Official 2010 NFL Offseason Thread
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM PDT
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PrintMoving away from the official 2010 free agency thread, I've decided to just let that one go since no one can find anything over there anyway with the amount of comments. Instead, with the majority of the free agents signed and the draft approaching even closer, I've decided that a whole offseason thread is more appropriate. Please recommend this thread so people can get the latest news.
The post itself will not be updated. I'll post everything I find noteworthy in the comment section. I encourage all of you to do the same. Discuss any rumors, trades, draft ideas or whatever else that heart of yours desires.
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I'll Start It
It seems like Jamarcus Russell was slimmer. But, reports show he is 271 pounds.
If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi
OMG
i laughed so hard at that one….thanks, you made my day a little better, now if only you could guarantee me that JRuss would read that and his feelings would be hurt…….
He has
60+ million reasons why his feeling will not be hurt by us.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
just did the math
200k per pound assuming he’s 300.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 23, 2010 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Thinking Marquise Pouncey could be on our radar
Jake Grove was taken with a fairly early pick not so long ago, the same year we took Gallery with the first round pick.
While I want Dan Williams with our first, I’d take Trent or Davis or even Bulaga, and of course Okung (I know, he’ll be taken already). It could go on line.
i don’t mind this, either. Pouncey is that guy who’d dominate the line of scrimmage every play, and even the existing guys we have would all look way better with a center like this. I’m intrigued…
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
If we went with Pouncy at least C to the left would be strong with Henderson and Gallery there - but since they ditched.
Green its obvious they’re going for an OT replacement. So I hope the Satele/Morris team steps up their play.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 19, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
He's projected late 1st early 2nd. Our second pick would be prime.
I’m not hating on Satele by any means, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy is our second overall if he’s there. Pretty exceptional talent, lauded for his Shotgun skills and the ability to recover and catch tackles. Also big and strong enough to handle most NTs by himself. Not a doubt in my mind he’d be an upgrade to Satele. Questions about his skills as a ZBS blocker, but don’t think that’s a huge obstacle for a solid guy like Maurkice.
Here’s a link to his nfldraftscout newswire: LINK
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
While I totally agree about the center position being a priority,
Henderson cannot hold down the left side. I was hopeful Barnes would help out he clearly is also not the answer for any of our line assignments. Priority #1 has to be finding a LT in this draft. It’s not going to happen in free agency because teams put a premium on left tackles. If Okung,Williams,Bulaga,or Davis are there at #8 we have to take them. I mean even if Suh is there (I know I’m going to get allot of neg with this)at #8 We have to give our quarterback time to make reads and allow receivers to get open. Suh won’t help us if our defense is on the field for 40 minutes. If after the first(If we draft OT in round one)he’s (Pouncey)still there we move up to get him. even if it costs us our forth. the guys that good. otherwise, we should take J.D. Walton, Center Baylor, 6-3/300 with our second rounder.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
I've made the same argument about the tackles, but wonder about any of them after Okung
I’d take my chances with Davis, but after that, while I agree they’d probably eventually be upgrades, I don’t think they’d usurp Mario, Khalif, or Langston for either side. Okung’s about the only guy I’d say for sure. Like I said, I’d take my chances on Davis. You’re probably right, tho, since it’s such a considerable dropoff after the first four.
Then there’s that thing where some guys don’t work out, and others who you find that go undrafted, like Jeff Saturday.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
The other two tackles I based on scouting reports and the combine
Bulaga’s outstanding blocking in the Hawkeyes’ 2010 Orange Bowl win, which helped keep Georgia Tech all-star defensive end Derrick Morgan idle, made it seem inevitable he would leave early for the NFL. His athleticism and strength are exactly what teams want on the quarterback’s blind side.
He’s: Considered a very competitive, smart and hard-working leader up front. Fought to return from thyroid condition during 2009. Cleans up piles and defends teammates on the field.
Williams strength is Pass blocking, but With a good line coach he should be able to learn better run blocking technique..very unselfish player
I watched this guy at the combine and he really impressed me. tremendously strong body.not fat like most tackles but very muscular.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
And a lot of folks almost missed how big Trent ran within hundredth of a second with big Bruce Campbell
who got all the attention. Trent out vertical jumped him too, and did nothing to hurt his stock in any of the mirror drills, or at all for that matter. I was at first high on all the top four guys, and posted on those four names too, but am wondering if Bulaga’s arms truly are short enough to put in question his production in the NFL, or if any of these guys beyond Okung are immediate impact players.
It still might be the right pick in the first, but I’m leaning towards DT Dan Williams.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
With Suh and Angerer, the other teams' D would be on the field 40 minutes
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 19, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I just can't see Russell starting more than a couple of games after what we learned last year - our learning curve
isn’t too steep but we have enough data now to pull the plug (bring out the hook) sooner than later.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 21, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Jesse james, u dirtbag stay out of my girlfriend!!!
Facebook-ty nite yes self promotion runs in the family
I even cum Black & Silver...
by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 19, 2010 8:00 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Trade Idea
How about this, We trade JaMarcus to the local ice cream parlor. In return, free ice cream at all home games.
Think about it, JaMarcus would probably shit himself when he hears hes been traded to an Ice Cream Parlor, until his agent informs him that he doesnt live there, he just works there.
And we all get free ice cream!!!
In Bruce We Trust
Cold Stone Creamery
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 19, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I've tried it with beer and my stomach aches afterwards
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 19, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
nah lets trade him to jack daniels maaaan
I even cum Black & Silver...
by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 19, 2010 1:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
At this point all we could get for him
is maybe 2 hotel ash trays and a half a pack of smokes. Which seems fair, and I don’t smoke.
Arizona Cardinals
The team has signed linebacker Joey Porter to a three-year deal.
The linebacker visited the Washington Redskins on Thursday and by Friday afternoon he was a Cardinal.
“It is exciting on many levels,” coach Ken Whisenhunt told the teams’ official Web site. “Two areas that come to mind are his productivity on the field, (because) getting 26½ sacks over the last two years is pretty impressive, especially considering last year with not even playing a full season. Also the mentality he brings, it’s something we have made great progress with as a team. Having another veteran player, who has had great success in this league, to contribute to that will only help us in an area defensively where we want to improve.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 19, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions
Interesting
I thought he was siging there along with Larry Foote. But Foote signed with Pit.
In Bruce We Trust
Boredom Mock
Rd.1- Lupati OG
Rd.2- Spikes LB (If Kirk isnt brought back) Or Kyle Wilson CB
Rd.3- Linval Joseph DT
Rd.4- Tim Tebow Duh?
Rd.5- Mike Johnson OG/OT
In Bruce We Trust
I keep seeing Linval
going in the second round in other mocks. Also Spikes ran a 5.1 in the 40 at his pro day. if that doesn’t make his stock drop nothing will.
I also think Al will take Bruce Campbell @8 But after that:
Rd.2 Linval Joseph DT
Rd.3 Vlad Ducasse FG
Rd. 4 Angerer MLB
Rd.5 Manase Tonga FB
What do you think????
You're right about Linval in the second, but:
Rd.3 Vlad Ducasse FG
not there in the third.
Rd. 4 Angerer MLBnot there in the 4th (or 3rd for that matter!, after our pick)
Rd.5 Manase Tonga FBnice. but not in the fifth if we haven’t filled DT, MLB, OT, and CB yet; you can get an undrafted FB if you’re good, and maybe in the late rounds or even FA.
What do you think????love the guys! rework it with a trading outta the first round scenario, and gimme somebody besides Bruce C. Think that our medical eval. of Bruce will forbid Al to override even this combine freak.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
You're right, it's almost
like we need 3 2nd round picks ours and trade our 1st for 2 more 2nd round picks. that way we could get Linval, Vlad and Angerer then make the most of our other picks. I thought for sure,that Angerer would be there in the 3rd. If he was maybe we could a Rodger Saffold too or a stud CB
Tebow
Will be a patriot. Once again they have over a dozen picks and do what ever the hell they want. Dammit! I hate well run teams!
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
if they pick tebow, the whole patriot nation will cry.
which is what you are hoping for i believe? ;)
An interesting take on this year's combine numbers and their all-time bests
especially from the big men. LINK
Players bigger and stronger than ever are running faster and becoming more athletic every year. It’s a little amazing that so many of the 300 pound guys are 300 mostly lean pounds and not giant bellies.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
It's "Alge" whereas "Algae" means seaweed ... I suspect you're not 100% please with this TE
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard it on espn... didn't get to see what his name actually was.
But I am stoked if they sign him. :) “Alge” Crumpler that is.
San Diego Chargers
According to Adam Schefter, the team is the most interested in free agent cornerback Nathan Vasher.
San Diego defensive coordinator Ron Rivera is familiar with Vasher from his time with the Bears.
I think that would be a pretty good signing for them, unfortunately.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 9:30 AM PDT reply actions
Can we
get rid of “burnt toast” and bring in Vasher? Oh, wait, that might make sense… Never mind.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Adam Jones
According to his agent, free agent cornerback Adam Jones had a 4.4 time in his 40 at his personal pro day yesterday.
NFL Network also reports that Jones met privately with the 49ers prior to the workout, and Lions officials visited with him Friday morning. In addition to Detroit and San Francisco, the Jaguars and Saints sent representatives.
Hey, let’s sign Jones and then do that trade Sons-of-Blanda suggested.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 9:33 AM PDT reply actions
Yes
He couldn’t cover a woodpile
He’s not elite, but he’s better than Routt.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
unless we get some team to take Routt
then we’ll be paying him top money to sit behind a cancer like Jones. I just don’t see that happening.
Your right, but I’m pretty sure I could cover better than Routt
That's not saying much
90% of people off the street are better than Routt. We just need to cut to the chase and make Mike Mitchell a corner. He would be a great man to man guy to compliment Nnamdi.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Disagree
I don’t like that idea. Mitchell’s strength is blitzing and hitting people.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 22, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Huff to corner and Branch/Mitchell as the Safeties…
by KiwiRaiderFan on Mar 25, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Huff
The funny thing is, he isn’t very good at coverage as a safety and now you want him to be a man-to-man cornerback?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 25, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Better yet, let's get Syd’Quan Thompson ... it takes a Bear to fill the shoes(?) of a Bear
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 20, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Thompson is 5'9
I just feel that you need to be 6’0 to cover the elite of the leauge
In Bruce We Trust
This one will make you like Rap-music if you tend to hate it like I do.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 21, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice Highlights
Danzig makes them for all the Cal players. He’s great at the highlights.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 21, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, a really do appreciate Danzig's work ... I'm glad for him that Cal has good subject matter
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 21, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Thompson definitely has an exciting college highlight reel
but this is exactly the kind of highlight skills that need to be viewed with perspective: many pros would have made these plays, with qbs getting the ball in there split seconds before, and wideouts more able to use their abilities and bigger bodies to shield smaller defenders rendering them non-factors in many games.
don’t get me wrong. I love Syd’Quan, but we can’t spend too high a pick, and expect him to be able to play against most NFL’s #1 and #2 guys. No question about his commitment against the run and to sacrifice his body, however slight.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
El Syd Quam Thompson started for Cal all four year in the elite Pac-10 and was All Pac-10 two years
He has a vertical leap that makes up for his 5’9" stature and plays with gusto! If we can get him in the 5-7th , I say Oh yeah, baby!
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 22, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Highway robbery in the late rounds. With that compensatory 252 we just got?
hell yes!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Thats Ol' Dirty Bastard! HAHA
Thats a nice clip, I sure wouldnt mind him coming here, But wouldnt it be alot better to have another Cal guy to mentor him?
In Bruce We Trust
I Watch, and I like this guy. Question though:
How about someone like him as a SS? Reason why is because in Man Coverage, I don’t see picks, but I see a hell of a lot of batdowns. His Tackling is Very Impressive. Also, when I watched some of the plays, it looked as if he froze to wait for the flat. I could Imagine him at SS doing all of these. Plus, it seems he gets more picks when down the field in Zone Coverage.
Note: I have not watched all of his games.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Mar 21, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
i haven't seen much of him
but we have Branch, Huff, Mitchell. Unless we trade someone in the secondary…Hiram Eugene for a 7th? I’ll be okay as long as we dont get Taylor Mays. then this is a moot choice.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 21, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Dhani Jones
The Cincinnati Bengals linebacker will climb Mount Everest.
"It’s four miles up. We’re going to go about 23,000 feet, a mile short of the top," Jones said Friday. "If you’re going to jump off a bridge, you don’t want to start out jumping off the highest bridge. I’ll get a taste and I’ll be back."
He knows there’s some danger involved, but he’s had experience climbing the mountain ranges in the Northeast United States and he’s been on many mountain as an avid snowboarder.
I wish him luck!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 20, 2010 10:27 PM PDT reply actions
Wow, this guy is a versatile athlete
Jones has already shot in high altitude this season when he wrestled in Mexico City, where he also dabbled in bullfighting. The series starts in Italy on April 13, where he rode in a 123-mile bike race that featured a 10-percent grade during the first 23 miles.
by Spirals galore on Mar 21, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Great show. Saw him Muay Thai fight too
The Everest trip might be the toughest challenge to date. Very wise to not attempt the peak the first time.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
what do you guys think about kevin mawae?
i have no faith in satele and morris is 2-3 years from being the elite center i think he will be. A good stopgap measure to shore up the o-line. The jets will be 7-9 without him
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
He is 39
Great even late in his career (w/ the Titans) though.
by Spirals galore on Mar 21, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
very true
but i’m thinking of him as a one year rental to mentor chris morris. Morris is the future at the center position. he seemed to be the starter everytime we won, and got i think 3 game balls.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 21, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Injury prone
SO not worth the cash. There is a reason he is still available.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Terrell Owens
The free agent wide receiver’s rep said that Owens has had “active” discussions with three teams interested.
Agent Drew Rosenhaus conceded that a deal might have to wait until just before camp, but we can be sure T.O. will report in shape. Rosenhaus added that there’s “no set number” as to contract terms. It’s hard to pinpoint who might want Owens, but we’d guess that the Redskins and Seahawks have discussed the idea, and wouldn’t rule out the Pats or Raiders pursuing him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 22, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
The pats better not even THINK about that son of a *****!!!
And I doubt they would be involved anyways.
omg! imagine TO and Moss badass big body reciever corp, although TO will bring bagage.
Imagine brady having to deal with both Moss and TO…“No, pass me the damn ball”
The RaiderLaker
the greatest recieving duo ever
ten years ago. the pats continue the fall. sorry patriotguy, you got 3-4 years of struggles.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 22, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They won't
once again the Pats are loaded with draft picks (4 more comp picks just added) and can draft a WR instead of bringing in a piece o crap like TO.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
i would agree but
the pats have not to my knowledge ever drafted a receiver worth a damn.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 23, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions
while that is true, and the fact that they hardly draft one in he first place,
it is probably 60-70% likely that they will in this draft. They WOULD rather draft someone than bring in TO, I can tell you that right now. Plus we also acquire players in trades during the draft, like we traded our 3rd rounder(or 5th I can’t remember) for Welker, and a 4h for Moss. We don’t need TO at all, and it’s EXTREMELY unlikely that they will even consider him.
And plus, I don’t see that pats struggling until MAYBE the next 5 years.
if you guys dont get a defense you will
and welker is your offense. without him you will struggle. don’t get me wrong, the pats will win the division, but wont advance past the first round of the playoffs. those are stuggles that i wish my Raiders had.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 23, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
let me just say(and read the whole post before typing)
Welker is a huge loss for us, but we can still win games without him. Do you know edelman? or Tate?
Let me tell you about edelman: He’s EXACTLY like welker! only a bit less quick but also faster. Edelman is, in every way shape and form, wes welker. And if anyone can fill in that void, it’s edelman.
Tate: Supposed to be a first rounder, said to be a lot better than Hakeem Hicks(or Nicks?). He’s VERY fast, and he’s excellent in route running.
But besides those two guys, let me tell you about brady(I’m going offense, I’ll go defense next): Who were the WRs he won those 3 SBs with? Well let me tell you, those names are not moss and welker. The number one WR on that offense was none other than DIEON BRANCH. In 2009, He’s coming off his SECOND BEST YEAR with the acl, and mcl, injury, and I believe he will be A LOT healthier next year(actually I know he will be). If you want me to explain how we lost in the playoffs against baltimore without welker, I think Brady was getting to used to using him. Which is why I think he’ll be better this year because he will be playing with receivers not named welker for half of the year, and that would only improve his mechanics.
As for defense, it was the #4 overall defense I think, until the saints game. Pretty good for a very young team if you don’t mind me saying. The only thing we needed was a pass rush, and our secondary was above average last year. TBC got 11 sacks, but we need someone who can be an every down OLB, which is what we’ll address come this draft year. the thing is, the team was YOUNG. probably only 3-4 guys on the starting defense who were above 30. they will have an extra year under their belt as a group, and I think the will surprise a lot of people next year.
We had a defense last year, and brady should be a lot better this year, and he won’t over throw a billion passes like he did in 09(forgot to mention that as well. Brady was average-below average the first half of the season, and he still had his second best year).
The defense was young last year, and will still be next year, but they did very well in 09, which is why I don’t think our team will be doomed on defense.
The offense, was still really good last year, despite welker taking advantages of the double/triple teams from moss. last year as well, bill O’B, our offensive Coordinator, had the offense surround ONLY Brady, Moss, and Welker. So there was no creativity last year at all. we hardly ran the ball, and hardly passed to the TE. But that does not mean in anyway that our offense will deteriorate as well. We have a bunch of young guys, who did great backing up last year, on our OL, WR, and QB core(rather not name them all).
We have our future set, and we have our team still intact. that is called very good management, which is why i do not think we will be deteriorating as a team until maybe 5+ years down the road.
also our defense was on the field A LOT last year, and they only held an average of 17 points a game i think
maybe it changed dramatically after the saints game…
We're learning a lot about one of our hated enemies thanks to you.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 23, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Ive always hated the Pats.
Before I was even a hardcore fan, I just hated them. I remember when I was in the 4th grade. They were playing the Panthers in the Super Bowl, and when they won in the last seconds. I literally cried. Thats how upset I was
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Children have a good sense of who the good guys and who the true villains are
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 24, 2010 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I kill yo- wait a minute...
I can’t say who is a villian and who’s not. DAMN!
Oh well… Teams I hate:
Cowboys(mostly when TO was there, and Toy Romo pisses me off for some reason)
Chargers(LT and Rivers, as well as merimen(hehehe))
Jets(rex ryan and his orchestra of loud mouths)
and I think that is it!
Generically, I despise any team that plays indoors
I know your (other) team plays outdoors and I do admire them for it – especially in foxborrow.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 26, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
NFL Teams Hate List
- San Diego Chargers
- Denver Broncos
- Kansas City Chiefs
- Dallas Cowboys
- New England Patriots
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 26, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
oh and steelers
because steeler nation seems pretty obnoxious, and the steelers talk a lot of shit against the pats.
why dont you say everybody in the afc west and '''''''''''
and the cowboys, steelers and pats!
by sports with steve on Mar 26, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Kc has pioli and Vrabel(who is an excellent character kind of guy. you can't help but like him)
and I like McDanials. If Shannahan was still there, the I would curse the team.
I hate 1/2 of the NFL teams:
NFC
East:: Dallas / Philadelphia / Washington
North: Minnesota / Green Bay
South: Carolina
West: S.F. / Seattle
AFC
West: StD / Denver / KC
South: Indianapolis / Jacksonville / Houston
East: N.E.
North: Pittsburgh
I love only 1/32
Oakland
I slightly like 1/8
Tennessee
NYG
Arizona
Cleveland
Am indifferent to the other 11
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 26, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
thank you much
I used to dig the pats when they had flutie and bledsoe, who was the best wsu cougar qb in the pros. then brady came along and now ijust cant stand them.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 27, 2010 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions
in response to that
A. Edelman is a good, raw talent. But I do not see welker part 2. I see Bethel Johnson 2
B. Tate? Who is Tate? If you are thinking the pats are taking Golden Tate yes he will be good. If you are referring to someone else let me know.
C. Deion Branch is a Seahawk. I have to see his jersey every day.
D. The entire passing attack requires Welker AND Moss. Outside of them I hear of no other receivers outside of Edelman and that was due to Welker’s injury.
E. The Raiders were among the least penalized teams…until about 4 games left. Its not where you were at a certain point in the season, it is where you finish. To finish my point, the Raiders finished 4th highest in penalties, if memory serves correctly.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 27, 2010 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
wouldn't let me finish my post in one sitting so
you also addressed some issues. The pats were one dimensional last year because you still refuse to get a RB, you ditched your TE at the end of the season and Brady was coming off a knee surgery that I hate to say reminds me of Culpepper’s. He will diminish. Personally what I was trying to get at was your suck will be better than ours. You face the bills twice a year, and split with the dolphins and jets. So you have 10 games with which to win 6 more. The Raiders would go 8-8 in the AFC least.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 27, 2010 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions
first of all, the afc east got better
second of all, the injury doesn’t remind me of culpeppers at all! Brady had his SECOND BEST YEAR AFTER THE INJURY!!!
If you watch edelman play, he is MOST DEFINITELY a welker clone! we all call him mini welker.
And I mean Brandon Tate. look him up on youtube highlights, he is freakin amazing.
Deion Branch sucks right now right? So if brady played with WRs who SUCK, then he would have no problem playing with WRs not named Welker and Moss(the only receiver i liked n the pats of those year was Troy Brown). That’s is a very logical statement!
Edelman played, even when welker was in, and he performed awesomely. The passing attack last year, due to Bill O’ Brien’s laziness, was ONLY welker and moss, which is why I stated, and many other pats stated as well, that O’Brien needs to be more diverse, which is how the pats won championships. This year, I can expect our offense to be more diverse, therefore it can be dngerous because teams won’t expect just moss and welker; but moss, edelman, tate, and any receiver we draft.
So I think you are very wrong that the pats are in decline right now. If there were more pats fans with me, we would bombard you with no hesitation on why we are not in a decline.
So I invite you to post your thoughts on our site, Pats Pulpit, and see why you sound foolish.
and look at how much draft picks we have this year!!!
12 of them! 4 in the first two rounds, and all 8 in the others!
We plan our future, as well as our present. That’s also a reason why we are not in decline, because we play smart in the offseason.
I'll put it this way, wish he had a different employer
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 27, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he looks like a great pickup.
Like I said, he was supposed to be a first rounder. Then he got injured. he became available to the pats in the third round. Sort of the same situation as Michael Bush.
we never really did
but they have downgraded more than they upgraded. Cromartie is only only “partial” upgrade they have, only because I don’t think he’s as hyped up to be a great corner. They got rid of Thomas Jones, and replaced a dumbfounded LT, and they got rid of the noisy Kerry Rhodes. Their defense will still be very good, and their running game is a maybe, but i think they will not be AS good as last year. But who knows, maybe sanchez will be better next year as well.
for what is't worth
http://www.raiders.com/news/article-1/Tuesday-News-and-Notes/1ee543e6-373b-4e34-b25b-4e42c01f349f
Jonathan Holland who converted from wide receiver to cornerback last season is moving back to wide receiver. He will switch from #23 to #17.
Wonder why? Now Aso has no back-up ... voila. Green is gone we take an OT, Warren is gone, we take a DT,
Ellis is gone we take a DE (unless Wimbley, who is listed as an OLB, goes to DE), Fargas is gone, we take a RB, Holland converted, we take a CB. No room for Iupati, unless Cable & Co. believe he can convert to OT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 22, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
unless mitchell is the #3 corner
wimbley was a DE his rookie year and did well. he’s been out of position for 2 years playin a 3-4. i’m thinkin late round corner, running back, wideout. early round OT, DT, MLB.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Mar 22, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This doesn't address the Raider scouts trip to TCU where their top players are DE, OLB and G ... unless you believe
they went their to see the non-entity OT – Nic Ronbinson [sic]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 22, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Holland
Oh, that’s guy? Can someone remind me why he’s on the team? He basically sucks.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 22, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions
3 recommendations for rule changes
1. Standardize protection for defenseless players.
2. Protect ball carriers whose helmets come off by blowing the play dead.
3. Expand the rule protecting long snappers from being hit immediately after a snap.
According to the report, “everyone in the league” liked these changes. Football as we know it is gonna transform:
Of the three, the one that sounds like it has the greatest potential to affect games is the first one. Fisher also said that “a player in the grasp whose progress has been stopped now becomes a defenseless player,” which would mean that if one defensive player grabs and stops a running back but doesn’t tackle him, and then a second defensive player comes in and hits him, that would be a 15-yard penalty.
Wow
A 15 Yd. Penalty for “cleaning up” as I like to call it. Thats lame, Its part of the game. What happens when the ball carrier breaks free of that grasp? Does a guy get yelled at because he didnt help his teammate? He was only following the rules.
They should change the “Roughing the passer” rule. Im tired of seeing countless penalties just because the QB pulls a Jay Cutler and falls down. Have these QB’s are acting just for the yards. Its disgusting.Ecspecially when the flag is thrown because the defender couldnt stop and runs into the QB. The damn guy doesnt have breaks like a car does he? Its riduculous
In Bruce We Trust
they take their cue from the European and South American soccer players
who have developed fakery into a sublime form of art. Hey, the World Cup!
by Spirals galore on Mar 22, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
This is yet another example of the feminization of America... if it gets worse I'm moving to Montana where there no pear-shaped men
or women with mustaches.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 22, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It is? Well then I'll move to Alaska where the deer and antelope play and there are no discouraging words and there are bears
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 22, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Palin country!
yeeeee haaaaaa!!!!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Are you serious?... thats Bullshit, wow, lame ass league. They get payed more and get protected more. WTF
In the old days they barely got payed and played more hard and dirty, now u get payed way way more and u get way more protected with stupid rules? I luv it when one dude gets a hold of the RB or WR holds him holds him and Boom!!! your teamate cleans it up or you actually do it purposley.
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The Patriots
were just awarded 4 comp picks. Can we please look at these guys and see why they remain on top all of the damn time. Every year they go into the draft with a dozen picks from comps and trades from years past. Bill B is an asshole, but the guy knows football.
We are lucky to have 7 every freaking year.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
They'll get all Busts and cheap (non-football) players, screw the Pats Its all about the Raiders.
They get many picks but choke now, when in the playoffs. (evil smirk)
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Choke in the playoffs?
They have 3 rings in the last decade, matched by no one else. 50% of draft picks are total crap, but if you have 12 every year, you stand a better chance.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
the more picks the merrier.
But the raiders are improving. If they have a good draft, I’m betting 8-8.
um... players that we acquired of Comp picks include
Brady and Casse. Those are pretty damn good picks. Also we got Pryor, and a cuple of good OL. :)
I kill you!
cory redding signed with the ravens
good pickup. do they want kirk?
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
barry sims reupped with the niners for a year
so sad they’re going to be 7-9 this year.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
NFC West
San Francisco is going to win the division, I bet. Arizona has gotten weaker and Seattle is going to have to make significant improvements. You can forget about St. Louis altogether.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 23, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona has been working consistently to improve it's defense - they'll be more balanced next year without the fireworks
on O.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 23, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I think San Fran is a QB away from being a real threat
Alex Smith is a failure and he’s gonna prove that this year(again)
Arizona is gonna be average, losing Kurt is a huge loss for them. But they still have Larry “The Freak” Fitzgerald and their D is getting stronger.
St. Louis- Well, There gonna have the #1 overall pick come 2011.
Seatlle is gonna suprise alot of people I think. I have a feeling Pete Rose is gonna make some smart decisions and depending on who the QB is, I think they have a legitmate shot at being a suprising threat to San Fran
In Bruce We Trust
Wait
Pete Rose is into football these days?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 24, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Rose
Ah, if only he had bet on football instead of baseball. If that was the case, he’d be where he belongs and that’s Cooperstown. (I think that would have been okay, anyway.)
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 24, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
FA CB Frank Walker has been talking with the Raiders
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Frank-Walker-drawing-more-interest.html
Baltimore Ravens veteran free agent cornerback Frank Walker is on the verge of scheduling some visits with NFL teams, according to a league source.
Walker has been talking with the Oakland Raiders, St. Louis Rams, Houston Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
His representatives have remained in touch with the Ravens.
The Ravens haven’t ruled out re-signing Walker, an aggressive, physical cornerback whose primary drawback is being prone to a lot of penalties.
by Spirals galore on Mar 24, 2010 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
Great ... another knucklehead ... If Hugh Jackson is behind this he needs to stick with his OC duties
“But Frank’s a better player than what people think. I get as frustrated with Frank as anybody does and Frank knows that. He’ll tell you about it and he’ll laugh about it.
“Frank has got as much talent as any corner in the league. He’s tough, he’s competitive, he’s a physical guy. He loves to play the game. When he gets carried outside of his technique he struggles just like any corner does.”
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 24, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions
trade for mcnabb
trade the number 8 pick and morgan for the number 24 pick and mcnabb then draft a DE in the first and an OT in the second and then in the fourth draft dan lefevour so if mcnabb doesnt want to resign (he will more than likely not want to) we could have a good franchise quarterback and have gradkowski mentor him and dont let jacanthittheoceanwhilestandingonthebeach russel any where near lefevour or any where near a football feild
rams have offered a 2nd round pick and player for mcnabb
you will here this all day and this will change the draft also. if the rams get mcnabb then do they draft an o tackle at #1 or suh at #1. this wil change the whole draft in the 1st round and everyone has to rethink the pics.
by sports with steve on Mar 25, 2010 8:47 AM PDT reply actions
The Raiders should trade a second round pick for McNabb or somehow trump their offer.
I said it many times last year, but the Raiders would challenge for the playoffs with an average quarterback. With McNabb, they would have an outside shot of making the playoffs and it would be fun. The Raiders just need to smell some success.
And they wouldn’t have to use a high pick on a QB and could build up the lines.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
Oops
I broke it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 26, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh
Well, JaMarcus Russell is still on the roster the last time I checked!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 26, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
why aren't the 49ers intrested in mcnabb?
by sports with steve on Mar 26, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Question
I don’t know why they aren’t. I would be if I were them since they’re in a great position to win their division. Maybe they are interested in Donovan and we just don’t know, but San Francisco should be floating out there a lot more than Oakland and Buffalo in terms of interest in McNabb.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 26, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders interview LB Jamar Chaney
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Jamar-Chaney-ran-a-445-today.html
According to a league source, Chaney was clocked between 4.45 and 4.48 seconds in the 40-yard dash on NFL scouts’ stop watches.
Following the workout, the Oakland Raiders conducted an extensive interview with the former Bulldogs standout.
Chaney was the fastest linebacker at the NFL scouting combine with an official time of 4.54 seconds ahead of Florida State linebacker Dekoda Watson’s 4.56.
Jamar Chaney - MS State (DS) 6-1" 242 4.54 official 40 and only 26 reps. Predicted to go as ILB after Angerer
Positives: Plays pretty well in zone coverage, speed allows him to cover tight ends in man coverage as well… Good ability to read and react, maintains gap control on most plays… Missed all but one game of 2008 but showed durability starting every game in 2009… Consistent productivity (totaled 89 tackles in both 2007 and 2009)… Good at breaking down and making open-field tackles… Versatility, split time between inside and weak-side backer… Excellent blend of size and speed, has adequate bulk and ran a 4.54-40 at the combine.
Negatives: Tackles too high and doesn’t drive feet well, more of a drag-down tackler… Not a hard hitter, needs to work on running through the ball carrier… Lacks strength to get off blocks easily, must work on finesse moves to get past blockers… Could add some upper-body muscle to help shed blocks.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 25, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This gives a better perspective below link: On the one u posted Its to close on that feed, and looks unimpressive, this one better...
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It seems he knows how to shed blocks... specifically went up against an LSU linemen (6'4 315 dude) and shed him...impressive
or maybe its because he’s from LSU….
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Raiders in hot pursuit of McNabb
NFL.com is reporting the Oakland Raiders are the team in the greatest pursuit of Philadelphia quarterback Donovan McNabb.
This story has heated up in the last two days. It clear we all need to keep our eyes on this as it develops.
Give credit to Oakland for recognizing it needs to improve its quarterback crew. I don’t necessarily think McNabb, 33, is the right answer for many reasons. But if he comes very cheaply and if he becomes open to the idea of playing in Oakland, this pairing could be intriguing.
I bet its all Al, he never fuckin learns.... I bet we would give something significant like our 2nd and then
He wont resign next year and we will be ridiculed.
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I believe philly wants a second rounder in the deal.
I think that’s a horrible deal. He’s worth a 4th rounder, 3rd at the most.
If they can get him for something like the 8th pick and a later pick maybe, for McNabb and the 24th pick, then this would be an awesome deal.
The difference between the offensive linemen at number and the ones at 24 are not that big of a difference. We got Gannon around the same age as McNabb is right now, and Gannon gave us 5 really good years. I’m not saying that McNabb will be as good as Gannon was for us, but McNabb definitely has a lot left in the tank.
Naw, more like just our 2nd (don't forget its a high second) for their second ans McNabb.
They want to unload him, lets see if they are desperate, i mean cmon they got 3 starting caliber QB’s in Vick, Kolb, and McNabb.
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I would do that
High second for low second and McNabb would be an awesome deal if we can re-sign him.
The thinking also could go along the lines of bringing in McNabb so that he can give the Raiders the best chance of succeeding this year and asking him to help develop Russell.
It’s worth noting that McNabb had flattering things to say about Russell a few days before the Eagles played the Raiders at the Coliseum last season and went out of his way after the game to speak with Russell.
"Not all the negative aspects of what’s been going on should fall on JaMarcus because it’s a team game," McNabb said in a conference call with Raiders beat writers four days before the Raiders beat McNabb and the Eagles.
McNabb said that Russell’s progress has been retarded by the high turnover in coaches, offensive coordinators, play-callers and players during his first three seasons.
It’s a tough situation for him," McNabb said in the conference call. "I’m sure that he’s going to do what he has to do in order to pull himself out of it, and just make sure the guys understand that he’s putting in the effort as well."
by Spirals galore on Mar 25, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I am calling for an official McNabb boycott!!!
Bruce is cheaper, better, younger, ballsier, etc. I’d do a straight Kirk for Samuel trade.
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
Disagree
Gradkowski is absolutely not better than McNabb. Don’t be stupid. Gradkowski is younger and cheaper, but he’s not better and we don’t know about “ballsier” yet.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Pitt game = balls when the throws he made in the last minutes could've been intercepted but Murphy is damn good too = ballsy
Bruce’s durability = no ballsy (at least get him some protection, can be fixed) Of course he is not like McNabb (as good as McNabb?, at least not yet) but they are different players anyways.
The RaiderLaker
Right
McNabb has never made big throws before that could have been intercepted. The guy clearly has no balls.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
i think in terms of how each one throws the ball
they are different, but other than that, they do have some similarities.
Washington Redskins
The team may be interested in bringing in a big name at wide receiver such as signing free agent Terrell Owens or trading for Denver’s Brandon Marshall.
Washington had Antonio Bryant in for a visit, displaying their interest in adding a pass-catcher.
Spoiler alert: He isn’t tipping his hand. Shanahan wouldn’t rule out either receiver and indicated that as free agent prices fall, the Redskins could get involved in the bidding process with some players well after the draft.
Shanahan strongly considered signing Owens in 2006, before the outspoken, headline-grabbing receiver joined the Dallas Cowboys.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
Damn, Antonio still hasn't signed? wow, i'm surprised...Is he a cancer like TO or something? Teams are staying away...
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Bryant
The Bengals signed him a while ago. That’s why his visit with Washington was canceled.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN Sources: Raiders emerge has leading canidates for Donovan McNabb
Oakland is offering a 2nd Rd. Pick for Donovan.
In Bruce We Trust
I would do it if he re-signs.
I’m glad it didn’t mention Nnamdi in the article, so that we can hang on to our top guy. I think McNabb would eventually re-sign with us. If we can build a decent o-line around him, get a solid defensive tackle, and with the Chargers probably getting a little worse, the Broncos not really doing anything, and the Chiefs not getting that much better besides Jones, I think we can winthe division. Plus, Hue Jackson is a distant cousin, so who wouldn’t want their cousin as their coordinator? He wouldn’t turn his back on his family.
McNabb
While I don’t think he’s elite, he’s an obvious upgrade over all of our quarterbacks on the roster. If he would sign an extension, I’d be more willing to give up something of value. For our second pick, I still don’t know about this; however, it’s not yet true so I will not worry.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 29, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he’s not elite, but he is pro bowl caliber and giving up a second rounder is a pretty good deal for a pro bowl qb if we can sign him to an extension. Although I would not like giving up the second rounder, I think that he’s worth it. Just think of it as a steal if it happens. Compared to the Cutler trade (Bears had to give up a ton), the Roy Williams idiotic trade (1st and 3rd for a decent wideout), and a buch of other trades. He’s 333, but Gannon came here at 33 and gave us 5 great seasons. If there is a chance of something even remotely close to that hapenning with McNabb, then I will take that for a second rounder anyday.
McNabb
is an elite QB. Over his career, you can’t argue with his accomplishments. As I mentioned earlier, the guys wins the superbowl a few years back, he should be mentioned in hall of fame discussions. he simply played in an era dominated by manning, warner, and brady who deservingly overshadowed his accomplishments. Difference with Gannon is that Gannon sat on the bench for several years as backup, when he arrived in oakland, he had fresh legs for a 33 yrs old player. McNabb has taken a pounding over the last 5 years. So it comes back to what are you giving to pick him up for essentially 2 years, maybe 3 tops. Cutting JR and picking up McNabb will save a boatload of cash the first year, if tagged, McNabb will cost us year 2 & 3 much more (potentially $15 to $20 mm as both Brady and manning are about to sign for those numbers). The only way this works is either a 3rd/4th round pick or sending an expiring contract the other way.
by raiders4liffe on Mar 30, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
i think we should trade down with our #1 pick, and somehow get a second rounder out of it.
i’m sure we need those picks.
Nathan Vasher
The San Diego Chargers have signed the free agent cornerback to a two-year deal.
Vasher is a five-year veteran, having spent all his previous seasons with the Bears.
“In Nathan Vasher, we’re adding a proven NFL player with experience in the league,” said general manager A.J. Smith. “Having played in Chicago under Chargers Defensive Coordinator Ron Rivera (2004-06) and Secondary Coach Steve Wilks (2006-08) is an added bonus.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 29, 2010 4:14 PM PDT reply actions
They can have him. He is a downgrade from Cromartie.
If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.
by Parental Advisory on Mar 30, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
im sure we will test him right away!
he is a downgrade but the superchokers have to fill holes
by sports with steve on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
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