While the Haters Hate: The Raiders Continue to Wait
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 1, 2010 4:36 PM PDT
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PrintThere is absolutely NO news from the team about "Fabulous" McNabbulous joining Terrible Owens to create the most riveting daytime drama since Amway, Bo and Luke ruled the Soap World. So, for now, I can only believe that Al Davis, behind the curtain, is doing what he can to get McNabb, while TMZ is being used to let Al know that Donovan has ZERO interest in coming to Oakland.
Wednesday we learned Donovan McNabb has no interest in playing for the Oakland Raiders, according to the fine reporting of TMZ.
"A source close to McNabb tells TMZ, 'He does NOT want to play for the Raiders and would refuse the trade'," according to the report.
TMZ leads the way in breaking the news? Man, what has this World come to? I bet it was one of McNabb's "Hostesses" who leaked the story, I mean, what credible sources can they have? I digress...
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I HATE THE HATER....
you know your right, nothing is nothing, and recently we’ve only had good news as far as cuts n no brainer JR news, also see TMZ for new pics of him rolling dice in vegas… he should be removed…u know what i mean… also i think were gonna end up with Taylor Mays, its the most “realistic” prediction ive heard, or thought so far, seriously…
I even cum Black & Silver...
by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Apr 1, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
Nothing would make happier than having D McNabbsty come to Oakland.. If only for the simple fact that it would push Jamarcus that much deeper onto the bench..
by LOLJamarcusforprezLOL on Apr 1, 2010 5:29 PM PDT reply actions
i hate TMz
i don’t believe anything they say especially in regards to football, i would suggest they would have found that the Raiders/McNabb stories were getting a certain amount of hits and just put some made up crap out there.
TMz is nothing but viral bullshit.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
Yeah, cuz the Raiders will make you demonstrate the ability to actually cover a guy in the NFL at CB
something he apparently wasn’t able to do. Not without the guy catching the ball for a huge gain and a score, that is.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
He got paid $8 million for 8 games to get burned & start a fight with his ex-teammates.
Whether McNabb wants to come here or not, I would take any advice from this overpaid skid mark with a grain of salt.
McNabb ultimately is just a piece of meat
Refuse the trade, go ahead and retire, I don’t care. I believe in Bruce…We don:t need McNabb…although it would be nice.
TMZ is garbage news anyways
Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!
Herm Edwards on ESPN said that San Fran should trade their 2nd for him
Then give onf of their two 1st for Brandon Marshall. Now that would suck
In Bruce We Trust
All I can say is COME ON
I am sure he isn’t jumping off the table to come to Oakland I wouldn’t either I am a Raiders fan. The problem starts from the top and goes down. Think about who on our coaching staff can teach McNabb. I know everyone wants Bruce to make it but don’t you think we to see him play a whole season first. Bottom line with McNabb I think we can win 8 games, but I am not sure bruce work and russell talent we could win 8 games.
Well buddy, Bruce wants to be here. Hes said it before.
Donovoan McNabb doesnt, hes also said it before. And as for Russell, Well Im not even sure he wants to play football.
In Bruce We Trust
I feel like a broken record here
but a trade for Jason Campbell would be outstanding. He is a hell of a player who showed real moxie behind the worst O-line in the entire world at Washington. Shanahan is gonna dump him. I think he would actually want to play in Oakland.
Pee on diva McCrabb, he is at the end of his career. Get somebody who has playing experience and still has a good 6 years left in him.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
no on mcnabb. bruce really wants to be oakland’s qb and is proving it with hard work. give the man a shoot. don’t bring in someone else with a big contract only to bitch, moan, complain and suck. (walker, hall)
4 life brother.
agreed
lets not give up on Bruce. I think he has something to prove to himself, and that makes him driven. But if he were to get injured(Spirits forgive me if thats bad mojo saying that), there needs to be someone reliable to take up the game. JaShitbox aint it, and Frye aint either.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
he's earned the shot. it's now his to lose
How’s about we get him some blocking now, K?
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
and a reliable backup, absolutely
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
tmz says mcnabb doesnt want to be here!
hey tmz, the raiders already have a #5 and his name is bruce! print that tmz!
by sports with steve on Apr 1, 2010 10:49 PM PDT reply actions
tmz says mcnabb doesnt want to be here!
Who needs him? He’s a cry baby anyway. We’d be better off with Vick or Campbell! OR……Bruce!
by Aliferforsure on Apr 5, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Fellas you have always got to take media reports of any kind with a grain of salt..Until you hear the player speak himself it means absolutely nothing...
If Al signs McNabb it will help our team, if he doesn’t we will move forward. The good thing is the Raiders are working out QB’s and more than likely we will draft one in the later rounds. Al is not crazy and J-Russ has not fared well, believe me Al knows that, he is a stats man…And J-Russ has NO stats…Lets not put too much into this, really, I don’t think a trade will happen, and if it does well it would be great for the Raiders…If you don’t like McNabb as a player, well you really don’t know anything about football. However, McNabb will need just a little help, Tory Holt maybe, but we need a Vet to help our track team understand how to play the position. And no matter how much B-Grad wants to be the guy, sorry, he is a good backup at best. He is the best we have so he starts, but this aint his first ride..Injury prone, and inconsistent play…Again he is the best we seem to have for now and until that changes he is our guy, we have to play with the hand dealt to us. So forget the media reports and let things unfold and Al has a way to sign guys he really wants to play for the Raiders..
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 6:40 AM PDT reply actions
Well said, Mr. Sacramento
I believe Grad might have enough fire in him to lead this team into the playoffs, provided we upgrade the trenches adequately.
True, he’s been inconsistent and injury prone thus far, but he also did some amazing things for us, and lifted the team’s play better than any other guy since Rich Gannon, so I’m willing to ride out the qb thing. I would like Dan Lefevour as a developmental guy, but would prefer Russell was out of the locker room before we committed to bringing yet another guy into the volatile environment that Russell’s presence creates for qbs. I believe Garcia would’ve never left had it not been for the same bs.
Right on about the media speculation, and how you can pay no attention unless you hear it from the horse’s mouth, and even then you have to take that with a grain of salt.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Why try to get a washed up QB?
McNabb has offered all he can to this league and won’t be here for too long. We need a young QB to develop with the team. How about Colt McCoy, I personally see a little Peyton Manning in him.
by r8rfan510 on Apr 2, 2010 6:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/02/tales-from-the-mcnabb-front/
Mike Tanier’s latest Walkthrough at Football Outsiders:
Dearest Adeline,
I apologize for the long delay between correspondences. Rest assured that my affection for you remains as fervent as ever. But conditions here are grim, and I endeavored to shield you from the direst of my miseries. It is Day 44 of the siege at Fort McNabb, and though our commanding editors expect some resolution to the conflict soon, those of us pinned in the redoubts have grown desperate.
We arrived well-provisioned and confident that McNabb would fall soon, or that at least the battlements at Kolb or Vick might be annexed swiftly in the effort to bulwark McNabb. We were ill-prepared for this grinding siege. We lacked the news rations to survive the first weeks, so we began to subsist on spin and rumor. Soon, those stores ran out, and men began to behave as animals. Bloggers accustomed to thrice-daily postings faced starvation; I saw two fellows, one from Rotoworld and the other from Rotowire, pummel each other nearly to death over the chance to post a meatless rumor about a Niners trade. Men’s eyes grow sunken, their skin ashen, their websites barren.
This is almost as bad as my summer in Hattiesburg. My fair Adeline, I do not know how much more I can endure.
Dearest Adeline,
Every day, our numbers diminish, with some men deserting and others succumbing to starvation. What passes for nourishment would sicken even the heartiest soul. One brave lad found the husk of an old McNabb-to-Bills rumor, mixed it with some worm-ridden Terrell Owens jokes that have been stale for years, and boiled them into a watery blog. Others choke down articles about women’s basketball or NASCAR. I even saw a man resort to hockey. Surely he will welcome death’s tender caress.
hilarious!
I feel the pain!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
McNabb and Hall
Are you really suprised at Hall’s comments? Alot of ex-Raiders, especially in the last 5-6 years have echoed the same thing. Fact is it has been VERY dysfunctional around Raiderland during this time. I do love the way Bruce played last year, but I def don’t think he’s the answer. Not sure McNabb is either, but it is a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from what we have already. I definately hope we can get him, but I don’t think we will. I think it would have happened already if we were. Oh well….Raiders in 2010!!!
Sorry, what could turn out to be another monumentally expensive one year rental
that many will consider an “upgrade,” is not worth the risk. Grad may not be the second coming, but he’s earned the right to a shot, and it’ll be his to lose in camp. While you can attack his skill set for many things, he’s demonstrated the one thing our qb’s have lacked for six seasons: leadership, and the ability to elevate the performance of his teammates.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Bruce,for sure.
Bruce deserves a shot at being the starter this season. The guy reminds me of Jeff Garcia with the work ethic he has. Speaking of which, I’d rather see Garcia here than McNabb. I think he’s got more in the tank than Donovan and he didn’t come to camp last year expecting to be a back up,he planned on starting. JA3andout MUST go. Everytime I hear that assholes name I think of that “bling video” of him at the basketball game, he’s all about himself and deflects his faults off on his teamates. I don’t like any of the College QBs coming out this year at all, none of them have what I’d call “strong arms” and I don’t think any of them are going to convert to a true pro style offense easily.The last time McNabb played in Oakland we handed him his ass.
Wyoraider, in many respects I understand where you are coming from, acquiring McNabb will not hurt the Raiders. In terms of B-Grad deserving to start...
it’s not about that, it is who gives us the best chance to win, period..I don’t believe the Raiders will get McNabb and if that’s the case then we need to have a open competition to see who gets the start..I do like B-Grads competitive spirit, he is willing to earn the job, remember he only had a few good games before getting hurt, “injury prone”..The so called top QB’s in the draft I must agree, outside of the top two, none are worthy of a high draft choice, but under the radar there are a few really good QB’s out there now, QB John Skelton, Fordham, good size strong arm, accurate, QB Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State, poise, reads defenses well, leader in the huddle, WB Sean Canfield, Oregon State, accurate deep ball, intelligent, understands defenses, QB Ryan Perrilloux, Jacksonville State. great athlete, but does have off the field issues, strong arm, QB Tim Hiller, Western Michigan, leader, great arm, good size, QB Rusty Smith, Florida Atlantic, strong arm, played well against BCS competition, good size, all are late round picks with the exception of maybe two of the guys above. Tom Brady 6th round pick, so there is talent in later rounds, and QB should be considered. The Raiders are working out many of these guys and hopefully one will be drafted. McNabb will probably NOT be a Raider so with that said, we do need to look to the draft for the future and he doesn’t have to come in the first 4 rounds….
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 9:07 AM PDT reply actions
Young QB
I don’t think that I can deal with another rookie QB, however, I’m all in favor of drafting the best player available round 4 and down including a QB for 2 to 3 years of development. Just not as a starter. Sanchez absolutely impressed me at the beginning of the year yet still faded with tons of mistakes at the end. Once coaches get a good look at you on film, you better be able to adjust. Sanchez, Strafford, Freeman all did reasonably well but couldn’t carry by themselves. Goes back to your running game and strong D for field positioning when you have rookie QBs. Hoping that we draft impact linemen on both side of the ball. If McNabb comes regardless of what TMZ says, he’ll give it a go and play, no doubt. If he decides to come and not retire, he’ll bring it. That’s the only way he knows.
raider nation
ummm i say fuck mc nabb hes a fish aint worth a shit man…..jason cambell wouldnt be too bad but then again rich gannon has been working out wit russel maybe he can teach this kid something
rich gannon working out with Russell?? Where did you get that?
Provide link, please.
by Spirals galore on Apr 2, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Please wait………………………………………………………………………………………..
by Aliferforsure on Apr 5, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Wishful thinking! Al I remember is that he offered and then response was………………………………..Please wait…………………………………..CLICK, dial tone!
by Aliferforsure on Apr 5, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Do you miss Cornell Green so much already?
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 2, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders4life I understand how you feel about rook QB's, however, if the right player is available in the last 3 rounds at QB
I say we take him…And no doubt I would want him to sit until he was ready to come out and play, as it stands, if J-Russ just flops we have nothing for the future…And B-Grad, and Frye are NOT the answers at that position for the future. A young QB to develop is what we should look for in the late rounds if there is one worth the pick, there will be F/A QB’s available also coming out of school that we should consider as well. Remember, rookie QB’s for the most part get their butts kicked, Manning, Elway, Aikman, it is just how it is…when a youngster comes in as a rook it is trial by fire, the problem with J-Russ is that lack of progress, its as if he doesn’t understand what is happening on the field and a QB must have a high football IQ to be successful. It is a necessary evil and QB should be on the Raiders board after the 4th round.
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
In Bruce we trust
[But if Skelton or LeFevour are there in the 4th AND if we did really well with the first 3 selections then, perhaps, take one of them to groom – I like those two better than either Tiebow or Clausen.]
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 2, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
There are a few QB's that may go undrafted and we should be on the phone with a couple of them
One that comes to mind is QB Matt Nichols, Eastern Washington, Tony Romo’s alma mater, great numbers, from a pro system that developed one the of leagues best QB’s, and this kid will probably go undrafted. QB Levi Brown, Troy, good size, good stats but a non conventional offense, QB Joe Webb, UAB, good player, strong arm, smart, however, will probably not get drafted, I think we need to keep QB on the board one way or the other, however, we should be looking to the future, not an immediate cure unless he just burns them up in camp and during the preseason.
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
rookie qb
like I said, I’m ok drafting to develop (that means 3 years in my book) a late round quality QB. I just feel that drafting QBs to put on the field now is something that just wouldn’t work. Jason Campbell makes a lot of sense for a 2nd round pick or even trading our #8 down for a late round #1 and a quality OL and then, trading that late #1 for Campbell. With a decent QB and OL, we can make a playoff run this year. Let’s all assume that JR is out, Bruce is ok but he’s not a top half of the league QB who can consistently march it down to win games.
by raiders4liffe on Apr 4, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Rusty23 indeed he did, I stand corrected, I don't know how I slipped that, his star WR there was Willie Bumphus Jr, his dad and I are close friends here in Indy.
With that said the kid from Eastern Washington can play and probably won’t be drafted, he is worth a free agent look…
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
I'd love a later round or undrafted steal at the position
and believe that’s how we should go when we do address it, but not until Jamarcus is out of the locker room.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Flozell Adams has been cut by the Dallas Cowboys, Al, here is a vet that can show the youngsters how to do it...
Sign him Al, sign him!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 2, 2010 9:24 PM PDT reply actions
I'm not sure anybody did...
but I do now! lol
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Yes, he shouldn't hear about his trade second-hand. I'm against trading the best CB who ever played the game unless
we get Suh for him b/c Suh’s contribution will be proportionately more effective than Aso’s for victory. It’s 100% about getting to, and winning, the SB – the rest is foreplay.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 3, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, I wouldnt mind if we went 12-4 yet lossed in the AFC Championship game.
Mostly because of our 7 years of pain. But a ring would be nice, and when Oakland returns to the top, we can shut up Charger fans for a loooooong time.
In Bruce We Trust
How many rings
do the Chargers have? They need to shut up anyway, the Raiders are one of the most successful programs in the league. People seem to have forgotten that.
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by spec on Apr 4, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
mcnabb traded to the skins!
thank you al for not pulling the trigger on this trade and good luck skins and eagles.mcnabb was just traded to the skins for the 2nd round pick #37 of the eagles and a 3rd 0r 4th also. this is no aprils fools joke, sourcesare espn and the eagles.
by sports with steve on Apr 4, 2010 6:25 PM PDT reply actions
Raiders would be better off
getting the guy McNabb is replacing in DC.
Upon moving to AL, I let my wife decide who she would root for. After one day at a new job full of Bama fans, she met me at the door with a hearty cry of "WAR EAGLE"
by SandMountainTiger on Apr 5, 2010 1:50 AM PDT reply actions
I'd love to sign Jason Campbell
He might actually blossom in Oakland. If we got the blockers, of course.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
McNabb plays for the Redskins now....So end of that conversation..I think we should acquire
Flozell Adams maybe a 2 year contract…And I am still for a developmental QB in the later rounds or Free agency..It is a fact, the trade is complete!!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Apr 5, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions
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