KA1Z3R's Impressions on First Raiders Practice
I just felt like posting a very brief summary on my thoughts and feelings from what I've read of the first day of practice. It's pretty short and unorganized so bare with me.
Campbell vs. Russell
First off, I fully expect Campbell to be the starter this season, but, for right now Russell is definitely impressing me. Now while his feats in a non-contact and often undefended practice don't amount to much, he did do pretty horrible around this time last year in the same scenario.
Now i definitely hate Russell, he's right up there on my most hated list of NFL players with LT, Rivers, Cutler, Chad Johnson (I refuse to call him ochocinco), T.O, Romo, etc. But if he Russell fairly wins the job, then I want him starting. You have to put your personal opinions aside and say, I want the best for my team.
However, Campbell struggled, but not as bad as I thought he would. He's learning a new scheme, in a new environment, with new receivers and teammates. It will be a lengthy process for him. He's had a consistent chemistry with a consistent group of receivers in Moss, Randle El, and Cooley. Now he has to get used to so many new names and faces.
Campbell did manage to complete some bizarre and awkward passes. Jerry McDonald said he was throwing lame duck passes that were still getting completed, even in 7-on-7. He also is reported as being surprisingly fast. I knew he was a mobile quarterback already, but he is astonishing several media members attending the practice.
If Campbell builds chemistry (which with his attitude and work ethic I fully expect), then I truly believe he could be a very solid QB for us.
Campbell at guard
Do people forget why Campbell was considered a first round talent by many? A lot of fans seem to be against him at guard because he's quote: "A finesse pass blocker who was terrible at run blocking"
If I remember my film correctly, Campbell was a great run blocker who used sheer power and who's pass blocking and technique were in question. As a backup right guard, I'm excited to see Campbell's capabilities inside. Especially in the ZBS which focuses on run blocking.
If anything, this is the perfect place and position for him to develop and play. He can use his specialty of run blocking to the fullest while gradually working on his pass blocking. From there he could stay at guard, or become a solid tackle option.
At the very least, he will be one hell of a run blocker for the Raiders inside.
Receivers looking good finally
DHB dropping passes, Murphy dropping passes, JLH running routes improperly, these were thing we heard last year. This year we see DHB dropping only 2 horribly thrown passes, Ford making a huge TD catch, Murphy catching everything (pray his injury is minor).
I expect DHB to play a lot better this year after a full offseason of working on his game with a competent guy throwing at him in Gradkowski. Murphy and Schilens (whenever Schilens stops feeling "general soreness") should build on last year and be a good starting duo.
I am however interested to see if both JLH and Ford might be kept. I consider Ford to be stealing away JLH's job (let's face it, that's why he's here). Ford is already doing better, but JLH isn't doing too bad out there. He's doing a decent job, and I'd like him as a #5 receiver as backup and backup return man if needed.
Scott-McClain-Wimbley
The starting linebacking corps so far. I actually like it. Wimbley and Scott are fast and athletic enough to do fine in coverage (though nice to see Howard sticking around to be a coverage specialist) But from this set we get big run stoppers and all three are regarded as great blockers.
Meanwhile we have depth in howard, Brown, and Goethel with developmental guys in Boyd and Norris. Linebacker finally feels like a strength for the first time in a long time. Unfortunately, it's a long wait to see if this unit is truly good or not.
Overall i thought we saw a good first practice, long time since I could say that with confidence. Though I do wonder who the mystrey #36 is that JMac was saying was amazing in coverage. If anyone knows who it is, please tell me
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You should watch your B. Campbell film again.
He was terrible at run blocking for someone of his size and strength. He would almost always rely on a cut block and never would get more than one block a play. He should be using his power to either knock the D-lineman on his ass or out of position and then race up field (with his speed he can do it) to make at least one more block. His pass blocking had little technique. He was always too high, anticipates the speed rush too much leaving the inside wide open, and his foot work leaves a lot to be desired. His pass blocking simply relies on engaging and hoping to be stronger than the rusher.
With that said, all his faults are teachable and are mostly because of his lack of experience as he has only started a handful of games. His upside is scary if he can learn some technique and utilize his size, strength and speed properly.
On the DHB front I’m really excited. Jerry McD said he only dropped TWO passes and both were very difficult (one was overhead and one was at his feet).
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
Zone blocking which is what Cable implemented does utilize the cut block quite a bit though.
I think Campbell might actually contribute quite a bit this year.
That number 36 is some guy from Montana State that has been around the NFL since 2004.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 1, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
Joey Thomas?
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on May 1, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Coulda been on IR or on a team and didn't play
therefore he has no stats for those seasons. It does seem a little weird though.
by KiwiRaiderFan on May 2, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The mystery man is unmasked...kind of.
Did you find a list of all of FA’s and UDFA’s?
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by Rich Langford on May 1, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Today’s practice is over. I don’t know if there will be another one, but here’s everything Jerry McDonald had to say.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 1, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
Great Post Kaiz
Keep it coming. I was happy about DHB developing, but I am again sad that murphy is hurt, what happened?
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That Michael Bennet is in camp also, the RB.
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I'm not going to belive
any of the Russel stories until I see this guy for myself.
It should throw up a red flag that he waits until right before he is cut to start trying. Even if he puts in the work, he will more than likely stop when he starts to experience some success. This guy realized the paychecks were about to stop, so he decided to start trying. Sounds like some bullshit to me.
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by Kwester421 on May 1, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
He looked huge in that picture next to Campbell who looks like an actual QB. I believe is in the 270 range reported previously from that picture.
Please git rid of this fat expensive shit stain before he fakes an injury.
i hope our WR's do it this year
im not impressed by jamarcus, he still who he is; and i wont become a fan unless he compares to peyton manning in a raider uniform. Jason campbell was there for the first time soo its ok to struggle a bit, its common it was first pract with news team, new system, new plays. Lastly im confident our defense is set, we are good….i hope our oline wil e ready and our young guys catching the ball live up to the potential im really rooting for DHB this year
DMac
is key and will make everyone around him better just by being on the field. So he needs to be on the field at any position. Also who did Brandon Myers get in a scuffle with?
Lamarr Houston just got into a minor scuffle with Langston Walker. Earlier, Rock Cartwright was not happy about hitting the turf courtesy of Houston without pads.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 1, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
What about DMAC and Veldherr?
I didn’t hear anything about them courious as to how they plan to use Veldherr and who is supposed to play LT?
Fan is short for fanatic, so I guess I'm a supporter......realisticoptimist
by realisticoptimist on May 1, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions
Day 2 notes on the last practice still going on:
- JaMarcus Russell was intercepted by Walter McFadden right after Rolando McClain picked off Jason Campbell as the wind was really picking up then.
- Stanford Routt was getting burned deep by Johnnie Lee Higgins and Paul Hubbard.
- Darrius Heyward-Bey caught a deep outside pass from Jason Campbell, but then he dropped a really easy pass from Kyle Boller.
- Al Davis made a brief appearance.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 1, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
The QB competition seems to be in favor of russel apparently.
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Once they get down to real business and kick off the rust, Russell is going to get beat bad by Jason and Bruce.
now, we don't know that. As much as I think russel is worthless, we have to give them all an equal chance.
russel started to look good right away, if he beats campbell in camp, there’s a reason for it.
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I’m giving everybody a fair chance, but we pretty much know that Russell is not legit. Haven’t you noticed that they say Russell looks sharp every year in camp. Practice when guys don’t hit you is a lot different from games. I hope he keeps it up, but he hasn’t kept it up before with our team.
According to Ka1z3r, he did horrible last year in camp.
plus you can say the same thing to campbell. “Practice when guys don’t hit you is a lot different from games.” They are both practicing in the same circumstances,, and russel is outperforming him. But since it’s campbell’s first year in our playbook, I don’t exactly expect a spectacular performance out of him right away. But if campbell doesn’t perform as good as russel, I think we know who should start.
Don’t let russel’s past performance judge his performance this year. You never know what can happen. I doubt KA1Z3R himself never thought russel would perform very well in camp on saturday.
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I'm saying don't put much if anything at all into this minicamp. It really means nothing but kicking off the rust and learning the playbook. Just like Cable said, this minicamp has no effect on roster spots.
According to Cable, minicamp does have effect on roster spots. Quote:
I told the team, no one is going to get a job or earn a job on this team between now and the end of June. What you can do, is A: you can get yourself cut because you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re not working hard. And B: you can prepare yourself to go to camp and to earn a job.
by Sons-of-Blanda on May 1, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
or, he feels threatened by campbell, and is trying to be better than him.
i know what you mean though, but we should acknowledge the fact that russel is performing better now in camp, than any of the QBs on our roster. Will he be better at training camp, or the pre-season? Will he be better at those than Campbel? Who knows.
That’ all we can say right now: russel is performing very well in camp. You can make your accusations on what he’ll most likely look like in the future, but you don’t truly know that. Unless you have the ability to look into the future, which will basically require you to see through tangent universes.
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he didn't perform so well yesterday, and Campbell emerged as the best of our QBs
I think JR tends to relax a bit too much when praised, and the praise was excessive.
by Spirals galore on May 2, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
...and unwarranted
Just because he performed better than last year doesn’t say much. If my speculation is correct – that JR reacts to praise by slacking off – keeping his motivation high may be an arduous and ultimately futile task.
by Spirals galore on May 2, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Spirals: I wasn't using his last year's performance in the season.
TAW: Campbell is performing without pads as well. And since Russel is doing better than Campbell in mini camp, it says something.
Also, I want to point out that he looked ‘very good’ in mini camp, and campbell didn’t. If he continues to look better than campbell, in ALL the camps, wouldn’t you want him to start?
ALL I SAID WAS, was that we don’t REALLY know who would win the QB competition. We have ideas, but we truly DON’T KNOW. That russel is looking GOOD in mini camp. THAT’S ALL I SAID! You think I’m REALLY gonna sit here and say: “He’s gonna start, because he’s doing well in MINI CAMP?” PLEASE!
So far russel is doing very well in “mini camp.” We’ll see how he does in the other camps and pre-season.
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Also, I want to point out that he looked ‘very good’ in mini camp, and campbell didn’t. If he continues to look better than campbell, in ALL the camps, wouldn’t you want him to start?
Well, the point I made was that JR’s best performance was on Friday, after which he faded (see Jerry McDonald’s post-camp notes today). Campbell, in turn, didn’t do well on Friday but steadily improved afterwards.
The remark about JR’s performance last year as a factor in evaluating his performance on Friday was not directed at you, Patriotguy.
by Spirals galore on May 2, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, well never mind then about that.
If any of the QBs start, I hope they get the job done.
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by Spirals galore on May 2, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
yep. Russel is slowing down.
I didn’t say he won the whole thing too. I said that he had a better practice than campbell did, and that was aimed at the day that he did do better.
Now campbell seems to be awesome. :)
I hope DHB turns out all right.
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so Thomas Howard isn't starting for you guys anymore?
i thought he was a beast, young and talented. Any reason why he got demoted? we would’ve loved him over here in NYC, that’s for sure.
Can't shed blocks, fast though, good on coverage. Sucks at sheding blocks so he can be taken away to become a non-factor on some plays.
Note that we promoted Scott a pass rush specialist DE to Howards former spot because he can shed blocks, then its Wimbley a former DE also, and McClain the guy we stole from u guys. Those are basically our starters right now :)
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wasn't Wimbley a bust in Clev. though?
At least that’s what i remember reading on there site after the trade. never lived up to his first round billing, yada yda. So is Howard more of a Will in a 4-3? It’s funny, the two LB’s (Howard and Morrison)we got into arguments over on BBV on your team are either traded for peanuts, or benched.
wasn’t Wimbley a bust in Clev. though?
He had about 7 sacks last year.
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by golden_solitude on May 1, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess he is a bust a DE, didn't they draft him as a DE? im not sure either....
Well he is small for that position, and since he lacks technique to take on a OT…But as an OLB i think he’ll be aight, especially if our front four battle out the opposing teams O-linemen he should shoot through gaps and get sacks. Plus I like the fact that he is just as athletic and closely as fast as Howard only bigger and buffer.
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Got a trade idea, Thomas Howard (OLB) for Osi Umenyiora(DE) up front. (then we'll convert him to OLB) would you pull trigger?
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We don't run 3-4 why wouldn't he play DE?
he’s not that fast and im sure he doesn’t have coverage skills to be an OLB in a 4-3
he won't do well I think.
idk why. but also consider this:
1) Osi never played 3-4 OLB
2) Osi is injury prone now.
3) He’ll cost money, and I don’t think he’ll do very well in coverage.
Plus, this was kind of like the situation where rumors were circulating that the pats were to get pepper. Nope.
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Agreed
altho he is fast raiderfan21, he has all the coverage skills of a defensive end. which is why he’s a….defensive end! hehehe
i would love a chance to have another young backer on the squad but i don’t think the trade would bode out well for your side.
He's still pretty beastly
But were trying out some new schemes and what not right now
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by $73.27 on May 1, 2010 9:55 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Body Catch
The only TD DHB caught last year got through his hands and into his body. His supporters keep overlooking his inability to catch the ball exclusively with his hands
I’m still distressed about Russell. I don’t care how he looks in mini camp. He not only stole money from Al Davis, but also from the fans last year by being overweight and unprepared. I just don’t want him on the team and won’t buy a ticket to watch him.
on the topic of DHB: Yes he has a problem catching the ball with his body, but it is nice to read that he is making more catches right now without hearing anything of him catching with is body.
Is he still dropping some easy ones? Yes. And I expect that. Really this is what I consider his rookie year. Last year’s draft he was considered raw even for an NFL rookie receiver who already takes upwards of 4 years to develop. Now we get a guy who should have stayed another year, so I put his development at 5 years. First year we got results I expected.
Trouble catching and issues with route-running, issues his coaches at Maryland said he would have, but he was fast enough that the defense had to account for him in much a way teams do with McFadden. No matter how poorly McFadden or DHB plays, teams still dont want to look foolish getting beat by them for a big score or gain.
Even if DHB continues struggling, he will still open things up for the running game, Miller, Murphy, Schilens, and a man who’s even faster in Jacoby Ford.
Overall, DHB should get around 15 or 16 catches this year. He’ll more than likely be the #4 receiver option because of the rising talent in Schilens and Murphy and the quick-to-adapt Jacoby Ford.
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Quit making excuses for DHB not living up to his pay grade.
Anquan Boldin caught 90 passes as a rookie who was a QB in college. He needs to step up big time or else he is going to be another Al Davis bust.
Boldin, like some, are exceptions to this rule. DHB is a project for the Raiders. We have guys who are succeeding now at a decent level in Murphy, Schilens, and Miller, but DHB is being developed to be the next DeSean Jackson.
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I can see him as a DeShaun Jackson.
I hope he improves on his route running skills though… And it seems that he SLIGHTLY improved his hands, but I don’t think that’s enough.
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hes alot taller than Jackson is
so thats always nice.
Tommy Kelly's ass won us that game against Denver!
Eh, I don't care about height much.
as long as he develops hands and route running, then I’m fine.
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From Jerry McDonald today
DHB drops shallow cross from Campbell. Cable told us we ‘d be amazed by his progress. It’s been less than amazing
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maybe he'd rather have Grad throwing it to him.
sometimes that’s the case.
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yes it is, but sometimes certain QBs who have different throwing mechanics help certain receivers more.
But you are right, that would be a stupid excuse.
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