That 1st pick: Which "Position upgrade" improves us most
Over the past decade, Raider hierarchy failed with its first draft pick 60% of the time (only Huff '06, Gallery '04, Asomugha '03, and Janikowski '00 can be considered successes). During the same decade, Oakland's draft picks got better after the celebrated and hyped 1st selection.
Most of you know who the big name draftees are, where they played and even their combine metrics - well and good. But right now, let's just decide where our biggest need is and determine the single positional upgrade that would do more for us than any other? Then, we'll determine the best prospects in that single position and bring the best one to Oakland. The Focus here is only on the 1st pick - #8 on April 22nd.
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We really could use an all around anchor/presence/personality to bring our D together. We’ve never gone out and picked up a monster for the middle and theres no way around having that beast to keep our D and offenses in check. Last year we saw houston come alive thanks to picking a good lb and cincinati too. U cant deny it…
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 6:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions
with all the shit seattle has been doing these past few days
what kinda trade would it take to get lofa tatupa down here. i would love a straight up tuff samoan guy in the middle. oakland needs some more gritty samoans, come on tyson in the 3rd!
What did i say "THERES NOT ONE USO IN THE GODAMN DRAFT UGH!!!" and we missed maualuga GRRR!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
i hated missing rey last year!
you know he would of been a bad ass raider, coming from eureka! still pissed. at the senior bowl oakland had koa misi eared down hes gotta be SAMOAN PRIDE! i know hes an DE/OLB he is built to jump in the middle. 6’3 250. from santa rosa, gotta have some fight in him but college in utah means hes got discipline. might be a 4th round sleeper
by rodeosnake12 on Mar 9, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
swear id have all my LBs USO's!!!! only way to go! hahaha my people!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
well hopefully all the interest
cable was giving to misi and aluala at the senior bowl, we land one of them to get samson some FAMILIA
by rodeosnake12 on Mar 9, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
original Raiders! we got headunting to do uuso!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
I believe this will be unanimously DT
but I wonder why OT and C was left out too? I’d still answer DT, even though I think the first pick should go on OT, simply because the best 8 pick worthy guy that will be there will be one of the remaining tackles. After Okung, there’s not many I’m 100% on, but I’ll take my chances, or trade down and take Brian Price in the first. Get Brandon Spikes in the second.
You could argue that we’d play much better with a better MLB, both on the line and at every other defensive position, but get us a true NT to eat up two gaps consistently, and watch how good our existing lbs will look. I still say upgrade at DT, MLB, and OT first, in the order in which the best players are to be taken as available at those three.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
+1
I think its a toss up between OT-C-G (any OLineman), MLB, DT, it will depend on who is left when we get to our pick…..UNLESS we trade up to specifically get someone. I like Suh and I guess McClain as MLB.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I would trade up and take Suh or McCoy
and leaning towards taking McCoy for some reason, I haven’t exactly put my finger on it yet. McClain would be awesome, but I’m getting the feeling Al won’t be looking to fill that position, or very hard at McClain with that pick. Think he might be eyeballing a different guy at the spot; perhaps a late, or at least later than 2nd round sleeper. Angerer, maybe?
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
DT is the biggest need (of those mentioned)
When the team played better run defense we had a lunch-pail type guy in Jon Parella & Sam Adams who was a space-eater. They made the linebackers’ jobs alot easier. While Morrison made be considered overrated keep in mind he has never had two pro-bowl caliber DTs in front of him in the 4 years he’s been with the team. If he had something like the Williams brothers in front of him I’m sure he may have had much better production.
Stop the bleeding?
Dude if you watched us play last year you would see we leak everywhere like and 90 year old man on ST Pattys day. The D is not just the only issue. We may fix it with a healthy OLine this year but I think we should draft whoever is available at the need positions we have in OL, DL and LB.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Where is OL?
I’d pick OL, but out of these choices I have to say MLB. Especially if McClain is there. There are plenty of great DTs in the draft that we can take.
But first.....
Trade Morrison to the pats, in exchange for a second rounder. Please? Pretty Please?
Hey sorry but im resorting to %
We’ve all seen all pro tackles on both sides of the line as well as de’s and te’s come from later rounds…we have also seen lots of avg and floppy players of those positions come from high rounds were as the percent of flop to game breaking LB’s from the first round is much lower, great lbs make everyone better.
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 6:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
can we get a greg lloyd!?!!
Ray maualuga, clay matthews, ray lewis, levon kirkland, someone to make them PAY FOR THEIR SINS!!!!!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 6:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
SOMEONE TO MAKE THEM PAY!!! I WANT BLOOD AND I WANT IT NOW!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
MICAH JOHNSON IN THE MIDDLE FOR SOME PAIN!!!!! (KENTUCKY utube him)
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Ahhh Damn!
I want a mulligan lol I accidently voted for QB. Personally, Its way to hard for me to decide. There is so much talent in the 2nd and 3rd round I almost wanna trade our 8 pick for two 2nds. But, If I had to choose. It would have to be Corner. Theres crazy talent in the 2nd,3rd and maybe even 4th a LB. An OT can be picked up in the 3rd and a DT can be picked up in the 2nd 3rd or 4th
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
I put DT
but can we find another good DT in the second round? Im kind of stuck on several positions…
Linebacker- i feel we can get another talented linebacker in other rounds but McClain is very tempting
Tackle- yes our offensive line is shaky but we a couple that could already that play fine just need to be a bit more consistant but I can be wrong and an improvement on the offensive line cant hurt.
DT- we HAVE to stop the run and we havent for a while but like i said can we find a good DT later?
CB- I did not think of this position really but then what about Eric Berry? Yes he is a safety but they have said he can play any defensive back position. He’s big, fast, can jump really hi, imagine having two shutdown corners? Nhamdi and Berry, than Johnson and maybe Mitchell. because Routt is a fuck up and i wish he was gone or something.
Point Blank the Raiders BIGGEST NEED in this draft with the first round pick is
LEFT TACKLE!!!! None of the other players at that position will last more than 2 maybe 3 more years, this draft offers a wealth of talent at that position this year and we would have to be nuts to ignore that…Forget every recommendation given to vote on, Please!!! are you kidding me…Last year I said we need to pick up Mike Vick, people cried, yet he is a former All Pro, now we live with 3 mediocre QB’s and don’t talk that wildcat mess if you have never opened a playbook. Vick is NOT a wildcat QB, he is a QB that can run. There are four Left Tackles that would fit right in at the 8th pick…1. Russell Okung, Oklahoma State, 2. Anthony Davis, Rutgers 3. Treat Williams, Oklahoma 4. Selvish Capers, West Virginia. Bryan Bulaga, Iowa has what I call “Robert Gallery Syndrone”, his arms are too short to be an NFL Tackle and he will be moved to Guard. However, I really like Anthony Davis from Rutgers, but if any of these guys are on the board and we don’t select one, if further shows that Al has lost his mind. Second round we can look at the above positions and in the third though I think it is a little high, but if Tebow is on the Board, I would draft him, unless there is another player that should have been a first rounder but slipped through the cracks. Tebow will be winner in the NFL, he works too hard not to be, and he knows how to win…. Though he is not ready, he will bust his but to get ready, something J-Russ seems to have a problem with…
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions
Tebow is not disenfranchised enough
Al imagines himself as the savior of lost souls (he doesn’t care about the players, only about his self-perception). Tebow is not among them. Unless Al thinks that he can convert him to Judaism.
by Spirals galore on Mar 9, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 7:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Only 1 may be chosen to fill the single most vulnerable position - do you truly believe that any of the OTs, Gs, or Cs
(with Okung certainly gone by the time we pick) would positively impact our team as much as the best available DT or MLB?
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 9, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
MLB...no way around it
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 7:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No doubt, because quite frankly, Andrew Davis, may be better than Okung, and Treat Williams
is on par with them..This is the best Tackle class in years and if you want to win you have to block..Last Super Bowl win, Art Shell was tackle All Pro every year with Gene Upshaw next to him…It is time to get the Tackle of the future while he is there to draft. Even Capers is a great tackle, I didn’t mention Campbell because he is a second round pick, and if he is there with our second pick, I would get him also…Now both tackles of the future are on the roster… You do make good points, but we need to give our QB’s the ability to stand there and make plays…ie Peyton Manning..And we cannot do that with the line we have now.
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
we made this mistake in the 04 draft
its a crap shoot with olinemen making the transition from college to the pros, but i wouldnt complain taking the chance on one vs. another rb,qb,wr, or safety in the first.
We have a special group of Tackles this year, it is like Elway, Marino, etc in the
1983 draft. This is the best group of tackles I have seen and it is hard for O lineman because many are overrated but not this group..Only Balaga, and Campbell are overrated…The others will come in and start…They are that good.
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
right
and jake long made absolutely NO impact with the dolphins…
Well
After watching the combine with some of the OL drills and all I can say is UGH! Some of those guys look like they are gonna trip over their feet walking down the street.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
that was my impression. The scouts are blowing smoke over these linemen - they move like robots (and not the new
cyborgs with smooth articulations) – Campbell reminded me of a group of blue-belts doing their kata at an examination. If we use the 1st for an o-lineman it’s automatically a bad first pick.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 10, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Lefevour over Tebow, any day of any week
and never to Tebow on this team.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Heavens no! nor with any of our first three!
This year’s qb class is too green, and not deserving of any fiirst rounders. The Rams will even be reaching on Bradford.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
+1 sort of
IF Tebow is there in the 5th (I doubt it) roll the dice and take a chance on him. He has athletic talent. I dont care if you are male/female/shemale/wanna be a male/use to be a female/gay/straight/bible thumper/whatever I am an equal opportunity bigot I hate everyone on the same level. Just go out and give me 100% and show you care. Tebow is hungry and wants to play I say give him a shot and if he looks blah in TC then set the fuck free.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
The kid def has heart, and there's no question he'll come out to play
at the very least, with Tebow or Lefevour, you got guys who can probably line up at wideout for ya. True athletes with big strong bodies.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
None of the above
We need O line more than any other position. Let us all remember all three qb’s going down due to injury and JP freaking Losman coming in. We are in a QB driven, offensive league now, and if the QB can’t stand up for more than 3 seconds then we are royally screwed.
Other than that, MLB, and DT are the next on the list.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
OK people lets hear who is your top LB pick?!?!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 8:11 PM PST reply actions
My list goes like this
Sean Weatherspoon
Pat Angerer
Navarro Bowman
Rolando McClain
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Come on people lets hear your lists!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, Rmx, McClain keeps falling every day - do you know something or is it the DS article that's haunting you?
Angerer and Weatherspoon are right up there (close) with Rolando.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 9, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
Its more of a gut feeling I guess
When I saw him at the combine, I saw the same look I see on JR all the time. It was almost instant when I started doubting him. It just snowballed from there, I started questioning everything about it. Now, Hes gone from #1 to #3
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Correction. I forgot about Spikes
Sean Weatherspoon
Brandon Spikes
Rolando McClain
Pat Angerer
Navarro Bowman
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Me next
McClain
Weatherspoons
Angererer
Eye-gouger
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 9, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
Angerer is just getting angrier by the day
AngererER haha Too many er’s
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Best MLB name of the lot
Rolando sounds like a poet or musician and Sean’s last name would have to be changed if he come here to Weatherknife or something more intimidating.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 9, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
It is quite mean huh? I like Spikes as well. As for Weatherspoon,
If he comes here. I think we’ll just have to give him a nick name and make some t shirts or something. Weatherspoon wont stick.
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Keaton Kristick lmao what a west coast weirdo! perfect draft him 8th pick!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
OK my list!
Spikes, Al will never pick him with a mug like that!
Angerer, makes up for siz with the name, still suspect but the smile and the name gotta mean he’s painfull!
Micah Johnson: Heres the guy who would do it, second rounder, Nasty Killer, like demented! all we need
Keaton Kristick: pac ten good D, Total Weirdo but solid LB and that makes a Raider dont it!?!
oh and yeah who is that and that? i know but trust me i did enough checking Micah Johnson is our man! damnit why am i not drafting!!?!? ugh!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah it really sucks theres not a single uso on the list!!! GRRRRRRRR
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Kristick, unanimous All Pac10 LB in 2008, 2009
Raiders are famous for finding defensive players that are smart, talented, nasty and a bit weird. Villipiano, Hendricks, Millen, Tatum, Atkinson and Long come to mind. The knock on Kristick is that he lacks prototypical size for a LB (he’s 6’3" 235), too slow at (ran 4.64 @ combine and 4.61 at pro day). Closing speed and FB geometry is also off the charts. High character and motor (was nominated to both the Bednarik and Lott award).
Late 3rd round pick. Lots of “quiet” interest in this 21yr old around the league.
He has the right name
His name is perfect for playing on the Raiders I will give him that and maybe it transfers onto the field.
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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I'm really liking Weatherspoon...
…especially after that fancy get-up at the Combine.
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check out micah johnson!!! thats what we need!
nobody comes in contact with his hand without going down!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe we should draft his hand then, might be cheaper?
I watched a video on him and I can say I have worries about his tackling and his over-pursuit; he also seems a bit slow but I really don’t mind that (Al does). I will say that did always seem to be in the play no matter where it was.
I looked up a scouting report and it basically said the same thing I was thinking about his tackling.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
Yeah well thats something that you can teach a rookie, he's the beast in the middle for sure tho!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
I just finished watching some tape on Angerer and I really like him.
Good in coverage, good against the run, and hits like a Mack truck. Also you can’t go wrong with the name.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
It's still the same way they'll fall:
McClain
Spikes
Weatherspoon
Bowman
Angerer
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Ok the biggest NEED we have is none of those on the list. Its clearly right tackle
We need someone opposite Mario Henderson (one of the only project players who have turned out to be a good player along with branch) to hold down where cornell greens awful ass was at.
Next need i think we have is a tie between corner and DT(particulrly nose). At the no. 8 pick if we go tackle then at our 2nd rounder there should be players like terrence cody, kyle wilson, cam thomas, and brandon ghee available. If all those guys are there, Id take wilson.
After those needs, I would say linebacker, hopefully a mauler who can move morrison to outside.
No doubt, because quite frankly, Andrew Davis, may be better than Okung, and Treat Williams
is on par with them..This is the best Tackle class in years and if you want to win you have to block..Last Super Bowl win, Art Shell was tackle All Pro every year with Gene Upshaw next to him…It is time to get the Tackle of the future while he is there to draft. Even Capers is a great tackle, I didn’t mention Campbell because he is a second round pick, and if he is there with our second pick, I would get him also…Now both tackles of the future are on the roster… You do make good points, but we need to give our QB’s the ability to stand there and make plays…ie Peyton Manning..And we cannot
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions
ALTHOUGH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, lets remember now who is making the picks...
Its good ole’ Al Davis. Size and speed are a premium. And with that, and the release of Greg Ellis, there is a spot open for a guy by the name of Jason Pierre Paul. Huge and fast and outrageously athletic fits the “Al Davis type pick” mold for sure.
To go along with that pick, in the 2nd rounder we have a guy by the name of Bruce Campbell (who very well could be there), an RT who ran a 4.85 forty at the combine. Again, a HUGE project player, but he fits a need and fits the typical height/weight/speed mold that al davis wants.
You are right on Davis, and if he goes that way, we will continue to get our asses kicked
period..Because our Offensive line especially Tackle is WEAK…And no blocking, no wins…If Campbell is there in the second I would take him, even after taking a tackle in the first…I would have to look for diamonds in the rough with the later picks..And if Tebow is on the board I say it again, i would take him 3rd or 4th round…
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
+1
There is no telling what Al will do when he wakes up on draft day and decides “that CB out of East Wilmington State looks fast, take him at the #2 position by trading up not matter the price!” OR we can hear "In the #8 position the Oakland Raiders take _____________ (insert any sane pick discussed on S&B Pride) so we can all have some relief.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
By the way, Dick Butkus proved you can have the greatest Linebacker in the league
and can’t win the division, let alone the championship..If you want to win, we need to score, our D is not that bad, given time to rest and being motivated by a scoring offense they would stop teams all the time. If we scored, we’d win the division, because our Defense is not great, but they are not bums either, we have a running game, and with blocking and maybe a receiver that won’t drop the ball we would put up numbers and win games…O line, or we go 5-11, 6-10…mark my words…
by Rodney Sacramento on Mar 9, 2010 8:56 PM PST reply actions
instead of wasting our 8th on an olineman
just sign that actress from the movie precious, she could fill a hole on the front line! thats what i’d do
thats disgusting...
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you werent one of the people bothered by my signature~!!! she's waaay more disgsting!!!
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
get a small fishing pole
strap it to hear forehead, with a donut attached. You’re all set.
I voted for DT because I want our lines to get stronger
but if I had a choice it would be an offensive tackle for the right side. I think part of our defense’s problem in stopping the run is our offenses inability to get off the field and maintain a consistant running game. I’d also like to see if Grad can make it through the season with a better o-line, otherwise he will be running for his life.
The Airman of Westwood
Huff showed some improvement last season
but I’m not sure you can say he’s proven himself yet and Gallery was drafted to be a stud left tackle and he’s turned into a serviceable guard so I see that pick as being alright but nothing to brag about.
As far as this draft goes it’s hard to know exactly who’ll be available with the pick but I would lean towards the defensive tackle position if the player available matches the spot. If not then try and trade down and grab an extra pick or two.
First at #8
Without a doubt, my vote would be an offensive lineman! The quarterback(s) need time to establish, read-react, throw, etc.; which is not happening with our team. Plus, because the defense is on the field so quickly and soooooo long for lack of offensive-play, it is hard to determine where the true deffensive faults lie, other than with the play of Stanford. …Also, rodeosnake12 and Tramp it is fu##ing weak to try and get a laugh at someone else’s expense when you’re hidden behind a curtain/computer. Raiders fans I tailgate with do not play ‘hide-n-seek’ BS games, if we do not like you we are in your face with our ’dis’satisfactions.
what the fuck are you talking about??? REAL
hidding about what? your calling me out on a comp. what the fuck does that say 4 you and your curtain/comp comment.
by rodeosnake12 on Mar 10, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Actress laugh?
‘What-up’ with the Precious actress quip? It was not funny and it has nothing to do with our team getting better!
YOU SEE ME LAUGHING? WHO ARE YOU ANYWAYS?
and for your information my FACE unlike yours is on my ish so check it out know me…
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by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 10, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
Follow-up
Maybe I misread your follow-up with rodeo, if so, apologies are in order; the uncalled for jokes about the actress have nothing to do with what we need to become a better team.
I thought it was funny as hell
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
we need meat on the LOS
so me bringing her up was a metaphor for what we need. if im still HIDING, facebook eddie schaack. look me up remember my face and come say hi if you see me at a home game.
@REMIX thanks, me too
by rodeosnake12 on Mar 10, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Needing meat and meet
I receive and respect that Mr. Schaack.
when was the last time we stopped the run?
we need a power pig dt who can stop the run. a big burly guy so let warren go and get a dt . then a lb then a o line tackle then a rback. thats our needs
by sports with steve on Mar 10, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions
Mclain is the player that would have the biggest impace for us imo
Mclain has been described as Saban on the field and in regards to DT, I thought Kelly was solid last season (not worth the money he is being paid but solid) Seymour will play end on passing downs and DT against the run and Bryant, a high quality prospect imo, should get quality reps.
With Kirk being given a 3rd round tender Mr Davis is baiting another team to offer and collect the 3rd round pick which in a very deep draft is smart especially knowing that he can draft Mclain or even trade up to pick Spikes if required.
Ideally we keep Kirk and draft Mclain anyway but i guess we will see what happens.
Having said that I thing if you could guarantee a high quality LT in the first round with Brandon Spikes in the second or trading up for him I think that would be the perfect draft scenario.
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Offense
I’d rather see them draft an offensive lineman. I think the defense will improve if they can stay off the field for a while. Our offense can’t hold a sustained drive. And just to add one point, I don’t like them cutting Fargus.
My Dilemma
We really need a guy who can be a potential franchise quarterback, but I don’t see one in this draft. Jimmy Claussen (if he falls) might be worth a risk at #8.
I put DT on the poll, because I think we can get an impact DT at #8. The problem is the 1st round worthy DTs may be gone by the time we pick.
I say we take the best player on the board because we simply need help everywhere.
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best player on the board????????????
we can use every mock idea who we will take. i really think defense players are goona get drafted 1st. the draft is heavy on d players. who will be there, its hard to say with the unknown factor. 3 teams that need qbs are seattle and washington and clevland. so as i see we have the good chance of landing a good d tackle/lb. thats the hardest part of being at #8 this year, who is the best dt-lb at 8
by sports with steve on Mar 10, 2010 9:07 AM PST reply actions
Agreed that "best player on the board" applies only between DT or MLB. The DT everyone wants (like the OT everyone wants)
will be gone by 8. It’s different with the LBs … they’re likely to be all there for us to select from.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 10, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I found a guy we could take with the first.... ;) at 6'6 330 a great prospect.
This guy looks like he can handle NT’s all by himself, and has Raider written all over him…
here
The RaiderLaker
nice to lay out options
of OL that will come later in rounds. It means that we can get good OL deeper in the draft if we wanted to. Still, Anthony Davis or Bruce Cambell are my picks in the 1st.
We need so many things....
Especially both sides of the trenches…
I’d like an OT or NT… we also need a run stopping MLB…
I like Rolondo McClain but rumor has it on PFT that he ran a 4.74 forty time… I hope Al can look past that
History is too strong (especially with Al Davis) ... we will not be taking a LB with the 1st pick
In its long and venerable history, Oakland has taken a Linebacker only twice in the 1st Round
(Napoleon Harris and Rob Fredrickson)
It is therefore imperative that we go for a DT
there are plenty in the draft.
If you want, there is a 6-5 304lb guy named Jared Odrick, who can play both 4-3 DT and 3-4 End. He can also be an outside linebacker(5.05 40. it’s pretty good but he’s supposed to be faster than that).
other than that
the DT class is deep enough that we can pick one in the later rounds.
the answer is QB
Come on. There is no team that does anything in this league without a better than average QB. Russel is a dead end. Since Gannon, where have the Raiders been?
In the toilet, that’s where.
Drafting a QB won’t improve the Raiders next year, but when was the last time any rookie turned a franchise around?
Defense wasn’t the Raiders problem the last few years – scoring points was and for that you need a good, not average or sucky QB.
My bad. Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, IUP
and to his profile: LINK
They have him projected 2-3, around 81st pick. I believe he’ll drop, simply due the the depth of the junior class, and talent in this year’s draft. I’d take him with our fourth pick, if of course we’ve filled DT, MLB, and O(L)T, with the first three. Strong lower body for his size, and a great man/press corner, that can return and be durable. Solid contributor on special teams on defense too.
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