Under the Microscope: WR Chaz Schilens
by B.A.Armstrong on May 16, 2010 7:40 AM PDT
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PrintChaz Schilens is 6'4", 225 lbs and runs a 4.38 40 yard dash with a 43" vertical jump. He has tremendous potential and made a name for himself at the end of the 2008 season for Raider Nation catching two TD's in the last two games. He became a starter in Week 9 of 2008, opposite of Javon Walker, but injuries hampered him until late in the season. This guy has all the intangibles to be a dominant force in the Raiders passing game. I expect him to be that hard-to-stop player, and catch at least 70 passes, 8-10 TD's, and at least 900 receiving yards if he can stay healthy in 2010.
Chaz Schilens may be the next Marques Colston. A seventh-round draft pick with great size, good hands, and Raider speed out of a low profile college; Schilens played his college ball at San Diego State, Colston played at Hofstra.
Chaz Schilens is widely considered to be the best WR currently on the Oakland roster. A broken foot left him out of the first half of the 2009 season for Oakland, but over the final 8 games of the year, he did manage 29 catches and two touchdowns, finishing the year with an eight catch, 99 yard performance against a stingy Baltimore Ravens defense.
With his 29 catches for 365 yards, he matched about 80 percent of Louis Murphy's 34 receptions for 531 yards in only half as many games. Any quarterback would develop a fondness for the massive pass catcher from San Diego State. The coaching staff has raved about his performance thus far in his young career and it's been said that he didn't drop a single pass in the team's practices prior to the season in 2009.
Chaz Schilens will impact the passing game tremendously. He knows how to get into a position to fight for the ball. The Oakland QB's will know they can count on the big receiver. They will know if Zach Miller is covered, then Schilens is another option...another element. Combined with Louis Murphy, Miller and Schilens would be much more dangerous.
I say that Chaz adds a whole different element to the passing game; that Chaz Schilens is an experienced wide receiver who knows how to read coverage's as well or better than any other 3rd year wide receiver in the league. He knows how to find lanes for quarterbacks to throw the ball. He knows how to re-direct his route to get open in space.
With Schilens on the field with Zach Miller, and with QB Jason Campbell being so effective in the red-zone (18 of his 20 TD passes were in the red-zone in 2009), the Raiders are going to be very dangerous in the red-zone this year. Throw Michael Bush into that equation and it begins to look unfair.
Schilens is a factor in the exterior blocking game for Oakland as well. He has been responsible for several key blocks that have sprung Raiders runners. He has made his living thus far making tough catches in crowds of people. He is known for making tough plays on under thrown balls like when he made a spectacular play on a ball that was severely underthrown in the first preseason game of 2009. His play at the ball was so convincing that he garnered a 54 yard pass interference call in his favor. Chaz Schilens is an impact player.
I don't know about the rest of Raider Nation, but I'm excited to see what the guy can do in his third year of pro football. My only fear is that injury bug that keeps getting the best of him and that goes back to his days in college, thus the reason why he only achieved seventh round status. However, Schilens is one of those late round steals that the Raiders seem to be keen on grabbing in recent drafts.
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At the moment, I have to give it to Lois Murphy.
The guy has made some spectacular catches last year, and was our most efficient receiver. He blocks very well, and he has above average route running. But the plays he made for us, I think he deserves it.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
Im not sure how he was more efficient
He had his fair share of easy drops
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Why do people get all pissed off when you say something that they don't agree with that isn't all flowers and sunshine? People take this type of stuff too seriously
He was more efficient because he played longer than Chaz..
If both played equal amounts, Chaz would’ve doubled Louis’ stats.
In Bruce We Trust
maybe. I'm pretty sure he will.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
Schillens clearly is the best now
but so far injury prone. You cannot compare other guys who were rookies, there is a big jump from rookies to 2 or 3 year players, they learn to run routes, read defenses etc.
We really cannot know how good or bad they are until they have a QB that can throw the ball to them. Hopefully, this year we will find out.
When a receiver runs a bad route and an interception ensues, the QB gets blamed but in fact it is the fault of the receiver. Maybe this year we will find out how good or bad they really are.
Schillens cant clearly be the best because hes been injury prone we
havent really seen what he can do. right now id have to say murphy for the shear effort he put in(especially with such a bad qb) schillens has the potential but for now id say murphy.
Injuries
You have to be on the field to be a weapon and make plays. I like Schilens but he has got to be on the field. another injury plagued year from him and hes just taking up a roster spot.
Schillens is becoming injury prone
This guy has the skills but the past years has become unreliable. One year he couldn’t even get out of training camp because of an injury. I would like to see him stay healthy this year otherwise it’s time to get another receiver. Jacoby Ford may be the guy if he comes on this year. It depends on who Jason Campbell has the most chemistry with.
The comparison is similar to the JC / Grad debate. On the one hand, we have Thoroughbreds in Schilens and Campbell
on the other, Lions in Bruce and Louis. From a top-end perspective, I’d give it to Chaz – he has the talent to be an elite NFL receiver. But, Louis actually stayed healthy, added the selfless blocking dimension and produced consistently – especially in dire critical times. So, based on history (and not potential) I voted for Murphy – but expect Chaz to surpass Louis and become the next remarkable Raider WR.
Thank you, BAA, for a solid & upbeat post
by Sons-of-Blanda on May 16, 2010 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
It is similar to the Grad/JC debate in that...
if everyone is healthy Schillens and Campbell are the clear cut starters :)
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by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I do agree with your view on Murph...
I love his intagibles and clutchness. He should only benefit by having a whole year of real QB play.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
A scowl disfigured my face when I read your 'clear cut starter' remark re Campbell
Btw Murph & Chaz it’s close to a toss up – a win win for us.
by Sons-of-Blanda on May 17, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Let's just hope we get to see them on the field together a lot this year.
A WR with slow healing foot problems is worrisome.
I think Chaz is a more dependable option at this point because of his hands and route running, but this should be ways that Murphy improves from year one to year two.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Chaz is easily our best...No one really compares talent wise, and I expect him to possibly even
make the Pro Bowl is our O-line can block..Good Post BAA
In Bruce We Trust
murphy
I got to go with him he’s a hard worker and I see him making a jump in terms of production this year. I love chaz but I need to see him put it together for a full year. He has the poetential to be great but his injury problems are a major concern.
I see a jump in production from Murphy as well.
If we invest in more playing time for Murphy, I think we’ll get more on our return than any of the others.
I’d like to see what the new guy Ford can do.
Love me some Chaz, but gotta give the edge to Louis right now
and also project Louis to be the emerging leader this season. He’s got heart like Rudy Rudiger, and skills like a young Jerry Rice, with better size and strength. Throw in that he’s worked very hard on his route running, and will begin his first season no longer a rookie.
All ranking aside, I absolutely love the upside of the wr CORPS, we will field this season. Throw in McFadden in motion, guys like Jacoby Ford and Nick Miller in the occasional slot or motion, and we’ll cause defenses nightmares, no doubt.
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Talent wise Chaz hands down, but because he cant stay on the field Louis Murphy
Chaz is the number WR on our roster he has the body of the WR you would want in your team the speed and hands but he has been plagued with injuries, Murphy though is tough works hard and stays healthy, from what i’ve seen. But we are a better team with Chaz on the field, if he stays healthy all season we can have a top passing game
i would be extremely surprised
we dont have the Oline or the WR’s, Zach would have 1000 yards before DHB would
rob
no chance that happenns….
1) our best receiver is our tight end. miller will be our leading pass catcher/yds at year end.
2) murphy is a decent wr but i dont think a 1000yd wr
3) schillens is the only wr w/ a legit chance.
4) our -o-line is suspect
5) dhb, ford, jlh, et all. Not a snowballs chance in hell
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on May 16, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct
Campbell threw for 3600+ yards last year with a line as bad or worse that Oakland’s. The Raider’s passing game has been horrible because of QB play not line play.
by Mallard Davis on May 17, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm thinking three to five more wins
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Difficult to pick between Murphy and Schillens
When Schillens is on the field he is the best WR we have. The key here is when he is on the field. He has to prove this year that he can stay healthy, if not, then I don’t think he’ll be around much longer.
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I have to go with murphy
He is a hard worker, right after the draft the guy wants to know when he can use the training facilities to prepare for his rookie season.
It's 117 days until football season. We got a new quatrerback, half a wr corp, it"s dark and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hit it!
If I could rec your picture 5 times myself, I would.
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by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
3000?
That’s a big jump from where we were last year i’d be extremly surprised if that was to happen. I see miller as the only person on the team with over 1000 but I could see chaz and murph being in that 750 7 td range and I would be esstatic with that.
We Forget
It has been years since the Raiders have had overall productive play from the offense we forget what normal numbers are. If a QB goes 15 – 25 and averages 225 yard per game, they would have 3600 yards. Spreading the ball around to six receivers including TE and backs each could have over 500 yards. These number are not out of the unexpected for a decent QB.
Schilens is the corps veteran leader. He tells the receivers what to do, and what not to do and I have seen him chewing out DHB and Murphy after plays. He doesn’t have the salt on his beard that you would expect from a veteran leader, but that’s what he is.
He leads by example, and he leads through teaching. Miller does his work quietly and so does Schilens, only Schilens will get loud if you do your work wrong.
That alone makes him the “team’s” best receiver.
Individually thinking, Schilens is still the best. Size, speed, the savvy of a veteran. he has everything you could want. He would be elite if he could get more opportunities, meaning less injuries and better passing.
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+100
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 16, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
If DHB Can Contribute
This could be a nice receiving corp if DHB makes any contributions this year.With 2 seasons under his belt The Cable guy should have the oline in order by now and with a capable QB in place I have good thoughts about this season.We now have some serious weapons with some experience and they should be ready to roll.We all know Zack will be ready but the most interesting thing in camp will be which WR steps up but just think how cool it would be if Chaz,Murphy,and DHB all step up this year.
If there were some kind of guaranty that Chaz would stay healthy in 2010
I would be excited about our receieving corps. But there are no guarantees (didn’t he already miss mini camp?) and foot injuries are likely to reoccur, therefore I think we need a decent free agent veteran receiver. Look at the Raiders list of receivers and if you subtract Chaz it looks pretty thin and very unproven.
by Oceanside Raider on May 16, 2010 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
missed mini-camp because he was recovering from surgery to get his foot back to normal (they basically just used a temporary fix on it so he could play, he complained of soreness for the rest of the year). Now he more than likely won’t injure it, and play better because of it.
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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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It was probably a random fan of another team scouring the blog.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 16, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Miller?
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It is already tomorrow in Australia
“Hey, Nick is my first name, too!”
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 17, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Chaz is better when healthy
Louis is better after the catch. Chaz is better just getting open and securing the catch. Overall Chaz when healthy is the better WR.
Chaz is our best WR.....right now.
But Louis Murphy is our most consistent and will continually develop into our best receiver as the season progresses. I’m not too confident Schilens will be able to stay healthy, but he’s definitely one of our most physically gifted players.
well i gotta say id rather have murphy on the field playing his ass off then chaz being
“better” than him on the side line.
I just watched the Highlights
Half of the catches Chaz had were diving forward because Jacarcus has no accuracy. Chaz dove on every single ball that Russell through to him….He definitely has the intangibles to be a really good receiver I just hope he stays healthy.
As for Murphy he has swagger yes, but he did some rookie things last year and he has come a long way. I like how he doesn’t back down. He is a pest and one of those guys that you love when he is on your team, but you would hate his guts if he played for the other guys.
DHB…..I still get pissed talking about him, especially when would we could have gotten Maclin and Crabtree, but he is a Raider so we have to give him a chance to prove himself.
I'm With Ya Bo
After watch EVERY clink that Ricky Dudley had at the Coliseum, I have no patience for a WR that cant’ catch the damn ball!
by Mallard Davis on May 17, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Ricky Dudley ?!
damnit man .. I had just erased him from my mind after all these years !
Just Win, baby !
by raidermarcus on May 17, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
LMFAO
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Several Things Stick Out
#1…Is as noted Chaz is a very good developing target and if he has a supporting cast so he is not doubled will be able to do a lot of damage and open things up for…
#2…Zack is already a polished “TE” as a blocker n Receiver so all he needs now is freedom to roam when the defenders are off covering the deep targets…He also now has a counterpart in Myers who has shown talent to play opposite him in the 2 “TE” formation….
#3…Luis as a rookie was a sold contributor and should be even better this season and has a bit of an edge that makes him a great competitor…
#4…“DHB” n Jacobi have that deep speed that draws away the double so the players in shorter routs or deep to the opposite side of the field n the "TE"s can do their jobs in single coverage and that also helps….
#5…“RunDMc” as a legitimate threat out of the backfield n Bush as that power runner w break away speed that terrifies the front 7 and they won’t be facing many “8 In the Box” situations if our "WR"s n “TE” are apt at doing their jobs under the direction of….
#6…“JC”…It’s now all on his shoulders to display the type of game management that we now know he is capable of and the accuracy with his arm and the mobility of his legs but what he now needs most is….
#7…Hue to design a legitimate scheme where each player is able to display his own wealth of talent and that gets them all to work together as a uniform unit with a gameplan against that day’s “D” and freakin halftime adjustments as the "D"s try to shut them down against an….
#8…“OL” that in the past has been extremely suspect to say the least so Cable it’s high time to get your face back in the middle of that squad and get them in sink with each other and the rest will all fall into place providing that the….
#9…“D” is finally able to slow down that damn run game and get us some 3-n-outs and "TO"s so our “O” has decent starting field position instead of the typical long way to go which brings me to…
#10…"ST"s…Do we have a legitimate unit here that we can trust and depend upon….
Now the next one is out of our hands…
#11….Get them damn “Zebras” the fuck out of our face…
very nice
love the breakdown, this should be an article all it’s own. Nice job
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks...You Can Use It if You Like -n- Expand On It As A Take...
We could look at the “D” next and how each position impacts the others and the “O”…
At this point--in my mind--if Chaz stays healthy for a year, I'll be surprised.
There is just too big a pattern of injuries.
I am hoping JLH has a big bounce back year. The slot WR is relies heavily on QB timing. JLH’s season was screwed last year after he got his dome blown in week 1 and then the qb switches and shitty play of Russell.
He had big expectations placed on him last year and comes into this year flying under the radar a bit.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
And I voted for Chaz, because I am not figuring injuries into it.
His hands and route running place him ahead of Murphy for me.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like JLH too.
He certainly was a scary ass weapon in 2008 when we had a decent special teams coach.
Hey!
Why does San Diego State have to be a low profile school?
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by DodgerBlueBalls on May 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
It’s because it’s not in a power conference like the Pac-10, ACC, SEC, Big East, Big Ten or Big 12. It’s also not even in the Mountain West and it hasn’t had major team success.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 17, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s also not even in the Mountain West
Did they realign the MWC conference without informing the public? I understand what you’re saying about the school’s lack of success, but with 16 former Aztecs currently playing in the NFL SDSU doesn’t belong to be classified as an NCAA Football obscurity like Hofstra.
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by DodgerBlueBalls on May 17, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
toushay
I had no idea there were 16 SDSU players in the NFL. However, it is still a lower tier school regardless of your love for it.
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess I forgot about San Diego State being in the Mountain West Conference. I just don’t remember them playing BYU, TCU or even Utah. In order for San Diego State to get recognition, they’ll need to be as successful those teams I mentioned that are are in the Mountain West Conference.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 17, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
louis murphy a 1000 yard receiver
Believe with Jason Campbell or Gradskowski starting, Louis Murphy will get a 1000 yards in 16 games. JRuss wasn’t accurate enough to put him in position to make catches. Russell threw the inaccurate with the velocity of Brett Farve, nobody can catch a ball like that.
+1
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Louis Murphy is our best receiver
and should improve enough to make that clear ths year. I like Chaz quite a bit, but not sure if he’s shown as good as he can be.
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According to ESPN's John Clayton the Raiders have had internal discussions about T.O.
But it seems far from happening, may take a long while or may not happen. TO asking for 5 mil. more here
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That asking price will probably drop if he isn’t signed by a certain point. Right now, even $5 million doesn’t sound unreasonable. If it dips to about $2.5 million, I think we should definitely really think about it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 17, 2010 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
True, I really think we should sign him as DHB's hands (development) won't get way better any time soon.
I want to believe in the guy, but he has a long way to go (about 3 years) even if he is working hard. Catching the ball smoothly is not something you can teach. He is just too RAW as we speak. He will bottle-neck the offense this year if he starts and plays way too much. We should sign TO to split snaps with DHB at least. 50-50 snaps. Imagine TO, Miller, and Murphy or Chaz!
For those who think he will be the Moss situation all over again, It will not, that situation was different and the whole coaching staff and playbook was completely incompetent.(as well as the line and the QB). He won’t come here and complain, if anything he’ll complain about not winning, hence, the QB not looking at him on the field when the opportunity was there. I just want to win now and Al wants to win now, so it can happen. Both Al and TO don’t have much time, lets win NOW!
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DHB's Hands
Maybe some of you are too young to remember, But when Cliff Branch first got here, He dropped quite a few, from perhaps the best passer ever who gave receivers the easiest ball to catch, Kenny (The Snake) Stabler !!! For 2 years he dropped pass’s, but that 3rd year, oh boy, legit 1000 yard receiver was born !!! DHB reminds me of him, except Branch Had Biletnakoff to work with him !!!! (and stickum,LOL) No stickum allowed, but they can go get Biletnakoff out of retirement and show Him the art of catching the Ball !!! This would be one of the best moves they could make this off season !!!!! I see him working with all of the receivers !!!!
Maybe someone can sneak in some stickem for DHB that will get past the refs.
Otherwise I think the Cliff Branch argument is a little difficult to fathom. Also enough talk about TO. This guy is not worth bringing in at $1.50 let alone $5 mil.
What was the last report ESPN had on the Raiders that was true?
Excluding anything that was withing a few moments of happening or already happened.
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Al leaked false info to ESPN just to sit back and jack-off as they reported their ‘insider info.’
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
See, this is exactly what my last article was about
People speculating, ESPN speculating. Whatever, I don’t believe a single one of them when it comes to the Raiders. They have their heads in their asses. Remember when T.O. came out publicly and announced he and McNabb had unfinished bussiness? Ha-Ha. McNabb was all like, uh, no we don’t.
T.O. for president!
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by B.A.Armstrong on May 17, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
TO is going to have an interesting post-NFL
as he desperately tries to remain in the spotlight.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on May 17, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sure VH1 will give him a television deal.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 17, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
TO
When talking about TO and money don’t forget he has a douche bag for an aggent…
by Mallard Davis on May 17, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
IT'S TRUE !!!
Boshetti is a Raider !!!! Here we go !!! The defensive front four is looking better & better!!! He’ll definetly keep lineman away from our LB’S, and shut down the middle !!!! Good move !!!
Terrible!!!! Sands Was Terrible !!!
Boschetti will hold his ground, being the Anchor !!! Used right, plug the middle, and free up the rest of the Defense on running plays. On passing plays, ties up blockers for the rush. He’s not going to get you a lot of sacks, but far as a push, and being a plug for the DL, definite upgrade !!!!
Yes, Sands was terrible, but this guy may be even worse. He didn't play in '09
and in ’08, he played in only 3 games and tallied only 2 tackles..
In Bruce We Trust
The guy may not even make the team. You’re way too excited.
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by Rated-R Superstar on May 18, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
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