Exploring Nnamdi Asomugha Trade Possibilities
by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 1, 2010 3:42 PM PST
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Could Nnamdi Asomugha's days in Oakland be over? [via a.espncdn.com]
Is Oakland Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on the trading block? I don't think so; however, based on his comments at the Pro Bowl, maybe his days in the silver and black colors are numbered. ESPN's Tim Graham had some interesting Pro Bowl tidbits and what not. A bit of a story had some quotes concerning Nnamdi Asomugha and Darrelle Revis, the NFL's two top cornerbacks in the league. New York Jets head coach Rex Ryan was even involved and it didn't include him giving the middle finger. Here are some quotes collected by Graham:
Oakland Raiders star Asomugha was smiling when he brought up the dream scenario, but insisted he was "dead serious" and has spoken to New York Jets coach Rex Ryan about it.
"Me and Revis have been talking to Rex to try to do something," Asomugha said. "You may see us in the future. There's a little bit of talk going on. Either he's coming to Oakland or something else will happen."
Said Revis: "Me and him have talked about it, but I can't really control that situation. I don't know if he can either.
On a team with so many needs, I have thought about the possibility of trading Asomugha. He's the best cornerback in the league. He's young, humble and willing to do anything to help the team win. With those traits and his obvious skills, he obviously has value.
With all of that said, what let's just see what we could possibly get for Nnamdi Asomugha.
Rex Ryan was probably foaming at the mouth at this news. [via media.nj.com]
Since Asomugha was reportedly talking to Revis and coach Ryan about playing for the Jets, it only makes sense that we start there first. We need an upgrade on the offensive line and that team from New York has the best line in the league. At cornerback, Dwight Lowery is young and talented and a much better option than veteran Lito Sheppard who struggled this past season. Being in contention for the playoffs and expecting to go back to the AFC title game, the Jets are probably willing to part with draft picks.
Julius Peppers, an elite pass rusher, is unlikely to be brought back. [via www.boston.com]
The Jets aren't the only possible destination. The Carolina Panthers, who have their own decision to make with their defensive star by the name of Julius Peppers. Unwilling to slap the franchise tag on him since it's too pricey, the Panthers could get some value back for Peppers with the addition of Asomugha. Peppers, one of the premier defensive ends in football, would be a welcomed addition to this team.
The former Steeler has struggled some since leaving Pittsburgh. [via cache.boston.com]
Just recently, Miami Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter made headlines. As a matter of fact, it was today when he said that he wanted a trade. Although Porter still plays a pretty good outside linebacker, he's not the player he used to be back in his younger days. Also, outside linebacker isn't really a position of need. Miami seems like an unlikely destination for Asomugha should there be a trade involved at all involving Joey Porter for those reasons.
Ponder and then imagine that in silver and black. [via assets.nydailynews.com]
While some teams may not be facing financial problems or disgruntled defensive players, they could be looking for a cornerback. It doesn't really get any better than Nnamdi Asomugha. Our neighbors from across the Bay Area, the San Francisco 49ers, need cornerback help. The 49ers are also possessing a pair of first-round picks in the 2010 draft. An interesting team in all of this are the Philadelphia Eagles. Donovan McNabb has been rumored to be leaving Philadelphia for years, and his struggles of late with the emergence of Kevin Kolb has added fuel to the fire. While the Eagles may or may not be looking to add a cornerback, getting something of great value for McNabb could be huge if they're looking to deal the Pro Bowl quarterback.
This is just speculation, of course, for some good trade discussion. While he reportedly isn't on the trading block, this is something to get our minds churning since the Jets are allegedly tampering with Asomugha. Thanks to birds'n'raiders for the initial post.
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Revis + namdi
Wow…Talk about SCARY
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Feb 1, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Woodson + Nnamdi
A deadly duo reunites, I wish
by tkiller314 on Feb 1, 2010 4:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
woodson ?
charles … wa sooooooo over rated in this town , no joke ! the only thing he could do consitantly was give up a P.I penalty . oh and of course the double move . hahahah .
by xoxoxKayla on Feb 1, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he was
I remember as a Packer fan that I was not to impressed by signing Chuck. I’m glad he proved me wrong though. He really turned his life around here in Green Bay.
Anyhow, sure, I’d love to get Nmandi, at the right price. First, if he would restructure his contract into a long term deal. 3 years for 46 million? Yikes! I’d be willing to give a 1st, 3rd, and 5th Round Draft pick for Nmandi. Would that sound like a fair deal? That’s always tough to decide.
I’d be very upset to see Nmandi in NY. Ouch, cause GB has to play the Jets next year in NY. It’d be nice to have him lining up with Charles Woodson. That way when Interception King Brent (we’ll never forget you) Favre plays, we’ll get 5+ interceptions! Woohoo!
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
by Jabooty on Feb 2, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Throw in another 1st and id still have a hard time accepting it.
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!
by Robby1987 on Feb 3, 2010 5:14 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3 years
That is the thing I disliked about the deal as well. If you are going to make an overpay investment then at least make more of a commitment then 3 years. I’d give you that deal BTW if there was no cap hit but would prefer to somehow wrap another crappy contract (JRuss/Javon Walker) into an “addition by subtraction” deal. You see it happen all the time baseball but it’s tough to do with caps and we certainly don’t have the front office to pull of that crafty of a deal. To be honest were getting better but just need to fix some of Al’s goofy moves over the last few years.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Feb 4, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's Brent Favre?
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 4, 2010 4:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Again...
Brent (I’ll never forget you) Favre.
It’s a common phrase here in Wisconsin, more of a joke. “Brent” followed by “I’ll never forget you.” Get it?
It’s fun to say after all that Prima Donna did for us the past couple years.
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
by Jabooty on Feb 4, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the very fact that Nnamdi said
that he spoke to Rex Ryan means it was tampering. I saw some of the comments, and i don’t think some of you guys get it. If the league rules that Ryan tampered with Nnamdi, then the Raiders are entitled to take the Jets 1st and 3rd round picks (at minimum). No trade, nothing. Free picks because Ryan spoke with him.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
didn't favre talk
with coaches of other teams while he was “retired” and actually talked to Detroit coaches before playing GB and tampering was never called?
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe its different
Cause he was “retired”
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 1, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn't retired
when he called Detroit’s coaches to play GB
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ya..Favre got special treatment
because he was “retired”….damned NFL and their love affair with his saggy-ballsack-like existence
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
C'Mon man
I hated favre for coming back, But after his perfromance this year, You gott give him his props
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 1, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Props for what?
Choking yet again?
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 5:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How on earth did he choke!!!
He had his best year ever! At 40 Years old! He threw one bad Int. So what!
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 1, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty sure
mikesd1981 is having a bad day. Let him take it out on everyone but himself. He’ll look back on this one day and laugh…
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
only at favre
and your beloved eagles when Reid again can’t manage a clock or doesn’t know a NFL rule about a tie or something else every coach should know.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it was McNabb who didnt know a game could end in a tie
Nice try though, there’s always a next time.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reid didn't know
it meant 1/2 point for the playoffs. And it was Reid who called all the plays and managed the clock that should have never ended in a tie. So even if McNabb didn’t know it still falls on Porky.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
1/2 point total which would all add up for tie breakers and such
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
gee I don't know
did you not watch the championship game? You know where he throws the patented Brett Favre ill advised pass for an interception to lose the game?
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol @ mike o.o come on man....
Atleast brett favre took his team to the nfc championship ,and viking fans had something to be happy about for a chance…. The real question was where was the raiders at ROFL!!! ooooh yea sitting at the trash dump for the last 7 years. We’re still waiting on Russell to turn into the next Jim plunkett yet he goes to vegas not even thinking about winning. Heck the silver and black nation don’t even talk about making superbowl runs anymore since well after that one game in San Diego son.
"Once a Raider always a member of this silver and black nation.... Just a way of life sooo deal with it!"
by Suleku on Feb 1, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It amazes me how everyone will stick up
for an old man who’s so selfish he wouldn’t mentor his back up in GB and felt he didn’t need to come to camp and throws an ill advised pick in the championship game that knocks his team out of a chance to go to the SB because he wanted to win the game instead of running for more yardage to set up a FG kick to make it a sure win.
It’s not like it’s the first time Favre has thrown an interception to lose a championship game. What kind of Raiders fan are you any way? Tell me, how many times has Minnesota won the Super Bowl?
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
reminiscent of Montana when Young was coming into it
these big egos get exposed eventually and it’s cosmic justice. BFd is a great qb whose selfishness undermines (and underscores) his accomplishments. I admit feeling pleasure watching the physical and mental beating he took in probably his career ending game.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'll try 1 more time.
But coaches like Childress enable him by not giving him a dead line which in the end hurt the team cuz if he doesn’t come back they may be left hurting for a QB…..
hmmmm wonder if we can interest them in Russell. xville can explain how the Vikings o-line will turn Russell into the QB he can’t be.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
0-4 okay but the raiders haven't won any in 30 years lol
Yet we talk about the past 24/7 enough with that….. I’m more worried about what’s going on with the team now in this day and era it’s 2010 after all! Wake up xD but as for russell man I like ur idea
"Once a Raider always a member of this silver and black nation.... Just a way of life sooo deal with it!"
by Suleku on Feb 2, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Russell must be packaged and marketed like a commodity
rumors and propaganda could be manufactured (by someone smarter than Herrera) of JR’s ‘finding himself’, ‘starting to get the idea’, ‘improving at an astonishing rate’, ‘exhibiting an exemplary work-ethic’ and so forth. Then, when everyone expects him to be our starter – bam – headlines tell of his move to e.g. Minnesota (where ski caps with horns are the rage).
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and the eagles
happily give you McNabb for Nnamdi, straight up. We pee our pants in joy for that trade.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is that sarcasm?
I dont want Donvo here. Hes an eagle and should retire and eagle
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 1, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well I live in Eagles territory
so if he retires, maybe the fans will shut up. But of course Reid did sign again til 2013. He’s a bad coach, parent, and person.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm an eagles fan
and fuck you very much for calling my Hall of Fame coach all of those things. He brought us from being one of the consistently bad teams to being the winningest team in the NFC for the past decade. His kids messed up, that is not his fault. He loves them, and is doing his best to support them, like any real parent. And on what fucking basis are you calling him a bad person? I’m serious, are you stupid or something?
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His kids messed up, that is not his fault.
He allegedly raised them. I say allegedly because, well look at them. He can’t take care of the team either. It’s a shame it took his kids being fuck ups for him to actually take time to be with his family. And you come on an Oakland site and you get upset cuz I said something about your oh so wonderful Porky Pig coach who, for a HOF coach, doesn’t even know a game can end in a tie. Well this is a Raiders site. I can’t stand your team, McNabb especially, and most of all a coach who can’t manage a team or his family. Maybe he’s a good GM, but he can’t do both. He should just take some time off and be with his family and help them out. So I stand by comments.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I like the raiders because I miss the grit of not winning. You give off it’s musk in such a profound manner that it brings me back to the 80s. Well done, sir.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surrouned by Eagles fans
and I hate them more than I hate the Eagles themselves. Band wagon jumping assholes. The Eagles stadium had a magistrate in the place, I’m not sure if the new one does. At least Raiders fans are still loyal to the team even if we express dissatisfaction.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we are always loyal you dumbass
We take shit because we actually harass our players if they don’t win. We will bitch and moan, but we still pack the seats, we still buy the merchandise, and it makes us a better fanbase. We refuse to accept bad play. We will tell our players, our coaches, and everyone who will listen. We will throw snowballs at you. We will kick the ass of any dipshit who so chooses to attend a game in any other color than green. We are legion.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are fools
who take out the frustration of bad team management on any opposing fan who wants to enjoy a game. The fact that you admit you will kick the ass of anyone that wears anything other than green just proves you’re classless idiots who have thin skin. I’ve seen people tear up their Eagles jerseys and start rooting for the opponent during the game. I’m 1.5 hours from Eagles home, I see it all the time here. Loyal. That’s a joke.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
we are also emotional people
we cry. We flip shit after having our hearts broken. We say, “Dammit I’m giving up on this team”, only to get back into it the next week. Our city culture has some strange ties to the Eagles, and if you really lived near philly, you would know exactly how the Eagles faired the day before based on the moral of the populace. We are bonded to this team, in a way that i’m not sure you can imagine.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that bond must really get weak
when you leave philly borders, cuz everyone up here jumps off the bandwagon right away. They really are the most classless fans I’ve ever met.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how I wish...
I could put on my Nnamdi jersey, walk into your stadium and sit right in the middle of you pussies. You can take your green and shove it up your ass. Go find an Eagles blog and get the f out of here before I knock the feathers off your punk ass.
Light up the Freakin Halo!
by marshgr on Feb 1, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
internet tough guy
i’m so scared. Don’t hurt me, please don’t hurt me!
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are the one who commented first..
about kicking someone’s ass. Win something and then you can talk your shit. Until then… continue to underachieve.
Light up the Freakin Halo!
by marshgr on Feb 1, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ya, we will continue to underacheive..
what with our 6 NFC Championship appearances in 10 years. We gotta get back up to par…
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Take the plastic wrap off a cigarette pack and put it open-end down on a table. That would be all the trophies the Eagles have.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
at least we got a shot at one
Every. Single. Year.
do you remember that feeling? So close, yet so far away? That is another reason Eagles fans are so pissed off.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but at least when we get a shot
we usually hit the mark….
last time you actually got to the game…….your QB literally did choke and couldn’t call a play.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
huh? the 2008 NFC Championship against the Cardinals?
i don’t know what your talking about on that one. Or do you know what your talking about?
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The fucking superbowl
that they went to and McNabb didn’t play during the playoffs and he was choking in the huddle and Westbrook ( I think it was him) had to call the play that Reid wanted ran cuz McNabb was dry heaving. Funny how a die hard Eagles fan doesn’t know about that……it was a big deal in the papers and everything.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh you meant THE game..
ya, we’ve only been to one Superbowl under this administration. (Note: You know you have a great fucking administration when you say, “We’ve ONLY been to one”.
But anyway, ya he did choke. We all acknowledge that he choked, because he is a choke. And that is why we are all ready for Kolb. I’m not sure where you’re going with this, as it only re-establishes points that I’ve already made (i.e.: we are done with McNabb, even though it’s been a great ride)
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it establishes my point
Reid is a bad coach by not managing the team well and putting Kolb in now and getting him all the starting snaps sine he supposed to be the future and McNabb was a never-been. Sad thing is they’ll probably resign McNabb til at least when Reid realizes he’s horrible at his job as coach and GM-type-person and decides to not sign another extension.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no
your ability to zoom in on the micro and disregard the macro is actually astounding. Reid has built this franchise (twice over, being as only 4 of the players on the 2004 superbowl team are still with it) to be a powerhouse. We are the winningest team in the NFC this decade. He is the top dog, being responsible for the final decision in all matters football-related. So, he has assembled 2 sets of very strong teams while maintaining domination over our conferance.
So, he isn’t he best with time management. Most of that goes on his QB, to whom he has remained loyal. I think that you dont get the Reid-McNabb relationship. Reid took a gamble with McNabb over Ricky Williams, and “his boy” has been a superstar during his time. For the past 3 years, with Kolb, McNabb still generally gave us a better chance to win. Now, that is in question. That is why there is controversy. It wasn’t a bad choice by Reid, he was just sticking with the arm that got him here.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He still can't
win the big game. And only got there once. Sometimes it’s time to make changes to get over the hump. He’s decided to be complacent.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes
i dont think people realy understand how hard it is to win it all in the NFL . one year its this , only to fix that to find out next year its something else .
by xoxoxKayla on Feb 1, 2010 11:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
idk
i’d take the reid / mc nabb combo over cable / jamarcuss combo anyday [[ hmmmm ]] any way we can get that trade ? [ hahah ]
by xoxoxKayla on Feb 1, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No.
Reid can’t handle a team and he definitely won’t be able to handle the team we have right now. And McNabb is getting to old. Reid may be a good GM, possibly. But as coach he’s not.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Donvo is a great QB
And Reid isn’t all that bad
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 1, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup they’re both awesome. Donovan is a choker. Reid is just horrible in all ways considered.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no its not
Right now, all of Philly is about 60% team Kolb, and 40% team McNabb.
Both are on the last year of their contracts, so one of them must leave this year. McNabb is older and past his prime. Kolb is young, far more accurate, and the coaching staff think hes the next Drew Brees.
We all love Donnie, but he’s had his time. If we dont trade him, then Kolb’s career is screwed.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 5:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well you're beloved
Coach Reid likes McNabb. So we’ll see what happens. I think both should leave and get a new coach and develop Kolb more. You’re beloved Porky Pig Coach is also head of football operations. He should have cut McNabb long ago. After he lost the Super Bowl or blamed the whole world of being racists to black QB’s.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
this is getting pathetic. I’ll leave you to cry alone in a dark room.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why would I cry?
I’m not an Eagles fan.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh ya I've forgotten
when you have nothing left to care about, you stop exhibiting all emotion. Well, that doesn’t work in Philly. We are just as pissed when the Eagles suck and they lose. But, i’m guessing that so many years without a winning record has made you numb to all outside stimuli. That must suck, bro.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we all get upset about oakland too
but we don’t ever swear off the team completely or switch teams.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, we say that we will do those things
in the heat of the moment when we are pissed off. But we come back as soon as we realize that this team isn’t the ’goddamned motherfuckin pansy-ass Eagles."
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I work with Eagles fans
and even friends with some. Right now my friends Eagles jersey is still sitting in the living room of my friends house cuz the Raiders beat them. I tried to give it back to him and he said and I quote “Fuck them I don’t care”.
Yup loyalty. I went to work after the Raiders beat them and tried talking football to some of the EAgles fans and they all gave up on the season. So well. There you go.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
talk about the exeption to the rule
and where do you live anyway? Anywhere close to Philly proper? I doubt it, judging by that candy-ass’s behavior. He deserves a beer or two thrown on him.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
that’s a typical eagles fan reaction. Throw beers at anyone that doesn’t like them. Again, classless. And I live near Allentown. Did you not fucking see me write earlier 1.5 hours away? So you know I love relatively close. Close enough that if I got a job there I would commute.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok, man. Do me a favor. Ask your “former eagles fan” buddy his opinion on the McNabb/Kolb situation. That conversation will last atleast 5 or so good minutes if he is a real fan. If he isn’t, than ask him about his “new team”. If he has something real to say about that team, no, if he can name more then 10 players on that new team, then he is a real fan of them (which is doubtful, unless he went to the fucking Cowboys, the truest of bandwagons)
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 1, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
did you realy just say "cut him " after he lost the superbowl ? you should realy stop [ hahah ] but the drunk blogging is permitted
by xoxoxKayla on Feb 1, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not drunk. And why shouldn’t they cut him? He didn’t take them to the SB and he lost the SB when he played because he wasn’t in proper condition from sitting all post season.. Haven’t been there since. He’s old and he’s not as durable as he used to be. Kolb seems like a promising up and coming QB. Why not let him get ready then? Or get someone more durable who can take them over th hump? And why do you put your emotional type comments in [ ]‘s ? Do you think we’re to dumb to understand when you’re being funny or not?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
give her a break, Mike, she will grow up
but I agree—the girl must ditch the [hahaha]
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 5:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
she wanted to get to know us
now she knows me. I’m an equal opportunity jerk.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 6:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe that's what she needs to grow up
She sounds like a high school kid though.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 7:12 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda got that from the xoxox part.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nnamdi stays
I think Nnamdi and the team would be better if we added a DE pass rushing specialist like Peppers. If we’re only gonna rush 4, Seymour and that dude would lead to alot of poor throws and pick opportunities. But let’s face it. Until we can stop the run, Nnamdi will never see any action. Why throw?
by golfswithglock on Feb 1, 2010 5:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how often this kind of thing occurs
at the Pro-Bowl or different functions. However, Rex Ryan obviously doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut, so he may have crossed the line here. It would be nice to have some extra picks.
Woohoo, I get to look forward to another 7-6 season ("at best") in 2010! There's nothing like going to Idaho for a bowl game.
by S Jay Bruin on Feb 1, 2010 6:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's going to be tampering.
We’ll see if Davis levees charges. BUT, tampering is a serious charge, and if it’s unsubstantiated it could backfire on Davis.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 1, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he was tampering with Nnamdi nothing is going happen....
The raiders don’t have nothing to prove for one , and second the league down right hates Al Davis lol as for trading him I don’t think we’d get anything great out of it especially with how the way Al has been drafting lately
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by Suleku on Feb 1, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
didnt the niners
get busted for tampering with LB from the bears ? i dont remember them getting the bears 1st and 3rd pick that year . i thought it was a 7th
by xoxoxKayla on Feb 2, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's probably
a penalty based on severity. And it was the 5th round [haha].
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
F.uc.k the Eagles....Damn am I too late....
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by Raider9 on Feb 1, 2010 7:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would do it only if the Jets give up all of their draft picks to us except for 5th 6th and 7th.
and then we get Joe Haden the CB in the 8th then an olinemen with the Jets pick.
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by Raider9 on Feb 1, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
love NA but you gotta be willing to
trade if the deal makes sense……………….gonna take alot to convince me its a good idea to give up Nnamdi though
by sballdayerday on Feb 1, 2010 9:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let's see what happens with the alleged tampering first...
way too premature to start fantasizing “what we would get” for Nnamdi. In a straight up trade, I don’t see Al requiring anything less than a first round pick and a comparable pro bowler at whatever position. It would be a good move for the Jets too.
As for McNabb, he’s a heckuv a lot better than anything we have now so that would be nice if Al decides to seriously go for a winning season instead of salvaging his pride with JaMeatloaf.
by Al's Wingman on Feb 1, 2010 10:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And where would that leave us? We would be weak not only in the DL interior but on the corners
with CJ, Routt and what’s his name. This thing is fraught with peril and I hope N.A. gets over it soon – I believe the praise and attention affected him and he’ll settle. So, you think McNabb is “a heckuv a lot better than anything we have now…” Well, I’ll take Gradkowski over Mcnabb, it’s an easy choice. For one thing, Gradkowski is a clutch performer, he actually plays his best in big games – that’s the distinguishing mark of a great player. I believe we found someone very special in Oakland this past season – Bruce made a big difference and if he hadn’t come along, we wouldn’t even be writing to each other now because none of us would have any hope.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 1, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Feb 2, 2010 2:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gradkowski is not a better QB than McNabb
Grad did well with his chances last season but I’m afraid that’s the best he has ever done in his career. Any time you have a chance to bring in a veteran caliber talent like McNabb it’s a good move. Not that Al would consider trading Nam for it. Maybe in another deal.
McNabb is well ahead of anything Gradkowski is in the NFL. If you don’t see that, then maybe try seeing without Al’s eye patch for a change.
by Al's Wingman on Feb 1, 2010 10:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Blah blah blah mere words - I am so glad we don't have McNabb and that you aren't
“Al’s Wingman” giving him advice.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 1, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
McNabb is old and doesn’t heal as fast as he used to and he gets hurt every season.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mcnabb fails and soo does the Eagles lol
You guys are nothing more then a bunch of crybabies lol ya should’ve seen the look on ur faces when the raiders beat those weak azz eagles hahahaha!! Mcnabb is tooo old dude ,and stays hurt all the time :P
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by Suleku on Feb 2, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
either make up your mind
and pick a team or stop being an incessant troll who thinks he’s funny by mocking me ant other people. If you can’t be original when trying to be a smart ass then sit down and shut up.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
Thats not nice, I happen to like Donavon McNabb.
Thats what she said
by Remix. on Feb 3, 2010 3:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No surprise
You have a soft spot for the washed-up and 2nd Rate, e.g. Dick Seemore
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 3, 2010 5:18 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He should be gone
After all this team is horrible and needs a lot of pieces. As long as our owner is Al Davis we can expect nothing but being terrible and making terrible decisions every year. The Jets will probably sing Usain Bolt and then we will trade Asomugha straight up to start next to Heyward-Bey.
by raidernation151 on Feb 1, 2010 11:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm...
I would find it interesting if somehow, Rex Ryan gets called for “tampering”, we get a few of the Jets picks and trade those picks off to Carolina for Julius Peppers? Just a thought, That would be my route.
by Raider X on Feb 1, 2010 11:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Peppers
I doubt he would play particularly hard for the Raiders. I think he would be a coaster on the team he’s shown it in the past and I think unless he was playing of a contenteder then he’d be playing at half speed.
My scenario would be to get 1st, 2nd & 3rd round picks for Nam (heaven forbid we trade him…) plus what ever else we could get in the trade (next years 1st or 2nd as well?).
Then package up whatever combination you could for the Rams 1st and pick up Suh and we’d still have another 1st round pick for an OL…
by KiwiRaiderFan on Feb 2, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention.
Asomugha would be a terrible thing to lose.
by Raider X on Feb 1, 2010 11:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else think that Nam saying that he spoke to Ryan in the media
be his way of letting everyone know what is going on with Ryan exposing him in a way. Nam is a smart and articulate guy and it would seem very strange from what i know and have seen of him for him to say this without knowing what he is saying and the ramifications.
He also specifically said about Revis maybe coming to Oakland which im sure would be a dream for Mr Davis I would love to see that but i would hate to see Nam leave.
Also after watching the ‘JaMarcus quote’ interview with Nam again I just wanted to say that Dion Sanders is a Jackass and his, acting like he wants to be in oakland quote was disgusting and disrespectful and it was pretty clear Nam didnt appreciate it at all. It also annoys me how he acts like he is every players bff – DOUCHEBAG!!!!
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Feb 2, 2010 2:31 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Ha! That's very astute interpretation
Plus they teased him about his acting career, saying that his long tenure with the Raiders testifies to his acting potential. He may be one smart actor.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 5:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually...if you think about it
how awesome would it be if Nnamdi was deliberately trying to get a team in trouble for tampering so we could get more picks? That’s the best dam idea ever, and something that I could see Al cooking up.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 2, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well if they did that
and the NFL discovers it was a set up then we’d be in trouble. Tampering is a serious charge in the NFL and if charges are brought without some kind of substantiation then we’d be in trouble. I remember reading that last year when we were going to allegedly file tampering charges, possibly against the Jets, but I don’t fully recall.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but what kind of investigation could purge anything from Al? This is the Raiders organization we are talking about, not some sissy-Dolphins bullshit. Hell, I bet Al personally picks out all the weaklings and snitches as they apply for a job.
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 2, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
picks out and thusly kicks them out of the building
or releases the hounds…
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 2, 2010 5:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1 (but don't know what 'thusly' means)
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the adverb "thus" plus an adverbial intensifier - "-ly"
used widely in academic slang. I use it too.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes; on the other hand
Nnamdi doesn’t strike me as one marching under Al’s orders. No one knows, of course, why he did it, but he struck me as a deep file.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I read some more quotes about it
and I think it’s just talk and the media, which in turn us, are blowing it out of proportion. He’s mentioning it may happen in the future, or Revis may come here. It’s just all speculation and talk. And maybe some wishful thinking on Nnamid’s part. They said they talked to Rex Ryan, but was it through agents or just bull shitting standing in a parking lot? Just a thought.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Where do you draw the line?
Let’s say Revis Rex and Nam are shooting the shit and Ryan says, “You guys are something else, if I had you both, hell, with our rush defense there’d be nothing stopping us next year – holy cow – we’d go right through the Colts and whip whatever the NFC offered.” Just banter and casual conversation? Or is it salesmanship?
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be tampering
if the Jets talked to their agents or, if they represent themselves, to them about seriously hammering out a deal. Casual bull shitting or hypothesizing, to me, would seem to be less likely called tampering. Even if it is salesmanship, it’s nothing official so it wouldn’t be tampering.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 3, 2010 4:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Reasonable.
Anyway, Aso defused the affair by dismissing it as playful bantering.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 3, 2010 5:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The very idea i announced to my colleagues at work
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah?
Check what Nnamdi said about the whole hoopla:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?&entry_id=56540
Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said he was joking about playing for the Jets. But if he wondered what it would be like to deal with East Coast media, consider that door officially slammed shut.
Asomugha told The Chronicle today “the story is totally overblown” about him saying he wants to play for the Jets with Darrelle Revis.
Asomugha said this was a two-way joke that took on a life of its own in an ESPN story of it.
“The only thing we were ‘dead serious’ about was the fact that it would be fun to one day play on the same team,” Asomugha said by email. “That’s all. We were two guys enjoying the Pro Bowl and completely clowning around during the week. We were playfully recruiting each other; I was talking about getting him to Oakland and vice versa.”
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
this link (the one about Asomugha joking) contains also a scary bit about Janikowski
whose agent has been reportedly talking to the Raiders for quite some time.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm disappointed about that. My train of thought shifted along the lines of OZ
and even took it a step further – that Asomugha wasn’t just blowing the whistle on inappropriate (Ryan) behavior but connived to entrap the Jet’s for the greater good of the Raiders by ingeniously manipulating the system to get us extra draft picks. . fn. My tendency to suspect peoples’ character is validated and reinforced by this pedestrian and shallow revelation.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 2, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're giving anyone too much credit
Any man in sports is as loyal to a team as long as their contract is in play and to the extent that the contract requires.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 3, 2010 4:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, "the invisible hand of self-interest"
… isn’t so invisible.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 3, 2010 5:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Trading him makes me throw up a little
He’s the heart and soul of the team, stble veteran leadership, and the best corner in the league. I’d only trade him if we got Sanchez in return a long with Kerry Rhodes
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
by dubzfan on Feb 2, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
what bout the redskins?
i could see davis trading him to the redskins. now there is no way in hell you guys get porter from miami. but he is unhappy down there, if mcnabb gets traded it will be to san fran or minnesota
by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Porter
now there is no way in hell you guys get porter from miami.
That’s the way we want it, so that’s fine.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 2, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cam Inman
According to columnist Cam Inman, the Raiders should trade Asomugha.
I LOVE New York … as the next home of Nnamdi Asomugha, the Raiders’ Pro Bowl cornerback who apparently has his eye on joining the Jets.
Get rid of Nnamdi? The sanest voice in the NFL’s looniest locker room? The Raiders’ best player, at least among those who don’t kick a football for a living?
Yes, yes and yes. Do the deal, as long as Al Davis nabs a franchise-saving package of draft picks and players in return.
Asomugha’s value is sky high. The Raiders, since Asomugha’s rookie year of 2003, have been 6 feet under.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 2, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that we'll just fuck up the picks.
That’s why I hate when the Raiders trade for picks.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here is Kawakami's response to Inman
Nnamdi Asomugha is sorta stuck. So he’s having fun with it. Asomougha’s making ridiculous money as a Raiders hostage/shutdown corner, the only reason he’s still here is that Al Davis is paying him ridiculous money, and Nnamdi knows he probably won’t ever win while in this situation. He’s too smart not to realize all of this.
So what does he do? He plays briefly in the Pro Bowl, then tells an ESPN.com reporter than he and Darrelle Revis have been talking about joining up, either on the Raiders (no chance) or on the Jets (hmm).
My colleague Cam Inman is all for trading Asomugha, if the Raiders could recoup a huge bounty in return, and Cam is onto something there. It would make sense to explore that, since it’s not like the Raiders are piling up division titles with Asomugha on the roster.
But any trade is massively unlikely for several reasons:
a) Al Davis ACQUIRES great players, he does does not trade away great players, unless he absolutely has to, and even then he resists it. (Remember, Al traded a future No. 1 for Richard Seymour last year, when adding Seymour wasn’t exactly the final piece to a title team. Al did it anyway, because HE thought Seymour was the final piece to a title team.) Randy Moss only was traded when it became 1,000% clear that he’d quit on the Raiders somewhere in the middle of his short stint, and Al still regrets trading Randy away. Trading away Asomugha would be an admission by Al that the Raiders aren’t the place for great players. He will never admit that, even if it’s true.
b) What would the Jets give up for Asomugha? Impossible to come up with a fair trade, also when you factor in…
c) Despite the tantalizing prospect of an upcoming year without a salary cap, no team can easily gulp up Asomugha’s mega-salary, even the Jets, who also have to pay Revis at some point, and various other players.
by Spirals galore on Feb 2, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interestin and informative
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 2, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Papa
On Chronicle Live, he said that trading Nnamdi Asomugha would be like the Minnesota Twins trading Joe Mauer. Honestly, I don’t see the connection other than both players are the best at their respective positions in their respective sports.
The Raiders are not like the Twins, so that’s one angle from where you have to look at things. The Twins are a playoff team. The Raiders are not. As far as the positions go, cornerback isn’t like catcher in baseball. Above average catchers are pretty rare. Joe Mauer is not only above average, but a Hall of Fame catcher at a young age. Cornerbacks aren’t as rare.
It’s probably not important, but I just wanted to point it out. I really like Greg Papa and everything, but he’s pretty far apart on that analogy.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 2, 2010 9:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
so like when they say Nnamdi might possibly be the best shutdown corner since Primetime without even mentioning Champ isnt saying that CBs are rare?. papa isnt talking about above average players hes talkin about trading away great players.
by ToeSocks on Feb 3, 2010 2:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cornerbacks and Catchers
Cornerbacks are not as rare as catchers. It’s that simple.
When you factor in the way our defense is and the shape of our team in terms of record, you realize that Asomugha isn’t that valuable to wins and losses. If you can get really good value back, your team should benefit; however, you can’t really get equal value for Joe Mauer back because he’s a catcher and they’re rare.
You can replace cornerbacks. It’s not easy to replace Asomugha if you can replace him at all, but for the most part, you can replace cornerbacks. That’s why I made the comparison from catchers to cornerbacks.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 3, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
thats bullshit hes tampering with oalands best
corner the league needs to give us the jets 1st and 3rd round picks for that shit
by bmth56 on Feb 3, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
shut up.
There’s an entire article covering that.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 3, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
u guys
know that asomugha was joking right?
i made a fanshot with the website
by raiderfan4life on Feb 3, 2010 6:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes it's been covered
no reason to plug your own posted fanshot.
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by mikesd1981 on Feb 3, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
see, that's one thing I like about you
you call people on posting already discussed stuff.
by Spirals galore on Feb 3, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Asomugha
hell no he’s one thing we do have going for us why would we take another step backwards are problems are with are recievers we need a good vet let go of some of the draft pics and russell while some of the talk makes sense were talking about the wrong players
by Jameshos on Feb 24, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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