Rumor Mill: Anquan Boldin on the Trade Market
by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 11:57 AM PST
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Anquan Boldin's days in Arizona appear to be numbered. [via rodonline.typepad.com]
Yes, I know that most rumors aren't true; however, this one seems pretty legitimate to me. According to Aaron Wilson, an insider for the Baltimore Ravens, Arizona Cardinals general manager Rod Graves is listening to offers for wide receiver Anquan Boldin. Again, not all rumors are true and it's interesting to note that someone covering the Ravens has picked this up. The Ravens, though, are certainly interested in acquiring a big name wide receiver for young stud quarterback Joe Flacco. Also, we've definitely heard Boldin's name before in trade talks.
Hit the jump to see some details and then vote on the poll.
Rotoworld had this to say on their NFL headlines:
Graves' comments seemed to indicate that there's nothing in the works right now, but Boldin is a prime candidate to be moved in a draft-weekend trade. The Ravens and Dolphins are expected to show interest, and there are sure to be a couple of surprise teams intrigued by Boldin as well.
We've explored some of our own trade possibilities around here concerning Nnamdi Asomugha and a report about almost our whole roster being on the market.
I'm sure you can put two and two together here by now. A star receiver in Boldin is available and there have been a few reports out there about us getting involved in trading, so there could be something brewing here down the line.
A young stud between Louis Murphy and Chaz Schilens would have to be involved. [via cdn2.sbnation.com]
The Oakland Raiders have some young talent at wide receiver with guys like Chaz Schilens and Louis Murphy. We've also drafted some guy from Maryland with the seventh overall pick recently. But back to the young talent, we have Schilens and Murphy. A guy like Anquan Boldin -- who has the capability of stepping in right away and being the number one target -- can really boost the wide receiver corps, give a quarterback confidence and also give him a legitimate go-to guy at all times.
If there is a knock on Boldin, it's the injuries. Looking back over the years recently, Boldin missed four games due to injury in both 2007 and 2008 and missed just one game in the regular season in 2009. Through it all, with the high-powered Cardinals attack, Boldin has performed very well. In his seven years in the league, Boldin has averaged just under 84 receptions per season. Last season, Raiders wide receivers combined to catch the ball a whopping 99 times although it wasn't entirely their fault.
Through it all, I think this something that we have to at least kick the tires on despite Boldin in the last year of his contract. Of course, he'd have to sign an extension. Boldin is very explosive and gives us a boost where we need one and that's in the passing game. I like Schilens and Murphy, but I don't know if either one of those two guys can reach the level of an Anquan Boldin. Lastly, I reiterate that we need to at least kick the tires on this.
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Once we decide what we're doing with Walker
I’ll form an opinion about bringing in Boldin. Also, it’s a trade. What are the terms and would they be worth it?
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Trade Terms
Well, I don’t have any specific scenarios out there yet. Draft picks, I assume, would be involved. I don’t know what the Cardinals are really looking for, but they have a free agent linebacker (Karlos Dansby) and we have a free agent linebacker (Kirk Morrison). Looking at the cornerbacks and stating the obvious, they have Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and we have Nnamdi Asomugha.
With that said, if dialogue began between the two teams, I think progress could be made.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
Do you know what Boldin is getting right now?
And I understand it’s uncapped this year, but the Raiders still need to watch the dollar signs. So if we’re gonna keep Walker for another year, then I’m not sure Boldin would be a good idea. Because we need more help elsewhere. However, if we release Walker, then possibly. I’m afraid we’ll keep Walker and not use him again.
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Boldin
According to a May ESPN report:
With Rosenhaus as his agent, Boldin signed a four-year, $22.75 million extension with Arizona in August 2006, a deal that keeps him under contract through the 2010 season. He has a base salary of about $2.75 million next season and $3 million in 2010.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
He is a good wide reciever
I recognize the fact that Boldin is a good wide reciever. But what would we trade for him? What good is he going to do if we don’t have a quarterback that can throw him the ball? What good is a good quarterback going to do if we don’t have a line that can block for him? Catch my drift? I think we have needs in other area’s that need to be adressed before a wide reciever. Just saying…..
Valid Points
What good is he going to do if we don’t have a quarterback that can throw him the ball? What good is a good quarterback going to do if we don’t have a line that can block for him?
We have a quarterback if Gradkowski is back under center. We had good wins over Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and Denver with that offensive line and the offensive line will get better with the addition of a draft pick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
He would be a fine addition to Louis and Chaz, not if we had to let one of them go, and I agree with you and Mike
What do we really have to offer? Furthermore, what they’d want? They’re already shopping Dansby.
It’s like you said, though; he’s too serious a talent to not consider the trade, and at least entertain the possiblities. I just see very few realistic ones.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I'm just hoping
that Al doesn’t see this and get all googled eyed again on his talent and make a decision that could hurt us in the long run in other positions.
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You and I know his penchant for 40 times!
Let’s just hope it’s exclusive to those in the 4.3 or below range…
I believe the draft is just too stacked and is almost harder to go wrong, and there are other factors (i.e. our picks) that make this a draft where we can and should come out a better team, notwithstanding Al’s propensity to reach.
That said, I still expect to be completely pissed by at least one pick! I pray it’s not on Thursday!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
And that's why I keep
saying we need a competent GM. And you’ll notice I try to always include the word competent when I mention a GM. Not just a Al Davis puppet GM (or “football guy….”). We need a guy that can assess talent and pick proper talent. Of course no one is perfect, and I’m sure mistakes will be made. It happens. But it just seems that lately Davis is missing more than hitting with his decisions. And until we get someone that can reason with him and help him out, I don’t think we’re going to get any farther than we are. We’re in a rut and we’re being stagnant. And those 2 together are quit dangerous.
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You are correct. The players are taken around a philosophy.
If Al is taking these, he’s doing so around a philosophy that won’t work in today’s game. Watch what Bruce Allen does for the Redskins. Holmgren for Cleveland. Parcells for the fins.
They’ll install a philosophy, build the team that lives it, and start winning games; I fear you are accurate in that we’ll simply repeat mistakes past until this dynamic is changed.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
We can't.
Listen..I like Boldin, I really do. But after working with Kurt Warner, do you really THINK he wants to work with a team with a QB roster as unstable as ours? Before y’all say anything, THINK ABOUT IT.
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Feb 27, 2010 12:50 PM PST reply actions
Sure
What choice would he have? Also, let’s just say he’s not the happiest man in Arizona.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
And I don’t see him being happier in Oakland. We all remember how that route went with Moss.
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Feb 27, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe
Sometimes, a change of scenery is good. Recently in the NBA, Tracy McGrady was traded from the Rockets to the Knicks. Houston is the better team, but McGrady is happy in New York and he is revitalized.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
True
I still don’t think that he would have been as happy in Houston, though. This is the best he’s played in about three years.
The correlation between Boldin and McGrady isn’t exactly the same, but there’s a bit of a connection in terms of a player not happy on a good team whereas he could be happier on a team that isn’t as good.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that's because he gets to play in the bright lights of NY
by golden_solitude on Feb 28, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
New York
The lights haven’t been so bright there in a while in the sport of basketball.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 28, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
He wants $$$ mostly
I think his only motive is the big payday right now. I maybe wrong but the feeling I get after his drama and puting in Arizona with the potential there is a big payday only. The other thing as someone mentioned earlier is how would you feel going from driving a Porche to a frigging 78 Datsun? Because that is the QB senario at this moment in Oakland UNLESS Grad gets a legitimate shot at starting and they mesh well. But to be honest I like Grad a lot but he is not Kurt Warner and the offense was a lighting storm of energy in Arizona.
One more thing I dont think Javon is going to be around in 2010 so it should be a non issue. Well I atleast hope so anyhow.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 1, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
I hope not...
Lets shed some dead weight and stick to the draft here. If we bring in any high priced talent it should be line men (on either side).
Arizona doesn’t like to pay people, so they will not take Nnamdi, or Seymore, or anything like that in trade. They will want picks, and we need every pick we can get right now!
Boldin is a great player, but not in our need category right now. At least in my opinion.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I say no
We dont need a another big name reciever to come in and be unhappy. Were a run first team and Boldin would suffer in our system. And, Joe Flacco is not a stud. Im rather sick of this guy getting soo much hype when its only the Defense and Runnning game carrying him everywhere
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Flacco
The guy is surely a stud. He ranked seventh in passing yards in the AFC in just his second year in the league. He was also sixth in completion percentage and tied for sixth in touchdown passes. He has a great defense, yes, and a great running game; however, you still have to give credit where credit is due. The guy is a stud and he’s only going to get better.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 27, 2010 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps a little hyped, but this kids for real, Remix.
Protects the ball, stands tall in the pocket, and makes very few mistakes that cost games. He has the arm to make almost all the throws, and can throw some very few guys can, squeezing them into small pockets and through trouble.
I’ll agree with you about their stellar defense and run game, but Flacco’s hard to knock.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
R u willing to trade a 2nd rounder for him?
I’m not to sure Boldin will fit here in our scheme. Arizona is a passing team, he was second to LARRY Fitz, and he had a pretty good QB in Warner. We are primarily a running team, we have Chaz(who is great, but I don’t know if he is better than Boldin, and he’s sure not better than Fitz). I can see him being a distraction.
Boldin
is not coming to oakland. there are a million reasons why. but first and foremost Al Davis trading for Boldin would be admitting that dhb was a train wreck of a decision last year. Al Davis has never been wrong, not even once. Just ask him….
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Feb 27, 2010 6:42 PM PST reply actions
shut up
What would bringing in Boldin, a veteran WR who could actually mentor DHB, admit that DHB is a train wreck? That’s not a reason not bring Boldin in.
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if i have to explain it you just dont get it
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Feb 27, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
veteran leadership is VERY key in a productive team.
but I don’t think he’ll be good for us, plus he comes from a different scheme.
dhb
How do you “mentor” a wide receive whos main flaw is an in-ability to catch the football? Hands are god given, not “mentored”.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Feb 27, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
wrong.
this is not a receiver, but brandon meriweather was know to have butterfingers. now they are like glue. It’s obvious that you can get better at catching by practicing, it’s not like you are a lost cause if you can’t at the moment. Boldin will only increase his chances.
What's that sticking stuff that the kid used in the movie "Little Giants" to catch the football?
Maybe that’ll help him….just a thought. lol
"No player is greater than a team."
-Vince Lombardi
Neither Boldin or DHB
are good fits for this team. We’re stuck with one, lets not reach out and pay out the ass for the other.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
unless he's worth it.
Like Karlos Dansby.
were already payin outta the ass for dhb
cant afford boldin…
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Feb 27, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Here is a question...
Can Boldin be a #1 wide receiver? Don’t forget, for every Reggie Wayne and Terrell Owens who were the #2 wide receiver at one time and became #1, there is also a John Taylor.
No reason to trade for Boldin
Especially if it involves Nnamdi. Trading the best corner in the NFL for an injury prone, malcontent receiver is plain stupid. And I think some of us are putting way too many eggs in Gradkowski’s basket. This is the same guy who couldn’t hold down a starting job in Tampa Bay or Cleveland. Taking nothing away from his game against Pittsburgh, but his game against Cincy is only considered a success because they won. Look at his numbers from that game, he was pretty mediocre. He was actually better in the Dallas game, in which we got curb stomped. He’s extremely limited. He’s a journeyman for a reason. He’s OK as a game manager, but you’re not going to the playoffs with him at the helm. Why invest in a top flight receiver when you have so many other holes that need to be fixed? It doesn’t make any sense to me.
Why?
Why invest in a top flight receiver when you have so many other holes that need to be fixed?
The reason is in your comment and we can still fill other holes.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 28, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions
Gradkowksi's numbers
aren’t what I look at as much as I look at the fact he’s proven he’s a clutch QB and a closer and can come back from behind. I see no reason to keep him around and let him compete for starter.
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First does anyone remember Boldin breaking every NFL rookie receiving record he can
flat out play, he does not have blazing speed, what he has is football knowledge. He knows how to get open, let’s trade J-Russ for Boldin..straight up…lol Chaz is not great, the Raiders DON’T have a great receiver on their roster..Chaz is their best receiver but he has not shown he is great…Boldin if the terms were right would help, but we need a left tackle!!!
We have the 8th pick, and lose next years first round pick, a crazy trade in my opinion. I have been watching the combine all weekend and this years class of draft picks is extremely talented and deep..We should be able to get a great left tackle at number 8 that could come in and play right away. We need to sign Boldin if he becomes a free agent… Peppers, well the Raiders can’t afford Peppers. I agree that Morrison needs to come back and we should look at LB help also. Lots of talent at left tackle, big fast and long arms..which is mandatory to be successful at that position..Robert Gallery is an example of that his short arms has him playing Guard.
These are my top 5 left tackles. All are ready to come in and Start..Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung, Oklahoma’s Trent Williams, Rutgers’ Anthony Davis, Iowa’s Bryan Bulaga, and Maryland’s Bruce Campbell…Now my favorites are Okung, Oklahoma St. and Anthony Davis, Rutgers, both are beasts, and so are the others, however, all did well at the combine, very well…If we draft at 8 we need to take one of these guys if they are available…They will protect the blindside for the next 10 years…
.And I will say this again, we should have grabbed Mike Vick when we had the chance too, Philly won’t give him up now he is better than Grad and Frye combined. We need to draft a QB in the late rounds, so now is time to do some scouting…J-Russ has this year to get it right or he will be GONE, mark my words!!! No cap year so we can acquire players if we can afford them…Now we need to make some good personnel decisions….
by Rodney Sacramento on Feb 28, 2010 1:22 PM PST reply actions
I would not say it's the last thing we need
but it’s not a priority with our interior issues. Certainly not worth what Boldin wants to be paid if he’s still looking for Fitz money. If Al does do something like this I would say give up the 1st. We don’t have the cash to sink into another top 10 pick and Al has a good chance of blowing the pick.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
This draft is deep at Left Tackle, this is one of the few years there are 5 true first round
quality Left Tackles in the draft and if any has any sense left we will take one…My top 5 left tackles. All are ready to come in and Start..Oklahoma State’s Russell Okung, Oklahoma’s Trent Williams, Rutgers’ Anthony Davis, Iowa’s Bryan Bulaga, and Maryland’s Bruce Campbell…Now my favorites are Okung, Oklahoma St. and Anthony Davis, Rutgers..Yet any of these guys are ready to start…Next is with the 3rd round pick we should draft QB Tim Tebow if he is still on the board..This kid is a winner and a hard worker something our 1st round pick J-Russ isn’t..There are several other QB’s that will go before this kid, but I think Tebow should be our guy in the 3rd round if he is there, he has Raider toughness for those of you old enough to know what that is…We have 6 picks in the draft, and watching the combine I see a lot of talent on the first tier, I am sure if we scouted well, there is much more talent out there that was not invited to the combine…
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 1, 2010 5:13 AM PST reply actions
Davis,Bulaga, Campbell none worthy of a 1st round selection - especially when McClain and Price are available
There’s no chance of Al going for Tiebow. If we go QB it’s not happening in the 1st Round, that means LeFevour or Pike are possibles. I’d take LeFevour over any QB in this Draft except Bradford.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Pike Sucks!
Id be a fan of LeFevour or Tebow. But only if there in the 4th
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- Vince Lombardi
boldin
hell yes we have needed this since losing timmy brown and jerry rice we need a lagitament reciever not only to catch the ball but a vet who can work with the younger guys. al davis talks about just win well this is a key spot. and we all know he loves streching the field this is our shot go get him
No
He was a headache on the Cardinals. Imagine in this environment where the owner undermines any discipline the coaches try to instill. We have Chazz & Murphy as solid starters & DHB rotating with JLH as a slot receiver. If DHB could hang onto the ball & run more crossing routes than fly patterns we already have enough talent in the receiving corp with those guys along with Dmac & Miller. That’s a huge if about DHB though.
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