Let me be the first to say... Derek Anderson should be a Raider`
by marshgr on Mar 9, 2010 5:55 PM PST
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Derek Anderson fits the mold for a Raider quarterback.
- Success in the past, but has fallen on hard times.
- Big arm to make Al Davis happy.
- Would come at a moderate cost.
What does everyone think? I know we also need to upgrade the WR corps; however, this would be a great addition to either push JaDumbcus or lead us to at least an 8-8 record.
Wake up Al... get us someone who at least gives us a chance.
Either resign Gradkowski or bring in D. Anderson. Let's go Raiders!
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No way
not as long as Jafatfuck is still under contract. Also I believe Anderson had a game last year where his stat line was 2-17 & an int. No thanks.
I may be one of the few ..
But I still like Jamarcus. He has unlimited potential. If someone could only get through to him and make him learn that it’s not all about him. He can have all thematerialistic b.s. he wants off the field .. But when Sunday comes around, he’s a RAIDER .. I don’t know how true it is, but I’ve heard he’s in Arizona doing some sort of camp with Raider personnel and has been shedding some pounds? I really hope this season was a wake up call. I believe that we stay with Russell and he gets another chance cause he’s Mr. Davis’ pet .. I hope we resign Gradkowski, and I hate to say this, but I hope he doesn’t get another shot because I want Russell to succeed. He just can’t show up like he doesn’t care anymore (and shouldn’t have to begin with).
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 ,, (iBleedSilverNBlack)
by RaiderCreator5150 on Mar 9, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions
The reports about JR training in Arizona
have not been substantiated to my satisfaction. I have been looking for pics of a slimmer JR, and instead I found one of him more bloated than ever, preparing to be crowned as King Elexis I. Even if he does lose weight in Arizona, it will be more of pre-prom crash diet – I doubt his motivation will be affected.
by Spirals galore on Mar 9, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
True
He needs serious help, one thing I will give him that he’s very clutch. Whenever he was in and we needed something late in the game he’d do it cause he’s never rattled. But until he weighs around 260 and can throw at the right guy he will be a backup
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Huh?
He’s Clutch? Who? You cannot be talking about JaNeverMissedAMealAndCameBackForThirds. Please tell me how he was clutch. I may have missed it this past 3 seasons.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
He actually came through against SD week 1, NYJ twice, Philly this year
Denver and KC this year as well. hes still not good but i have to give credit when credit is due
We all love the Warriors..
We all hate Cohan as an owner of this franchise…
Let's Remember
You have to be intelligent to play QB. JaDumbcus does not exactly ooze of brain power during his horrible interviews. Then you have to move to all of these “if” statements…
1. IF he loses wait… (let me stop laughing for a second)… if he loses wait what will happen. He will not make stupid throws, he will become more accurate on mid to short range passes, he will what?
2. IF he is not simply satisfied by collecting a paycheck, he will what? Lead the Raiders to the promised land? Grow a brain? Pull his big fat head out of his big fat ass?
JaDumbcus should be put on the bench and let his contract run out… or better yet… release him so I don’t have to look at his fat ass on the sideline.
Light up the Freakin Halo!
No
Im a fan of Bruce Gradkowski, and Until he proves otherwise, he deserves a chacne at starting QB
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
That's a maybe.
Anderson can be a good QB. But we have grad, and losman(unless no?).
I have been thinking about this for awhile and the perfect guy to bring in is TROY SMITH!!!
Im not joking. A 5th round tender? Cheap. Familiarity with Hue Jackson? Check. Scrambling ability AND an Al Davis arm? Check. He hasnt developed bad habits like young QBs who play too early (David Carr, Jamarcus russel) and he is still only 25 and will turn 26 in mid season. Maybe a lil short but bruce was too when he threw 3tds against the Steelers in the 4th last season. Troy Smith would be awesome because he has a little experience playing but not enough for him to be unmold-able.
Lets remember, if he hadnt had that rare form of tomsilitis a few years back, he was neck and neck for the starting job with joe flacco. Sure flacco would have got the job anayway because of him being a 1st rounder, but Troy Smith can play.
And JP Losman sucks too.
Anderson
You know, it’s debatable if he’s even better than Russell right now. That alone says that he shouldn’t even be considered.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions
But at least hes has shown that if you give him time and weapons he can make plays
Nobody can fluke a 29 TD pass season. Sure he has dropped off a bit, but he can at least make good reads week to week. Unlike russell, who were really not 100% if he can read a book, let alone an NFL defense.
Maybe
The old saying goes that doing it once is an accident so it could have been a fluke.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 9, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
having to be benched and sit behind quinn might be the fire this guy needs to bounce back
he knows once quinn was drafted he was no longer the future and may very well thrive in a new role for another team.
Is Derek Anderson the answer?
probably not but unlike anyone else on the roster he does have a big season under his belt.
Gradkowski is coming off major injury and he’s never been a long term starter before so why not bring someone in to compete with him? If he wins the job then Anderson could be the back up or he’s cut.
This team isn’t good enough at any position to turn down talent from anywhere.
Talent
This team isn’t good enough at any position to turn down talent from anywhere.
Well, Anderson isn’t talent at all if you ask me. It’s like JaMarcus Russell without the expectations we initially had for him. The guy completed 44.5 percent of his passes with a 42.1 quarterback rating.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 9, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
You weren't.
Check the fan shots. You were late by about 4 hours. You weren’t the first to say, therefore, I will not read your fan post.
I don't see him as much of an upgrade
Maybe worth a shot to compete for a spot though given the right price. I don’t think Al is good at determining what the right price is.
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im so hungry i could eat some uh yo cookin BLECHK!!!!!BLECHK!!!!!BLECHK!!!!!!
I even cum Black & Silver...
by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Mar 9, 2010 11:02 PM PST reply actions
trade frye to clevand for a pick
oick up anderson and let grad be the qb. frye worked with holgrem , so get something for him and take anderson.
by sports with steve on Mar 10, 2010 1:11 AM PST reply actions
Frye
He’s not worth any pick in the draft except for maybe a seventh-round selection.
The Browns already traded for one backup in Seneca Wallace. They won’t trade for another.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 10, 2010 6:39 AM PST up reply actions
I'd prefer Gradkowski
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
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You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
JR in his earlier years
I found a reference to this video in a recent SF Chronicle article, discussing a rumor about JR (that he is in Arizona, but at a clinic for lethargy addiction). JR certainly moves better there.
you can be addicted to lethargy?
Isn’t that a medical condition?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
it was a joke
that got legs as real news. But lethargy could be also a sign of depression. Barrett Robbins had it bad during his non-manic stage.
by Spirals galore on Mar 10, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
That flick pass would have been picked-off in the NFL (or the Pac-10) - in fact, with those those lazy-susan rotations King
Alexis would’ve been sacked outside his college division.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 10, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
I say
Invite Anderson out for training camp, nothing to lose. Keep Grad and sign him for 3 years. Sign Frye to a 2-3 year contract and that will be minimal for sure. Maybe ANderson has something in the tank but lets see what we he can do in training camp. If he cant perform cut him its no loss if we do he wont get a guaranteed contract or we keep him on the practice squad. Every year there are surprises I have money on Grad keeping us going this year. Russell will be picking splinters from his ass after the first 2 games if he gets the nod to start. Then that will be that he will drift into the night like Buster Douglas and go into a diabetic coma after gaining another 100-150lbs.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 7:51 AM PST reply actions
You beat me to it.
I attempted my first post yesterday, but got sidetracked. I watched Anderson at OSU knew he was good then. i wasn’t at all surprised when he exploded onto the scene. I think he could definitely compete for a roster spot and would be a nice addition to the QB depth chart.
I have no faith in JRussel.
1. Poor footwork, watching your QB tackle himself while throwing a 5 yard pass is just embarrassing.
2. He dogs his own players. It wasnt that Grad was playing better, the receivers were jut making him look better. Granted some of his passes were in the WR’s hands, he was off the mark consistently.
3. No work ethic. Enough said.
4. Refusal to take a pay cut. Why get paid like Peyton Manning when you play worse than Ryan Leaf? Russel is selfish and only cares for himself. His contract is outrageous and with a team with holes like the Raiders, they need to free up salary to e upgrade the roster. Russel could have helped that out. If he is so confident he will be good, he could have taken a paycut now, and raked in the cash in FA. If you ask me, he knows he wont be around the league long. He isnt good enough.
5. Bad mechanics. People dont mention this about him often enough. I will say it. When he lost the fumble against Baltimore, he was holding the ball at his waist while surveying the field. How can he throw it from there?
6. He can’t read routes. They cant even use a real playbook with him. If the game is in his hands we are all but screwed.
7. I just dont like him. As a fan of the Raiders who buys their merchandise and supports them, i think I should be allowed to have an opinion.
+1
You pretty much covered all the bases and did a thorough job.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 10, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
I think Anderson was a great QB however...
He was on a worthless Team! xD The brown fans actually think a great QB from college is going save the team lol. What they don’t know is it takes “Team Effort!” to win football games. Look at it this way: you can put tom brady in there and Cleveland would still suck. WHY?! cause without weapons or support the guy throwing the ball will only be as good as his team for realz tho :P. Now does he belong with the raiders hmmm I guess anything is better then russell, Why don’t we give him a shot.
"Commitment to Delusion" - This is what raider nation has become! lol
Come on People Anderson. I would rather keep what we have. The Browns,Rams, and maybe the Bills are the only teams that have a worse qb problem than us.
Other teams
Tampa Bay
Detroit (Yeah, Staffords yet to prove shit)
Kansas City (Cassels overrated)
San Fransisco
Carolina
Arizona
Seattle (Hasselbecks done)
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
Cassel is good
I don’t know how KC projects him, but he is good. He has great potential in him, and he works and strives to reach it.
JOSH FREEMAN IS BETTER THAN ANY QB ON THE TEAM TRY TO TRADE BRUCE FOR HIM AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
YOU SAYING BRUCE AND RUSSELL ARE BETTER NO WAY STAFFORD 13TB 20 INTS ROOKIE. BRUCE 4 YEARS 15 TDS 16 INTS. SO IN ONE YEAR ON A BAD TEAM HE HAS ALREADY CAUGHT BRUCE. (SO BRUCE PLAYS 3 GAMES AND HE IS PROVEN, BUT NO ONE ELSE IS)
CASSEL OVERRATED YOU CALLED BRUCE BALD JESUS (REMIX) CASSEL PLAYED ON A WORSE TEAM THAN WE HAD AND STILL OUT HAD MORE YARDS THAN RUSSELL AND BRUCE TOGETER.
ALEX SMITH MADE A BIG IMPROVEMENT BASED ON THIS YEAR HE SHOWN HE HAS STEPPED IT UP. PLUS HE HAS A RUN GAME AND A DEFENSE SO HE CAN PLAY IT SAFE. AND WIN. BOTTOM LINE HE IS BETTER THAN ANY QB ON OUR TEAM.
I WILL TAKE MATT MOORE HE COMP OVER 60% OF HIS PASSES 8 TDS 2INTS JUST ONE WR DID YOU SEE THE PANTERS LAST 5 GAMES THEY WERE ON FIRE.
MATT LEINART MIGHT BE OUR ONLY GUY BUT HE HAS A COACHING STAFF SO I WILL PICK HIM.
A HURT HASSELBECK IS BETTER THAN A HEALTH BRUCE THIS WAS A DOWN YEAR 3000’S YARDS HE WAS HURT AND PLAYED IN 14 GAMES.
you are an(excuse me I don't usually say this)
idiot if you think bruce has not improved. I don’t know about you, but you evaluate talent based on looking at the player’s skills and intangibles, NEVER stats.
Gradkowski, as we all know, has improved his skills from the previous year. He was reading targets easier, throwing accurately, shows poise in the pocket, making the scramble when needed and can throw well on the run if needed, he has the leadership(which does need A BIT more improving, but he’s almost there) and he has the desire to win.
Cassel has basically the same skill set, but I think he has a stronger arm than Grads, and he has better awareness.
I havent really evaluated Alex Smith yet, so I don’t know much about him, and Josh Freeman looks good. He is accurate, and poised in the pocket. He needs to improve his awareness, then he can be great(and throwing power may be needed, but not much).
Stafford has freakin’ Calvin Johnson. But other than that, he just needs to improve his awareness, and he needs to work on timing his throws. He needs to SLIGHTLY improve his accuracy as well, and needs to improve his pocket presence.
All Caps?
Really? Just because no one listens to you already doesnt mean you have to write in All Caps
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
+1
I just cant take that clown seriously I dont even respond to him or the other Kool-Aid drinker that wants to hold JaLoadAss’s jock.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Mar 11, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
"You gotta make plays" - Art Shell back in 06 lol
Stats don’t mean nothing if you can’t win games. It’s all about Character, over coming pressure, and showing the team that your a leader on and off the field. Last time I checked micheal, Bruce gradkowski was winning games and bringing back the Raider Mystique. That’s something I haven’t seen bench warmer Matt Leinart, Haselbeck , or that chump from Detroit what’s his name again?!….. Oooh yea “Stafford” do all year for their teams ROFL!
Some boards had Bradford projected ahead of Stafford last year if he'd have come out for the draft with him then
Stafford will be good; Detroit is steadily improving with a real GM in place since Millen was usurped, a day late and a dollar short. It’ll take them some time to recover, but they are getting good, slowly but surely, and will show signs of life with a solid draft, and some already great FA signings.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Dump Jbust and get Tebow in the third
and keep running with Grads until he’s(Tebow) ready. The guys a winner
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
I actually can kinda agree
You know idk how well Tebow will play in the NFL but if we can get him in the 3rd round id be happy with that… he will practice and practice and practice till he gets it right.. plus he won the heisman twice… Al would love him i bet…
Im down
Tebow needs grooming and time could help that. His Wonderlic score didnt really help his draft stock either. Maybe a 4th Rounder
If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?
- Vince Lombardi
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4984943
Not far from JR’s.
by Spirals galore on Mar 11, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
rofl tebow is a real winner?
WTF Happened to him in that Alabama game then…. Last time I checked the tide rolled on his azz lol plus we don’t need any crybaby punks on this team
Gradkowski
deserves to get a starting shot with Oakland. He has expressed interest in it, he is working hard for it, he has proven he can do it well. He is our man. Anderson will end up with Carolina, most likely.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Carolina has Matt Moore, Anderson would be a backup there
And I love Bruce! but, we still should bring in some talent at the QB spot to provide solid competition. I like either Troy Smith or Dan LeFeavour
In Bruce We Trust
I like LeFefeavor.
just because his name is awesome. lol.
I haven’t really evaluated QBs recently, so I can’t tell which is the better choice at the moment.
Ironic
Having to former OSU QB’s on the same team……
he did
i guess i should have specified that comment. if anderson goes to carolina and plays back up to matt moore that would happen. they are both former beavers from oregon state. Being from oregon myself, i like to follow the careers of players from my state.
No more mediocrity, make no mistake Derek Anderson is bland, he can never significantly help us
LeFevour will be great someday – he’s the best QB in this draft and if we go for any QB it should be Danny. At any rate, Bruce is going to have a great season and with the improved play calling (Jackson can’t be worse than Cable) the focus should be on pass protection – OTs, Gs, Cs, FBs.
Correction
The focus should be on a Guard, a RT, a FB, a LB, DT and a CB. Not in that order though.
In Bruce We Trust
the order should be...............
1. dt, 2. lb, 3, o t .4, o-lin, 5.cb, 6.rb and that would be fine with me.
by sports with steve on Mar 12, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions
DTs CBs and LBs are on Offense
The emphasis on O is not backs (w/ perhaps the exception of FB) it’s the o-line
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
agreed. he would be a good fit, kinda like plunkett mold. also cut there loses with heyward-bey. they have good enough wr’s. believe you me. with murphy as a very bright star on the rise.
No question about Murphy or Schilens. But Bey will get another year unless Al gets an unrealistic offer - ain't happening
so DHB breaks out this season or we part ways with him. Other good targets JLHiggins and and the TEs and DMC too all indicate we’re fine with receivers – they are not a concern and I don’t want any through FA or the draft.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Mar 14, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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