Report: Pendergast quits Raiders for Cal coordinator job
Oh well, that didn't last long...
Early this month, former Chiefs defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast accepted a job with the Oakland Raiders as their secondary coach.
It didn't last long.
Pendergast has reportedly left the Raiders to become the defensive coordinator at Cal. The defensive coordinator job at Cal opened up on Wednesday, when Bob Gregory quit to become the defensive coordinator at Boise State, and Cal moved quickly to get Pendergast, who won't have to move out of the Bay Area.
Pendergast is heading back to school after 15 years as an NFL assistant. He has previously been an assistant with the Cardinals, Browns, Cowboys and Oilers.
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If its true
He could have left for the right reasons we all look out for own best interests. I imagine all of us would do the same if 1. Offered more money or more responsibility with the possibility of more money and oppurtunities later on down the road 2. Have an opportunity for more stability as we all know the college ranks are far more forgiving and have far more time and patience for performing. In the NFL it is always what have you done for me today and what will you be doing for me tomorrow 3. Maybe he got a taste of some Raider inside polotics and did not like the dynamics of the organization.
I will not bare him any ill will we all would do what is in our best interest and he probably did.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Feb 19, 2010 10:46 AM PST reply actions
I agree.
Any of us might have done the same thing when it comes to providing for ourselves and families. Because of his actions it seems that he was likely to go and if that’s the case, better now than later.
Depends on your family
“Any of us might have done the same thing when it comes to providing for ourselves and families.”
If you’re Clancy Penderdergast your family isn’t the Raiders.
p.s. that name of his doesn’t fit Oakland; he’s better off on Berkeley’s campus.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
What?
p.s. that name of his doesn’t fit Oakland; he’s better off on Berkeley’s campus.
What does that mean?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 19, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah i got carried away, I thaught he just bailed like that other guy (kiffin's assistant that left)
But I wonder If he would have coached well to vastly improve the secondary but now my dreams are shattered…
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Good Hire
Speaking from the perspective of a Cal fan, I’m actually glad that Pendergast went over there. He has done a good job of coaching defensive backs and Cal’s pass defense is the weakness of that defense. I think Cal needs him more than the Raiders do.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 19, 2010 11:36 AM PST reply actions
Whoa
Do you watch The Secret Life of the American Teenager?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 19, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Although the show has gotten dry a bit and it revolves around one central storyline, I’m still drawn to it weekly and am addicted for life.
I also watch Degrassi: The Next Generation, but I unfortunately did not catch the last episode.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 19, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Ah
It’s quite all right.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 19, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
So, any predictions on who the next coach hire might be?
anybody?
Wait for it… wait for it….
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Someone with NFL DB playing experience would be better
or, even better, Al continues his hot streak and signs a real HC.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 19, 2010 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
it can't be a considered a hot streak
if a guy is willing to abandon ship in just over 2 weeks.
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On the contrary, when you're hot things work out for the best. Think about it, pendergast wasn't williing to commit
to a 1-year deal, i.e. tie his future to Cable whose doomed to fail because he’s an oaf. But Clancy wasn’t that great to begin with so there’s nothing lost and Al has a data point that assistant coaches are leery of Cable. Because, as you know, when a HC gets fired most of the assistants also get pink slips.
fn. ironic b/c Al is the exception to that rule and has kept assistants on even when HCs were booted and new HCs had to keep the incumbent assistant. Again, Al is not like other owners/GMs.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 20, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Cable...
is not going anywhere at this point. I do think it has been set up for Hue to take his place if Russel doesn’t develop within the first 4-6 games though. Jackson should control the team before mid-season since JaFumbles doesn’t care about anything besides his $$$$.
I just hope Hue can work miracles!
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Jackson should control the team before mid-season since JaFumbles doesn’t care about anything besides his $$$$.
Many suppose Jackson came in to help Russell. So if Russell doesn’t produce, wouldn’t that fall upon Jackson’s shoulders?
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No.
I think it’s Al’s way to get rid of JR.
by Spirals galore on Feb 20, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
ugh
Al is in charge, he doesn’t need to make run around decisions to make a decision. If he wanted Russell gone, he’d be gone.
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some legal considerations
may be at play. I’ll go check employment and labor law to find out.
by Spirals galore on Feb 21, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions
probation policy
http://www.allbusiness.com/human-resources/workforce-management-termination/1074-1.html
Your company should also have some kind of probation policy. In other words, if an employee is not meeting expectations and is failing on the job, he or she should receive a warning in writing, which is then kept in his or her personnel file.
If you give the employee a verbal warning, you must remember to document this as well. Don’t rely on your memory to maintain a record; write down what you said quickly following the conversation. Hopefully, the below par performance will improve after such a formal reprimand. If, however, the employee continues to perform poorly, it is important to prove that he or she received prior notice from a manager.
by Spirals galore on Feb 21, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
So you think Al is building a "for cause" file on Russell and Hue Jackson's assessment of Russell
will give Al the leverage needed to extricate the Raiders from the JR burden. That could be, plus Al may even have lingering doubts about Russell and be seeking 3rd party assessment before pulling the plug on hm; add to that Al’s sensitivity about the league’s characterization of him as someone who acts erratically and the move to bring in Jackson to also act as point-man making the call on JR makes sense.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 21, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
yes.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12950449/five-assistant-coaches-who-will-impact-their-new-teams:
Jackson will tell the Raiders if Russell is beyond repair. If he can get through, maybe Oakland salvages a draft choice and finds a quarterback; if he doesn’t, the Raiders can’t say they didn’t try.
by Spirals galore on Feb 21, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
They can't say they didn't try now
they brought in Ted Tollner and Paul Hackett and played the guy half a season. There was no improvement. When he came in for Gradkowski he was still bad and lost some very winnable games. This is about Davis’ inability to admit a mistake.
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Probation policy is a legal requirement.
And labor law is more convoluted than employment law.
Whether Al has decided finally to terminate JR or not is open to speculation. You don’t believe it’s likely. That’s fine, but why get so worked up if others speculate otherwise?
At any rate – Al Davis could be criticized in more precise and less sweeping terms. If one tried.
by Spirals galore on Feb 21, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Because you're bringing
stuff up that may or may not exist for a reason I can’t guess. It seems you’re trying to justify a reason that Russell is still there, even though that reason is simply Davis’ pride. The NFL works with a union for the players. Does probation effect the players? I doubt it. But I can’t confirm that any more than you can that labor laws directly effect the NFL. They would fall under an independent contractor. The coaches could fall under a probation clause. It’s simple. Al has the choice to continue with the failing experiment or release the guy. He’s making the choice to continue with him because he seems to think Russell can turn around despite everything we’ve seen so far and his recent interview. If you think he’s decided to let Russell go then give more probable reasons than far reaching federal labor laws. It’s been 3 years. Or research your ideas and see if the labor law applies to NFL players. Don’t just throw ideas out there. Players get cut all the time. Without even taking a regular season snap with the team. So it seems the probation idea fails.
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However
it does seem some laws do apply as in the suspension with 2 players for the Vikings. But that has to do with drug testing. I googled a lot to see if any other federal laws apply to the NFL and I found nothing.
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this very recent lawsuit
deals with a very specific problem but as usual, the ruling will end up having wide implications for the status of NFL:
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
So what does that have to do with releasing someone. If an independent contractor that was working for you, say delivering products, always delivered broken products or never delivered on time or the right place, and you had a contract for them that they would be guaranteed a certain buy out of some kind, would you not be allowed to fire them? Or is that against the law? I don’t see how you’re making a labor connection here to the NFL when players are cut all the time mid-contract.
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wow
you are a fast reader! This is a 100+-page legal article…
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 7:08 AM PST up reply actions
You linked an article and didn’t summarize or point out something I should look for. I read it. So make the connection.
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It seems you’re trying to justify a reason that Russell is still there
Why do you think I am trying to do so, Mike – are you apprehensive that I may be an Al lover? Is this what it’s al about?
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 6:23 AM PST up reply actions
no
you make some far reaching comments, like bringing in the probation thing, about certain topics and it’s too hard to keep up because they’re so left field. Scattered throughout your comments are about Davis trying to get rid of Russell. And some of your comments sound like you’re trying to give a reason that Davis hasn’t let him go yet.
From this comment on :
No.
I think it’s Al’s way to get rid of JR.
You’re trying to make it sound that Davis needs a reason to get rid of Russell. Which there’s enough reason in his playing that he can be released. The team doesn’t even like the guy.
Then you bring up the probation thing, which may or may not make sense w/ the NFL, and I don’t think it applies to the players.
I don’t understand that you can’t wrap your mind around the fact that Russell is still there cuz Davis doesn’t want to admit he’s wrong. It has nothing to do with probation or having to bring 3, now, people to work w/ the guy to back his decision. He can cut whoever he wants. He doesn’t have to submit his choice to a NFL panel to get it approved. Some players get cut in the preseason. It happens because they don’t work out.
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Elaborate
and provide sources for your statement that “the probation thing does not make sense in the NFL” or “apply to the players.”
Also – give me hard evidence about pride being the single reason behind Al Davis’ decisions.
You don’t know what I am trying to do or not – you speculate about my reasons (and you are wrong). What you could have said is that my statements, regardless of how I intend them, may be leading some people to believe, etc. Then you could possibly have a case against me being a reckless blogger.
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
I did elaborate
to the point that I couldn’t find anything that the labor laws apply to the NFL. And neither have you sited anything except for a lawsuit about antitrust. My link about the Vikings law suit is more labor based than an antitrust law suit. And your link does not specify how if the NFL is 1 or 32 entities could effect any labor rules. And neither of us know how the rules apply to the NFL. But I would imagine that a player wouldn’t be on probation. They try out for a team and get selected or not. Just like Sutherland did for 24.
My reason of saying pride for Davis is an opinion based on watching his track record.
give me hard evidence that the labor laws apply to the NFL players.
No I don’t what you’re trying to do or not because you’re not clarifying your point. I never called you a reckless blogger or even insinuated. Quote me where I EVER did that. Please do not accuse me of something I do not do.
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I like the serious conversation
and the determination and depth you pursue. I actually end up leaning quite a bit.
About Al – I don’t like the guy but even megalomaniacs have clusters of reasons. Pride may be the chief one in his case; however that doesn’t mean other reasons are lacking. We’ve drummed the pride ad infinitum, so I am curious about his other reasons, if there are any.
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Al really cares what the league thinks
or he’d be making better decisions. If he cared what the league thought of him, would he really be tempted to go after someone like DHB and endure the ridicule he’s received? Developing a for cause file on Russell is absurd. If Davis was willing to admit he made a mistake, he’d release him right now and we’d move on. If Davis needs to do a run around like this to let go of a player that obviously isn’t cutting it then it’s time for him to step down as GM and hire one.
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wow
a 3 year probation period. Freaking AWESOME!
That’s bull. You sign a contract to do a job. If you don’t meet the incentives, you don’t get the incentive bonuses. If you don’t perform the job, there would be a clause usually to release someone from a job. The fact isn’t that Al is looking for a reason to release Russell. He’s looking for a reason to KEEP Russell. Right now our best QB is Gradkowski, which I’m fine with, but because Davis doesn’t want to admit a mistake we’ll be stuck w/ Russell 2 to 4 games again and have to work our way out of a whole. All he has to do is buy Russell out for the year. There’s no rule how long someone has to be ON a team before cutting them, only a time frame windows of when it’s allowed. Are you trying to justify Davis’ choice of keeping Russell or what?
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No argument that Al can release him any time he wants. I was considering getting out of the deal
without having to pay Russell anything else – that’s what building a file “for cause” referred to. It’s wishful thinking and only a long shot. Russell will probably start a couple of games and we might not lose too badly.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 21, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think
with players he can get out paying them what they’re to earn for that year based on their playing. If they committed acts detrimental to the team, then he may have case, but it’d still have to go to to court, and while Al does love court rooms, it may be cheaper and easier to pay them and say see ya. I don’t really think he has anything on Russell “for cause”. I think we’ll see 4 games, where he progressively gets worse.
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you are right - "for cause" is the wrong legal term here
so far.
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 6:25 AM PST up reply actions
It would simply be for
lack of production. The guy isn’t doing his job effectively, he leaves.
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this is exactly where the "probation policy" applies
Plus, in many termination cases (e.g., Jacques v. DiMarzio), the problem has been present for decades, but the employer decides to take action only after public complaints about the problem.
by Spirals galore on Feb 22, 2010 6:50 AM PST up reply actions
what
does this have to do w/ the NFL. I don’t see a connection. I haven’t seen any confrontations reported that would connect to the sited case. And other players on other teams have fought and even hated other members on their same team. And do these same rules apply to the NFL or not? Clarify your connection to keeping Russell. I don’t get it.
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We don't need him anyway
The Cheifs secondary has been horrible, I don’t know if this guy would have brought much to the table anyway.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
+ 1
Willie Brown left us in the lurch when Cable wasn’t fired as he expected. Pendergast was a stop-gap filler replacement like Cable himself. We dodged a bullet and Al is on a role – seemingly protected by a higher power.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 20, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you're on to something. Pendergast didn't stay b/c he caught wind that the Raider HC's job was hanging by a thread
the man did mention family and security didn’t he? So, it becomes obvious that I am probably wrong, for underestimating Al’s “comeback” and the imminent firing of Tom Cable. Thank you, for raising my spirits. I shall now perform my ablutions, make my toilet and retire.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 20, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
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