The Bacon Fat on Jason Campell
I think it is safe to say the Nation is thrilled by the acquisition of Jason Campbell. This is not surprising since many of us were dreading the sloth in a lineman’s body manning the QB position for the silver and black next year. Let’s just say the bar is set pretty low for QB expectations here.
While Gradkowski earned our respect and has his supporters, I haven’t seen much sentiment that he should be the starter over Campbell. We are ready for the Jason Campbell era to begin.
What can we expect out of Campbell?
I decided to go to the most reliable source, the members of Hogs Haven, for the real 4-1-1 on the man they call J.C. (could there be any more appropriate initials for the man following Russell?). Check out their responses or just keep reading to see what they had to say.
I received responses from over 20 different Hogs and I have to be honest, I am even more excited about him being a Raider now, than I was a couple of days ago.
The Hogs are as eager to express their respect and well-wishes for Campbell as we are ready to say Russell is like a couch, only dumber. I didn't read one negative word about Campbell's attitude or approach to the game. It is safe to assume Campbell will show up ready to work, learn and give everything he has.
We can be certain that is what we are going to get off the field, but what can we expect on it? The Hogs helped answer those questions, too. Jump in.
According to the Hogs he has the ability to get first downs with his feet. He is not a run first QB, but when he does, he makes plays. He has good speed for a man his size.
There is also no doubts about his arm strength. He can sling it long or burn a zone with a bullet pass.
Another quality that drew unanimous praise from the Haven of the Pig is his ability to take a pounding and come back for more. Unfortunately, this is likely a quality we will have plenty of chances to witness first hand.
The biggest knock on Campbell I came across were concerns on his performances late in games. Apparently, he is an all-pro in the 3rd and lost in the 4th. He has 4 career 4th quarter comebacks, but the Hogs are frustrated with blown games and lack of comebacks in the 4th. They do not blame this all on him. They are quick to point out that he has not received much help from his offensive teammates, but they are certainly skeptical about his ability to lead a late game come back.
It was pointed out that he has a less than optimal release and a bad feel for rushers he can’t see, which tends to lead to the dreaded sack and fumble or as we call it the Russell.
It was also noted that Campbell lacks the pinpoint accuracy required to be a dominant west coast QB. The Hogs mentioned he has average accuracy. I wouldn't know. I have forgotten what average accuracy looks like.
The other big weakness of Campbell that was pointed out is his struggle with his reads. He can miss the big read and also can lock onto his receiver. Some of this, no doubt, is due to the fact that the guy has faced a revolving door of systems. Of course, this should help him pick-up the Raiders offense quickly as one Hog said, "(He) probably knows every football system ever invented because he’s played in all of them.
While he can struggle with his reads, Campbell knows how to protect the ball in the redzone. Last year, he had 18 TD’s and no INT’s while his team was playing on the field’s G-spot. This surprised even some of the Hogs. While some were surprised that this number was so lopsidedly good, even more were shocked that the ‘Skins had that many chances in the scoring zones.
We have discussed his lack of deep throws, but we may not have to worry about his ability to make them.
The Hogs are somewhat less than appreciative of Jim Zorn’s coaching ability and play calling and the majority seem to feel that his lack of deep throws are a result of play calling and not his inability to make the throws. He obviously has the arm strength and it is felt the accuracy will be there if he gets the chance and time to unleash them.
Overall, they feel that for a 4th round pick, Campbell is a steal. They would classify him as an average starting QB who seems to be getting better. Many feel that with a little blocking he will be an above average starting QB.
Who knows if the Raiders will provide these things for him next year, but if they don’t at least we know Campbell will still be able to function on at least an average level. An average season from the starting QB will seem like a MVP campaign after what we have been through.
I almost forgot, apparently the dude can’t slide, which should be good for a laugh or two if he doesn’t get his head taken off. I guess they actually tried to bring in a slip and slide to help him learn, but he hurt himself trying. It was promised that the first time I get to witness him sliding I will shoot beer out of my nose.
I can’t wait to start joking about our QB’s inability to slide instead of him shooting craps with one hand and eating from a bucket of fried chicken with the other. Welcome to the Raider Nation, Jason! I think you'll find you are more than welcome here, because even though the guy you are replacing is 7' tall and weighs 782 lbs. you have really small shoes to fill.
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Glad to have him...
He seems like he’s a smart and accurate passer..Which is all we really need.
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I hope he can be the Qb of this team for the forseeable future
I’m sick of changing Qb’s we need stability at the position and I think Campbell can be the guy.
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At this point, I'm uncomfortable with the Author's statement which has the odor of "entitlement"
“We are ready for the Jason Campbell era to begin.”
The depth chart should not be set – competition for each position must be an ongoing process – no Raider should get too comfortable – competition begins in practices so that game days are an extension of that competition. The best at each position the week before a game should always play the following Sunday.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 29, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup, I just dropped a bomb of entitlement.
I am not worried about Campbell not working hard. Some players are entitled. Hell, Nnam doesn’t even participate in pre season stuff. He comes up with an ’injury."
If Grad or Boeller or Frye look like they would bring more to the table, then Campbell will be on a shorter lease, but at this point someone is going to have to take the job from him or he will have to lose it. In my eyes he is the starter, until I have enough evidence to suggest otherwise.
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by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
OK
Let’s say Grads has better practices and preseason results and they start Campbell anyway. What message does that send to the rest of the guys? Didn’t we just go through this? Last time I checked, Campbell was not a Pro Bowl player. Why anoint him?
Because Campbell has shown he is a better NFL QB than Grad.
If Grad looks better, for an extended period of time, then let him start. I am saying he will have to prove this first.
It was different with Russell, because he didn’t try and this was shown over an extended period of time. He never proved himself in this league. Russell was the definition of entitlement.
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by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Campbell will win the job....
I am a lifelong, die hard Raiders fan and have been since I was but 5 years old. I now live in Virginia where every Sunday is a Fox NFL Redskin day and I can tell you from watching Campbell every weekend that he is leaps and bounds ahead of Gradkowski. He is by far one of the hardest working players on the field. By that I mean he does not ever want to settle for a negative play. I think this is why his RZ numbers are so good. The problem Campbell has had is that his O-Line looked like a spaghetti strainer and he has a had a new Offensive Scheme to learn every year he has been in the NFL and while he was at Auburn. On top of that, he has actually gotten better every year he has been in the League. While I love what Grads did for us last year, he is a career back-up. He will excel in that role though because I truly believe that their are very few QB’s in the league that would be as good a coach or play caller as Grad is. If Campbell increases his play the way he has every year so far we are in for a great year! As a side note, while our O-Line was horrendous last year, Washington actually was way worse. Campbell just helped the stats with his escaping.
by BlackHole77 on Apr 29, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Noon & BlackHole
I believe that he will win the competition and that Grads is a fantastic back-up…but I still have a problem with his anointment. If he’s better, he will win the spot and respect of his teammates.
I agree
I meant to put in the post an emphasis on he will WIN the job. Campbell hasn’t struck me as the type of player that wants the job handed to him. When they replaced him with Todd Collins, he worked hard and got the starting job back. He is the Anti-Jamarcus in every way.
I'm in Virginia now, too.
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A little bit south of Richmond. Chesterfield County.
My take on Campbell
I have been a JC fan since he was drafted and I still am. So I just wanted to give everyone over here a little perspective on what I’ve seen from him over the years.
First, let me say that if you want to know what JC was envisioned to be in the NFL you need to look at 2 past Redskin QB’s, Mark Rypien and Doug Williams. Most people forget that Joe Gibbs drafted JC to run that type of offense. You’ve heard the usual about how many systems he has been under in his career and that’s all true, but I believe that has really made him that much tougher. He’s taken his share of hard knocks in the NFL and has only gotten better. He put up some good numbers last year and you’ll hear some talk about his 4th quarter play and ability to comeback. To those people I have to say this, have you watched any game film from last year? The Redskins had the 2 worst tackles in the league. DE’s were already behind him and on him before he finished his 5 and 7 step dropbacks, and that is not and exageration. Campbell was running for his life and he knew it.
In 2008 under Jim Zorn, JC started off 6-2 and Ron Jaworski was calling Campbell the league MVP at the time. Unfortunately, we finished off 2-6. The reason for this was that year was Zorn’s first and their was no game film on the Redskins running his inept West Coast Offense that consisted all of about 8 plays and 2 of them were the field goal and fake field goal. By the time the 2nd half came around the other teams defenses were shooting fish in a barrel so to speak, it was just to easy and everyone had us figured out.
Installing Zorn and his offense was very bad for the Skins. They just didn’t have the personell and experience to make it look professional. While it was a setback for Campbell, I believe it made him that much stronger. The game plan was never installed around him just inserted to what Zorn wanted. Every QB in the NFL needs a plan around his skill set, not vice versa. Campbell had none of that the last 2 years.
Under Gibbs, Campbell at times looked very much like he should have and lets not all forget that he now is only 27 or 28 years old and in his prime. So all the knocks on him you hear from skins fans were coming from the, win right now or get out crowd and had no patience to let him develop. Another thing that hurt him in his years under Gibbs and is overlooked was the size of his best receivers. If I remember correctly, I don’t think any of them were even 6ft. tall. Sure, we were pulling guys off the street that were taller but that didn’t help him out as he was just getting his career off the ground.
Campbell is much faster than he appears because of his long strides, but his sliding is akward. He’s also bigger and stronger t
finishing off my post
He’s also bigger and stronger than he appears.
If the Raiders plan on embracing his strengths and don’t try to fit him around some pre determined view of who they want him to be instead of who he really is, then you will have the same challenges the Redskins had with him.
I look forward to watching him win games and giving the Raider fans something to cheer about. You will be suprised at how consistent he is.
Thank you for your addition to this post
As noontide said with what we’ve been through with JaMarcus, JC is not only a breath of fresh air but a savior, and that’s only if he’s average.
I think he fits our system well and if we can get the O Line straight, he will excel.
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Me
Thanks for the insight!
My question – How do you view him as a leader on the field? He looks like an average to better QB (which is better than we’ve had besides Grads) but the Raiders really need a leader on the field. Did he rallied the troops in Washington? I never saw that attribute in him but then again, I didn’t see every Redskins game.
2nd Coming Of Gannon/Hoss????
This guy reminds me of a Gannon/Hoss type….Not entirely because of his playing style or talents but because of his commitment to the game…They all have some of the same strengths like making something out of nothing with their feet and accuracy so if “JC” can become that emotional leader that Cannon/Hoss were our “O” will be just fine…His mobility has already taken some of the pressure off our still suspect “OL”…Remember the last 2 times we were successful was with mobility at the “QB” position in Gannon/Hoss and our "OL"s looked like they could go their jobs…
by PantyRaider on Apr 29, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Hoss may be a fair comparison
May lock onto a receiver too long and take some sacks, but plays hard and can deliver the ball. Campbell is more mobile than Hoss, though.
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I love mobile QB's. After watching that hippo get smashed over and over due to his lack
of moving skills, any QB that can evade the pass rush is welcomed.
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campbell an gradkowski
Starting either of the two Gradkowski or Campbell would be a great improvement over Fatboy russell, small laters for a reason the worse player in Raider history to have the nerve to wear the silver & black russell should be run out of town on a RAIL tar & featureddddddddd.
Gradkowski & Cambell
Let them compete in trianing camp for the starting job i think with russell gone but are a benefit to the Raiders Organization and will lead us to the play offs. Great job on defense.
Protection, protection, protection
Well, it sounds like if the offensive line can protection Campbell, he will be the answer to the QB problems. Although I think Gradkowski is up to the challenge also if he can stay healthy. Never hurts to have a couple of quality QB’s on the roster.
The more the better!
In my eyes, Grad is the textbook backup. He brings high energy, hard work and stays prepared.
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by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
If Campbell can get
3,600 yards for us, or something close, we got a shot at 9 wins.
Especially if our defense is brewing up some wickedness heretofore unseen.
This line gets me excited!
Especially if our defense is brewing up some wickedness heretofore unseen.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm with you
I love the concept, and I love good creative writing like that.
We must return to the “wickedness” of so many past great Raider defenses, but perhaps with some new twists…
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
The simple fact is that Campbell
has been a 4 year starter, whereas Gradkowski has only started a few games in the NFL.
Campbell has had more experience, is taller, stronger arm and apparently is a hard worker. In every category Campbell wins out over Gradkowski, and I like Gradkowski a lot, but he is not durable, has more trouble seeing over the oncoming rushing linemen etc.
I am elated with this acquisition, and although I don’t watch many Redskin games I don’t think he ever had the receivers the Raiders have at his disposal. The starting receivers in Oakland are all tall and fast. He worked well with Cooley the tight end, but Miller is every bit as good.
The Raiders took a short term loss last year starting two rookie receivers but that experience should pay off this year.
For the first time in many years there is some continuity in the Oakland coaching staff. Same defensive philosophy, and although the offensive coordinator is different, the basic philosophy will remain the same.
I have no idea who his quarterback coach was in Washington, but in Tollner the Raiders have a very respected QB coach. At least there is very little learning curve with Campbell.
Well reasoned and it's more likely that Campbell will start. Notwithstanding, Open Competition should be our policy.
Open Comp is best for team moral and gives us the best shot of winning each successive week.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 29, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you are articulating better than I am.
I expect Campbell to win as well but believe as you do that he competition has to be an open one. This team needs to be built that way.
Do you really think the offensive philosophy will remain the same, L?
I mean, assuming JC gets the nod at QB, and considering the coaching changes, aren’t we looking at a different offensive sensibility than with Russell at the helm (besides competence)?
"You been putting it up your whole life. You just didnt know it" Anton Chigurh
2nd The Emotions
We don’t want anyone to get soft n over comfortable here and let the lazies creep back in so competition is a great thing to have and it keeps everyone on their toes….Lookin over the shoulder…Besides…We need our back-ups with their heads in the game not sitting in boredom on the bench because they will never get the opportunity to compete…
Barring injury or freak circumstances
Campbell will most likely win the job in training camp/preseason. I think the Raiders told him he will probably be the starter, but he’s not a lock if he sucks. Unfortunately, Russell may still be around to take reps away from Jason and Bruce, but we’ll see on that front.
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Congrats to you guys
I must say that if i cheered for a team with Jamarcus Russell i would have been smashing my head against the wall. I think having Campbell come in legitimizes your team substantially. Best of luck to the Raiders (until you have to play the Saints, then its all Black and Gold).
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I don't see why he couldn't be the QB of the future.
Oakland’s got a lot of young talent on offense. If Jason Campbell has the season he had last year, Oakland could be at least a wild card team.
NFL.com
Jason LaConfora has a good write up on JC.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d817dd7e4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Good link! I am getting excited. Only 123 days until the Regular Season Opener!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome. Good video and an even better write up.
This season is gonna be off the hook, and I cant wait to see Houston and Ford in action.
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Trust me, you will like Campbell
I actually just created this account just to let the Silver & Black nation know what the deal is with Campbell (from a HUGE Skins fan that watches every game and actually pays attention). The only reason Campbell is not in DC is because Philly made the dumbest move in NFC East history by trading us a HOF QB in McNabb for a 2nd round pick (Kolb has 2 starts…WTF???). Even if we had drafted a QB in the 1st round, ANY of them would have sat behind Campbell this year. Last year Campbell threw for 20 TDs and has improved every year despite having a new coach or offensive system EVERY year he has been in the league. Our offensive line was pathetic at best, but Campbell fought hard and never quit. He works hard in the offseason and doesn’t eat lard with an ice cream scoop like Russell, who may be the biggest bust in the history of the NFL. Campbell’s got a great arm and he is VERY accurate, despite some comments to the contrary. Getting him for a 4th rounder in 2012 was an absolute steal, but if you look around the league, everyone was set at QB or was going to draft one, so Campbell was in a situation where he just didn’t fit in this year. Why? Because the expectation would be that he would compete for a starting job with most teams, and most teams don’t want the drama of a QB controversy. He is entering the prime of his career and I actually think this might be another one that comes back to bite the Skins (especially if McNabb has another injury this season). I expected the Skins to try to get Bradford or the pickle guy because we do dumb stuff all the time too in DC. Our owner was running our team into the ground (like yours) until Shanahan came to town. When we tried to trade to get that tool Cutler and then tried to move up to get Mark Sanchez last year, Campbell was the ultimate pro and had his best year behind an offensive line that couldn’t block ANYBODY. I wouldn’t be surprised if Campbell throws for 25 TDs this year. Best of luck to the Silver & Black and JC… and I guess even crazy Al can get lucky and have a solid QB fall in his lap to make him look smart. He needs it after picking the biggest failure of all time in Russell. If Davis and Cable have any sense, JR will be cut by mid-summer at the latest. The Raider Nation should send thank you cards to Andy Reid, because Campbell would still be wearing burgundy and gold this year if the Eagles hadn’t made such an idiotic move with McNabb. I guess competing for the Superbowl every year isn’t good enough for Philly, who have the worst fans in the league and drove out the best QB in the history of their franchise. That’s why you got Campbell, and you will be able to compete with him as your QB… guaranteed.
By the way...
I’m not even a big Campbell fan. These are just the facts.
Thank you for taking the time to set that out - it's an inspiring read. It comes down to the coaches more than anything now
because we have assembled some very good talent that can compete with any team. I do wish we had a NT and a proven OT – but this was going to take (realistically) 2 years to straighten-out and make all the necessary upgrades.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 29, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for stopping by.
We’re all real happy to have him here. Oakland is finally starting to make strides in the right direction and we have Washington to thank for that.
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I think its weird JC is older then grad
by 2 years 26(grad) 28(JC)
and the post says he hasn’t seen average accuracy i think Grad is above average with a pea shooter for an arm
I love Grad, but I don't like his below average accuracy.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Apr 29, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
In the sense of reality real men wear black!
Well said! I know that growing up in the hood is a previlage, but not an unfortunate ordeal! Deep in my heart when I see a man in his eyes, I can tell if he’s word worthy or if he’s got the guts to fight. As your apache bacon buds are right! this man here j-c will come to work and be able to lead the troops but ja-mucus he’s a punk ass bitch. He has no heart in that sense.
Hey guys, sorry for interrupting – I need your help – I’m writing a piece on the ages of offensive linemen in the NFL.
What is the most likely starting 5 along your OL for the upcoming season? For the best accuracy, I’d prefer to hear from you guys rather than trust my own opinions or an ESPN depth chart.
Thanks!
LT Mario Henderson 25
LG Robert Gallery 29
C Samson Satele 25
RG Langston Walker 31
RT Jered Velheer 22
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