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SABP 2010 NFL Mock Draft/Draft Discussion Open Thread

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If this year is anything like last year around here then there will likely be more than 50 posts with mock drafts before April 22nd.

Whether you want to post your Raiders mock draft or the overall NFL mock draft, post it here, discuss, modify and see how it turns out be the time April 22nd rolls around.

Using this thread and consolidating all the mocks here will greatly help keep the FanPost section from cluttering up with redundant posts. Please recommend in order to keep in a fixed section through the 22nd of April.

To help you get started, here is Scout's Inc current top 32 draft eligible players:

SCOUTS INC.'S TOP 32
    Player         Pos.      School   Grade
1. Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 98
2. Gerald McCoy* DT Oklahoma 97
3. Eric Berry* S Tennessee 97
4. Anthony Davis* OT Rutgers 96
5. Jason Pierre-Paul* DE S. Florida 96
6. Joe Haden* CB Florida 96
7. Russell Okung OT Okla. State 95
8. Derrick Morgan* DE Ga. Tech 95
9. Bryan Bulaga* OT Iowa 94
10. Dez Bryant* WR Okla. State 94
11. Sam Bradford* QB Oklahoma 94
12. Rolando McClain* ILB Alabama 94
13. C.J. Spiller RB Clemson 94
14. Trent Williams OT Oklahoma 93
15. Earl Thomas* S Texas 93
16. Carlos Dunlap* DE Florida 93
17. Mike Iupati G Idaho 93
18. Brandon Graham OLB Michigan 93
19. Brian Price* DT UCLA 93
20. Bruce Campbell* OT Maryland 92
21. Kareem Jackson* CB Alabama 92
22. Dan Williams DT Tennessee 92
23. Taylor Mays S USC 92
24. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas 92
25. Jermaine Gresham* TE Oklahoma 92
26. Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 91
27. Kyle Wilson CB Boise State 91
28. Jared Odrick* DT Penn State 91
29. Navorro Bowman* OLB Penn State 91
30. Jahvid Best* RB California 90
31. Anthony McCoy TE USC 90
32. Maurkice Pouncey C Florida 90
* denotes draft-eligible junior

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Too early for me to mock but Suh is definitely first for Rams. I also feel pretty confident that the Bills will screw up again and draft Sam Bradford before getting their horrid O-Line built up.

Also, this running back class to me is pretty awful compared to the past two or three years.

Spiller- Darren McFadden, I mean, Spiller is pure speed but nothing else. The elusiveness is there, but it’s not elite. He looks and feels like Reggie Bush to me. Overrated and ineffective on players that aren’t pitches or screens. Whoever drafts him better have a quality back to play with him. Definitely not for a team without a RB.

Best- I actually kinda like Best. Great speed, but he’s also a good every down back. Slower Chris Johnson to me. i think he could be a pretty good back in this league.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 9, 2010 7:07 AM PST reply actions  

What about Jonathan Dwyer?

I like his intangibles, good size and speed ratio

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by Remix. on Feb 9, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Dwyer

The dude played in the goofiest offense in college football. Georgia Tech was amazing at running the ball with or without him. I believe they led the entire NCAA in rushing. They were up there with Nevada.

While Dwyer projects to be one of the top three running backs in the class, I’d still be a little weary about taking him because of the system he played in at college. It was fun to watch, at least. I think Dwyer will be fine, but it wouldn’t shock me at the least bit if he couldn’t make it.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 10, 2010 6:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

he feels too much like a product of the scheme.

I did forget Ryan Matthews who I think will be the best of the whole class. He looks like a more polished Jonathan Stewart.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Stewart

I was secretly wishing we took him

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Another mock link on a recent fanshot has the Rams taking a qb

with Suh going to Detroit.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 1:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I can see that happening, but the Rams really like to draft for defense. They have a young core of O-Linemen in place, I think they’ll look to do the same for their D-Line then get a QB in the second since there should be some good options there.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Rams are a run-first run-second team. A star QB isn’t a major issue for them.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I hear they might get Tebow and mold him into NFL. All while taking Suh in the 1st

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by Remix. on Feb 11, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You're right. I don't see Spagz taking a qb, and think Bulger can still be good

Their problems are kinda like ours: too myriad for us to fairly bang blame on any individual, or even individual unit or coach. Very talented squad, though, and could be among the most improved teams next year.

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by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Bulger

He’s a lost cause in my opinion

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by Remix. on Feb 12, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Bulger is finished

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

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by Ozraider on Feb 12, 2010 7:04 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed but they’re clinging to him. I’d like to see what he could do if he had receiving options other than Donnie Avery who isn’t even that good.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 15, 2010 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Bulger

He’ll most likely end up with a season ending injury and leave the Rams relying on Stephen Jackson. Resulting in another 2-14 season

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by Remix. on Feb 15, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

as he does damn near every year

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 16, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Mock Draft Thread

To me, it’s too early to make a mock draft. That’s just me, though, as other people probably have made some or at least one.

I hope everyone recommends this. We don’t need a new thread every time someone has a draft idea as noted in the post.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 9, 2010 7:13 AM PST reply actions  

It's too early for me also

but, the FanPost section on the right pane is going to get very clogged if we don’t have a consolidation thread. Last year there were nearly 50 pre-April mock draft posts.

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by TheRaiderWay on Feb 9, 2010 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

This thread is a great idea. I hope we can keep things organized.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 9, 2010 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy tooo early

Let’s see how FA goes with the CBA agreement, then it’ll still be too early. But I love looking at the guys.

Our mocks will be way more accurate than the shit I’ve been reading. Seriously.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

SBN will have our usual Mock Draft:

For the first ti9me in years, it will actually be debatelable, whom we should choose:

JaMarcus, McFadden and Crabtree were no brainers…Nearly

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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 9, 2010 8:37 AM PST reply actions  

if you want to keep this where everyone can see it

Just change the date posted and it will go ahead of posts of previous days.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 9, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Pre-combine is tough

especially for the Raiders who put so much into those outcomes. Right now I can only say the positions I’d like to see picked by the team, but often the Free Agency period in March will change the needs, as it seemed to do last year when Kalif Barnes and Erik Pears were signed, suddenly and incorrectly a OT didn’t seem like an immediate need.

No more raining on BN's rainy parade, they took their ball and went home, lmao.

by S Jay Bruin on Feb 9, 2010 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Great Idea!

I cant really throw any names out right now becasue I usually watch the Combine then decide stuff like that, but I know the positional needs

OT
LB
DT
CB
DE
FB
 
The bottom 3 can be switched up in any order, but otherwise the Top 3 are big needs.

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by Remix. on Feb 9, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

+ 5/6

the – 1/6 is for another OT instead of the DE (Shaungh, Scott, Ellis, and Richardson have our ends)

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 9, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd agree with that as well

But, Ellis is rather old and has maybe 1 more year. You seem to hate Dick, so I figured I’d please you by picking up another DE.haha, Plus, This draft has some late round talent at DE

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 1:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think we all agree, dude's who can pancake fools, and block like brick walls

So we can see what our offense should have always looked like. Explosions everywhere.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Offensive Guard

A far as position needs go, throw in offensive guard while you’re at it. We have a lot of picks and I see just six positions listed, so why not? I’m sure no one can object to taking a guard at some point in the draft, particularly on the third day.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 10, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

The team needs to identify 2 starters at RG & RT

Cooper was ineffective last year, and would stand to reason that he will get substantially worse every year. I’ve never liked Cornell Green as a starter, he may be a decent run blocker, but he’s a penalty machine and less than average pass blocker.

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by S Jay Bruin on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Might as well switch

OT with OL in general

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The reality with the NFL and college lineman is

that most kids, Tackle or Guard in college don’t always a professional tackle make. Gallery is a classic example, and no one criticized us for taking him with that second overall at the time. Don’t even bullshit me, either. The fact is that some of these standouts in college may not even make it at the next level, and some guys even make the transition from G to T. Iupati is a long arm guy who keeps his weight beneath him and good leverage. Bulaga, Campbell. All guys who are interesting, but the best evaluators of talent remain cautiously optimistic; you’re playing with fire with lineman, and if a high pick is used, and he’s picked at tackle, you’ll be throwing almost as much money at him as your top paid guy, if he isn’t already. Especially if he’s a rare “blind side” guy like Mike Oher.

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by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

DE, really? Seymour, Ellis, Scott, richardson, Shaughnessy. All are good options especially with pass rush. Shaughnessy and Richardson are good against the run, Ellis and Scott have great pass rush, and Seymour is a good base end. DE is stacked right now for us.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Defensive End

You have to look at the ages of both Seymour and Ellis. Richardson hasn’t done anything to show that he necessarily is a better player than a potential draft pick. I agree with putting it up there. I don’t think it’s a pressing need, though, but rather something we should really look at in the late rounds.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 10, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Since we need guys to contribute right away

the DE spot may not be as useful in the first round or second round in the sense that a DT, LB, or OL would. Still someone to groom to take over for the vets one day would be good, and I agree with you on Richardson, not sure he is a lock for the team next year.

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by S Jay Bruin on Feb 10, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

someone to groom? Then what’s the point of Shaughnessy and Scott getting a lot of opportunities to contribute and learn behind vets like Ellis and Seymour?

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

For one, I'm not sure Scott is an everydown DE

in fact, I think he had his best games playing linebacker last year. Shaughnessy might be a guy who does develop into a good pro, I think you have a point there, but I think I would like one more guy in that rotation.

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by S Jay Bruin on Feb 11, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Scott isn’t every down, that’s why he plays pass rush in our rotation. But Ellis, Richardson, Shaughnessy, and Seymour are every down. Four every down DE’s is better than what most teams have.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 15, 2010 7:27 AM PST up reply actions  

OTs can play anywhere on the line but Guards and Centers usually can't

We load up on OTs because they are normally the best players and can transition as needed. We have Langston Walker and Robert Gallery as our starting guards and they are fine. Dump Green, Pears, Barnes, and Carlisle and we bring in 3OTs (2 by draft and 1 by FA).

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 10, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

MOCK DRAFT

Trade back and pick Iupati he moves well and could play RG or RT given time…in the

second draft Calooway to play RT or Beadles to PLay RG whatever Iupati doesnt

play…now we got a good OL we know how to use to Mcfadden to make mismatchs and

chaz schillens and MIller with Bush in the backfield could be a good team if we take

some defensive depth in later rounds that sounds good to me but it never happens that

way so we will have to wait and see

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by BRIANMULHALL on Feb 10, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

I'm praying you're wrong, rat! But know it's possible

It’s very possible….

Good that McClain is kinda that freak athlete, though.

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by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The more I think about the more I can see Mr Davis taking Joe Haden.

especially with Nanmdi fawning over playing with Revis at the Pro Bowl and it looks like McLain might be gone by our pick.

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

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Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
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by Ozraider on Feb 11, 2010 4:39 AM PST reply actions  

Haden it will be if he is there

We may all want McClain, but Al very rarely takes a linebacker in the 1st, but will systematically take a corner in the 1st round. It will have nothing to do with Nnamdi because that is a non-issue, but it will have a lot to do with C.Johnson and Routt. Haden can step in and play RCB from day one and likely be an upgrade even then over C.J. (he will already be better than Routt). However, there is a probable chance that Cleveland will take him before the Raiders get a chance.

If Haden is gone, McClain would be nice, but then probably an LT then.

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by TheRaiderWay on Feb 11, 2010 5:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Haden is definitely the Browns pick. Their run D is in place and they’re looking to see how their offense develops behind that amazing O-Line. That secondary is their top priority.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah i think it is a matter of either McLain or Haden being available when we pick

as the Browns look like taking one of them.

I would love McLain as I think he could lead the D for the next 10 years but i think Haden would be a good pick that also fills a need imo and playing with Nam would be huge for Haden also may give us the flexibility to Trade Nam if Al does not want to pay those huge final years on his contract for whatever reason.

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"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
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by Ozraider on Feb 11, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Browns also need an ILB

They could go with Mclain instead of Haden which would be good for us

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by S-n-B4life on Feb 14, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I like McClain

But the scouting report on him is he is a 3-4 ILB and would not translate as well to a 4-3 ILB so with that said I’d take Haden in the 1st go for C Brown at OT in the 2nd (played a zone blocking system in college). Take Cam Thomas at NT in the 3rd and grab AJ Edds in the 3rd at Strong LB keep Morrison in the middle.

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by S-n-B4life on Feb 14, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Rolando is a smart player and could adjust; to 4-3 and he's lean for his frame and could buff at least another 15 lbs

There are several OLBs in this draft but no other MLBs who can touch McClain’s field management, leadership, ball tracking and tackling. If he’s there for us on the 22nd we better grab him – unless I’m insane, he’ll be the heart of our D for years to come.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 14, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s the one case of “taking the fast guy” that I’d be fine with. Cleveland will most likely get him, but if he’s there and Davis nabs him, I can’t say I’d be angry. CJ goes to nickel and Routt becomes the 4th option. Haden’s speed and awareness makes him a good man coverage option to play beside Nnamdi. Not to mention great hands to get those picks when they’re there, and he can do something with it afterward.

Haden isn’t a bad pick when you have a WR playing CB on your team, aka something that should NEVER EVER HAPPEN IN TODAY’S NFL.

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by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Bruce Cambell. nuff said.

we can get spikes or a great DT in the 2nd round.

Look at what drafting a great OL did for miami in 08. Jake Long is beastly.

by patriotguy on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

Haha

Thats funny! But, If we dont get Rolando, and Spikes falls to us, would you want Oakland to draft him? I personally would say Hell Yes! I like his vicious attitude and Field General mentality

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by Remix. on Feb 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Pre Combine Mock

Rd.1- Anothony Davis OT

Rd.2- Brandon Spikes ILB

Rd.3 Mike Johnson OG/OT

Rd.3 Jon Asomoah OG

Rd.4 Dan LeFevour QB

Rd.5 Reshawn Jackson FB

Rd.6 Corey Peters DT

Rd.7 Ekom Udofia DT

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by Remix. on Feb 11, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

The Asomoah and Lefevour picks will piss some people off

I’m not sure I’m not one of them, yet… You’re saying this is how you think it will go or wishful thinking?

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by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Davis seems like a great OT that can anchor the LT or RT position, Does he not remind anyone of Orlando Pace?

I think he’s similar to him no? That’s the dude we should take in the first round. LB in 2 rd. only if no runstopping DT’s are there or NT’s.

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 11, 2010 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Gonna have to check him out. What about reminds you of Orlando?

I don’t get to see most of the college kids in action enough, so I hate to judge too much based on highlight reels and stats. I like quality game film, of which there just isn’t enough available to us, but it’s a trip how much more we can see with the internet video at our fingertips. Watching football ten years ago was a whole different experience! 20 years ago! gtf outta here!

I remember I did a lot of reading of offseason scouting reports, pro football weekly and their off season stuff, newspapers and whatever you could get your hands on.

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by brhynno on Feb 13, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess his big frame... Wasn't Pace like 6'7 325, Davis has similar stature along with other big frame tackles like Williams and some other dudes.

imo the thing that I still need to verify is how nimble he is on his feet in order to fully compare him with Pace.

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 14, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks pretty solid, and PK and some guys are calling him "impact," and "NFL ready"

but he’s currently projected a 23rd overall pick. I actually wouldn’t mind seeing us trade down, acquiring some later round picks, but only if we know we’re not getting McClain.

I’ll be watching him closely at the combine, and looking to see if he gets out of position in pass block/ rush drills, his shuttle time, and if he has the ability to recover if caught out of position. Looks to be a solid prospect, but not worth the top ten pick, for now…

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by brhynno on Feb 15, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess you can say

Wishful thinking, Im not completely sol that Rolando will be the star he’s made out to be and if he’ll even be there at #8. I like this one mostly because its stakced with O-Line

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by Remix. on Feb 12, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Not many are saying this about Rolando. I'll remember it if he doesn't pan out

I think he’s the next Ray Lewis type guy, but believe you’re right about his not being there at 8.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 13, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I say we must go defense

At times we showed life on offense, all it took was an average QB. Were fine on the left side of the O line, the Right side has major holes and center is okay for now. The Wide outs between Chaz and Murphy are good and we can sign a 3rd guy or hope DHB doesn’t suck next year. On defense we lack a run stopping DT seeing that Warren is not a starter and Kelly is a situational player (pass rush). I think Dez can eventually be a starter but he deserves to be in the rotation over Warren, on the ends were good with Ellis, Seymour, J Rich, Shaunessey, and Scott ( I think he should split time between OLB and DE). At LB it depends on if Kirk leaves, if he does than we have to get Mclain (or another MLB) or get a strong OLB if he does stay (Porter?). I’d love Pierce, then move Kirk outside or if he leaves put Scott there and draft a DT. Corner deph can be built in rounds 2-5. Maybe have Huff play a little corner and let Mitch get some more time?

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by dubzfan on Feb 13, 2010 1:46 AM PST reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more I go back to

Brian Price as our pick in the 1st.

You don’t rack up 23 1/2 TFL and 7 sacks for nothing. He is a true POA run stopper and QB threat.
 
And if you look at his TFL progression, you can see he learns.

As for a linebacker, I’d gamble on Micah Johnson as a value pick in the 4th, after we shore up our right side offensive line with our two 3rd picks: Calloway & Jerry. I’d pass on McClain, especially if he may not take to the 4-3.

by xville on Feb 13, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Trade

I’d love to trade our pick with the 49ers and grab their two picks in the first round. That way, we can get Price and someone else as well. I doubt it’s going to happen, of course.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 13, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see a young

Warren Sapp, learning from an experienced Richard Seymour.

by xville on Feb 13, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Or, I'd like to see us trade McFadden to the Jets for:

2010: 1st, 2nd, &5th
2011: 2nd & 4th
2012:1st
and some cash.

The Jets picks will all be at the bottom of their respective rounds, McFadden was a top 5 pick, is a proven run/pass threat, is young, and the Jets would be even more deadly with him as a weapon in their brand of offense -they seem like the team that would bite.
We need to rebuild, and our FA picks have been terrible, but so is our use of McFadden.
We may need to get a new QB in the next couple years, so padding the draft while we can would be smart with a trade of a great player who just doesn’t fit with our “system.”

by xville on Feb 14, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Any DB's

that run a 4.3 or under? That’s what old Al is looking for! Nevermind skill set, coverage, or intelligence, it’s all about speed… right?

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by Kwester421 on Feb 13, 2010 7:57 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe

Taylor Mays runs a 4.4 and is 230 pounds and that’s the closest thing I’ve seen not counting Eric Berry’s 4.36 time because he’s going inside the top three. Other than that, I haven’t seen a defensive back with a 4.3 time.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 13, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Jason Pierre-Paul

The defensive end from South Florida is shooting up draft boards like crazy. He’s inside the top five on the ESPN Scouts Inc. board which you can view at that link on the bottom right.

With just six sacks in his junior year, I thought Pierre-Paul was a guy going in the second round at best. I’m still not buying into the hype. Don’t buy into it, Al.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 14, 2010 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

Actually

I wouldnt mind picking him, Ive seen him play numerous times and he’s a beast. Even when he was a 215 Lb Freshman, I saw him tearing it up at DE. Hes crazy athletic too

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by Remix. on Feb 14, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Usain Bolt

The Jets blog had some fun with their mock draft.

8. Oakland Raiders: Usain Bolt, 100m/200m/4×100m, Jamaica

We all know Al Davis only cares about straight line speed so who better than the fastest man in the world? I know you’re probably either laughing or rolling your eyes, but admit it. You could see this happening.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 14, 2010 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Thats real funny

I laughed almost as hard as Im gonna be laughing when NY finds out Marc Sanchez is a horrible QB who followed his OL and Defense all the way to stardom

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by Remix. on Feb 14, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

this would be funny if I hadn’t heard every single year since the olympics before last

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 16, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

if mcclain is gone at 8, i say we draft the kid out of rutgers then in the second we look at kyle wilson a corner out of boise st. this kid is a beast. the 3rd round goes to asomoah and some DT that can plug two gaps. not exactly sure who that can be because from everything that i have read theres only about two or three players that are capable of doing this and all are expected to be gone by then.

by frank7da2tank on Feb 17, 2010 1:34 AM PST reply actions  

Trade

The St. Louis Rams have traded the first overall pick to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange for the third overall pick, a third-round pick and quarterback Josh Johnson.

The Bucs would then draft Ndamukong Suh with the No. 1 pick. According to Scout.com, the Rams compare Johnson to Michael Vick athletically, and they believe he has even more upside as a passer. While Johnson is an intriguing developmental QB, he’s not close to being ready to start at the NFL level. The proposed deal makes sense for the Bucs, but it wouldn’t solve the Rams’ quarterback dilemma for 2010.

While it may not solve the dilemma for the Rams next season as far as quarterback goes, I imagine Josh Johnson is their starter and they may not draft neither Suh nor Gerald McCoy. I wonder who they would draft, then, since they can’t go defensive tackle and won’t go quarterback.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 20, 2010 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

O-Line?

You dont need your QB getting smashed every down

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by Remix. on Feb 20, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Potential Picks

The Rams can have their choice from the best offensive lineman, best safety, best cornerback or even best linebacker. Right now, I think they’re going with Russell Okung with Eric Berry going fourth to the Chiefs. Sitting at number six, the Seahawks may be tempted to go with the quarterback of their choice with Matt Hasselbeck’s injuries and age.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 20, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

STL & SEA

The Rams have James Laurenaitius. So I dont think they’ll get a LB. Picking a OT would be the best choice and in Seattle, A new coach most likely means a new QB. Matt Hasselbeck is done in the NFL

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by Remix. on Feb 20, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Mock Draft

It’s still too early for me, but my very early shot at a mock draft goes like this:

  1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Ndamukong Suh, DT/Nebraska
  2. Detroit Lions — Gerald McCoy, DT/Oklahoma
  3. St. Louis Rams — Russell Okung, OT/Oklahoma State
  4. Washington Redskins — Sam Bradford, QB/Oklahoma
  5. Kansas City Chiefs — Eric Berry, S/Tennessee
  6. Seattle Seahawks — Joe Haden, CB/Florida
  7. Cleveland Browns — Rolando McClain, LB/Alabama
  8. Oakland Raiders — Bruce Campbell, OT/Maryland
  9. Buffalo Bills — Jimmy Clausen, QB/Notre Dame
  10. Jacksonville Jaguars — Jason Pierre-Paul, DE/South Florida

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 20, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind getting Manase Tonga the FB from BYU

as our 7th round pick.

He’s thick, has got good speed for a FB, and would be perfect to block for our RB’s.

He also seems to have some hands for the dump if needed.

by xville on Feb 22, 2010 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

The Combine

Its starting soon, Expect the mocks to start flying in

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by Remix. on Feb 22, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

St. Louis Rams

According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Rams are taking Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford with the top pick. The trade with the Buccaneers isn’t official.

Schefter admits that he has not spoken to the Rams about the issue, but he insists he doesn’t need to because he’s “heard enough other things” from people around the league that he considers it a lock. Schefter also “promises” that Bradford is a top-5 player in this draft.

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