Fun With the Raiders 2010 Draft Class Quotes
The following is an article I pieced together based on some of the interviews given by the newest Oakland Raiders Draft class of 2010. The picks go in order of the round the players were drafted. All of the following quotes are true quotes from the draftees. All of the full interviews with these players can be found on Raiders.com.
First Round Draft Choice Rolando McClain:
"I was at a loss for words. All the work I've put in for the last twenty years has paid off. I had no idea that the Raiders were that interested in me. They weren't like the other teams I thought were interested. {Coach Cable} asked me if I could lead this defense, and I said of course I can."
Rolando, of the 2010 draft class you are my favorite. In fact, you are my favorite from like the last six years. You are the first one in approximately that period of time that I've actually wanted the Raiders to draft in the first round. I just want to say, welcome to the Raiders family, now what are you going to give us?
"My intensity; not just as a football player, but as a teammate and friend to these guys. I know the Raiders haven't been winning a lot these last few seasons, but everything happens for a reason. Now, my personality as far as meeting guys, I'm too much of an outgoing guy, but when it comes to football, I love to win. I do what I have to do for the team and the defense to have success. I'm gonna do my job and I pride myself on stopping the run. I think we're all gonna do what we have to do to stop the run."
Wow my man, that is almost as impressive as your resume. Going from a 7-6 team when you arrived in your freshman year to winning a National Championship in your junior year at the school. That is quite an accomplishment for anybody.
"Coach {Nick} Saban showed me what to watch and how to watch film. I have a certain order to how I watch film. I give all the credit to coach Saban for being what I am. Coach has made me what I am now. He was a great role model and a father figure."
Second Round Pick Lamarr Houston:
"I was very alated, I'm happy to be a Raider. So much history in there and their fans; I grew up in California; I was born in San Francisco. My brother-in-law used to make me watch all types of Raiders games when he was dating my sister."
I have to say Lamarr, your brother-in-law sounds like he is a pretty good guy. You are a pretty lucky guy, not only do you get to come to your home state, but you get the opportunity to play for a team that you grew up idolizing. You must be doing something right in life to get to line up next to guys like Nnamdi Asomugha and Richard Seymour.
"It's an honor to play with Richard Seymour. Hopefully this year, we can make him a pro bowler again."
Hopefully, this year you guys develop a strong bond and both of you make the Pro Bowl and help this team beat those San Diego Stupid Chokers. That would be a dream come true for me, I challenge you to make it happen Mr. Houston.
Third Round Pick Jared Veldheer:
"We ran a lot of multi formational single back offense, lot of inside zone {blocking}. I'm very comfortable with outside zone, inside zone; I'm pretty familiar, pretty comfortable with how those schemes work. I can't wait to start the hard work as a Raider. "
This kid sounds like he is very bright. He was actually studying to be a doctor, taking steps to go to medical school, thus the division II Hillsdale College. It's obvious that smarts are important to him, because he did receive some division I offers like Purdue, Central Michigan, and Western Michigan. Jared said he chose Hillsdale for their outstanding academics. You, sir, are a hard worker and a solid addition.
Fourth Round Draft Pick Bruce Campbell:
"I always feel like I have something to prove, ever since the combine where people felt like I was a workout warrior. But I'm a good football player too, now I have an opportunity to prove that with the Raiders."
Yes, indeed, you do Mr. Campbell and now, thanks to some crafty drafting, you will actually have to prove yourself instead of just getting fat paid right out of the gate. Some people have said that Al Davis slept right up until the moment the Raiders drafted you.
"That's where the cards fell, I know what I'm going to brings to the table when I get there and I have a chip on my shoulder. I didn't play special team at all in Maryland, but it's something I would love to do...I would love to do it. I love the game so much, I'm a team player."
Hey, now you're talking. I love the attitude. Now lace your cleats up and knock the snot out of somebody with all those muscles you have. You will be a good right guard, I can sense it.
Fourth Round Pick Jacoby Ford:
"I definitely think it helps out a lot going from the track to the football field. I'm a deep threat, vertical threat and I can stretch the field. I love the fact that I'm going to the black hole. I'm excited to get out there."
Normally, Raider fans are a little touchy when it comes to the idea that Al Davis is building a track team rather than a football team, but Jacoby Ford offers something a bit different in that he has really good hands and ball skills. This guy will have an opportunity to develop into a dangerous return man and given some time to work on his route running, he could prove to be a deadly slot receiver. He could be a real Wes Welker type of guy for the Raiders, only with track star speed.
Fifth Round Pick Walter McFadden:
"I just recently heard the good news about Groves coming; I played with him at Auburn. It's my first time in California, it will be very exciting."
Now the trend is to be excited to be an Oakland Raider. Of course, most of these guys are mainly excited to be in the NFL period. I can't say that I blame them...I guess getting to go to a team in California is a perk in and of itself as opposed to a team like Minnesota, Green Bay, or Buffalo where it is bitterly cold and boring.
"I'm ready to get in and make my presence known so we can start out winning and get to the super bowl. I just wanna show my coverage skills, my ability to tackle, my enthusiasm what I was taught to do, hopefully I can bring my experience to them."
I think that you may want to let their experience come to you. But what do I know, I'm just an outsider. From what I saw of the highlight reels on this kid, he looks like he is very explosive for a guy who Sports Illustrated called a "small cornerback."
Six Round Pick Travis Goethel {pronounced Gay-thul}:
"I'm down here in San Diego, all my friends are Chargers fans, and I'm ready to shut ‘em all up."
I have to say, Travis, we in the Raider Nation are all ready for Chargers fans to shut up too. I'm not sure what you are doing in San Diego, being that you played your college ball in Arizona, but my advice would be to get out of there as soon as possible. Tell me, Travis, what are your plans once you get to Alameda?
"I'll expect to get in there and find out where I fit in, because I know they've drafted the number one backer in the land, Rolando McClain. I'm going to go in there and be the hardest working guy in there and do whatever it takes to make this team win."
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic when you call McClain the "best backer in the land" or if you are just paying your respects. I do have a feeling that they want you to help on special teams. Did you hear what Raiders head coach Tom Cable said about you?
"Goethel excites me because he is a true inside linebacker that's a tough downhill player. I think he enhances our special teams."
I think that is a challenge Mr. Goethel, now Goethel forth and enhance the special teams!
Just for fun, here are some Sports Illustrated Screw Up's:
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LMAO, Jaco"D"y Ford? Where have you been SI, under a rock? Everybody knows that two guys from Clemson ran the fastest 40's at the combine, evidently, one was Jacody Ford.
And who in the heck is the other guy? I followed the entire draft and I never saw the Raiders draft him. In the words of my three year old son, "What in da World?"
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Don't forget to add
Wimbley, Campbell, and Groves as they are now apart of this class.
"I need a couple A's for Q's, I'm not an Asshole I'm just a little confused"
-Aesop Rock
I could probably put some Campbell quotes in there
But none of the above are really 2010 draftees
Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!
by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 25, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Wes Welker is becoming an adjective! lol!
But ford doesn’t seem like a welker to me, he seems like Mr. Reliable Kevin Faulk!
Kevin Faulk: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80ced981/WK-13-Kevin-Faulk-highlights
by adding the 3 trades and getting rid of kirk also!
by sports with steve on Apr 25, 2010 4:32 PM PDT reply actions
I don't think getting rid of Kirk was a great thing as much as it just opens up more space
He was a good player
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Attacking others only attacks yourself
We got rid of the softness...which is priceless and the hugging of Rivers after Charger losses, plus more...
Good player, just too soft and ultimately not an mlb.
The RaiderLaker
Too soft for MLB
He would have been great at OLB, he’s a decent MLB. Just not the one we needed
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Attacking others only attacks yourself
I realize that the poll is confidential...
but I’d like to hear the reasoning from those folks who gave a grade of F.
C'mon now
Other teams gotta hate, its the Raider Nation.
"I need a couple A's for Q's, I'm not an Asshole I'm just a little confused"
-Aesop Rock
i'm intrigued with the prospect of our offensive line being...like...good
There are a few different lineups i could see..but this would seem the most likely
LT – LG – C – RG – RT
Veldheer – Gallery – Satele – B. Campbell – Henderson
by birds'n'raiders on Apr 25, 2010 6:39 PM PDT reply actions
i dont see campbell taking carlisle out his rookie year
he was solid just injury proned, maybe as the season goes on, hed eventually take over the guard spot. but as you put it looks good so far. maybe we pick faneca and he can take over.
The line for 2011??
It doesn’t sound like Veldheer and Campbell will be ready this year—but hopefully they’re quick learners and otherwise already ready for NFL action
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
Veldheer may not be ready to start and he definitely isn't ready to start at LT...
I am just really hoping Satele will step it up this year and Gallery can stay health. I thought Walker looked better at G than Carlisle. Who knows what we could expect out of Barnes this year.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 25, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't see Mario losing his staring spot this year to a rookie
He just hasn’t played that badly and he’s improved every year. He really only played poorly when two things happened at the same time: 1. Gallery was hurt, and 2. JaFatass was in the game holding the ball too long.
Veldheer will have a good shot at RT though. He’s gonna have to compete with Langston Walker and B. Campbell could be in the mix too.
As far as RG goes it’ll be a shoot out, but I don’t believe B. Campbell has played any guard, if the new kid the UDFA out of USC Alex Parsons can make the team he’s got a shot. He’ll at least get a chance to compete.
When I want Mel Kipers opinion, I'll fucking give it to him !
Me
this draft got rave reviews in a lot of places
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
A+. Superb. Addressed all the needs, got some beef in the trenches, and got Campbell for a fourth 2 years from now
and we were complaining about how we were gonna have a shitty draft. I’m esctatic, and can’t wait for this sqad to develop.
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Going D with our 1st 2 picks says a lot about Cable's faith in this draft's o-line depth (as well as appreciating our need to stop
the run). Then, when we make our move for a T the choice is a pleasant surprise (for some a shock). I love Veldeer and am confident he’ll get NFL experience this season. I’m wondering if they will just convert Campbell to a Guard and keep him there for good.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats the beautiful part about drafting him in the 4th rd.
no pressure to play now because of big money and high draft status.
The Raiders can take their time with Campbell and see what they have,
Campbell has the highest ceiling of all the tackles in the draft, he could turn out to be better than all the others drafted before him. He’s just raw, so they’ll have to figure out where his best position is.
One thing I’m sure of is, he’ll get a shot at LT. With all the pancake blocks in his college film, they’d be nuts not to see if they can polish him up into a dominant LT for the next 10 years.
We’ll see how it shakes out…I can’t wait!!!
When I want Mel Kipers opinion, I'll fucking give it to him !
Me
it's one of the few I kinda called
Rolando was at first one, too, but it changed over the weeks approaching the draft. Jason Campbell too, and Kirk’s being instrumental… Bravo!
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Brhnno, I was seeing your name under "get Veldeer" posts < 2-weeks leading up to the draft - you appreciated him
We did have Jered Veldeer as our #1 pick out of 5 listed on the draft board that Saint was keeping current during the draft party at Ricky’s Friday. When Veldeer was called our group cheered while 3/4 of the place looked vacant. Haha! They shall know soon enough how great a pick that was.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Ford will be a great threat. As a matter of fact I noticed McCluster is smaller than him, he can be put at RB at times and WR slot, KR/PR, great threat guy.
Future Pro Bowler. I saw his combine workout: Damn! talk about being fit, the guy never gasped for air (or even open his mouth) exceptional endurance, speed, quickness, and strength for his size.
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and once, about fifteen minutes before the pick on the board Saturday
I was able to squeeze it in! that thread had about a hundred guys on at once!
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I thought it was a really, really solid draft. They finally built the line they have been talking about building for awhile.
I gave them a B+, just because I thought they could have got one or two more guys that were sure hits.
But getting Campbell in the 4th when many had him going 8th overall was huge. Getting O lineman at all was a big deal.
I don’t know tons about Lamarr Houston, but we needed a DT/NG type player very much. It’s hard to draft most of these guys unless we see them play in the next season or two.
But picking up Campbell was huge. I have said it before and I still believe it. The Raiders are a playoff team with an average QB. Gradkowski could have got them to the playoffs perhaps, but I think Campbell gives us a legitimate shot at making the playoffs this year.
He may not be the long term answer at QB, but he will make the Raiders respectable for the next two seasons. Then next year, they can draft/trade for the future QB.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
I think of Bruce started from day 1
We go 9-7 , if Campbell doesn’t end up like Aaron Brooks we could go 10-6. If he fails we got Bruce. Were deep at every spot now, there isn’t a spot on the team other than center that we don’t have back up plans
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Attacking others only attacks yourself
Punch Drunk
First chance for you guys to drink the punch in nearly a decade and you are absolutely drunk on it.
I'm stoked we picked up Tonga, McFadden, and Satele.
I liked that trade-down strategy in the 2nd, and our OT acquisitions.
I love that we have a presence LB in the middle, and a monster DT with an attitude up front.
Our 2nd round pick is a perfect complement to Seymour.
Our 4th round pick was excellent, and makes our deep threat that much more viable.
I'm assuming you speak of Ford, not Bruce Campbell
Unless you speak of our 4th in 2012, Jason Campbell.
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by angelesoterica on Apr 26, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I wanted someone fast with decent numbers too, so we can have someone out there in deep space besides DHB.
Four hands are better than two.
haha
DHB has like a half a hand, so to fix your comment, e’d have to say, 2 1/2 hands are better than two
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 26, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Just Outta Curiosity
…what do you guys think the odds are that JaMarcus Russell is still with the Raiders after the next few weeks? (when he is due a 9 million dollar bonus)
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
If he won't restructure his contract : 100,000,000 to 1
When I want Mel Kipers opinion, I'll fucking give it to him !
Me
The Fact that
he is due a huge roster bonus is a sure sign he is GONE. I really dont think the Raiders will pay it.
the fact that the raiders have FIVE qb’s on the roster right now means he is gone also.
Campbell
Russell,
Gradkowski
Frye,
and another who escapes me.
which three would YOU keep?
Campbell, Gradkowski, and ___________ (fill in the blank) is who Id keep.
I dont think Russell would accept that. he’s gone.
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Kyle Boller
Id keep:
Campbell (1)
Boller (2)
Gradkowski (3)
Dont think many would disagree.
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
If there's an open competition then that will shake out on its own. Otherwise, Grad at #2, - he deserves that much
I’m displeased with Bruce hurting himself in the weight-room (of all places) but it would be bad to place him 3rd on the depth chart after what he did for us (and he saved Cable’s job too).
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 26, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldnt disagree with that...
he saved Cable’s job too
Campbell
Gradkowski
Boller
I’ll buy that
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd keep
Campbell
Gradkowski
Frye[ because I think Frye was in good with the staff last year, and he is the hardest working third string QB in the league
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by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Raider Mgmt
must have already known they were planning on either acquiring a QB in Free Agency (McNabb=Fail…Campbell=Win) or seeing about drafting one. hence, they sign BOTH Gradkowski (to be a #2) and Boller (to compete w/Frye for #3).
add that ALL up? Russell = History
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
i love it! i invite you to his going away party.
at burger king ,its all the whoppers,shake s and fries u can eat. j russell is fliping the bill , i mean hamburgers!
by sports with steve on Apr 26, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
for the past 8 years i thought the raiders were going to make the playoffs
and guess what happened all 8 of those years 2003 being the personal worst for me. anything better than 5 wins and i will throw a party. Still think Russell would be a good qb if he would get his head in the game and that Lane Kiffen should be coach. wow right? thats my life. its sad,and dark,and missing the playoffs. Gallery is our only o lineman that isnt stealing money from football. Cut the Cable,will give him props for those epic wins but come on seriously change gone come and its not soon enough. that being said i have completely lost interest in football and only really care about beating afc west rivals a good 6-0 sweep would be very very nice. end rant
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I hear ya
The Raiders have ONE draft where they dont completely tank it, reach, or otherwise do something else that’s stupid and they expect credit for it. It would take another FIVE drafts (at least) just to undo the damage they last five drafts have done. (and i may be being generous there)
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Not 5 years T.P. - 3/4 of 1 year, i.e. 8 months
It would take another FIVE drafts (at least) just to undo the damage they last five drafts have done. (and i may be being generous there)
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
If youre sayin
2/3 year to UNDO then YOU are being generous
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
We are going to the playoffs this season. And yes, I am inebriated by the events of the past week.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 26, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
are you sure its still not the DHB juice left over from LAST april?
;)
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 26, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
calm down cowboy, just because we had a great draft doesnt mean we make the playoffs.
to make the playoffs you have to win baby!i am so excited but we have to jell and play hard to win our division
by sports with steve on Apr 26, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha! my days of calm are over; I can almost taste the victories (rather like char broiled skirt steak marinated in cognac)
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 26, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Raider Management
is acting like the trouble kid in 3rd grade who wants a smiley face stamped on his class work assignment simply for not having set a fire in the trash basket all day
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't get that at all
And since you’re not a fan, I don’t think your in a position to judge this team’s mentality since you haven’t been here to experience it. I really don’t mean offense by that statement. There was a mental change to this team as soon as Cable took over and they started to run the garbage players out of town. Raider management should be happy that at the very least, they have tough choices to make when it comes to who will make this team and who won’t. 4 years ago, that wasn’t a difficult process. I believe that the Raiders gaffes when it comes to 1st round picks has you tainted. I suggest you do a little research before commenting as I would if I came to the Cowgirls board.
No offense taken
but I have been around for about a year now.
when the faithful were trying so hard to convince themselves that DHB was the next coming of Fred Biletnikoff. The boards were filled with reasons why all the other players (OLs, DL, and WRs) we absolutely NO GOOD and of no use to the Raiders.
The Raiders made a HUGE pickup when you picked up Jason Campbell. But if youre gonna call out the Cowboys, sure. Jerry Jones has a history of overpaying for Free Agents (Galloway, Williams) but their drafts are usually SOLID.
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't remember
that many people were happy about DHB. In fact, I remember just the opposite. Of course every board has a few of those folks who always think that their Owner/GM/Lord of All can do no wrong. I didn’t have a problem NOT selecting Crabtree as opposed to DHB because he said he didn’t want to play for the Raiders. We didn’t need another malcontent on the team. I would have gone for Monroe or Oher last year but the Raiders as an organization do not generally listen to me.
As I look back at 2 drafts previous to this one, I see some real potential.
In 2008 we had McFadden (if he can stay healthy and break a tackle here and be used more as a WR, he could be very special), Tyvon Branch (one of our starting Safeties) Arman Shields (injury derailed his career), Trevor Scott who has been a beast on passing downs at DE and has played well at LB and Chaz Schilens who may be our best WR if he stays healthy…if you haven’t paid attention to him, do so, He’s good.
In 2009 we had DHB, a fast WR with questionable hands and was picked too high in the draft. I give him this year to get it right, if not, swing and a big miss (like I said, I would have preferred OL). Then we took Mike Mitchell, again probably too high but the rumors were that the Bears were going to take him. As Huff wasn’t progressing (Branch was hurt as well), we needed another Safety and grabbed the hardest hitting of the lot. Matt Shaughnessy was next and he was solid at Wisconsin and played exceptionally well for the Raiders as did the next pick Louis Murphy. Slade Norris will probably end up just a special teams guy (provided he stays healthy) and Stryker Sulak was released (can’t win ’em all). The last pick was Brandon Myers who was drafted as a blocking TE but as we found out last year, the dude has great hands as well. Just need a QB to get the ball into them!
Combine those drafts with this year, add the trades and FA pick-ups, subtract the malcontents, then look at the team overall attitude (they actually play for each other, they care about TEAM) and you’ll see why there is a certain amount of exuberance for this team. I don’t know that they’re SB bound yet but just as fast as things can fall apart, they can come together.
I do remember A LOT of people
bending over backwards praising the DHB pick.
I can name them saint, oz raider, nishal26, 8fogtown, SBCitizen, and I could go on.
These are actual quotes, Ive looked them up.
HEY BEY BEY, HEY BEY BEY, HEY BEY BEY, HEY BEY BEY
Welcome to THE BAY !
WIN lose OR TIE RAIDERS TILL I DIE !!!!
—fogtown
SBCitizen
However, DHB is the best fit for JR. JR has the arm and DHB has the speed to get to it. The fit is what I think is important here.
Nishal26
DHB in my opioin will be much much better than Crabtree and I’m not just saying that because he is a Raider. He has a lot more to contirbute than Crabtree will ever give. His speed is unmatched we all know that and he is selfless in my opioion and I am glad we took him over Crabtree cuz we don’t need his kind of attitude with us
sports with steve
CRABTREE IS A DIVA, HAS AN ATTITUDE PROBLEM AND TALKS SH## ! THE SO CALLED DRAFT EXPERTS SAID CRABTREE WAS THE 2ND BEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT, KONG, WRONG , THEN WHY DID 9 TEAMS PASS HIM UP? CRABTREE IS OVERATED AND DHB IS UNDERATED. CRABTREE WILL FIND OUT HOW FAST THE NFL IS AND DHB WILL PASS BY CORNERS
hell, nishal even went so far as to write a fan post entitled…Who will have a Better NFL Legacy DHB or Crabtree
my argument was always “You could have had Brian Orakpo, BJ Raji, Eugene Monroe, Aaron Maybin and yes, the argument could be made for Michael Crabtree.”
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
another beauty
Crabtree: shorter, slower, less talented…
Facts are facts: Bey holds up under the microscope with abilities like: speed, proset experience, jumps, fights for the ball, height. Crabtree Wilts: snail slow, film shows him consistently taking angles on CB’s, that won’t come close to working against NFL speed CB’s
svduran1
all of this on top of how eager people in raider nation were to draft Crabtree. Yea, some wanted a heavy hitter or a OL but people even came out AGAINST DHB. The fact that people bent over backwards to reverse engineer a reason DHB was better than Crabtree (or any OTHER possible choice) was transparent, pathetic, and reeked of homerism
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
You act as if everyone did that
Which is simply not true.
I was explaining why there is optimism here. You seem to think what exactly? I’m telling you that you don’t know squat about the Raiders but I guess your 1 year of experience and remembering some guys getting excited about DHB (if he pans out, you and I will both be wrong) makes you an expert on this team and it’s fans.
just about...
not only did ALL those people i just quoted act that way. They went OUT OF THEIR WAY to shout down guys like gl12ox05, 30YearR8RFan, and R3ZZ. Who called out Raider management for their monumental brain fart.
Read RaiderRocker18’s Now this is getting ridiculous…
the trolls really came out on that thread. guys like trentmoeller, thirteenfox, and gametime.
remember the fact that one year later youre still saying “if he (dhb) pans out” is hardly reason for the elation last year. Crabtree sat out 5 games (more or less) and still WAY OUTPERFORMED DHB. And yet no one even remembers the holdout because he produced
I can go into all the reasons and arguments people made like Jamarcus is a better QB than anyone the Niners have therefore DHB will be better, etc. But why? All those people look pretty silly about now.
Crab held out five games and amassed these stats
Crabtree
REC—48 YDS—625 TD—2
Heyward-Bey
REC—9 YDS—124 TD—1
thats more than five times as many catches and five times as many yards as DHB. There were people were dismissing Crab as disappearing or wilting in games. DHB VANISHED for as many games (the last five of the season, I might add) as Crabtree held out.
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm trying to figure out your point.
Why are you here exactly? I gave you the reasons for optimism. Did I say DHB was Jesus? Is anyone saying DHB is Jesus? Some guys liked him last year. Maybe he’ll get better, maybe not. I laid out the past few drafts. Based on that and the players the Raider have cut and signed, we see progress.
You are not even “just about” an expert. You are here trolling so you can put folks down. Very cool..if you are 10 years old.
Of course, since I went to school for 6 months in Texas, I am just about an expert on all there is about Texans. You are quite typical actually.
You are the one
who said (twice) people didnt defend the DHB pick. You dont remember people doing that.
Im just pointing out HOW prevalent it actually was. For someone to go so far as to make a fan post entitled “Now this is getting Ridiculous” in response to SO MANY PEOPLE trying to laud the DHB pick and reverse engineer reasons why DHB was a better pick than ________. (Fill in the blank)
Read it for yourself.
MOST people were doing just what I said they were, some were saying wait and see, and an even smaller percentage were hating it. I was actually in the wait and see camp. Although I did come out and defend Crabtree when I felt the hindsighted criticism was unfair. I felt, wait and see but dont dump on all the guys you didnt take just cuz you took DHB.
Again….dont take my word for it…read it for yourself
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
You continue
to want to talk about DHB. Like i said, so some guys liked him. I didn’t and plenty of others didn’t. I’m done with the DHB issue. Can you read? What was my overall point? Reasons for optimism! Address that if you want to reply.
Sure
this years draft is a cause for optimism. My point earlier was simply that you should make sure you can differentiate real reasons for optimism from blind koolaid drinking.
my point was that a lot of bad drafts have come and gone and this draft(if it is a good one) has a lot of making up to do.
I simply used the DHB euphoria as a case in point for blatant homerism.
you were the one who said you didnt remember any such praising of the DHB pick and I put up examples of just that. No harm meant.
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 28, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I know there was some DHB love
but not everyone loved him, me included. I never said that no one praised him. I remember more people that despised the pick. There are homers on every blog. There aren’t any on the Cowboy’s page? :-)
I also laid out for you why (beyond DHB’s Greatness :-) ) there is optimism here. You have to look at the bigger picture, again as I discussed in detail. As a fan since the early 70’s I’ve witnessed a lot. Never thought I would see days like we did after the SB flop. I see progress and I don’t think that all the exuberance is based on this draft. This was the most logical draft in a great while so if a few guys are getting a bit kooky, so be it. When the team shakes out and we’re into regular season, calmer heads will prevail. I invite you to pop back in at that time when the real discussions take place. There are some incredibly knowledgeable folks on this board, which is why I ditched the other ones I was on and came here. Saint, TheRaiderWay, LiveAdam, KA1Z3R, Rated-R, Sons of Blanda, Spirals Galore, B.A. Armstrong, noontide, MikesD1981, Brhynno, LyleAlzadoPunch, Jake (formerly Remix), and a host of other people are fantastic. Doesn’t mean we agree all of the time but we are a nation of brothers (and a sisters) so a heated discussion is to be expected but we have each other’s backs.
THIS
is a debate we can have. :-bd (two thumbs up)
Im out, for now!
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by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 28, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Gave the draft an A-
Our first 4 rounds were an A+, all addressing needs, but every pick after that was questionable for me. We could’ve drafted a Guard, Center, QB, and/or FB with those remaining picks.
Still the best draft we’ve had in a long time.
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis
First 5 Rounds were an A+ is what I meant
"I tell him straight, 'If you're going to lead, you have to be the first to practice. You have to come in, get your work down and be prepared for practice,' " assistant coach Keith Smart said. "He needs to figure out why he is having stomach problems and he's got to watch how LeBron (James), Kobe (Bryant) and D-Wade (Dwyane Wade) work. He needs to mimic that if he wants his teammates to speak volumes about him." -Keith Smart on Motna Ellis

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