Franchise and Transition Tag Deadline: Ten Days Left
The Oakland Raiders have some decisions to make in the very near future. The deadline to impose the franchise tag or transition tag -- you can only each tag once per year now though there is a catch -- is looming being just 10 days away. February 25 is fast approaching and the Raiders have unsurprisingly remained noncommittal up to this point even though reports have stated that the Raiders won't let their guys get away, or at least they don't want to.
Players in limbo on this whole thing are kicker Sebastian Janikowski and defensive end Richard Seymour. If a long-term can't be reached for either player, what should Oakland do?
Being the best kicker in the league, the Raiders would obviously love to keep Sebastian Janikowski around for some years to come with that powerful leg. If the league and the players association aren't able to reach a new labor agreement by March 5, the Raiders can use the transition tag on Janikowski if they want to save the franchise tag for Richard Seymour. That tag would pay Janikowski $2.629 million next season. Although instead of using the transition tag on Janikowski, I'd like to see a long-term deal on the table with our star kicker.
The price for the franchise tag is $12.398 million for Richard Seymour, a hefty price to pay. Why should the Raiders pay it? Well, we did give up a first-round pick in 2011 for the guy. Letting him walk after just one year would be a monumental waste of a draft pick and a trade. Personally, I don't think Al Davis would do that because admitting a mistake on a trade isn't something I think he'll do here. I expect Seymour to be back in 2010 with or without a long-term deal, so expect that franchise tag to be exercised before the deadline.
Basically, in short, Janikowski's tag would be inexpensive and Seymour's would be pricey. As for me, I'd save that $12 million we would have to spend if we slapped a tag on Seymour and instead use it in the long-term deal to keep Janikowski around. I think he has earned it and Seymour has not.
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Janikowski wins games, he's automatic - a lock
Clearly, Dick is marginal at best. I am astonished by the votes cast for him (against Sebastian). We are going to be in many many close games next year and Janikowski will be the decisive difference. Friends don’t let friends vote irresponsibly – break their fingers only as a last resort.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 15, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions
Go with Jano
Seymore had a tendency to disappear in games, Janikowski has become one of the more reliable kickers with far and away the best leg strength. He is worth more to the team with his numerous touchbacks than Seymore with his occasional QB pressure and sacks. They say that kickers and punters are interchangeable around the league but that does not go for the Raiders, though many teams would love to have the Sebass on their team. Janikowski is one of the strengths of the Raiders and they need to hang on to him for sure.
The whole defense disappeared in some games
not just Seymour. I’m not blaming him or anyone else on the D for that though. Let’s be honest, if you knew you had to keep the opposing team to less that 14 points or you knew you would loose beacause the offense can’t score then you’d “disappear” in games too. Especially when the other team had put points up and your O just did it’s 3rd three-and-out in a row…
by KiwiRaiderFan on Feb 15, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
Have to got with Dick
Hes more important to the team. A Pro Bowl DE who can play DT when needed, More important than a kicker. Kickers can be picked up in the draft easily, not players like Seymour
BR3AKF4 St 0N CR4ACK
Seymour is a pro bowl Lineman
He brought leadership and helped our defense out a lot and wants to win. Slap it on him, Seabass is a KICKER. A damn good one but a kicker none the less. Sign Sea Bass is not a hard thing to do, Seymour is
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
yeah, it's hard to see Janikowski wanting to play anywhere else, either
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Tjhe Nation needs to speak softly, and carry on its roster, a big Dick
Al will do what he has to do to keep the guys he wants to keep; he’s never had a problem with the checkbook, and pulls off miracles to the astonishment of media and fans alike. Sadly, sometimes he pulls all those dollars out of his a$$ and shoves it into the bank accounts of slouches.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
If I felt the same way as you, I might envy this nifty phraseology
But the man is a burned out brontosaurus fit more for the refinery than the field.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 15, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
While I see your frustration with Richard, I argue it is largely unfounded, Sons
This guy consistently drew double teams when no other single lineman we had did. I believe if we also moved to another scheme that found Richard primarily in special assignments at tackle and mostly rushing on the exterior, he’d beat the double teams he’d draw more often than not. He has a lot of football left in him, and possesses the desire to be a great football player, whether for this squad or its “tuck rule” counterpart on the east coast.
I believe, as you are full aware, that Al will be remiss to not keep big Richard around considering the high price he paid with the first round pick next year (this could be brilliant considering how much cash a guy could get in the first round next year) and will somehow absorb the admittedly high almost $13 million price tag for the year.
I have to finish by saying, I believe no matter how much you hate on him, or however creatively you are able to do so! Big Dick will prove you wrong!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
True, I did like how seymour drew double teams and made some tackles, catalyzed a sack or tackle for loss etc., he's good. Pay the man
The RaiderLaker
The leadership he brought, with Greg Ellis, is immeasurable
and impossible to see how we’d go had he not been a roster addition when he became one. I think the first round pick trade will prove todemonstrate something no team will want in 2011: the high unprecedented millions an uncapped year will create in contracts for first round picks.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Assuming 1st round rookies are guaranteed more than the $12.6 Million that Dick will cost us - you make a good point
moreover, if we go to a 3-4 as we should, ‘Dino’ will be more useful than he was this season. So, thank you, for helping me look at him in the best possible light.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 15, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone know the hypothetical tag number
for Seymour and Seabass?
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
Tag Prices
Using the transition tag would obligate the Raiders to pay Janikowski $2.629 million in 2010.
Using the tag on Seymour would obligate the Raiders to pay him $12.398 million for 2010.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 16, 2010 6:20 AM PST up reply actions
You are very patient
That seemed to be a question for question’s sake…
by Spirals galore on Feb 16, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
Ironic he signed today, for better than that, huh?
I think I voted for using the tag on Richard, and said Al wouldn’t hesitate to pull out his checkbook for the Polish cannon!
Too funny!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Al would probably
drop money on genetic experiments to create the ultimate nfl player. He’ll get jamarcus and mcfadden fused together, and then the experiment will fail(hope you guys catch the slight reference).
by patriotguy2 on Feb 16, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
If you can only do one, it has to be Janikowski
Not only is it cheaper to franchise a kicker, without him you would actually hurt one of the strengths of the team in the kicking game. This team cannot afford to lose ground in that area, especially if the offense can make even slight improvements throughout the year games may come down to those booming kicks of his.
When you look at the long term, it’s obvious SeaBass still has a lot of years left at a high level, whereas Seymour may start to fall off some. As much as we need DL help, continuing to overpay Seymour at the expense of the other DL positions would hurt more than help.
No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.
Looks like this debate is irrelevant
now that Janokowski has resigned according to reports.
No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.
by S Jay Bruin on Feb 16, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
locked in with the best FGK in the league for 4 years - Great Job Al!!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 16, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
That's ok
I can’t stand the Merc anyways
No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.
by S Jay Bruin on Feb 16, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't go that far to say great job Al
It’s for $16 mil for 4 years. He’s a very good kicker but he’s on one of the league’s worst offenses so his value isn’t really going to translate into the pay he’s given. He could have been paid about $3 or we could’ve gotten a kicker in the draft for far less. $4 could have gone to a valuable free agent signing (for example: Tra Thomas at LT or Scott Fujita at ILB). Someone who could help now that would come cheap but that’s just my opinion.
See this is why we can keep losing for 20 years and people can raiders fans crazy. There is no way in hell you pick a kick over a d-line. You guys want to keep a back-up QB because he started when we beat the steelers and bengals. This is just crazy guys we all want change on this team but I see the same old stuff. We sign a kick but we still dont have a qb.
Seymour
i believe all know why(not because i’m a pats fan).
*(not because i'm a pats fan as well)
I believe in being specific.
Feel free to practice your belief on your other statement
(voted for) Seymour…I believe all know why
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 17, 2010 5:55 AM PST up reply actions
Al should give Seymour(who’s a leader for our defense and wants to win unlike JR) whatever contract he wants. Our D needs leaders and he’s one of them.
this could be categorized as both foolish, and believing in the team,
when he said that they’ll make the playoffs. I believe our defense next year will lead a storm.
by patriotguy2 on Feb 17, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions

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