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Rumor Mill: Lions Want to Trade No. 2 Pick in NFL Draft

On baseball's opening day, I came across a story concerning the second overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft that is currently held by the Detroit Lions. Rumors have been out there before, but there's nothing like a new report dealing with the same rumor.

The Lions have the second overall pick in this month's NFL Draft, but Gil Brandt of the NFL Network doesn't think they want to keep the selection.

Detroit could trade down to acquire at least one more pick in the draft.

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Now, this is particularly interesting to our Oakland Raiders. With the second overall pick at our disposal, possibilities are basically limitless. The St. Louis Rams seem pretty intent on drafting quarterback Sam Bradford out of the University of Oklahoma with the first pick. That really helps us out assuming we have the second overall pick since we're not in the market for a quarterback, or so it would seem. Don't put anything past Al Davis.

In 2009, the Raiders finished the season ranked 29th against the run. What's the position you'd more than likely most want to target if you want to stop the run? Defensive tackle would be that position and we'd in a position to draft either Ndamukong Suh out of the University of Nebraska or Gerald McCoy out of the University of Oklahoma. Many experts have not only rated those two as the top defensive linemen, they have also rated them as the top two players in all of the 2010 class.

Now, how do you acquire the second overall selection? Do we even want the second overall pick? I would want it, yes. What is the asking price? Well, the Lions ranked 32nd in the league last season in pass defense and we've heard cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha's name in trade talks before. I think the Lions would like to acquire a pick or two down the line and pick up somebody with the magnitude of an Asomugha to boost that horrific pass defense.

What say you, nation?

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If it meant acquiring the second overall pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, would you be willing to part ways with cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha?
Yes
584 votes
No
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No way.

Not for just a 2nd pick. Even if we got a NT that could stop the run. Everyone would just pick on Routt. Plus Al might just draft Taylor Mays with the 2nd pick since he lost Nnamdi.

by Micheal Y on Apr 5, 2010 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Heck No!

Suh is not worth trading Nnamdi for. I’d rather wait util the second round, where there will be some very good DT left over. Guys like Dan Williams, Brian Price, Jared Odrick, Terrence Cody, Lammar Houston, and other guys could be around. Some solid one’s like Linval Joseph might even be around on day 2. It is very very hard to find a shutdown cornerback of Nnamdi’s caliber, or even a number one cornerback in general, but with a deep DT draft like this, there is no need to trade for SUh.

by duballers23 on Apr 5, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

With Al making the pick

we would end up trading away our shutdown corner and draft someone way out of place that we could have had even with the number 8 pick.
I would only want to trade our number 8 pick to get more picks. although we had alot of picks last year and i think only Mitchell, Murphy and Shaus are left right?

by iBleedSnB on Apr 5, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

That's a loosing situation.

we loose a leader and veteran who has been great for this team, and replacing him for a rookie, presumably suh, and expect him to lead the DL, and expect someone else to lead the overall defense.

We loose too much in terms of morality.

by patriotguy2 on Apr 5, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope

We should trade down and get more picks and /or established players. Fuck #2. We dont need to sign another bloated rookie contract.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 5, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Its sounds good having two top ten picks, but......

wouldn’t it depend on who was drafted with those 2 picks? I mean it is fun to consider, but I wouldn’t test the waters and hope two rookies pan out immediately. Who knows though, sometimes this is what you have to do to build a team.

If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

by Parental Advisory on Apr 5, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Not Nnamdi. Not today, tomorrow, or ever, imo

I know others will say the run defense is priority, but I disagree with letting go one of the best players to ever play a position, especially since all you really have to do as far as D backs are concerned is get a corner to complement him.

Trading down is the right thing to do, not up out of 8 to 2 for someone as valuable as the awesome one. Stockpile 2nds and 3rds with our number 8 or get a 1st rounder for next year. The number 2 spot will just guarantee one thing: an astronomical price tag for an unproven player.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Apr 5, 2010 1:35 PM PDT reply actions  

+1

Totally! Dont we have enough over-priced talent on our team? Taking #2 will be a HUGE financial hit.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 5, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

One condition and one condition only

And that is if we don’t swap picks with the Lions, but end up with the #2 and #8 overalls.

Something like this:

Nnamdi and a 7th rounder

for

The #2 overall and a 6th rounder

Would be something you’d at least have to consider. Don’t know if I’d do it, but it’d be worth a discussion. Anything less than that would be laughable.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Apr 5, 2010 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

No thank you

If one of those guys falls, then ya you draft them, but you don;t give your best player to the Lions to move up six spots and give them more picks on top of that. Silliness

Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!

by B.A.Armstrong on Apr 5, 2010 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I've changed my mind on this one and would not give up Asomugha for any draftee on the board

He sets a high standard for the entire team. I’m as impressed with his tackling as with his coverage – he’s a sure thing and as much as I like Suh, there are several DTs that can help us a lot without having to pay with our very best. No deal.
However, I would offer Detroit our 2nd and 3rd round picks for Suh.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 5, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe not a bad trade consideration if it guaranteed us "the house of spears"

and compensatory picks would be in effect as well, I’m sure; what if Bucky Brooks prediction of Suh falling to us at 8 happened? Yeah, I don’t think so, either.

What if he was there for us and, we took Taylor Mays instead? D’oh! Why do I do it to myself? It was about this point last year I was thinking we were def going wideout, and that since Crabtree was going to be taken by our pick, I was thinking Maclin would be the most likely guy, then when Crabtree was still there, my line of thinking ignored the predictions about the track star of the group, and the guy we got…

I’m planning on Thursday being a day I’ll wish never happened; I’m hoping Friday and Saturday will make up for them, at least as much as they can anyway, at least to ease the pain of the initial kidney punch from which we’ll be pissing blood.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Apr 5, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aw dude!

You just drove spike into my balls. I can only pray it can be helped by hearing about JaTalentlessLardo be set free before April 14. I do get the feeling that we will be taking a DB first.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 5, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al would never give away the best corner in his prime

Forgt even thinking about it, even woodson had a ton of injuries before he gave him up.

I even cum Black & Silver...

by Tramp "Raider Roxxxtar" on Apr 5, 2010 3:02 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Nnamdi goes NOWHERE!!

I would find it very hard to give up a budding Superstar like Nnamdi now. I could not do it for the second pick in the draft…or anythign close.

by Rj Souza on Apr 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I've said yes before & am not going to change my mind now.

It’s not like we’ve been successful with the way things are run now. Also you never hear about Nmamdi trying to restructure his contract to help sign more valuable free agents to the team either or alow us to resign Seymour to a long-term contract instead of some ridiculous franchise tag $$. Although the only reason I say no to the trade would be because good ol’ Al is crazy enough to trade up to pick someone like Campbell or Tebow & we end up losing picks as well.

by TAW on Apr 5, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted Yes.

I have fallen in love with Kong Suh. Nnamdi is 31 years old( I think) and is going into the last year of his contract. He’s been great, but the next great thing is in this draft. And if it means giving up Nnamdi, Im willing to.

But! If Detroit just wants extra picks. Lets just trade our 1st and 3rd and 6th.

In Bruce We Trust

by Remix. on Apr 5, 2010 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Remix, I suffered your same mad-Kong passion but watched more game film of both (Suh and Asomuga) and it's the

difference between watching George Foreman and Mohammad Ali. They both get the job done but Asomugha does it with beauty and Suh, well, it isn’t so beautiful. Recall those wise words of the great neoplatonist, “If it’s beautiful, it’s true.” Plotinus
Asomugha’s football is true (football). He defines CB and must remain among us.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 5, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suffered? Im not suffering from this haha

Suh is unstoppable, and pairing him next to Seymour, Kelly and Shaughnessy/Scott would just bring the best out of everybody.

If there is any way to keep both, then I would make that trade. I mean, Id trade Thomas Howard rather than Nnamdi.

In Bruce We Trust

by Remix. on Apr 5, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh please!

Wouldnt we all rather trade Howard than Nnamdi?

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 5, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Better to give up Nnamdi than Howard? Is his beauty so wonderful.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 6, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

False dicotomy. Give up neither. If we could package Routt, Lawton, Williams, Kelly and Seymour

we’d be eliminating unseemly play, save a barrel of money, and could upgrade those positions. Kelly and Seymour are not just the most overpaid starters on our roster – they are past their prime, in the twilight of their careers, dead weight – a couple of duds.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 6, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok +1

I agree get rid of those duds but where can we find such a Gm in a permanent drunken stupor that would take such a group of burnouts burdened with talentless add ons? Matt Millen please pick up the white courtesy phone and encourage another NFL GM to make such a trade. Oh and please add in that sack of gravy grease JaPankcakeBatterEater too.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 6, 2010 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think...

a trade possibility to get their pick would be our #8, morrison, and a 4th.

by patriotguy2 on Apr 9, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i have been saying this for a long time. lions want out of the 2nd pick

this is no rumor , but fact. the lions do want out because they have already put out alot of money for there qb last year. i would love to see the raiders give them our 2nd pick, #39 and package a player and another draft pick. the players would be rhoutt,branch or someone in the db’s except asomaugh. i would also keep our 8th pick with that idea.

by sports with steve on Apr 5, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

No MORE Draft Talks.

Please…I’m tired of speculating. We know who we want..we just need to HOPE AND PRAY that it is what AL WANTS.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Apr 5, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

i would do something like that with aso next year so we would have a chance at drafting ryan mallett or jake locker.

by p.g on Apr 5, 2010 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Mallett

He performed well in a conference with the toughest defenses. He’s certainly the number two quarterback prospect as of right now.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 5, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

#2 pick

is going to cost a freaking fortune! Ford is a cheap bastard, that’s why he wants to trade it. We need to sit still, and draft in our place, then actually keep the players.

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Apr 5, 2010 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

These are sober words that should be heeded

Suh may not be that much better than Dan Williams or Brian Price. The Suh fever that took hold of me has passed and clarity has taken its place.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Apr 6, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who Would Pay The Price

Nice talk but that’s really all it is…Who would sacrifice their 2nd pick in this draft for our “CB” who is on the last yr of his contact and prolly slipping towards the end of his productive career…Not speaking bad about Nnamdi at all but they would want our pick plus a player and that’s not at all a worthwhile price to pay for any top speculated player….And if they need the “DB” so bad why wouldn’t they just go after the top “S” or “CB” in this draft…Both projected to be top players at their positions…

The 2nd pick would cost us the #8 + our 2nd rd or 3rd-n-4th rd selections…They would be moving down 6 positions in the 1st rd and that’s expensive…Teams pay high to move up only 3-4 steps…6 steps would be very costly indeed…

by PantyRaider on Apr 5, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

an amusingly stupid and worthless article

you have nothing better to do but conjecture? take up a fantasy league or post to a forum with the retards. Your drivel has no value at all.

by Al's Wingman on Apr 5, 2010 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Neither does yours.

There is nothing to write about this time of year except conjecture.

Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!

by SBcitizen on Apr 5, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

HA

Do you have nothing better to do than insult RRS posts?

In Bruce We Trust

by Remix. on Apr 6, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations

You’re the self-proclaimed “wingman” of the worst general manger and owner in all of sports of the past seven years. I feel your bitterness. If you must attack my posts, go right ahead. I’m glad this one didn’t involve an attack on my personal life, however. Since this attack was posted before the other one on the Jason Campbell rumor mill post, you’ve regressed considering that one included a personal attack. Step it back up, please.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 6, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice

You are so insightful. Please give us some of your enlightened mussings and overwhelm us with your intelligence. I remember all of those post you made that we all rec’d………….oh wait you dont do anything but throw conjecture around yourself and obviously cant put together a semblance of a well writen or thought out post that we would all want to read much less waste our finger typing energy on commenting on.

Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Apr 6, 2010 5:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

2 words F#CI( NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

We are 1 quartberback away from being a .700 team. Dont change anything but the man under center. We dont need some rookie either (Clausen) I say pick up campbell from washington and draft the best Offensive Lineman!!!

I mean look at it this way we won 5 games and with some help at QB we could have won another 4. Your talking about One of the worst offenses in NFL history.

by WhizisanIdiot! on Apr 6, 2010 3:27 AM PDT reply actions  

How about...

Our second rounder and Kirk Morrison for Detroit’s 1st? Too bad Millen ain’t there anymore. We could take Suh and the best OT left on the board. Then cut Russell the celebrate. WOOO! Who am I kidding? Bring in the next bust and let’s have a look at him.

by golfswithglock on Apr 6, 2010 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

1st rounder and kirk

there is no way they’ll wait to till the second round to get good talent. They need great talent in the 1st to help them out. Maybe pick up joe haden on the 8th.

by patriotguy2 on Apr 9, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd trade Routt

for a can of pabst blue ribbon

"We can't stop here... This is bat country."

by Kwester421 on Apr 8, 2010 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

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