Russell or Leaf? By the numbers

At least Russell had an okay 2nd year and had some comebacks in his career

my goodness what jokes. these guys are disgraceful, what happens to a player when he gets into the NFL and just fail? as football player myself i know for guy to be in the spot light in a major sports team you have to have love for the game..where does that go? money i guess will do it, but even so, you grow up playing this sport your life years before the professionals ispure footall, what changes you so much?

the #1 selection overall and Leaf being #2 overall in their respective drafts.
But JaCarass never screamed at anyone, of course that’s because he didn’t have the balls to do it.

the money? Doesn’t that count for anything? Russell robbed you guys. I’d feel a little more sympathy if the guy actually gave it his all, left it all out there and failed. Russell just gave up. I think Leaf was a head case, but Russell made a conscious effort to give no effort. Russell gets my vote.

Here is to a much improved Raiders and Chiefs team for the 2010 season. Maybe I can start to hate you guys again. Now we can battle it out for the AFC West title for the coming years after the Chargers implode after this season. (they can’t pay everyone) And unless Tim Tebow is the 2nd coming of christ, I see the Broncos regressing.

Ryan Leaf is clearly a bigger bust when you look at the numbers. When you look at money, Russell made more because he was drafted number one many years after Leaf. Salaries go up every year, so I don’t figure money into bust status.

He had better offenses and worse stats.

Some teams would have taken him ahead of Manning. I say this because I think there were higher expectations for Leaf coming out than there were for Russell even though Russell was a #1 and Leaf was a #2.

Leaf was like a combo of Russell’s work ethic, Rothlesiberger’s class and Barry Bonds’ attitude with the media. Also, he couldn’t stay healthy.

Look, Russell has been amazingly inept. He hasn’t applied himself at all. He has gotten fat and doesn’t seem to care, but when he was on the field I never thought he was dogging it. He took big hits and kept playing and I haven’t seen any reports of him being an asshole to people. This keeps him out of Leaf’s league in my bust book.

I never heard anything like that about Russell. Leaf is the biggest bust of all time, although Russell is getting close. If he starts this year and tanks it, he could overtake Leaf.

He got paid more guaranteed money than the total contract Leaf signed. Also Oakland had the top overall pick but San Diego had the 2nd after Manning was already drafted. Also Leaf was signed by other teams after he was let go by San Diego. I don’t think JR ever will be.

Leaf was an ass for sure. No one wanted to play with that guy. If Russell wasn’t lazy, he’d be at least average at best. Maybe a step higher than Bruce. I think JaMarcus is a good guy(personally), but his lack of work ethic is what causes players to not want to play for him.

It’s okay though. Jatardo is used to coming in number 2;)

I wouldn’t want to look up these stats because I am so done with J-Wac

throw the ball into the dirt, a couple of yards in front of a wide open receiver, with no one really pressuring him. The whole Colliseum was just like, wtf. Things like that made me feel cheated out of my ticket money.

Unlike Leaf, Russell had no one in his draft class that played QB that has gone on to a level of success like a Manning. When that happens, then I will say Russell is the bigger bust.

You didn’t list all of his ridiculous and often costly fumbles and just overall buffoonish and nightmarish play behind the line. Also, his terrible mechanics,and his execution of various passing plays-neither were as good as Leaf’s. In other words, despite lacking the statical edge, Leaf was a better passer.