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Free Agent Ties to New Oakland Raiders Coaches

 

In this article, I’m going to give you a list of free agents with recent ties to the new coaches who were just added to the Oakland Raiders coaching staff.

The coaches include, Hue Jackson; former Baltimore Ravens QB’s coach and now Oakland Raiders Offensive Coordinator, Clancy Pendergast; Former Defensive Coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs and the Arizona Cardinals and now DB coach for the Oakland Raiders, and Mike Waufle; former New York Giants defensive line coach who accepted the same position with the Oakland Raiders.

This is certainly not a list of probable free agents signings, but this is a list of players that Oakland could take a long hard look at during this free agency period based on their bodies of work and their experience working with Oakland’s new staff members. The list follows typical order from offense to defense and is in no way a reflection of order that the free agents may be looked at, nor is it based on team needs.

An "Unrestricted Free Agent" is a player who is free to sign with any team in the NFL. A "Restricted Free Agent" is a player who is free to talk and take offers from any team, but the offers may be matched by the player’s current team, or the current team may require a draft pick up to and including a first round pick for the player. "UFA-CBA" means that is no collective bargaining agreement is reached for the 2010 season, then the player will become an unrestricted free agent just before the start of the 2010 NFL season.

I must include a big thank you to Wikipedia, ESPN.com, and KCChiefs.com for providing much of the information obtained during the research of this article.

You can see more articles from me @ www.fanhuddle.com/oaklandraiders.

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Troy Smith (26), Baltimore Ravens QB - Restricted Free Agent:

Smith won the 2006 Heisman Memorial Trophy on December 9, 2006.He beat out sophomore RB/QB Darren McFadden (2nd) from Arkansas turned Oakland Raider and QB Brady Quinn (3rd), senior quarterback from Notre Dame turned Cleveland Brown.

Smith became the first true quarterback from the Big Ten to ever win the award. In winning the 2006 Heisman Trophy, Smith took 86.7% of the first place votes, which is a record.

Smith declared for the 2007 NFL Draft. Despite winning the Heisman Trophy, Smith saw his draft stock drop considerably after the 41-14 loss to Florida in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game. At exactly 6’0", his height was cited as a liability as was an NFL Combine performance that did not impress.

He was expected to start the 2008 season for the Ravens, but he became ill before the first game of the year, and the Ravens had some success with rookie QB Joe Flacco. Call it a missed opportunity for Smith, because the Ravens haven’t looked back to him since, and Flacco has led the Ravens to three playoff wins over the last two years.

Smith has talent, but given his size, Al Davis may not be too interested in the young QB who is certainly awaiting a shot to prove himself.

Le’Ron McClain (25), Baltimore Ravens FB - Restricted Free Agent:

McClain was considered as one of the best fullbacks available in the 2007 NFL Draft, and drew comparisons to William Henderson. He was drafted with the 137th pick during the 4th round by the Baltimore Ravens.

During the 2008 season, McClain became the team's primary running-back as he rushed for a team-high 902 (3.9 average) yards and 10 touchdowns on 232 carries. He also caught 19 passes for 123 yards and a touchdown. McClain's performance earned him a Pro Bowl selection, in which he scored a touchdown off of a Fumblerooski play handed off by former Denver Broncos Quarterback Jay Cutler. Cutler put the ball between McClain's legs in which he ran in for a touchdown.

On December 29, 2009 McClain was voted to his second consecutive Pro Bowl as the fullback for the AFC.

Derrick Mason (36), Baltimore Ravens WR - Unrestricted Free Agent:

Mason started his career with the Oilers/Titans after being drafted in the 4th round (98th overall) in the 1997 NFL Draft. In his rookie season he played in 16 games recording 14 catches for 186 yards (sounds a little bit like DHB). He made his NFL debut versus the Oakland Raiders on August 31. The following season he again played in all 16 games and this time recording 25 catches for 333 yards and three touchdowns.

Mason signed with the Baltimore Ravens as an unrestricted free agent on March 7, 2005. In his first year with the team, he started in all 16 games and recorded 86 receptions, a Ravens franchise season record. In 2007, Mason had 103 receptions for 1087 yards and five touchdowns. Mason became the first player in Ravens history to record 100 receptions. In 2008, Mason was selected as a third alternate wide receiver for the Pro Bowl. In 2008, he had 80 receptions for 1037 receiving yards and 5 touchdowns.

On September 27, 2009 against the Cleveland Browns, Mason became the 23rd Wide Receiver in NFL history to have 800 career receptions. On December 20, 2009, against the Bears, Mason became the 16th receiver in NFL history to have 850 career receptions.

NFL Records

  • All-purpose yards in a single season(2000): 2,659
  • Kick return yards in a single postseason(1999): 437

Mark Clayton (28), Baltimore Ravens WR - Restricted Free Agent:

Clayton was the 22nd overall selection in the 2005 NFL Draft by the Baltimore Ravens. He started his rookie season slowly due to various injuries but picked up speed during the latter part of the season. He finished the year with 44 receptions for 471 yards and 2 touchdowns. He also added 8 rushes for 33 yards and a touchdown.

In his second year, his stats improved significantly, with 67 receptions for 939 yards and 5 touchdowns. In 2007, Clayton had 48 receptions for 531 yards. Way down from his impressive 2006 season.

In 2008, Clayton had receptions of 70, 48, and 53 yards. He finished with 695 yards on 41 receptions and 3 touchdowns. In 2009, he had 34 catches for 480 yards and 2 touchdowns with a long catch of 54 yards.

Clayton is a young man with a tremendous upside, but he certainly a work in progress. Oakland may have too many "works in progress" to take a serious look at Clayton.

L.J. Smith (30), Baltimore Ravens TE - Unrestricted Free Agent:

Smith was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles in the second round of the 2003 NFL Draft. As a rookie he had 27 receptions for 321 yards and a touchdown. He had 34 receptions, 377 yards and five touchdowns in 2004. His touchdown total of five was the most in a season by an Eagles tight end since Chad Lewis posted six in 2001. Smith also made an impressive diving reception in the back of the end zone for the Eagles' first touchdown in Super Bowl XXXIX.

He followed up his 2004 season with a strong 2005 campaign, hauling in 61 receptions for 682 yards (both career highs) and three touchdowns. In 2006 he had 50 receptions for 611 yards and five touchdowns. In 2007 he had only 22 receptions for 236 yards and a touchdown.

On February 19, 2008 he was designated the franchise player of the Eagles. He finished the 2008 season with 37 receptions for 298 yards and three touchdowns. Smith signed a one-year, $1.5 million dollar deal with the Baltimore Ravens on March 20, 2009.

Smith appears to have leveled off after a great third year in the league, and with Oakland’s current stock in tight ends, they may never even glance at Smith.

 

Barry Cofield (26), New York Giants DT– Restricted FA (UFA-CBA):

Cofield was drafted by the New York Giants as the 124th pick in 2006 NFL Draft. As a rookie in 2006, he started all 16 regular season games and the NFC Wild Card Game at nose tackle and led the defensive line with 67 tackles (43 solo). He also had 22 QB pressures, 3 QB hits and 1.5 sacks.

In 2007, played in all 16 regular season games with 15 starts and started all 4 postseason games and finished with 41 tackles (21 solo), 1 sack, 6 QB hurries, 4 QB hits and 1 pass defended. In 2008 Cofield started 15 games, made 43 tackles and 3 sacks and forced a fumble.

In 2009, Cofield had 35 tackles (23 solo), 1 sack, 4 QB hits, and 11 hurries.

Cofield happens to play a position that is in high demand for the Oakland franchise. His size, 6’4" 306 lbs., and the fact that he played in a 4-3 where his former coach is now Oakland’s current coach, could make Cofield an interesting player to watch if he hits the market this year.

Osi Umenyiora - Disgruntled NYG possible trade bait:

Osi looked to get his career back on track in 2009, following a knee surgery that cost him the 2008 season. However, rather than a comeback year, he found himself being benched from his role as a starter in November.

Umenyiora told WFAN radio that, "I'm not going to be a back up player, I can promise you that, I'll stop playing football before I do that ever again. This has been just the worst offseason of my entire life. I can't even think of a time when things were this bad during the offseason. You're supposed to be relaxing, but I can't relax because all I can think of is the things that took place last season, you understand? So for me it's not something that I'm going to do. If I'm asked to come back there and do that then I'll just stop playing football."

"Obviously you come through a situation where you've been here for a long time and you've won Super Bowls, you've been to the Pro Bowl a couple of times, then things like that start happening, you start being benched and they say you're coming in on the third down rush, I think it almost seemed like the writing was on the wall at that particular time," he told the radio station. "I felt like I had worn out my welcome, because for certain people, no matter what happens, they'll never take them out of the lineup, you understand what I mean? So I felt that way. I felt like maybe it was my last year because of that situation."

Umenyiora’s contract runs through 2012.

Karlos Dansby, Arizona Cardinals MLB - Unrestricted Free Agent:

Karlos was drafted in the second round by the Arizona Cardinals. Since being drafted, he has turned into one the NFL's most productive linebackers, recording 24.5 sacks and 9 interceptions, taking two back for scores. Dansby is 6’3", 251 lbs., and ran a 4.56 forty yard dash at the NFL combine in 2004.

He was named to Pro Football Weekly’s 2004 All-Rookie team after starting 12 games while accumulating 68 tackles, the most of any rookie on the team and recorded three fumble recoveries, one shy of the team rookie record for fumble recoveries.

In 2005, he became the first Cardinal linebacker to record two interception returns for touchdowns in a single season and finished the year with the first 100+ tackle season of his career with 103. He followed that by finishing 2006 with 94 tackles and eight sacks, both good for second on the team, despite missing two games due to injury. In 2007 he started all 14 games he played and led team with 117 tackles, marking second season with 100+ tackles.

On February 14, 2008, he was designated as the Cardinals' franchise player. He has been franchised twice by Arizona, in 2008 and 2009. In 2008, Dansby recorded 119 tackles, 4 sacks, 9 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, and 2 interceptions, while helping the Cardinals make their first Super Bowl in team history. He followed up in 2009 with 109 tackles, 1 sack, 1 forced fumble, 6 tackles for loss, and 1 interception.

Jarrad Page (26), Kansas City Chiefs S - Restricted Free Agent (UFA-CBA):

Page signed a 3-year contract with the Chiefs after being drafted in the 7th round (228th overall pick) of the 2006 NFL Draft and is currently their starting free safety.

Nicknamed The Raider Killer by Chiefs fans, Page has intercepted four balls against the Oakland Raiders dating back to his 2006 rookie season. Three of them have been in the red zone, and three of them have been game-winners, saving the Chiefs from a potential game-winning/tying drive.

Page entered 2009 having started in 32 consecutive games for the Chiefs, but was placed on IR this season.

However, he is an intelligent performer who is seemingly always around the football and has displayed an uncanny knack for making big plays in critical situations. Page has taken on a leadership role in the Kansas City secondary. He possesses an outstanding vertical leap and is a sure tackler. He is a fearless performer who has the ability and the mentality to deliver bone-jarring hits to receivers crossing the middle of the field. He has surprising closing speed for a man his size and isn’t afraid to cover receivers down the field.

 

Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs (27) - Restricted FA (UFA-CBA):

Johnson was drafted 15th overall by the Kansas City Chiefs. After a month-long holdout by Johnson, he was signed by the Chiefs to a five year deal worth $10.4 million.

Johnson started every game for the Kansas City Chiefs in 2005, becoming the first Chiefs linebacker in 20 years to start all 16 games of his rookie campaign. He was subsequently awarded the Mack Lee Hill Award by the Chiefs (presented to the most outstanding rookie). Johnson plays inside 3-4 linebacker position for the Chiefs.

Johnson’s terrific speed and anticipation allows him to be utilized in a variety of roles and excel at both rushing the passer and dropping into coverage. Excellent play recognition has allowed him to become a major presence in opponents’ backfields, as evidenced by his team-high 16 tackles for loss in 2007.

His production dropped in 2009 playing inside LB in the Chiefs 3-4 to 37 total tackles, despite playing in 15 of the 16 games during the year. In his first four seasons, he averaged 97.8 tackles per season at right outside LB.

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haha True

Page is actually from Oakland and resides in LA during the offseason. If he walks from Kc I wouldnt put it past him being a Raider.

by tomahawk44 on Feb 18, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I expect Troy Smith to follow Jackson here and I believe that either he or LeFevour

would be an excellent choice for Gradkowski’s backup.
We need a FB too but don’t know if that’s doable with the other pressing needs, but having two McClains next year would be something else.
Osi Umenyiora seems to have some useful attitude and bears looking at.
Dansby is from the Deep South but has some impressive stats and is one of the Cardinal’s better defenders, but that isn’t saying much.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 9, 2010 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

C'Mon

Dansby is a good, mean and hard hitting MLB. Isn’t that what you want at MLB?

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by Remix. on Feb 9, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He didn't look so tough against Green Bay

Besides, what would we do with him when McClain (Rolando) comes to town?

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 9, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

How can you be so sure?

And what if we dont draft him? Say Rolando gets picked up at #5 and Oakland has already Kirk has already signed with another team because Oakland was dedicated to Rolando?

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I think getting Pendergast, with a history in KC, will affect Al's outlook on Dansby and Johnson

I sense a trend here… Al is rarely predictable, but track records dictate he likes to take players from rivals within the division, especially in years where we have coaches bounce around within the division (or at least formerly within the division).

McClain is my overall top pick, and who I’d love to see don the silver and black by far, but we musn’t put all our eggs in one basket. The greatest thing is, the depth of the draft dictates there are many plan B’s out there, all viable competitors for starting jobs and potential immediiate impact players.

The CBA, or lack of the ability to reach an agreement, will change the color of how this draft goes tremendously, and much of my speculation thus far has been predicated on the now seemingly high probablility an agreement is not reached. We have also to consider, that lockout is not entirely out of the question at this point, either.

Great breakdown on this, btw, sir. This is important offseason stuff. It seems every time I get an idea to post on what I feel is most pertinent to the current offseason situation, someone beats me to it!

That’s why I love this blog; it’s like it reads my mind! Keep up the good work, team!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, he did.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

he was good in the run game though. Most of those points were passes on a banged up Arizona secondary.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Hell no sons, he's like a mini Gradkowski with a weaker arm, Hell, if we want that we have Frye already.

He’s like 5’9, the olinemen will block his view, Hence, interceptions will occur. plus one time i saw him throw and the WR was open for a bigass gain and it hit the Olinemen’s helmet…

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 9, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Its the sad and brutal truth, there is a height requirement to be a QB. Im willing to bet that he wont be picked up by any team(unless we pick him up)

He may have heart and the dedication but u won’t succeed if u cant see. Plus I read that he cannot see beyond the line, by the Baltimore blog which they should know, he’s on their team, and they’re honest about his major flaws.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Feb 9, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew Brees

You know, the Super Bowl MVP is only a half inch taller than Smith, so that arguement is ill-placed, except when talking about Al Davis

by B.A.Armstrong on Feb 10, 2010 4:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Well said, Mr. Barackus, I mean Armstrong! Too much emphasis is still placed on the prototypical 6-5" 255, textbook delivery qb

Today’s NFL must take note: DFB has the heart of a lion (that’s Drew Brees, you add the middle initial!), and that, should by far outweigh any perceived shortcomings in stature when assessing winners.

A shorter qb must have greater pocket presence, know where the passing lanes will be, and as evidenced by Drew, be able to move through the progressions and spread the ball to almost ten receivers every game. He’s deadly at it. Deserved MVP, while some would argue Tracey Porter, Lance Moore, or otherwise should’ve come away with it.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Nise A-Team Reference

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

now that, was great television programming

rife with explosions, poor acting, shameless gratuitious violence, and predictable outcomes!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

And somehow...

No one was ever killed on that show.

by Rusty23 on Feb 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I love it when a plan comes together...

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, no you didn't

oh, no I didn’t! I resisted adding that to my comment to BA before, just knowing somebody else would! lmao

Cheers, Rusty! I got a good belly laugh outta that!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Though I'm no premiere guy, I'll be waiting in line to see that shit!

There is. I was a little bummed when I found out Mr. T won’t be playing BA though! My lady told me who it was, but I forget right now.

I’ll get back to you all on that…

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Rmapage Jackson!

Love it!

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by Remix. on Feb 12, 2010 6:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah! Ultimate fighters are typically horrible actors! I love it, too! lol!

George Peppard, Mr. T, Dirk Benedict and Dwight Shultz were too, so it’s right on point…

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 12, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Rampage

Hes a really funny guy though.haha, He might make the transistion well….Hopefully

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by Remix. on Feb 13, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Troy (per baltimore source) has shaky pocket awareness. Cant' zip the ball far, whack arm. limited accuracy.

Brees (per SB analyzation) great pocket awareness, can zip the ball anywhere, strong arm, accurate,…nuff said, just two compleely different players except for the height.
AND it goes against Davis’ views of the hail mary and long bombs. So very unlikely. But if he’s going to help in OTA’s by being competitive, then im all for it, but he wont get far with Grads already taking the reigns.

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Thier observations

are accurate based on what I saw of him during Big Ten play. Decent college QB that won’t make it in the pros. There’s no shame in that.

by Rusty23 on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Ummm

Several sites have Troy at 6’0, not 5’9. Know who else is 6’0? Drew Fucking Brees, Thats who!

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I love it, Remix. See above "DFB" references. He's earned the middle initial, thank you very much!

and I couldn’t be happier for him. I see a lot of Drew’s characteristics in a guy we have, too.

“They call me, ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ssYOMNGAc" >Bruce!"

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn these tools! I know it's not tool, but the user; I suck at 'em!

here’s the link, I meant to attach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ssYOMNGAc

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

may not be much

but Madden 10 flipflops his height between updates. They either have him 5’11 or 6’0. But he’s definitely not 5’9.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree just saying. I really don’t want him here.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

any other credible backup options though?

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Not sure

I think Grad is an UFA and who is to say another team wont just decide he is worth the risk and sign him for more money than Oakland want sot give him.
That is something nobody has brought up I beleive but it is very relevant even if he is just a FA another team can come along and get him still with little compensation or option especially if the price is just an amount that Oakland does not want to pay.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Feb 10, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

with the uncapped year and Cable retained, you can expect Gras to be back.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep: Give me Losman, Gradkowski and a rookie

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

The arm strength and accuracy

are more of a concern for me. Especially accuracy after last season.

by markdog333 on Feb 10, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

So Sons what your saying is that FREE AGENTS from the deep south are ok? ;)

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by Ozraider on Feb 10, 2010 2:53 AM PST up reply actions  

the interesting thing about it is that once and IF their approach is set before they get here they do better:

But still regress.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been considering saint's and spirals' comments on the DS phenomenon

which suggest that Oakland may be handling deep south players the wrong way and that other teams, e.g. SF, might not have the problems we have with deep south players because their systems takes a disciplinarian approach. So, to answer your question, if a player demonstrates a strong internal desire to excel, as opposed to being compelled by external force (coaches, etc.), then I’m comfortable with that player regardless of what culture influenced him.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Feb 10, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

if you look at almost all those deep south guys though, you scratch your head as to why they should have ever been here or payed as much

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

True that....Now we are anoto something...

This is data that may prove useful after five days of discussions

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

IDK

I’d take Adrian Wilson in a heartbeat, no question, and he is also one of the Cardinals best defenders.

by B.A.Armstrong on Feb 10, 2010 4:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Wilson, too, has a rapport with Pendergast.

I wouldn’t hat him at all. Nice fit for the team.
 http://www.youtube.com/watchv=7xBipuPuVYs&feature=PlayList&p=BA547DB196467FC3&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=43

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You highlight the words you want the link associated with:

Then click on the blue link button above thye post, paste the link which you already copied and then close the pop-up. Done

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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

here goes again

link

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 10, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I am going to confess something

What Wilson does on this video—that’s what I’d like to do if I were a football player.

by Spirals galore on Feb 10, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Sweet...Now, You're Dangerous!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Feb 10, 2010 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude's gnarly, for lack of a better word; Could get us some helmet to helmet penalties, though

Trent was hurting after that first hit, and he stops backs in their tracks, and separates the receivers from the ball, and the ball from the receivers. You know these guys will be getting worked out.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts

I like the Troy Smith, Osi Umenyiora and Derrick Johnson idea. Only casue all are possible.

Osi is only 28 and has another 3-4 years of solid play left in my opinion. The only scary thing about signing him would be his injury record

 Derrick Johnson is a real nice idea mostly because he probably hates playing ILB and would love to play OLB again, Plus he’s a chief and playing his former team twice a year would be interesting.

And obviously Troy Smith is the most likely signing in this situation, He wants an opportunity and he stands no chance agaisnt over rated and highly praised Joe Flacco.

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by Remix. on Feb 9, 2010 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

You obviously like Smith a lot.

Why do you think he would succeed in Oakland?

by Rusty23 on Feb 10, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

What makes you think I like him alot?

Because I said Joe Flacco is overrated? He’s highly overrated, A good D and Running game has pretty much carried that kid, I do like Troy Smith, Not alot, But I think he deserves a chance

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by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d be fine with Osi, but only if one of Ellis or Seymour went with him. I don’t want playing time taken from young studs like Scott and especially Shaughnessy. J-Rich also played good ball as well.

Though if we wanted to do something like trade Kelly and move Seymour inside with a new DT (or just with Kelly is guess) then have Osi with Ellis starting, I’d be fine with that as well.

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

McClain

Is a beast. And with O’neal being injury prone.

by $73.27 on Feb 10, 2010 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

Too bad

there are not any offensive linemen on that list. That’s a real need. A other need is MLB.
Dansby would be great, but I read somewhere that he’s looking for a huge payday. Still another need is FB and as stated above by $73.27 "McClain is a beast "and he catches the ball well out of the backfield.

by rambis64 on Feb 10, 2010 11:02 AM PST reply actions  

you are correct about Dansby. He wants big money but I’d pay him. He’s the MLB we’ve been needing for oh so long. He’s a more savvy Brandon Spikes.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

My 79 Yr old Defensive Coordinator

Is the only other person Ive heard say savvy besides you. Good Job

BR3AKF4 St 0N CR4ACK

by Remix. on Feb 10, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

lol just a term I pick up on. And often times savvy can be a great weapon to have. The grit and knowing how the game is really ran, the ability to draw on past experiences to predict what will happen; it’s not just how physical Dansby is, but how savvy he truly is.

Watch Dansby closely and you can see that on many plays he’ll be thinking two steps ahead of the running back. It’s just his level of savvy.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Time for evaluation

I think it is good to take a look at these guys on the surface based upon their relationship with the new coaches hired as they would have some inside information on the capabilities of this group of FAs. I think however a full evaluation overall looking at the entire group of FAs on the market and the crop of potential draftees available in position to be picked up.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Feb 10, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

We should pick up Vick, maybe he's lying but he said this: Per yahoo blog dude MJD

“There was a lot more I could have done off the field and in the film room that could have elevated my game to a different level,” Vick said. “I was complacent at the time, somewhat lazy, and I settled for mediocrity. I thought what I was doing was enough.”
“Just imagine what I could have been doing if I really would have been applying myself. That’s a regret I have.”
When the Fuck will Russell say this… Yes Vick is short, but damn he has a good arm and great mobility. Somewhat good accuracy(not sure).

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 10, 2010 3:26 PM PST reply actions  

Vick’s short? I thought he was like 6’0?

All I can say is OVERRATED (clap, clap, clapclapclap), OVERRATED (clap, clap, clapclapclap)

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 10, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

He looks like he's turning the corner, overrated how? he's been in jail, Better than what we have, except Grads.

Isn’t it (clap, clap, clap, clap, clapclapclap) ta-ta-ta-ta- tatatata… ;)

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by JaggerJaw on Feb 10, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Campbell from Washington; Shanahan will upgrade, and will let Campbell go for nothing

Better pocket presence than Vick.

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by brhynno on Feb 11, 2010 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

people never shut up about him on ESPN but has he done anything since coming back? Nothing noteworthy. He’s still the same inaccurate, poor pocket presenced, and scramble heavy QB. Oh, he’s also lazy. And we don’t need two lazy, me-first quarterbacks on this team.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Feb 11, 2010 6:23 AM PST up reply actions  

new coaches

bringing coaches from AFC WEST competitors is not always the way to go REMEMBER SHANAHAN . I STILL HATE THE denver broncos. always will. kansas city’s mind set is not the same as the RAIDERS.

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