Open Thread: Round 3 of the 2010 NFL Draft
by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:30 PM PDT
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PrintWith the second round over, we now turn our attention to the third round of the 2010 NFL Draft. It is the second and final round on the second day of draft coverage.
Our Oakland Raiders traded down twice in the second round to acquire Lamarr Houston with the 44th overall pick, a defensive lineman from the University of Texas. We picked up a fifth-round pick from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and a sixth-round pick from the New England Patriots.
In the third round, the Raiders are picking fifth which is 69th overall.
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No, the offensive line is more important at this point.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions
this
I don't want another player or pick in return, all I want is.... a SHRUBBERY!
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Unpredictable -n- Nice
So far I’m liking what I see and here’s to hoping it continues…Looks like the old vintage Al again…Or could the Cable guy n Hue have some good input here…Not to mention the “DC”…
What is wrong with Veldheer?
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions
I think I do too. At this spot he is a great value pick.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
according to many
he’s better fit for a west coast style.
I do like him, but I’m very skepticle. I think OL is more of a safer pick.
At this point in the game, We shouldn’t worry too much about our system. Just the system that a compitent QB can run. I love Bruce, but he will not last forever and may falter. I love McCoy as a back up plan. Perfect time to select him. So what if he doesn’t work out. Its a third round pick. We cut a third rounder a couple years ago.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
we have plenty of holes. As long as we get a good player I think I’ll be happy. I will be happly with OL.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Murphy would have been good with Aso
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I don’t think trading both of them is smart.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll go with Perrish Cox
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You have to think it’ll be an offensive lineman.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
dammit all the corners are going off the board
hello campbell
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he is
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
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ima miss him
if he goes, and howard
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zzzZZZzzZZzZzzzOMG!!
I had to get on with yall! It appears Campbell is still gonna be on the board in 2 picks! WTF! This could be a dread “need filling” DRAFT! WHHHAHAHAAAA
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Arena football is back????
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Apparently.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!
KC better not take Campbell 1 pick b4 us!
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GODDAMIT KC
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I think we have to take Campbell here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
McCoy or Campbell
Because why the hell not
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i like asamoah
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
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Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
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McCoy
I think Colt has that intangable that you need to be an NFL QB. He is the exact opposite of JRUSS. He is a leader and a prototypical QB. He has confidence and doesn’t mind getting loud. Good head on his shoulders. We don’t need a Peyton Manning we just need a guy that can manage an offense. With the D we might be able to build and the backs we already have thats all we need… a smart QB.
Now that is a big tackle
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
holy shit!
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
I’d rather have Campbell, but I’m okay with this.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
OH WTF WE JUST HAD TO WAKE AL UP FROM HIS NAP
HE WAS ASLPEEP AND CABLE WOKE HIM UP AND HE DID THIS PICK !
Ok really, we had to f up eventually. We just got out DT
How big is this kid again I missed it?
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holy shit
3-4 NT
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oops i read wrong
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6 foot 8
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
shows how much the mockers know hahahaha
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
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some had rhis guy as high 2nd round
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
The Ravens just picked Ed Dickson from Oregon at number 70.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:49 PM PDT reply actions
Draft Countdown has him as the 9th rated OT.
And the second best still available, after Campbell.
The selfish, they're all standing in line, faithing and hoping to buy themselves time.
Me, I figure as each breath goes by, I only own my mind.
how much does he weigh?
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Or a tackle
Kirk isn’t worth Mccoy, I’d much rather keep Kirk
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OMG bruh I go to O'dowd right now!
What year did you graduate?
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I was a junior when Kirk was a senior. He was our RB and MLB. I wasnt very good or anything, but I still loved being on the same team as the guy
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Yeah I was looking at the weight room records the other day and saw Toller but Kirk
I heard he was just pretty good. he must’ve been a cool guy from what i’ve heard
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but not*
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Burl Toler was in my class....
and both were great to me when I was there. Of course they were both in another leage compared to most of us on the team.
I heard Coach P got canned? I never liked that guy!
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Yup the new HC is awsome
Hardy Nickerson… Yes the one who played pro with Tampa and coached the Bears linebackers. He’s great, his kid plays as well and he will be playing D1 soon and prolly pro. he’s a monster
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Thats awesome!
I think I will come to a few games this season now that Im back living in the bay. I heard they got lights too. Ive been gone for a long time in SoCal so i look foreward to a few Dragons football games.
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Hardy Nickerson rox!
We went to the same high school (Verbum Dei HS in south central LA, well actually Watts but not everyone knows where that is) tho he was there a few years b4 me. He was Pro Bowler several times for the Bucs & a standout at Cal. He is a great person & knows his football. Props to you guys @Bishop O’Dowd for landing him. You won’t regret it.
We have a saying at Verb that epitomizes the type of men it produces: THE STRONG SHALL SURVIVE! Hardy Nickerson is a clear example of that. Now, I’m gonna have to let the fellas know about this cuz noone’s mentioned it. Looks like I found a NoCal school to cheer for.
or a guard or center or corner
> mccoy
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raiders got a lot of LB's now
someone has to go
by GsWar510riors on Apr 23, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
6'8", 312 lb
5.09 40 time
The selfish, they're all standing in line, faithing and hoping to buy themselves time.
Me, I figure as each breath goes by, I only own my mind.
do not mess with the Veldheer
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OT/Jared-Veldheer.php
Strengths:
Outstanding Height-Large frame with room to bulk up-Excellent athleticism-Nimble feet-Able to slide laterally and mirror-Superb Balance-Quick and Agile-Excels in pass protection and can handle speed off the edge-Understands positioning and angles-Shows the ability to sustain blocks-Above average strength-Terrific mobility and range-Smart with superb awareness-Competitive and always gives max effort-Hard Worker-Durable-Big Upside.
Weaknesses:
Will be making a huge leap in competition-Short Arms-Has some issues when it comes to leverage-Isn’t a natural knee bender-Not real powerful-Doesn’t get a dominant push in the run game-Must improve hand use and show more violence-Trouble hitting targets in space-Needs to be a lot more aggressive-May lack a killer instinct.
Notes:
Was a four-year starter ( all 46 games ) for the Chargers-Named a 1st Team All-American in 2009-Earned 1st Team All-GLIAC honors in 2008 and 2009-Was elected a captain by his teammates-Brother, Aaron, played basketball at Hillsdale-Redshirted in 2005-Blocked for a 1,000-yard rusher each season of his career-Really stood out at the Texas vs. The Nation all-star game-Could also project to guard at the next level-One of the premier small school prospect in this class-Still a bit raw and will require some development but is an intriguing prospect with the physical tools to play left tackle in the NFL.
The selfish, they're all standing in line, faithing and hoping to buy themselves time.
Me, I figure as each breath goes by, I only own my mind.
Short arms?!?! Dude is 6'8
He kind of sounds like Gallery to me.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Lovin Veldheer
And don’t forget that Tom Cable was a longtime O-Line coach so he’s in great hands in terms of being developed.
Better than Campbell, I guess.
I still really really want Dan LeFeavour or Colt McCoy
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I suddenly feel like re-upping my season tickets
I’m loving this draft
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Thats what I say every year.....
Im not gonna fall for it this year. Im gonna buy single game tix, and if they start to tank again, Im not stuck with a pocket full of losses.
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Raiders
are impressing me right now with there picks. Drafting real footballers and drafting positions we need to upgrade wooohoooo
by lemmetakeutodamovies on Apr 23, 2010 5:54 PM PDT reply actions
i laugh every time i see the broncos getting tebow
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Ther SB nation page is trying so hard to spin it in a positive direction
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I’m sorry, but I think Buffalo just sucks at drafting.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions
didnt they pick john mccargo really early too? HAHA
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Yeah, that was a bad reach. They took Donte Whitner that year and he isn’t even starting anymore.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
NFL Network says he has long arms, yet ESPN says he has short arms lol FAIL!
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yeah wtf
Yahoo says he has short arms. I demand a measurement!
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Next pick should be the best corner available
Or best right guard/center
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espn said
veldheer was the best tackle to take with the raiders pick
so i guess it was a pretty good pick
I drafted a QB and I...
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What are the odds Al gets involved the rewst of the way.....
with DB speed picks. Id say 80%
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Why did the Jaguars take another defensive tackle?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
Im down, but Al isnt..He traded down and grabbed those picks for a reason..Maybe
he’s looking at guys in those rounds
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It looks like Damian Williams went 77th to Tennessee.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions
Im gonna give Cable the benefit of the doubt with Veldheer....
and Im real happy with the way the Raiders have addressed needs through he firs three rounds. I would like to see more OL depth picks (trade up for Campbell?) and after that, just take the best available, or best upside available the rest of the way.
Im very satisfied with the draft though, way more than in previous years.
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cambell is way more of a project than veldheer
veldheer has played twice as many games in college than cambell
by raiderfan4life on Apr 23, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope ur right.....
I would still like um both if possible. and its a huge jump in skill level for a d2 guy like Veldheer. But hey, Cable is a O-line guy so Ill give him the bennifit of the doubt that Veldheer will be good.
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It’s early for us in California, not you!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch, Lamarr Houston at draft
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1431781318517
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No, they should pick a cornerback.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotta look at the value. There's no CB whos as good as Colt in this round
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I would hate that. I could see 3 years from now a QB I wanted and THE WR I wanted as the battery in SF. That would suck.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless they both wind up sucking (doubtfull) and the Niners are bad forever… then that would be ok.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not a Bay native but enjoy the Niner rivalry. I dislike most Niner fans moreso than the team itself. They have turned it around and Singletary is a great guy for the job.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, here come the Chargers.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions
Butler it is
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Damn I would love to see the Raiders jump in here for......
Everson Griffen or Campbell at some point.
I know, Im proly dreaming
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Well, we have 1......
Seymor and hes on a franchise tag. So theres no telling what the future holds. Everson is a 2nd rnd talent still on the board. Great value there.
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The rest of the guys we have are incomplete DEs.....
Good against the run but not the pass, and visa versa.
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Houston's File
http://www.texassports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/houston_lamarr00.html
2 yrs @ “DE” n 2 yrs @ “DT”…Has versatility…
I remember a QB that won a ton of games that sucked in the NFL......
Dorsey from the U. I think McCoy will be better, but I understand why, as a spread guy, he has slipped this far.
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Billick says McCoy can be a serviceable backup QB
That’s someone you take later than this (assuming his prognosis is correct).
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I dont get it, Denver takes Tebow yet 32 teams have passed on him almost 3 times? Thats silly
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I’m sure McCoy is at the VERY least a top end back-up in this league. His upside is top 10ish (IMO). Risk-reward factor+need= we should make a move to get this guy.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought this tootill I did more reading.....
hes a West Coast Guy dink and dunker IMO cause of lack of arm strength. And hes a bit short. Al IMO would not take this guy if his life depended on it. That being said I would not be mad if we somehow did.
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you may be right. At this point in the game I just want us to take good prospects or the best available athlete. It’s not like a 3rd round pick is going to make or break us this comming up season. I’m happy enough with what we did for our D that I will probably be happy with anyone reasonable.
So much hope on draft day…. I just hope it sticks around a little longer this time around.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Jump back in the third round
We need to get back in the third and snatch up Matt Tennant from BC, we need a solid center to hold down our line and he is my dude or I’ll take J.D. walton
Since we have addressed the most immediate needs for the team with our picks so far, wouldn’t it be a good idea to trade up to grab McCoy? Like, now? He’s a great value at this stage, and we are clearly lacking a long term QB prospect. Somebody needs to make it happen.
Please, would you one time, LET ME BE MYSELF?!
Cleveland is coming up, if Al is gonna do something, he needs to do it now.
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+1. cant see the Browns passing on this one. I was surprised that they didn’t snag Clausen.
by CarolinaCanes on Apr 23, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they passed on Clausen because they like McCoy more.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, and no, we shouldn’t take him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
We need another wide receiver? We have other needs to fill before we think about who should be playing with Murphy, Schilens and Heyward-Bey.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
dont know why you wouldnt want him as a later round pick.....
depth is always good at WR, and he was a stud at Tex.
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Houston's Versatility Report
Houston’s experience at defensive end and defensive tackle should make him a more valuable player in the draft. He can move around in any 4-3 defense and provide quality depth anywhere on the line.
So what are you all thinking the rest of the way?
What possitions should the Raiders focus on? and what players with those possitions?
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Want at least another OL pick
We need quality and depth there. Wouldn’t mind a CB, especially if they’re a kick returner.
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cb, g, c
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QB- Colt McCoy, Dan LeFevour
DL- Everson Griffen, Cam Thomas
OL- Ciron Black
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OG, LSU
Not sure where to find a link. Google him?
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Scouting report
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=1666
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Colt McCoy is absolutely the pick here at number 85.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:31 PM PDT reply actions
Dammit.
Please, would you one time, LET ME BE MYSELF?!
by Ryan Cogdill on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If not cube, it'll be G or C
possibly RB
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LOLz! After all the talking heads said the Raiders might take him at #8
Campbell is STILL ON THE BOARD!
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what if we got him in the 3rd day.....
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LOLz! After all the talking heads said the Raiders might take him at #8
They were wrong to think that?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Just because the guy has a great combine, everyone expects Oakland to take him.
Well, it’s a fact that Oakland loves speed. But not at OT! Was Robert Gallery the fastest OT? No. He was the highest rated OT though. Everyone was just sterotyping Al. And of course, he proved them wrong.
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Just because the guy has a great combine, everyone expects Oakland to take him.
That made sense to me for the pundits to say that.
Plus, I don’t know what “talking heads” had Campbell going eighth overall. McShay and Kiper didn’t have Campbell going eighth overall. I don’t know about Mike Mayock.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No actual experts did..But alot of websites did.
Maycock had us taking Anthony Davis
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MeLOL Kiper had us taking Clausen
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Absolutely! I mean DHB was still a 1st round talent...
maybe not top 10 but 1st round non the less…..
Campbell is a 3rd rnd or later type guy.
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Not even the Raiders would take him in the first round if they got a do-over
And if you are weak among our receiving corp, you are weak. Not to say he can’t improve, but you need better performance in your first year if you’re picked in the first year.
@worldblee on Twitter.
LMAO!
WRs are known for having TERRIBLE rookie seasons. Amongst all the positions other than QB, WRs are known for rookie struggles.
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Yep, WRs are known for having bad first seasons
But DHB’s was particularly bad. Hopefully, Cable is right about his improvement in camp, but I’ll believe when I see it on the field.
And it’s why you want to be sure if you take a WR high in the first round that he’s worth it. I don’t think DHB was.
@worldblee on Twitter.
I agree with this........
“if you take a WR high in the first round that he’s worth it.”
DHB was a reach no doubt that early in the 1st round. In the 20’s?not so much IMO.
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DHB picked due to being a good fit
That’s what they said last yr when they took him over Crabtree, that he was a better fit for their system. I didn’t buy it personally since you couldn’t argue w/Crabtree’s production or him playing hurt even tho he played in a wide open offense that produced big #s (where’s Graham Harrell these days?).
That said, I think Dez Bryant is better than Crabtree. But I think Damian WIlliams from USC is gonna be a sleeper. Another WR sleeper that’s still out there is Riley Cooper from FLA, Tebow’s roommate. He’s big & fast & if he can catch Tebow’s f-ed up passes, he must have great hands.
The guy that led us to victory against Cincinnati and Pittsburgh?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And bruce doesnt have the arm necessary to take full advantage of DHBs
biggest weapon….
Down the field straight line speed.
Murphy is a better route runner and thus had a better rookie year.
S&BP > Mile High Mules
absolutely
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 23, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Campbell is the kind of high ceiling low floor talent,
that you couldn’t count on to start anywhere, let alone guard. Still I have no problem taking him in the 4th as the early reports of Veldheer remind me of Gallery and he may end up being a guard anyway.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
And we need better backups anyway
We saw enough of our backups playing this year.
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One player still standing in the green room here at Radio City – Brandon Ghee from Wake Forrest. Hope he goes soon.
I don't want another player or pick in return, all I want is.... a SHRUBBERY!
Haters are like todays republican party, they whine and complain without offering and idea or solution. It's once in a blue moon one comes a long and is worth listening to
Quick Veldheer facts courtesy Jerry McDonald
– The highest division II draft pick since 1999. (Lamar King, Seattle, 1999, Saginaw Valley)
– First Hillsdale playe drafted since receiver Nate Jackson by Pittsburgh in 1980.
– Only offensive lineman to finish in the top 10 in all combine events.
– Has personally spoken with Al Davis.
– Was on track to go to medical school upon entering Hillsdale.
– Had individual workouts with San Francisco, the New York Giants, Philadelphia and Denver.
– Only Hillsdale player drafted higher was Green Bay place kicker Chester Marcol in 1972.
– Regional finalist for Gene Upshaw Award as top offensive lineman in small college ranks.
– Most notable Hillsdale offensive lineman _ Howard Mudd, former 49ers star and Indianapolis line coach.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
no doubt, a steal...
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Yeah, I like it.
He seems like he has a much better chance to come in and contribute than Campbell. The only thing I didn’t like that I saw was the questioning of his aggressiveness. Still great feet=good zone blocker.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, I Just shook Jim Otto's hand!!!!
Jim Otto is here!!!!
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 6:41 PM PDT reply actions
a god! I'm so jealous
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
No way! I am so jealous of you today!!!!!
Tell him to phone and with his pick for a center in the draft.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn phone Al not and
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
who won the big board bet?
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 23, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I got nine, I think you may have had 9, too
but you may want to check. Also I think you nailed the first 7. Insider trading! 2 of mine involved the trade provision I established so I am will to concede that as a tie breaker.
Bottom line is early results lean towards you being draft master! So, what does the rest of the draft hold for the Raiders, Draft Master?
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i won, seriously?
I wish I knew, I was right on one prediction, I said that the Raiders would take two trench players in their top four picks, so that came true. hold on…
My article, seven picks, seven predictions:
1- Taylor Mays will not be a Raider
2- Oakland will draft at least two trench players in the first four rounds
3. Oakland will draft a Sleeper in a late round
4- Bruce Campbell is not be the Raider first round pick
5. Oakland will draft a QB in this draft…eventually
6. Another Linebacker is a high priority
7. This year’s draft class will get Oakland over the 11 loss hump
Read the full article here: http://tfdssports.com/2010-articles/april/seven-picks-seven-predictions.html
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 23, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
lol, Rivers is a douche
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 23, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been meaning to comment on how offensive your tagline is...
it does a great disservice to douches.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Hell no...
douches don’t deserve to be trashed by being compared to Rivers! Hahaha
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, douches everywhere are completely insulted
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
WOW
I remember I met him and shook his hands when I was little during a Raiders training camp, such a nice guy
I don't want another player or pick in return, all I want is.... a SHRUBBERY!
Haters are like todays republican party, they whine and complain without offering and idea or solution. It's once in a blue moon one comes a long and is worth listening to
WOW
I remember I met him and shook his hands when I was little during a Raiders training camp, such a nice guy
I don't want another player or pick in return, all I want is.... a SHRUBBERY!
Haters are like todays republican party, they whine and complain without offering and idea or solution. It's once in a blue moon one comes a long and is worth listening to
So far Kirk is in the green zone
I don't want another player or pick in return, all I want is.... a SHRUBBERY!
Haters are like todays republican party, they whine and complain without offering and idea or solution. It's once in a blue moon one comes a long and is worth listening to
Only cause no one wanted to trade their 3rd for them. He's gone tomorrow morning
Phillip Rivers Is A Douche
He's gotta be worth something to someone.
I imagine the Raiders will be getting desperate to trade him. Of course, other teams probably know now if the Raiders don’t trade him, they’ll cut him and they can pick him up on a cheaper contract and not lose a pick.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Sooooo glad that didn't actually happen
We do not need another overweight, overpaid, lazy fuck tainting the locker room.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Everson Griffen
is still there, crazy, this is a strange draft…
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I thought he’d go in the second round.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Cable should jump on it
Too good of a value to pass up if he goes to the 4th
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
I'd take him. Ecspecially in the 4th.
He has a crazy pass rush, I mean, CRAZY. but some question his work ethic. But for a 4th? He’s worth it.
Phillip Rivers Is A Douche
The Bengals made another good pick. Brandon Ghee is a steal.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions
Everyone has their weaknesses, but the guy was projected to go in the second round by some. To get him with a compensation pick is a steal.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
SOB, Spirals and I just spent 20 minutes talking to Jim Otto about all things Raiders:
He thinks really highly of Sampson Satele and thinks that we need another Offensive Lineman. One that can start right away. The general consensus is Mitch Petrus, amongst us. I asked Otto to put a bug in Al’s ear.
All I can say is that if you live close to here and you didn’t come out…Shame on you!!! ;)
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 7:09 PM PDT reply actions
Yes
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Shame on you!!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I think there's enough shame in missing the opportunity to talk football with Jim Otto, the HOFer Raider of all time!
I live almost 350 miles away and I’m ashamed! Next year’s gonna be off the hook! Jake, I’ll pick you up if you don’t have your license yet!
Sons! I tried to call you! I’ll be wanting to know all about it, and also figuring out which three games I’ll be buying tix for! I’m so envious of you guys!
How’d you pull that one off, Ray? mad props, my Raider man!
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Siblings like Raiders!!
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 23, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
that is so freakin cool that Otto would bs football like that. Living Legend!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 23, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
"OT"s Top 10 performance
He was the only “OT” to finish in the top ten in every combine test so that prolly speaks very loud to “MrD”…Not just speed but all around performance…
I think Everson Griffen and Bruce Campbell are the two best players available.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Three 5th Round picks
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We should take Olsen (Center) no? heard he is a mean streak guy...with the 4th.
Or Griffen no doubt, but we are full there, we would need to cut Groves, or Gunheim.
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Olsen can play guard as well
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Apr 23, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Personally, my favorite at this point is Tony Pike. I do think somebody will grab him in round four, however, and I don’t think we should take a quarterback until our last pick in the fifth round. I think we need a cornerback and an interior lineman first for sure.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Syd’Quan Thompson.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It just depends when.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 23, 2010 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
would love to get three of
Bruce Campbell, Cam Thomas, Syd’quan Thompson, Dan Lefevour/ Tony Pike, Jonn Conner.
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 PM PDT reply actions
If they're going to get a runningback in the end, then they should get Deji Karim from Southern Illinois.
We have nobody on the team like this guy. He’s a shorter guy, but he is strong and really fast. He ran a 4.37 and can also return kicks. If we got him in the 6th or 7th, he could be a big steal. I think he has the potential to be a big time weapon, especially on screens.
If they're going to get a runningback in the end, then they should get Deji Karim from Southern Illinois.
We have nobody on the team like this guy. He’s a shorter guy, but he is strong and really fast. He ran a 4.37 and can also return kicks. If we got him in the 6th or 7th, he could be a big steal. I think he has the potential to be a big time weapon, especially on screens.
Cant wait for rounds 4-7
Can’t remember the last time I was this stoked for the last four rounds. Think we should target the following (according to our remaining pix):
4th- OL
5th- OL
5th- QB (gogogogo Dan LeFevour)
6th- CB
7th- 2 pix here, wouldn’t suck to use them to trade up into the 5th/6th
For folks saying get rid of Morrison, I don’t think so. He’s been VERY productive & was thrust into MLB even tho he was always an OLB. Let’s not blame him, he had a crappy line in front of him which will change this yr. Thomas Howard also rox! Now we got Kamerion Wimbley. That makes for 4 VERY good LBs. I’m loving our depth there.
The Jets just cut Alan Faneca. Wanna upgrade our O-Line real quick? Grab him real quick, pay him & make him the leader of a young O-LIne.
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