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Defense Wins Games


     There is alot of talk about Oakland taking a OT in this years draft. Bruce Cambell is one of those names thrown around quite often, as well with Anthony Davis and Brian Bulaga. Now, Oakland  has a fair shot at just about any of these players. But, is taking an OT more important than our Defensive weaknesses? In my opinion, No. It may be because Im a linebacker myself and Ive been taught Defense wins games and no matter what the offense has, if you can stop it, You can win.

     Now, with that said. This years draft is rather infested with defensive stars. Suh, McCoy, McClain, Haden and Berry are just naming a few, And all those guys will most likely be taken in the Top 10. It's highly doubtful that Oakland will have a chance at either Suh or McCoy. So solving or DL problem will have to wait. But, Rolando McClain has a chance of falling to #8. With Kirk Morrison being a FA and his weak play at MLB. Picking Rolando would be a huge improvement at the Captain position.

     With Rolando taken in Rd.1. That leaves three more positions needed OLB, DT, CB. This years draft is deep with DT talent and that can wait till the 3rd. Seeing we also have two picks in that round. I think Kyle Wilson would be a good choice here. Hes a good corner who had a terrific Senior Bowl. He would be a nice fit next to our boy Nnamdi. It is doubtful that he might not be there in the 2nd Rd. So another choice is Lamarr Houston, a DT whos pass rush and explosion could give a nice boost next to Tommy Kelly and Dick Seymour.

     Here we are in the 3rd. Round. We have a scary ass MLB in Rolando McClain and a future star in Kyle Wilson. That leaves us with a scary gap at the DT position. Luckily, There is a guy named Arthur Jones who talent level is crazy, but was riddled with injuries in 09' leaving alot of teams wondering. Hes a DT who has the same frame as Suh or even our own Dick (Richard Seymour) That being said, He could easily play DE and DT. Giving us alot of flexibility.

     We happen to have 2 two picks in the 3rd. Round and this is where we should grab an Offensive Lineman. Mike Johnson, A OG who can play OT as well. He is also from Alambam which could give Rolando a friend on the team and make it easier in Training Camp. Mike is real slow but has terrific technique and size. At 6'5 315 lbs. He would be a nice pick up in the 3rd.

     AI've always been firm believer of this method. Stocking up on Defensive players and letting them win the games. The Ravens and Jets have shown that you dont need a star at QB to make it to the playoffs. I know the Jets have a GREAT O-Line, but they also went to the AFC Chamionship game with a Rookie QB who played rather mediocre. I sure hope Al stays away from the speedsters and athletes this year. Id hate to see Rd.1-Bruce Cambell and Rd.2 Taylor Mays. I didnt recognize the OLB posistion mostly because Trevor Scott is a maniac and Slade Norris is making improvements so I've heard. So let this be the year of ugly football! Pounding the rock with a Powerful back and stopping everything the offense throws at you!

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Arthur Jones

had a torn lateral meniscus in November – ouch.

by Spirals galore on Mar 1, 2010 5:57 AM PST reply actions  

links

Arthur Jones cheerful as he opts for surgery:
http://blog.syracuse.com/orangefootball/2009/11/notebook_arthur_jones_prepares.html

More on his injury and recovery times:
http://nfldraftrankings.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/two-more-2010-draft-prospects-out-for-the-season/

The recovery time for a torn meniscus is:
Remove the meniscus: 4-6 weeks
Repair the meniscus: 4-6 months
Reconstruct the ACL: 6-9 months

by Spirals galore on Mar 1, 2010 6:11 AM PST up reply actions  

A great D can take a team to the superbowl even with a mediocre offense - Miami

But a great offense with a mediocre D can do the same – New Orleans’ D was ranked 25th last year.
In our case, if we concentrated on the weak middle and were able to get MLB McClain and DT Houston, or even better – Brian Price – we would immediately win more games than last year – but would that be enough to take us into the playoffs? Applying your philosophy, concentration on Defense (Jets, Packers, Ravens) would take 2 years to perfect at best because we still would not have the pass rushers (unless we blitz). On the other hand, if we concentrated on the weaknesses of the Oline, that would take even longer to correct – and given our Oline coaching and ZBS scheme – I’m not confident it could be done in 2 years of concentrated effort; and with that approach teams would be converting 3rd downs by exploiting our weak middle and keeping the O off the field.
That’s why I prefer a balanced approach to improving our team. Starting with the weak defensive middle by adding an intelligent, hard hitting MLB to lead it. Then adding a LOT to address that glaring weakness. Then going back for a DT upgrade. This balanced approach is more likely to occur this year because Marshall is going to press for help in the middle, Hue Jackson and Cable are going to press for help on the Oline and Waffle, I suspect, is going to lobby for a DT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 6:38 AM PST reply actions  

correction: ROT

I don’t consider Chris Johnson to be that great of a liability – we just need a better pass rush

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Cant totally agree

I would say their offense was good….not great or superb but not mediocre I just think their D that year was so dominating it completely outshined anything about their offense except the circus of the “fridge”

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, 46 - 10 at the SB does suggest some offense but they were ranked 20th in passing

McMahon ..still they won 16-10 right before that against a good Green Bay defense. I’ll try and find a better example of a great D and piss poor O … that won SB.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 2, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

they didn't win the super bowl but....

back in 06, the bear’s defense took them to the playoffs.

by patriotguy on Mar 2, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

No problem

Wasnt really trying to knock UR legs out with it I just thought the Bears offense wasnt mediocre just good but definitely not great. McMahon is not Young, Favre or Montana for sure but he got the job done.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Brian Price

Would be a nice pick as well. I like the Arthur Jones guy alot. But hes a 3-4th rounder. I think an immediate change in the Defence can bring us to the playoffs, If our O can bring it and the D steps up with intensity. Brandon Spikes would be another option in the 2nd ifMcClain isnt there. I love this draft because its filled with talent!!

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

But

The OT class doesnt go much deeper than the 1st. Theres alot of talent in the Top 10. But not much after that. While theres alot of talent of DT’s and LB’s all through out the draft. Like you said, A defensive change could take 2 years to perfect and I think that 2nd year could just be perfection of the scheme. If you add the players now and let them learn the scheme. You can work on the O Line next year while our D is already scary good

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

we still would not have the pass rushers

We were a top-sack team without blitzing last year. Scott, Ellis, Shaughnessy, Warren, Bryant, Kelly, even Seymour, all have decent to great pass rush. Scott and Shaughnessy are still young too, which means they’re still developing and getting better.

Now if we get that NT to go with Kelly/Warren/Bryant in the middle to eat up blockers, imagine how much better the pass rush would still be. Add in the fact that Marshall does blitz more than most think, and this is a top-10 pass rush.

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by KA1Z3R on Mar 1, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

Scott has a pure pass rush and I think Bryant and Seymour are gonna have much better years than before

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

CB Covergage and Pass Rush

I think they each are equally important. Im a fan of Defense and a CB could really give us a scary Defensive Backfield. And this years draft is filled with DT talent. Mike Mayock has 14 DT’s going in the first 3 Rounds

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

But! most of those DT’s are not NT and are instead pass rushers. Though there’s some good looking NT prospects out there.

I agree we really need a young corner who can become very good in a year or two (I’m fine if he learns under Nnamdi and plays nickel for a year or two. But if we get another corner and either Huff or Mitchell elevates to being a good safety, this will be a great backfield to go with a great pass rush.

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by KA1Z3R on Mar 1, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think

If we just adjusted our defense to a more blitz package and more 3-4 set up rather than the same 1970 type defense we have run for the last 40yrs it would take so much pressure off our CBs and secondary esp when you think about the potential we have at safety and in the nickle.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes. and part of this problem is that we don't have an D line interior that controls the O lines

setting up DE’s on the outside coming in to crush the qb, who can’t step up, because the NT is dominating the line of scrimmage. Our d backs would look like different guys if only we created a more consistent pass rush. The DEs did great, but when the defensive interior gives up huge gashes running, and can’t control the line on pass rush, they give the qb somewhere to escape DE pressure, just enough to get it off to an open guy.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 2, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

We did not run the 4-3 for 40 years - only since 1990 when Art Shell installed it

Oakland used the 3-4 from 1976 through 1989 – Madden began using it and Flores used it every season he coached us. We used the 3-4 D to win all three of our SB Championships.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 2, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Clarification

What I meant was the lack of blitzing and continuously relying on man to man and hanging our CBs out to dry because they get burned occassionally. I just think the other CB playing with Nnamdi would look way better with a more complex blitz package.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the idea of an aggressive

zone blitz scheme for this season. The current defensive scheme is as predictable as a high school one, there needs to be some jazz. We need a fast, hard-tackling safety or cornerback to compliment this—kinda like Polamalu does in Pittsburgh.

 However, good with the bad, an aggressive blitz scheme is even more vulnerable to a running attack…

by spec on Mar 5, 2010 6:19 AM PST up reply actions  

We have the personnel - Ellis had 7 sacks and most of those times we sent Scott, Branch and Michell

they either sacked, hurried or harried the QB significantly. It’s the coaching and strategy now that needs upgrades as much as the ROL and IDL.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 5, 2010 6:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes the Saints offense with a mediocre defense won a SB

but comparing where we are offensively the defense needs fewer pieces than the offense to be competitive. Imagine the Thanksgiving Day game if we had a few more playmakers & stoppers. The score could have been closer to 13-10 Oakland IMO.

by TAW on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

If McClain sint there

Id go with a OT. But then in the 2nd theres alot of talent at DT. Houston and Thomas are just a few. But Thomas is a worry because he kinda came onto the scene in the Senior Bowl. He wasnt really impressing alot of people before that

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Tell me about it, I've been looking at Tarheel highlights and he's rarely in any play

Houston (#33) for Texas is much better – good hustle and fast. Still would take Price over him for penetration and QB pressure.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Its doubtful

That Price is going to be there in the 2nd though. So would you rather have Price or McClain?

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

McClain - He more than anyone could lead by example and with intelligence and bring the whole D together as a unit

I want them both. If we went to a 3-4 we could get McClain and Weatherspoon and keep Gerard for NT with Seymour and Ellis on the ends, Howard and McClain at ILBs and Morrison and Weatherspoon at OLB. That would be fine with me too.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

McClain

Kinda rubbed me the wrong way by not taking part in ANY drills at the combine, another sad thing is that Spikes and Angerer had a good day today at the combine

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, a man should know his limitations and running in a straight line isn't what he does best

I’m taking the combine with a grain of salt anyway – may evaluations are 80% what I see on film/television 15% what I read and 5% hard metrics (combine meat-market methods).

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Its not so much

The drills or that numbers at the combine. Its having the hunger to compete with everyone else. Suh couldve sat out knowing he was probably going #1 or #2. But he still came out and showed he is better than McCoy. I just wish Rolando came out just to be better than everyone else

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you watch the Combine?

Its not just running 40’s and Bench. These guys do hip movement drills, explosion drills, pass rushing drills and all kind of stuff. I was interested in his 40 Time and more importantly his Bench reps. If he wouldve put up 30+ Reps and ran a 4.6 I would be sold. But Im not quite convinced hes the guy

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I watched it. But, Remix, seriously - I know guys that lived at the gym and could

match my 265 single with 10 of their own – it does not translate to playing good football. Same with the picnic events with cones. It’s very overrated and I wish Al and you understood that real game appraisal is really the only thing that counts.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I do understand

Im not one who praises athletes but some of this does account into the game. More than most at LB actually. If he came out and did what Sean Weatherspoon did, I would be completely sold on him. Im one who looks at the motor of players and the intensity on the field before I judge them. And Weatherspoon, Spikes and Angerer all came out today and equaled themselves to Rolando in my opinion. I want someone willing to work to be the best, not just take the free ride knowing hes number 1. And nice put up with 265 :) I can only put up 225 right now. Its annoying haha

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm already sold on McClain (even though he's DS (Alabama exclusion in effect))

that lift was awhile ago – It would take 3-4 months to get back there again

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you think

Of Myron Rolle? Safety out of Florida State. Does he account into your DS theory

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Too funny

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I like what Mayock said about player's participation, and what this does for us in evaluation

He basically said these mean nothing without a decent knowledge of how they look on film, during games. If you have questions about his speed playing, if this is corroborated by slow times at the combine, then you have to go back and evaluate that film accordingly. The same goes for vice-versa, when he may run faster than he appeared on tape. also prompting us to go back, and “reevaluate” if you will. It is key, that we are not enamored by a strong showing, as it appears many have been by Bruce Campbell.

The fact remains, many questions revolved around Bruce. The lack of a deep body of work of film to judge (only 17 games played in his college tenure), the medical questions. No matter how solid his combine numbers, he will more than likely not move up at all from them. Trent Williams was solid at the combine, and some even said they felt he performed better than Campbell, and he on the other hand, is projected first round. I still want Okung or Davis, and believe Davis will be there for us.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 2, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Since your model doesn't address the O or D lines till the 3rd round

I don’t see how this helps our most glaring issues. Without more strength upfront with guys who can step in immediately, these guys playing behind them may continue to struggle. I agree that if McClain is there, he should be the pick, but I think an early and often picks of Offensive and Defensive tackles will help this team quite a bit.

No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.

by S Jay Bruin on Mar 1, 2010 7:56 AM PST reply actions  

Either McClain or Cambell

I’d hare seeing Kirk leave, but since it is a possibility, taking McClain would be great. But I still think Cambell could be the answer also. Remember, we need offensive linemen, and this guy is fast, and Al loves that. Bruce could be the obvious choice.

by RaiderFan_21 on Mar 1, 2010 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

Kirk if fine he's just out of position

He’d make a damn good OLB and should resign him. Great locker room guy as well. Mcclain would be the best pick but I still think we should trade up

Stan Van Gundy looks like a maintenance man who walked into the locker room to fix something, and just decided to start yelling stuff and somehow became the coach

by dubzfan on Mar 1, 2010 8:53 AM PST reply actions  

I read that McClain may have issues

in a 4-3, and I just can’t help keep being haunted by the scout report warning on Heyward-Bey that we didn’t heed: Questionable Hands.

Though I believe the philosophy of yours for this year, and our team is sound, I’d go for Price in the 1st, and Spikes in the 2nd.

Price is only a little shorter than Suh, weighs the same, and has more tackles for loss than him and seven sacks. Our DT look up front needs a guy like that, especially if we got Seymour, Ellis and Scott as a distraction. Because clearly, Warren and Kelly aren’t applying the kind of consistent pressure we need .

The frequency with which our team uses the linebackers to blitz would have me pick the DT in the first round that can get off the block and create the most havoc -which would be Price.

A big linebacker in the 2nd to seal the middle with punishing hits would be natural, and would push whatever schemes they have to our ends who would be waiting to devour them.

With Kirk’s experience, he’d be good on the wing, and I’d stick with Howard for another couple years.

We need to take the war to them, and Price is the guy to do it.

by xville on Mar 1, 2010 9:30 AM PST reply actions  

McClain can play 4-3 or 3-4. Not sure where you heard he'd have problems, but he addressed the question himself, saying he could do either

But thinks he can play 3-4 better. That said, he may be gone at 8, at which point we need to have a contingency plan. I’ll be pleased if we address the three positions. OT, DT, and MLB, not necessarily in that order, but that we take the best player available at the respective position of the three, and take whatever’s left with our next two.

And defense does win championships, but it hasn’t really held true lately. NO was good at taking the ball away; you take away that significant stat, and that team got gashed huge between the 20s, and lived off creating turnovers, often for defensive scores. The important fact here is, the great Raider teams all had a strong defensive identity, and would keep games close, taking over in the final quarter.

I like the guys you mentioned. I hope McClain is there in the first round, and we’ll see who’s available in the next two at OT and DT.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

NO has a great coaching staff,

and made that defense come alive like Predator.

Manning didn’t know what the hell was going on with all the front shifting and zone/man blending that was going on.

I kept expecting to hear that clicking sound the Predator made when the line suddenly shifted.

by xville on Mar 1, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

ha ha!

nice visual; nice metaphorical picture of what the Saints can do in concentrating on the football on D, too. It’s defnitely all about the great coaching. From Payton down. I can’t believe they didn’t know every Saint was waiting for Peyton to go to Wayne on their favorite play, when Porter took it to the house. I’ll agree, Wayne didn’t run his normal impeccable route, but even if he had, it would’ve been he and Porter fighting for the ball, and I’d have to give the edge to Porter, because he just read the play from the time the Colts lined up; that’s called preparation meeting opportunity right there.

A couple of guys, and we’ll have personnel to take on that Predator personality. The question remains: will we have the coaches?

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It sounds like our defensive coaches may be impeded

by interference from Al.

And if that’s the case, it renders our defense hobbled and less adaptive to real-time changes and circumstances.

by xville on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 AM PST up reply actions  

we know this is true to some degree

to putting that in our past! May we hire the ultimate coach on defense to command the performance we expect from a Raider team and be second guessed by no one!

It could still happen.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 3, 2010 2:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Brian Price too

and having watched him play in college, he’s a good guy to have on the D-line with an outstanding motor. He seems to have everything you are looking for in a 3-gap DT, as he is good against the run and pass. The best benefit IMO is that he would replace either Kelly or Warren as the primary 3-technique guy on the line. We would still need a NT in the rotation though.

I’m trying not to get my hopes up too much though, because I’d be overjoyed with the Raiders picking Price. I have yet to hear that the Raiders are showing any interest in him or he will go in the top 10 of the draft (as it seems he is projected in the mid to late 1st round).

No more raining on Bruins Nation's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home.

by S Jay Bruin on Mar 1, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Being one who remains underwhelmed by this years OTs, I would go with Price if McClain, Suh and McCoy are gone

Then get the best OT then come back for another OT or the best available LB. The weak middle will continue to keep our O on the bench as much as a leaky O-line puts it there. BUT, a weak middle is worse than a weak OL b/c points are scored against us.
Bottom line: LB or DT in the 1st round

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Sean Weatherspoon

Is another idea in the 2nd. Only if he falls there though.

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

He's Projected

To go in the late 1st to early 2nd. Depending on what we do in the 1st. Id would love this guy in silver and black

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He could be right there at our second pick, and I like him better than Spikes for our team

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree.

Draft a OT in the first, MLB in the second, and DT or CB in the 3rd

by raiderfan21 on Mar 1, 2010 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

The quality OTs drops off after the 2nd round but the same thing happens on the other side with the LBs and DTs

So it comes down to:
1 )appraising the greatest need – which is almost a toss up, and
2) your theory of what will benefit the whole team more – a stud OT, MLB, or DT.
I’m with Remix on this one and believe we benefit more with a great MLB or DT because our middle has been exploited all season and allowing points – so fixing that problem would get the O on the field more.
But, getting an OT, while it would help us generate more points would not address the points being scored against our weak middle. (Unless our time of possession increase bigtime … and I don’t see the addition of even Okung doing that).

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree bigger need is defense, period. But believe no mlb, or dt besides McClain, Suh, or McCoy will be around worth the number 8.

If Okung is gone (likely) will Davis be the best pick for us? It might even be reaching, but Spikes is not worth the first round pick, nor are the next best DT’s in Price or Kindle, so the logical pick seems to be Davis, no? Or even Haden, if Cleveland doesn’t take him?

I say Davis is the more pressing need at that point, and like that pick the most, but if Haden has a strong showing tomorrow in his forty, we can expect Davis possibly even trading up with Cleveland to take Haden (I hope not, but wouldn’t be terribly pissed, unless we missed on taking a tackle with the later picks, which I’ll have to wait and see a whole day later!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 1, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

If Cable isn't acting as a byzantine agent for Al by obfuscating and misdirecting

then we’re going for OTs, DT, DE, C, CB. If his is serving as a decoy and acting interested in groups/players that Al doesn’t care about then we might end up with QBs, WRs, RBs, LBs. Cable’s job has been hanging by a thread for months and the fact that he’s at the combine (after making poor line acquisition choices in the past) suggests that Al may be using him to decoy away from players Al covets. Cable has shown an aptitude for spinning things in interviews and press conferences that a dumb pumpkin couldn’t do – so he does have a certain kind of intelligence.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 2, 2010 6:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Lets hope

That we dont make another one of those “gold nugget diamonds in the rough” picks where we take someone way out of left field to get laughed at once again on draft day.
I am making it my early 40th BDay wish for a solid rational pick this year.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll share my early 39th with you, my man! I'll settle for a not so solid rational pick this year, and figure this one works out in our favor!

Done trying to think what I know would actually be better than what the professional organization I’m blindfly faithful towards pick can win. I do believe even those folks some organizations will be heavily criticized for taking this year, will come to reap the benefits of many great, difference making players, also, many whom were deemed to have “zero chance” at the NFL level. Sometimes, even the so-called experts don’t even know what will happen. We have a pretty good idea with our Raiders, but even we dont’ know it all. You never can.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 3, 2010 1:30 AM PST up reply actions  

2nd paragraph: Anthony Davis first; Al Davis second!

These Davisssss’ can get confusing!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 1, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce

Everyone will be back evryone will be improved the Offense will be better especially if bruce wins the starting job. With an OT we can keep the Offense on the feild so our D isn’t on the feild the whole so even if we have the number 1 run D in the league if we go three nd out every drive we will never win. Also trading has got to be an option getting an extra pick in the 2nd could do help alot. Or even two in the first.

by raiderfan21 on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

It is definite we need O-line help

Especially with how last year finished with all the injuries to our line. Then Gradkowski & Frye both get hurt as well. The team needs to focus on the trenches this season on both sides of the ball. However if they draft McClain I will be pleasantly surprised. That would make this year’s draft & off-season a success even with the Sebas contract & the fact Jafatfuck is still getting paid to ride the pine & get booed.

by TAW on Mar 1, 2010 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

I dont think

The Sebastian signing was too bad. If the O gets him more chances instead of letting him try 60+ kicks then he would earn the money. JaFatfuck! lol

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

TRADE!

Trade our first for a later 1st and 2nd get bruce 1st, spikes 2nd, and a stud DT with the 2nd we get from the trade. We already have two thirds we get a corner with one and maybe a C or a QB with the other? Sound good?

by raiderfan21 on Mar 1, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

Sebastian was a ba signing you don’t pay that much for a kicker. I think we need more help on oline than dline. Being that we don’t have a qb we need to be able to run the ball first and roll out into play action. te line we have now only 2 players are worth keeping. lt,lg. the center was a question mark sometime then he looked good at time. we don’t need a center as bad as a rt. green was best at doing all the wrong times at the right time. maybe we move our lt to rt and pick up one of these young lt pair him p with gallery to help him out get a rg free agent. there are a lot of defensive players in this years draft so we could get a dt, or lineback in the 2nd or 3rd round. but who knows what al is going to do, but he always seems to get it right in the later rounds

by Micheal Y on Mar 1, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

No QB?

BRUCE GRADKOWSKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M.Y.,
 Im gonna continue to respond like this to every comment you make saying that we do not have a QB. Just thought you should know.

If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi

by Remix. on Mar 1, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce could be ok for a year or two

We need to get a QB in the later rounds in this draft or early rounds of next draft like 2nd round hes a great backup but he played below average at best but maybe if he has a line and some WRs who catch the ball and a defense that can get him back the ball maybe he could be the missing piece. I don’t like Russell never did.

by raiderfan21 on Mar 1, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

He could be

the next Gannon. If he really puts the time in he can be force to lead the team. Gannon was no superstar athlete but his performance on the field for us was do to his desire to win and work smart and become the beast in the film room and on the practice field.
Now as I said “he could be” I am not saying he is the saviour of our team but he could be a pleasant surprise and if at the end of this coming season we are still a question at QB then trade and/or draft a QB for the next season. If we bring back Frye, Grad and obviously JaBobbleBlob then hopefully we can have some stability and someone comes out to be an everyday QB that performs.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 2, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Walter McFadden as a CB FA Wildcard.

Fast, has got the picks and breakups in big games, and has got an everything to prove mentality.

by xville on Mar 2, 2010 4:03 AM PST reply actions  

Defense may win games...

But football as we knew it has changed, and now high powered offenses win championships. We all agree on needing some D line help, but I think we can address that in the 3rd round like you said. We scored 14 TD’s in 16 games, and had 4 different QB’s in due to injuries. The line was anemic in every way possible, and we have spent years throwing duct tape on it hoping it would work. I know we got a little burned by taking Gallery (great player, but a G doesn’t go #2 overall), but a tackle is our most glaring need.

If McClain is there in round one though, it would be hard for old Al to pass him up.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Mar 2, 2010 8:31 AM PST reply actions  

very well said, Kwester

The dynamic, primarily passing offenses of today like NO and Indy, that can score at any given moment from anywhere on the field, dictates this is the way to move.

It also make a strong argument for switching to 3-4 to create quicker pass rush from faster guys who can get upfield in a heartbeat (at least 50% of teams, also the largely successful defenses).

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Mar 2, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm with you

on the 3-4, but Al will never give up his prehistoric 4-3 man to man D. The way our D is run is so far behind the times. We can stop 80% of the plays, but those 20% are going to go for serious yardage.
If we can score some points, then we have a chance. We have a good trio of RB’s, now if can only block for them!

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Mar 2, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

We have good cover people now and only need to bring QB pressure and stop the run

then it’s “3 and out” for the opponents and we get the ball twice or three times as much. I realize we need OL help but we also need interior line and MLB help. I don’t see how we can fix everything in one year. But if we do it right, with a franchise MLB and a run stopping DT who can also penetrate then we can certainly go to 9-7 (especially if Jackson calls a good game) and make a playoff game this year. Then we’ll be set for the run at the big dance the following year when the final improvements are made to the OL. We’ve proven we can score against good teams and our WRs improved immensely – we have good RBs that weren’t used correctly. Everything should be better this season provided we can stop the run and pressure the QBs.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 2, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Good post Remix

I love watching a good defense. As far as how you build a winning team I think it’s been proven over the years that there are many ways to win in the NFL.

I feel like balance on offense with an eye towards ball control to go along with a defense that causes turnovers is the best way to win but frankly after the last 7 years I don’t care how the Raiders win as long as they start winning again.

by sirbed on Mar 2, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

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