Reminders


Gonna keep the intro short so not to take up space. Just posting a few rule reminders that I felt needed restated.

Read on please

Star-divide

1. The difference between fanshot and fanpost-

A fanshot is something like a link to an article, a video, a photo, or something you're interested in and want to share with the community here at S&BP. Things like these are to be kept in the fanshots section unless they're part of some piece like an article or musing.

Articles and musings are where fanposts are to be kept and just that. Things like images, videos, and links are to be kept in fanshots only unless they're just part of a writing piece. Please adhere to this as we'd like to keep the fanpost for articles and other such things and relatively unflooded of what should be fanshots.

2. No racism-

In no shape or form will racism be tolerated. The post or comment will be deleted and you will find yourself warned or banned. That's absolutely unacceptable.

3. No personal attacks or bashing-

Disagreements are fine and in fact encouraged. This is a site for sports debate and team support. I understand things can get very heated. However, personal insults are unacceptable. Not only does it make you seem weaker in your argument, it is not welcome on this site and you will be warned or banned and your post deleted.

Comments like "you're retarded" are incredibly rude. We want a calm friendly environment where readers and posters alike can feel free to visit and post without any hassle or insults. We want this to be a site people can go and tell their friends about, not one where they tell their friends to stay away.

4. Type coherently-

Posts SUCH as how i am typing RIGHT NOW!!!!! Are hard to READ and follow.

Typos and technical difficulties are excusable and understandable. We all have days where we can't type straight or our computer or mobile device just isn't cooperating with us. Just don't make it a permanent thing or it comes off as spam.

5. Don't troll-

Don't come here just to flood the fanposts with spam, insult and abuse users, or be an overall annoyance. If the community complains enough about you or one of the mods or Saint feel it necessary to, you will be banned.

6. Profanity-

I get it most of the people posting here are adults and of course profanity wil be thrown around. I only ask it be light in frequency of use and in terms of word choice. A couple d words here and there is perfectly fine, but multiple and frequent F bombs is intolerable. You may be warned or banned for excessive profanity.

However, game threads and specified Rant posts are the perfect place to unload those frustrations. In those specified areas, by all means in those areas you may let loose. However, the rules of trolling, racism, and personal attacks are still in effect and the punishments for those still applicable.

7. Flagging-

Flagging a post or comment is what you, the community, can do to make the jobs of Raymond, BA, noontide, Rated R, LiveAdam, RaiderWay, and Sons of Blanda, and myself a whole lot easier. If you think someone is violating site rules, please click the actions button at the bottom of a comment and click flag (flag button should already be at the bottom of a fanpost or fanshot).

From here you can tell us what that user has done to violate site rules or what they have done to offend you. One of us will review the flagging and make a decision as to what course of action to take. No one on the site will know if you have flagged anything except for the moderators. We won't release info of you flagging, this is anonymous. We will get back to you on what our course of action is via email.

If you don't wish to do it that way, just send one of us an email and we will get to it ASAP. I strongly urge the community to flag anything they find troubling or in violation of site rules. You do have a say here, and you can make a difference. We want to make S&BP fun and enjoyable for you in any way possible so please feel free to speak up.

Thank you for reading, and please, have fun here at S&BP, the site made for, of, and by Raider Nation.

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KA1Z3R

Your alright, even though your half left!!!!

I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Dec 9, 2010 5:15 PM PST reply actions  

*You're, *you're

Please type coherently, thanks.

by BUCKS on Dec 9, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. It is great for people jumping into a long thread.

Rec the comments that you like so everyone knows to read them.

Does this look as bad as it looks?

by Rich Langford on Dec 9, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Disagree. I really love this blog the way it is. I really hate the Chiefs blog.

There is a mod there by the name of Wooddyman who has itchy fingers. Makes the visit quite unpleasant as you will be suddenly warned if you try to pop their largely optimistic bubble. Even if you don’t attack them like say profanity or a personal attack, they will ban you if you talk “bad” about the Chiefs.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Dec 9, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

Don't worry about that

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 9, 2010 7:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Don’t worry man. Banning would only be for those blatantly disregarding rules and warnings. You know, extreme cases

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 9, 2010 7:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The sad thing this is like the 5th reminder this season alone

some people should get banned already, sometimes the atmosphere of this site gets real tense

Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden

by NYraider29 on Dec 9, 2010 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

If you have anyone in mind just email me or another mod. Just tell me what your email is so I can know its u. Just put ur subject as “hey KA1Z3R”. my email is ka1z3r_34@yahoo.com

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 9, 2010 7:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I understand this, if any names are brought to my attention i will email and confer with Raymond and the other mods to agree on a course of action.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 3:58 AM PST up reply actions  

sweet. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 6:25 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah don’t fret, I won’t go around banning willy-nilly

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

good to know this is available KA1ZER

as of late there arent any problems; i personally dont have any vendettas or looking to get anyone banned. But i know you know how it is around here, it can get to a point where you cant have an input to certain discussions

Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden

by NYraider29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

"Tense" I can deal with. But conventional banalities and K.C.esque vulgarity is exceedingly unpleasant

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 9, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

true very true

better use of words indeed

Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden

by NYraider29 on Dec 9, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I've got to be honest. I like it.

They make an ass of themselves and we get to make fun of them for it. As long as they don’t start talking amongst themselves about their business, which happened a couple of times, I am fine. Chiefs week is like hunting season.

Does this look as bad as it looks?

by Rich Langford on Dec 9, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugg

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 9, 2010 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Its an addiction

I can’t ignore them. Low hanging fruit. Then once one of them is called out for their trolling dumbassery, along comes the million moron march to either join in or express their outrage at our poor manners. They are marvelous.

by lchristmas on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

not been along all week

And when I do you’re throwing out gems. “Million moron march” just made my 2pm till midnight shift that little bit more bearable.

Kick their ass and take their stuff!

by AllyRdr on Dec 10, 2010 1:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Are you sure banalities is the word you're looking for there?

Banalities are ‘commonplace’, aka ‘boring’ statements.

Just asking if we need to avoid being boring :)

by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was referring to chief fans

Many of whom are indeed quite banal and humorless to an absurd degree.

by lchristmas on Dec 10, 2010 4:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

If my writing stlye(the use of Italics)........

is against the rules of this site, forgive me!!! I never knew that, and the fact of the matter is, I prefer using Italics !! I always have, and since I have written official reports for the State, and counties in the bay area, i never have recieved any negative responses in my writing style !! To the contrary, the response was all positive !!!

by papabegood on Dec 9, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

This is a sad comment. Reminds me of Samson shorn

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 9, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You don't need to apologize

Much as I sometimes mind your fonts (and their effect on everything that comes thereafter), I think that it’s a unique feature of this blog and it should not be censored. Censorship from the top is what I mind the most.

by Spirals galore on Dec 9, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

As much as you can be an ass sometimes

I can appreciate that you have a preference, and it appears you don’t mean to be a nuisance with the italics.

As much as I am a fan of the first Amendment, and I believe you have every right to post in that font, I would only hope you save the italics for when your posts are less than a full paragraph long. When you’re typing 5 page essays in italics, it can get pretty unbearable sometimes. It’s not always YOU per se, but the italics do appear to have an effect on the html code on the blog which causes every post after yours to have italics too.

"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"

by Raider Zealot on Dec 10, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t specifically addressing you, in fact I have no problem with your use of italics. I’m just talking about people who do all those bold, all caps, exclamation point heavy posts that are impossible to read. Check other SBNation sites and it won’t take you long to find one. Just something I felt needed to be made clear about after my tour of other sites.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Villapiano will object to most of these greatly.

as for me, it’s understandable.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

I would hate to lose him as a contributor

Censorship from the top is bad, PG2. There are always other ways to deal with conflict.

by Spirals galore on Dec 9, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Why point your finger here? I don't mind all your italicized signature quotes (individually) but they do take up space)

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 9, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That I understand.

I may delete the BB one. But the other quote, I deeply believe in. That stays. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

V.41 has a harsh edge but he is a passionate Raider fan

and a valued contributor to this site. hopefully you guys can work it out and get along.

JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!

by rambis64 on Dec 9, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Love his passion.

But hate his persistence on me. I don’t want him to be banned though. He is a very good blogger.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Son, I Am Disappoint ...

in your truckling. It’s long-past time for you to get in touch with your own inner-bully instead of licensing him with subservient grovelling.

by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

I don’t care what he has to say about me. lol

I’d care what he has to say about raider football, or football in general. His personal negative feelings on me, I really don’t give a crap.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, you're a bigger man than I ...

Cause if I were your shoes, I’d for sure by now have told him to go eat a fat d**k.

At a bare minimum.

by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 10, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm...now youre putting words in my mouth or mind?

It isnt enough you make inane statements in the blog, then play a victimized child when called out?
Well, you have enough support in here to change your diapers and treat you like some special basket case. Why dont you try to man-up and address when people have a beef with you either over your dual citizenship with Oakland and NE or when you make some assinine comment in a blog.
Dont worry sonny…just find the nearest teat of one of your protectors…

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 10, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you have beef with my "dual citizenship with NE and OAK." lol

What exactly am I going to say that will change that?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank You Spirals, Sons as for your response.......

I’m not to sure of it’s meaning, unless your talking about Sampson getting his hair cut !!! But far as the Italics, again if it’s agains the rules of the house, I can and will comform , because of all the sites I’ve visited, this feels like home, especially the debates !!! Feels like Family, you know !!!

by papabegood on Dec 9, 2010 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

Yes, it does, Papa

I miss the italics though….feel like taking them up myself.

yes, Samson’s haircut it was.

by Spirals galore on Dec 9, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well If that's the case......

This here is for you !! And far as my getting my hair getting cut, I been shaving my head for a few years now, for it makes me look younger !!! Too much gray, and I’m not into the “Just For Men” dye jobs !!!!

by papabegood on Dec 9, 2010 9:10 PM PST reply actions  

To the dont troll part

Why are these Rex Ryan vids here every week?

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Dec 9, 2010 9:56 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I just think

no one should watch, or comment on them. He wants publicity, good or bad, therefore yielding advertisement.

As long as we don’t respond, I think he’ll go away, and find somewhere else to try and advertise his vids(or get them more recognition).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 9, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed. If they persist into the new year though I may take action. I don’t know for sure though. Probably just a warning. If it continues I’ll confer with the other mods as to what course of action to take.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:04 AM PST up reply actions  

This post reminds me...

where the hell has mikesd been. He was the in house cop. Especially on the fanshot/fanpost thing.

Does this look as bad as it looks?

by Rich Langford on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 PM PST reply actions  

I don’t know, I haven’t seen him around in forever. Hoping he didn’t leave cause he was fun to debate with

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope he hasn't been seduced by the Eagles now that they have the most exciting player in the world (who I'd give every

male child’s left-one to acquire for the Raiders.)

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I already

sacrificed my 40th BDay threesome wish to get rid of #2. I have given far far far too much! You cannot have my left one!

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Just hope the same thing isn’t happening with mikesd that happened to punisher

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

as in just rarely ever visiting (unless there’s talk of a madden tournament) due to issues with people

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Becoming an Eagles fan is much worse than that

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

True Dat

Does this look as bad as it looks?

by Rich Langford on Dec 10, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

You seem to be working it as the on-duty cop.

So much for any respect I had for you.
TTFN.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

TTFN! Hahaha That's awesome

On duty cop? Are you serious? You were excessively laying it on someone, who as far as I could tell, did not deserve it. If saying something is what it takes to lose your respect, than count me as a proud member of that club. I am starting to get a glimpse of what it would take to earn your respect. If you don’t understand something you gang beat the hell out of it.

YAAPOSAASOTFOTC

Does this look as bad as it looks?

by Rich Langford on Dec 10, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

This isnt going to work when you dont practice what you preach.

Al’s Wingman trolls people all the time and you guys do nothing.

Trolling by dead people by saying they “resembled jabba the hut” on a news story about someone’s demise.
His comments on this post which SonsOfBlanda actually defends is pathetic.

or here where he insults a member… I quote
“TheLyleAlzadoPunch are you enjoying your masturbation habits? It’s all you’ll ever get.”
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/12/1/1848453/looking-ahead

Consistency would probably make the rules concrete in the minds of your members.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly

I am probably the worst offender of at least 2 of the points. I will understand if I get yanked. I push the envelope but I never back down from what I believe and often I say it as a defense mechanism. As for Al’s SlingRoomMan I will say who cares? Who gives a shit? Who gives a gargantuan fuck what he thinks or says. His comment to me which I did not see until now was put out of context at the bottom of another comment which had nothing to do with anything I said to him. He hid it in a comment so he could not hear the slicing retaliation and avalanche of truth to come his way in my response. My response is “he is once again spineless and still cannot back up anything he says as an attack to them”.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Good on you...

Fuck em. Especially that jerk off Al’s Douchewing.
Take care, Lyle..

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 10, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Have your guardian explain to you the distinction between defending free speech in the form of an aurgument and defending the commments per se

Though it was in very bad taste (though not necessarily an all-time low for Al’s Wingman) it’s an argument, not random insult In a free country, Jake, freedom of thought and expression must be held sacred. I’m not endorsing what he said and I wouldn’t consider sleazy (K.C.esque) rhetoric or defamation under the same free-speech umbrella as "argument" … which is where Wingnut’s comment falls.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
“We had to get back to who we are, and that’s physical and smash-mouth.” – Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 6:39 AM PST

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Now you just personally insulted me which is clearly against your own rules.

You are allowing the very trolling KA1Z3R is speaking against in this post.
Do you not see the flawed logic?
Multiple people flagged it and nothing was done.

From here you can tell us what that user has done to violate site rules or what they have done to offend you. One of us will review the flagging and make a decision as to what course of action to take. No one on the site will know if you have flagged anything except for the moderators. We won’t release info of you flagging, this is anonymous. We will get back to you on what our course of action is via email.

I never got an email.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, you distorted my comment saying in saying, "His comments on this post which SonsOfBlanda actually defends is pathetic."

I chose to consider you a simpleton rather than a malicious person. I suggest to do your grieving privately in the future.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

You are still defending him with your actions and speech.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I've noticed you thrive on feelings and being offended. How's the victim role working for you?

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

The truth must hurt.

You never answered a single one of my questions or concerns. Why are you even a mod?

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's Wingman's argument (not that I agree with it but it is an argument when you examine it)

Young people who eat charred meat and swill liquor eat badly.
Young people who eat badly die young.
Therefore, young people who eat charred meat and swill liquor die young.
Mr. P ate charred meat and swilled liquor, therefore, Mr. P ate badly, therefore he died young.

This is not the same as defamation, obscenity, insurrection or any other unprotected form of speech.
Despite it’s gross premises (and the context in which it appeared) it is an argument and on this blog we make and develop arguments.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That is well and good that you can ignore the insult contained within it.

This is a form of trolling, This is not a constitution law class. We are on an internet forum.
I already quoted this but i will do it again.
KA1Z3R just said the definition is as follows:

Don’t come here just to flood the fanposts with spam, insult and abuse users, or be an overall annoyance. If the community complains enough about you or one of the mods or Saint feel it necessary to, you will be banned.

We were insulted and abused by that post and nothing was done. You insinuated I was emotional for speaking the truth on the matter.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

There were also many who expressed their respect for Mr. Patterson and their best intentions for him and those who loved him

But you want to focus in on the eccentric comment and make a mountain (or a windmill) out of it. So, “We were insulted and abused.” Well, there’s a lot of that on any sports blog. You can’t go around asking that people be banned because they are insensitive. The squeamish types given to womanly hysterics won’t last very long in this sometimes brutal environment; an environment that often reflects the very brutal game we all love.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said ban anyone

That was KA1Z3R in this post… which is why I didnt say much about it at the time.I didn’t think it was against the rules like you had said in your response.

According to this post it clearly IS against the rules. We are suppose to flag these to get it corrected; not to proliferate ignorance. I thought it was your job to help people who had a problem with something that was inflammatory. You actually can ask for help here… that is I post on a moderated board. What does Al’s opinion about getting fat and dieing have to do with raiders football or the people who cover it?

If i wanted to see chaos and insults I would hang out on the ESPN raider board. Not a mod in sight…
Silver and Black Pride has some great content and hard working people writing for it so i would rather browse here any day over that. I just don’t think his comments have a place here according to these ground rules laid out in this front page post though.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying there are no limits, only that we be careful not turn erode into something like

Bolts from the Blue or Arrowhead Pride where trivial banalities are the norm and reason- backed statements delivered with an edge are expunged by Jack-booted-censors. The difficulty is drawing the line and we all have varying standards and hot-buttons. Anyway, Saints been doing a remarkably good job by showing, I believe, restraint on the side of tolerance as opposed to the possible slippery-slope of dictatorial censorship.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey man...

After reading all the ‘death to V41’ rants over my calling out patboy, in what was something between he and I,…I could have sworn I was in AP or BftB for a minute…
Take care…

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 10, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

There's nothing between us anymore.

We have done our bantering. Everything has been said.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess what, you're wrong. My two comments were in regard to your love-fest with

the KC “guest” in the house. I never once directly interfered with your assaults on Potatoguy b/c he can handle himself and it isn’t my affair. But, your treating him like a dog while chumming with the enemy drew my two comments.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Love Fest?

Because the guy came into the blog I wrote and showed some class and wasnt trolling? I went into AP and told him, just as my blog stated, I hate the fucking Chiefs, but admired him for his devotion and the frank and honest info he brought with him, unlike so many other asshats from AP..and these douches from the Jags…hmmm..sounds like something you had said in the past, neh? Fuck the team but respect the fans…when we were playing Steelers? So he came back over and thanked me. Chumming with the enemy? Mutual respect with a non troll doesnt merit that. But if you think so, whatever. To me, patboy is a juvenile ass. Just no tolerance for him. And that seems to be the crux of the problem. Sorry, too much time as a Raiders fan, 22 years of the Navy and 16 years of teaching has left me without patience for what I consider uninformed posts. Obviously, that’s in conflict with all and sundry who feel he is a savant when it comes to Oakland. I had a couple of e-mails today from Spirals asking me not to leave the blog. Nice gesture and from someone I respect…but really..stay here and get broadsided every time I react and allow, what i have read in here and also read in the blogs, far more insane shit by Al’s Wingman? Not here to have drama…here to talk about my team and my passion for it. To me patboy is a troll…He adds nothing to the discussion and his attitude towards me in jumping in my blog and being an asshat right off the bat just called for a spanking. But that’s ok…so all I can say is let’s see how it rolls at RAIDERSFAN.net.
Bye.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 10, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not troll at all.

if you mean the VERY first post you made, I just asked you to show some respect to kansascity, who has blogged here well, and was well respected for a chiefs fan(just like how you were respecting that one chiefs fan in the later post that blanda is referring to).

Vill, you hate me due to my dual relationship. I try time and time again to blog, and add to discussion, but you keep butting in, and throwing in an insult. For example: I asked the Chiefs fan, “What gameplan are you talking about?”

You respond:

‘What plan are you talking aboout? (gigglegiggle)’
it’s not Plan Nine from Outer Space, ma-roon, The fucking game plan we ran on SD. This is why youre not taken seriously. You have to live at home…I can’t see you functioning in the world. I won’t disparage other 19 year olds because I have a nephew going thru Bud/S in Coronado who is more conscious than you when he’s asleep.

My first comment on that post, I gave an opinion on the situation:

eh whatever.
Knock the chiefs down a notch in the division record. Chargers won’t do anything. as far as I know, they are pretty much out of the playoffs, unless they win the rest of their games.

To which you respond:

Did you grow up on a penis farm?
To me youre just a little dick…begone TuckRule boy…

I try to talk football, but you make it VERY difficult with your verbal attacks on me, where there is no reason.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

KansasCity has dirty hands and I resented your taking his side. He posted

some of the worst drivel ever and a dozen lewd pictures of a sleazy nature.
As for Villapiano41 and Christmas, why don’t you just return fire, i.e take the offensive instead of being defensive b/c when you’re on D, as you know, it’s much harder to score.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

because it won't do anything.

I can say all I want. His main hate is me being a pats/raider fan. Nothing I can do there. If he hates me for that, then I can’t do much at all, besides yell, swear, and come up with snappy insults. Which don’t solve anything.

All I can do really is ignore him, even though he probably won’t ignore me. If it has to do with football, I’ll comment on his posts. I won’t comment on any posts that personally attack me. I’ll gain nothing in the end, and it would be a waste of space.

Plus, I remember you softening up to kansascity. I know you deeply hated him at first, but you eased up with him. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

plus I can't do snappy insults. :P

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh. maybe I have bad memory then. That can tend to happen to me.

If not, then I apologize.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what man

Choose your poison. Most people on here hate the Patriots with a passion. It is offending just to look at your name. When other teams come in to chat here’s patriotboy hanging out. Sux man. It may work out a little better for you if you had a name like raiderguy. WTF

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I am trying to change my name. waiting for saint to help me.

apparently my name will either be potatoguy, or killerstrawberry. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Set up a different account for each team

Might be a little easier for you. That way you can represent the Raiders 100% while your in here.

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I;d have to sign in, and out, and in, and out

because I go through S&B P, and the pulpit quite a lot. A regular, neutral like name would be better imo.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

and your annotation could be I screwed my sister

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

well good luck man I'm out

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Kansas City? I was talking to Blajah07, or whatever his handle is..

I think kansascity is a turd. Got your posters mixed up.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 11, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You did nothing wrong that I can see:

Respectful posters are a very valued commodity, imo. I like when opposing fans come over and give good insights.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it your reading ability or do you have memory issues? You got this quote exactly Backwards. I've always admired the Seelers and despised their dorky fans and their snot rags that they dutifully wave - an army or morons

Fuck the team but respect the fans…when we were playing Steelers?

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

about the steelers and their fans.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

and snot rags.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Sigh...whatever SOB.

I do recall you paying respect to other teams’ fans when they have non-troll input. And seriously, if you took offense to my talking about it like a man with blajah07, There’s no sleep loss on my house.

Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...

by Villapiano41 on Dec 11, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

In the past, I have provided visiting Barbarians hospitality and humane treatment

and for that I apologize for scandalizing you and others of the Nation. Perhaps because of my self-loathing for this womanish inclination, I was harsh in my treatment of you who fell prey to the same temptation – perhaps by my own bad example – may the Lord and Al forgive me.
For my hypocrisy, I owe you an apology Villapinao41 (I address you directly lest you now think I’m referring to Potatoguy or someone else).

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 11, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Villapino

thanks for your navy serice i hope u are doing well

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Dec 14, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I will say

Saint et al have shown some serious restraint on what to allow and carry forward. For the most part things seem to sputter out to a smoldering detente and usually it dies there. The best part is no matter what whenever S&B P gets attacked by outsiders we all seem to band together despite our “dysfunctional family”.
So let the blood letting begin and lets get this Oprah Winfrey love in campfire smore fest of PC over with already!

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I've flagged posts - but never with the intention to get them banned.

As a matter of fact, I firmly believe in group dynamics and have posted before on SBP being the best self-regulating blog, in Socratic fashion. Offensive posts, in my view, should stand as they are – as hideous reminders of the excesses we should avoid. Al’s Wingman’s posts are horrendous at times, insightful at others; why not give him the benefit of the doubt and ignore him when he’s offensive?

I am really concerned about KA1Z3R’s increased vigilance – it reminds me of communism, of which I have ample experience.

by Spirals galore on Dec 10, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Do tell...............

of what experience in what capacity I am curious.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Tough stuff

my friend came from Romania and got beat when he tried to come to Canada for “political persecution” by the cops. Good reasoning and experience to draw from.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Use your imagination and knowledge. Spirals was raised in Sophia before 1989

before the Iron Curtain came down. That meant the State controlled your speech, your movements, even your associations and whether you went to college or to a factory.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 10, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions  

damn.....

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

If I knew

she came from an east block country I would quickly know, understand and rationalize however I did not know her background.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah - I was reborn after coming to the US

That’s why I am so sensitive to censorship and worried about this emerging tendency…

by Spirals galore on Dec 10, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Understandable

The lines are very gray in color of where they cross into censorship and where it is just over the edge. There are rules for every place and when the rules are well defined we must follow or chose to not participate. The “rules” as defined here are subjective and conduct is not easily defined. Ignoring those that are ridiculous, racy, offensive etc etc is a good choice but hard to follow as response to such is the norm and ability to resist is difficult.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

well said.

This reminds me of english class that is soon ending(nooooo!!!). We have several debates that have to do with censorship in a way(controversial is a better term).

We make an opinion, find articles, and back them up.

One of them is if a boy should be allowed to wear a dress. Another one had to do with abortion.

Love that class. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

For sure

Live and let live…………….. WTF do people care about what other people do so long as it has zero affect on them…….. however the butterfly effect is indeterminable. There in lies the rub.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 10, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I always thought of

that they would protest, because they have never been exposed to them as children, therefore, it threatens their way of living. They think it’s “not normal,” and therefore not right(then I also wrote a part in a paper about the definition of normality).

Change is a good thing. AT one point, people were uneasy about girls wearing boys clothing. Now society has adjusted. Know why? because kids were expose to them more, and thought nothing of it.

The whole emo thing. People once thought that style was stupid, and it invited bullying and such. Kids are adjusted to that style now, thinking nothing of it.

Even at one point, being gay is something people were against strongly. because of this, kids who were gay were struggling with their lifestyle, and committing suicide. Now, kids are accepting other kids about their sexuality. They don’t care if another kid is gay, they accept who they are.

People feel threatened from their way of life. In the instance of censorship, I find it stupid that because a few people have not been exposed to them at all, immediately disagree with them, instead of looking at different points of view.

Lines should be drawn on some cases, but only morally.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

sorry that I went off like this. lol

I am a big believer in human rights, and freedoms.

hell, there is no such thing as censorship in japan, and they make some pretty good movies, as well as great forms of entertainment. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

well... as far as I know in the movie industry.

You can literally take something from someone else’s movie, and use it. With no copyright at all.

Maybe that’s what I was thinking of: they dont have copyright laws.

Sorry that I got confused. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Kids accept gay kids now?

Word? Then please explain how 4 gay teens nation-wide committed suicide in the span of 2-3 weeks as a result of cyber bullying and ridicule just a month and a half ago.

"Lil' Dam, I make psychic bitches Get Low"

by Raider Zealot on Dec 11, 2010 3:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I will agree that

not all teens are accepted for their choice of sexual lifestyle but it is far more acceptable than previously. Sometimes and I do not say this definitively but there are greater issues at hand rather than what has been put in information available to the public.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 11, 2010 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

As, for example, natural law

…there are greater issues at hand rather than what has been put in information available to the public

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 11, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

more kids are accepting them for who they are now

compared to say…. 5 years ago?

maybe I should have elaborated.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 11, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

It's hard

to put every thought to every detail in every response. Things are often left out do to a reaction to something it happens. We all can’t put the entire detail of our point down. If we all were lawyers in the way we respond our site would suck and get bogged down with minutia.
I knew what you meant and that is why I put my earlier response.

Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Dec 11, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, saw that.

well in any case, things are a changin’, and people should accept that maybe someone else should live how they want to live, and leave them be. People are so worried about change, but they fail to see that change has been a part of the American life for over 200 years(I believe the revolution in the late 1700s had MUCH change).

They can get so shelled up in their own lives, that they can;t seem to think there are other ways of living(or something in that idea).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 11, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a human rights supporter too, man. I was gonna’ go to LoveFest in SanFran, but it was cancelled. In fact, I would be there right now if it wasn’t..Damn. Hahah

"Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." Vince Lombardi

by JaKe. on Dec 11, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind going to one of those.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 11, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't even need to see it. lol I know what it is.

It was definitely a fumble.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

#'s 1,2, &3 belong to the Raiders
  1. is the Holy Roller

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

correction 10 is holy Roller

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the ESPN Boards:

I was banned there for linking a stories. Made NO SENSE. I was SaintOakland for years and now all of that content is gone.

I see this as a throwback to the old ESPN board days, I began posting there in 2000.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Broken link to the first post

Sorry for the formatting error
Link to the comment in question from al and Sonsofblandas defense of him being able to troll through free speech.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2010/11/26/1838006/raiders-sports-blogger-patrick-patterson-dies

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

In the post KA1Z3R said:
Don’t come here just to flood the fanposts with spam, insult and abuse users, or be an overall annoyance. If the community complains enough about you or one of the mods or Saint feel it necessary to, you will be banned.

Why is that dude exempt when he is insulting the grieving family of my friend Patrick?
I got emails from his cousin asking me to take off his comment and i felt so bad because i had no power to do so.
Al’s Wingman doesn’t know this man or anything about how he lived or died to have that be a fair opinion.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

I never read Wingman's comment until now.

I too have defended him but that definitely sounds like trolling to me. There is freedom of expression but when it does not merit a positive response from anyone than that is the point where one needs to be silenced.

Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.

by TAW on Dec 10, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I apologize lonnes as I was…..taking a break from the site during this time and was not around for this incident.

Please send me an email if/when this happens again at ka1z3r_34@yahoo.com. I don’t check everyday but will be sure to take proper action once it is checked.

I’ll be back around here for a good while if only for the purpose of just modsmanship. Once again i apologize lonnes but I’m here now and posted this as a warning for some users on here (no names mentioned) who maybe didn’t know the specific rules. Instead of just leaving the site for a month or two for things to just cool down, I’m here now to keep others from ever feeling they need to do the same.

Once again I’m very sorry for the trouble and inaction lonnes.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

also you will notice that his comment is now deleted and he has been warned. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

No worries

Its gone now so i will never say another word about it.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP
~R.I.P. Patrick Patterson~

by Ionnes on Dec 10, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I encourage you to continue flagging posts and emailing me or another mod. You can make a difference on this site and i insure you that your voice will not go unheard.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

also please check your email, I’d like to discuss that with you there ASAP. Especially since we both seem to be on our computers.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Consider him banned:

When I learned of Patrick’s passing it sent me into a very personal mourning. I am also 38. I have been blogging for over 10 years and I see a lot of me in him. For someone to troll on a memorial is the lowest form of life.

Al’s Wingman has the distinction of being the first person EVER banned by me. having been a blogger for years, I understand that these sites become part of our lives. These arguments really happen. Emotions get carried away and you will always have a contrarian (sp). But to insult someone who passed away on a public memorial is beyond anything I could ever defend.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 12, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Saint

u are a great guy thanks for make me feel welome at this blog

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider

by j-man on Dec 14, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

My understanding of a troll

is an avatar that is not really a fan of the team, but someone either posing to be a fan for some stupid reason (I’ve seen this among Chief’s fans), or some haters in here just to talk smack without talking about football at all. I have no use for either of those, but haven’t seen any in here yet.

The Autumn Wind is here. Time to set sail.

by Porcupine on Dec 10, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

there’s been a couple (everyone remember Bacon?) but nothing major.

The Sunkist Kaiser, most epic thing since the Grizzly BLAAAAAAAIR! Relax, play, and drink Sunkist! Your Kaiser commands it.

by KA1Z3R on Dec 10, 2010 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The term 'trolling' on web forums ...

Is generally accepted to mean "purposefully saying stupid shit to get a rise out of the other participants’.

It’s generally equivalent to being an attention-whore.

Ergo, one need not be a fan of another team in order to be a troll.

by Brett J Valjalo on Dec 10, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha! It appears I missed out on all the fun!

Love you all! Happy Holidays, and as always:

GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden

""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson

by brhynno on Dec 10, 2010 9:40 PM PST reply actions  

Same from here. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Dec 10, 2010 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey PG2, VILLA ......

Maybe if you 2 can appreciate the similarities you have in common, and abide the differences, then maybe a truce can be formed !!! (Spirals, is that the right word to use in this context ???) Anyway, you both have great passion for the Raiders, which bring all of us together !!! Just putting that out there !!! Like Brhynno, I hope everyone in the S&BP, has Happy Holidays !!! Even you Zealot the Idiot !!! JK, maybe !!!

by papabegood on Dec 10, 2010 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

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