To tag or not to tag: Rich is the question

someone out there is looking for a good DE, and will surely pass a blue chip OL and a pick for him. we have enough DE’s, not enough quality O-line.

      However, Trading for him may get us a “reguar” O-Lineman, and maybe a 2nd round Pick, depending on which team we trade him to. Honestly, The D-Line performance depends on if we can stop the run, and we do have enough pass rushers. Also, that is too much damn money.

     But, Even if we get the 2nd round draft pick and such, unless we put that to use, and solve the D-Line problem this year, you’ll hear the usual Michael Lombardi – Warren Sapp – etc. bashers mention this thing over and over, then if the D-Line becomes worse, we’ll hear more of the “Off with Al’s head” Garbage, etc. I say do what you must, but it BETTER turn into something high.

Both Poll options make it look like we dislike Dick no matter which one we choose. I voted no, Only because he could be used as trade bait. If Al Tags him. He better have a career year though

but this deal is done, bro. He’s not going anywhere, so we should count on spending the other 90.2 wisely.

We’ll see some healthy salaries cut due to poor performance, especially if the uncapped year happens, freeing up a lot of dollars for other guys. I don’t see spent money being worth discussion, and though I don’t think he’s worth that much jack, I don’t hate Seymour at all. The only guy to draw consistent double teams on the roster, and he did provide a lift to the D and the locker room.

The raiders are not going to trade richard seymore and he is going to be here for there time being. Yea he had a sub par year last year, but look at who he had supporting him on that line and the fact that he was constantly being double teamed. He is still a very good player who brings alot to this team. The way i see it they will tag him this year and if he improves his numbers next year, they will give him his last big contract.

He has averaged 45.1 tackles, and 4.8 tackles over nine seasons. last year he had 47 tackles and 4 sacks, pretty averages numbers for him. he will never be a high sack guy (8 is his season high). its not flashy but that’s who he is. BTW in 08 he had 51 tackles and 8 sacks, wouldn’t say that these numbers show him being in decline. I will say this however i don’t believe he is worth Haynesworth money, but he is a valuable peice on this team that we should not let get away … Especially since it cost us a 1st rounder just to get him.

No the tackles i cite are his total, 31 solo 16 assists. let me ask you this …. name two players on that defense better than Seymour, Nnamdi is better but he is clearly our second best defensive player. 4.8 may not be much but this guy like you said is a five time probowl player which means im not the only one who thinks he is a very good player. whether you like it or not he is valuable to this team and if you let him go this defense will only get worse.

you have got to be kidding me … seymour is subjected to many double teams which allowed Ellis and Scott to get to the QB. tyvon branch had a great year but he is not better than a five time pro bowler. Huff, Morrison and Howard – i hope your not serious Huff has improved but again was not more valuable to the team than Seymour … Morrison and Howard simply do nothing at all to help a very bad run defense. If you simply dont like Seymour just leave it at that because you are clearly basing all of your arguments on your personal preference, not actual facts.

Al is not mulling letting him walk. If you understood anything about Al Davis you would not have even mentioned it. Show me any example at any point in Raiders history where Al Davis has traded for a player and then let him go as a free agent the next season. Hasn’t happened. What is the return on investment? If he pays players he doesn’t like millions to sit on the bench , what would be Al’s motivation to let his best DE walk.

You harp on the same topics and never back up anything with an idea worth it’s salt.
You’re a sad case if you think Seymour will lose his starting position to anyone else on the roster or incoming rookie.

You’re a sad case judging a guy by 4 sacks and 30 tackles. What is he supposed to do, be a raging animal and do the work of everyone else? Never mind. You’re next article will be a rant against franchising him so you’ll just repeat the same points you made here.

I think his value as a leader transends his on field statistics and it’s not like we have an abundance of superbowl champions who can help this young team learn how to win.

Nothing ridiculous but get him signed some how some way

that because he was running “good routs” and drawing double coverage that he was freeing up the other receivers but we all know he still sucked………drawing double coverage doesnt make a player worth 12.4 mil$ drawing double coverage and getting on top of the QB anyway does…..this being said i think that richard can still do very well with a better supporting cast…but you have to be open to trading him depending on what we could get.

After waisting a first rounder on him. We either franchise him and trade him, or sign him long term and keep him. Knowing old Al, this guy is going to get the largest contract in the history of D linemen. Then we can have 2 of the highest paid, lowest performing D linemen in the NFL playing right next to each other! Whoo Hoo!

I’m for the trade bait scenario. If Oakland gets a 2nd & a 3rd which I believe he is worth then it would work out. Ellis played well, Shaunessy & Bryant played well as rookies & Scott can be used as a hybrid. Also if we trade down in the draft which won’t happen we could get the kid from Michigan at DE & still pick up much-needed picks.

but I doubt Al will do that so we have him for another year along with the other $9.5 million owed to Jamarcus…ugh. I just say cut all our losses & try to get value for those we can do without.

Get what we can for him, and let him go. Is my 2 cents. I assume it wont be much.

Tagging him would be foolish, which basically means Al davis will in fact tag him. He can never admit making an error.

Can someone explain why we gave up a 1st rd pick for him? Not to mentuion a Raiders 1st rd pick. which means the Pats will have a top 10 selection next year. Its not as if we were one player away last season from making the playoffs. We were like 9 players, 1 off play caller, and 1 new owner away from being a playoff team. Another head scratcher brought to you by the genious Al Davis…

when the lights were shining bright and there was a pcked house he played awesome it was when the team was mathmatically eliminated and the fans no longer showed and the team was being embarrasses with JR at QB that his play tailed off… i know how good he played agaionst the chargers and the eagles when he played with passion and that is the player i watched for years in New england(i live in ct) so he is worth th tag but i hope a four year deal can be worked out

There is no way he is worth the $12 Mill. I would hope we do some sort of sign and trade or just watch him go quietly into that night. I dont think he wants to be in Oakland, I am actually certain if this. All that you have to do is look at how he was sandbagging his trade by not showing up, making reasons for not checking in etc etc when the trade was finalized.
We pour so much shit money into so many over rated players on our team it is so disgusting.
Take a quick look at the roster and every player but one making 8 digits or the high 7 digit salaries blows. I dont think Dick will play up to the contract at all.
Spend the $12 mill on 2-4 other players at different positions and get value for money.
Goddamnnit does anyone really think we should spend this kind of money on him when you sit back and take a look at what else could be available on FA market or in the draft? Or could we not give a guy on the roster now a shot at the DE position? Or offer Dick a somewhat term deal? 4 years at 6 mill/year 15 guaranteed that is very reasonable in my opinion take it or leave it. Lets get our collective heads out of our asses and make some better roster choices and draft choices.
I fucking hate the NE patriots but they have been very smart in how they draft and keep VITAL players without just throwing boat loads of $$$ at half assed players with shit on field attitudes and performances. We can do better and pay less I am certain let the sack of shit go if he wants.