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Welcome to Planet Asomugha

You know the name, you know the face, and I'm sure a few of you have seen him up close and personal. Quarterbacks know his name and they don't want to throw the ball in his direction anymore. During the final four games of 2007, Oakland Raiders all star cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha faced Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, David Garrard, and Phillip Rivers --- he was thrown at just four times. That was two seasons ago, yes, but this past season he improved his game enough to earn Associated Press All-Pro honors for the third consecutive time and earn his second straight starting Pro Bowl appearance (third overall appearance).

Mike Shanahan, the former Donkeys head Coach, said before a game between the Raiders and the Broncos in 2008, "I've never met him but I'm going to shake his hand after the game because I keep on looking for him but I never get a chance to talk to him. He's one of my favorite players, even though he is with the Raiders. That shows you how much I like him."

Many others, around the league, call him the best cornerback in the league. QB's and coach's around the league are learning that he is a true shut down corner who you'd be lucky to obtain a completion against, and it certainly wouldn't happen twice in a row. So now the question posed by those who have nothing better to do with their time than to compare one player to another (like me) is: Who is better, Nnamdi Asomugha or Darrelle Revis?

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Well, to start my argument off on the right foot, let me begin by saying I bet you've never heard New England Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick say, "I wanna shake Darelle Revis' hand after this game, because he is one of my favorite players."

I'm certainly going to answer this question for you though. It is my opinion that if Revis has an island, then Nnamdi deserves a planet: Planet Asomugha. It is an idea first posted by a man simply named "Bobby" in an NFL.com chat with the Raiders superstar cornerback. Bobby asked Nnamdi the following question: Is it true that when WR's come to visit Planet Asomugha, they never come back?

I could not help myself; the question sparked a thought in my head that has yet to die down. I felt immediately that I must make an impact with this "Planet Asomugha" saying and try to get it to stick because, in my mind, it was perfect to describe the realistic relationship of one CB to the other. Simple mathematics folks, surely you remember math from high school with the "proofs" such as: if Darrelle Revis is an island, then Nnamdi Asomugha is a planet.

Now, I'm not going to sit here and give you a bunch of numbers to compare the two elite NFL corners, this is a Raiders site, therefore the battle is going to be one sided. In 2007, opposing quarterbacks tested him only 31 times with 10 completions the entire season (1 interception, 2008 Pro Bowl Appearance).
In 2008, opposing quarterbacks tested Asomugha only 27 times with 8 completions allowed the entire season (1 interception, 2009 Pro Bowl Starter). In 2009, opposing quarterbacks tested him only 27 times and allowed 13 completions the entire season (1 interception, 2010 Pro Bowl Starter).

His tackling stats are not all that impressive, until you take into consideration that this is a cornerback who, most of the time, is not tackling the guy he is lined up across from to start the play. During this... shall I say slow period... in which opponents have been scared of him, Nnamdi has earned himself the reputation of being a vicious hitter. If you don't believe that, then watch this video.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJEbt23hU8)

Nnamdi is one of the hardest working and most motivated players in the league. Before people started to ignore his side of the field completely, he racked up an eight interception season in 2006. That stat was tied for third best in the league that year. That just happens to be the season before Darelle Revis even got drafted. Yet, despite all his recent fame in the league and recently becoming the highest paid cornerback in the NFL, Nnamdi Asomugha remains one of the most humble guys you'll ever meet.

"I take a lot of pride in my performance and preparation before games and I expect so much of myself. I think that's what allows me to play at the level that I play at and still keep a level head. I think any times that you've done the work beforehand, it allows you to be more relaxed and you don't have to talk about it. You can just let it show on the field," Asomugha told NFL.com in an interview with the eight year pro.

He did continue on to say that it is a bit irritating being on the radar these days, "Of course it gets frustrating, and you definitely want more opportunities to make plays. Especially when you finish a play and you've got great position and you look back and the ball is not coming. That happens often. Hopefully I'll be able to be a little more involved this year in disrupting the offense and creating turnovers."

ESPN Monday Night Football analyst Ron Jaworski, aka "Jaws," once said, "Nnamdi plays with great intelligence. He understands how to play the position. He may not be the most gifted physically, But Nnamdi [talks] about reading routes, how the quarterback drops, things coaches talk about a lot of times [that] players don't get. He gets the cerebral side of playing the position."

His charity work with the Asomugha Foundation and OWIN recently earned him the 2009 Byron "Whizzer" White NFL Man of the Year award. Additionally, Asomugha distributes backpacks to the incoming freshmen each year at Narbonne High School in Los Angeles. He also outfits the football and basketball team with shoes, a mandate he wrote into an endorsement contract he signed with Nike.

Yes, in today's sports world of folks going to clubs and beating up strippers, NBA stars cheating on their wives and attempting to make it up with $4 million diamond rings, and every Bengals player on their roster getting  arrested for some reason or another, Asomugha is a man amongst boys. Just ask Steelers QB, Ben Roethlisberger, who was recently suspended for not using his time more wisely.

Therefore, this man has earned a reputation and we must refer to his territory on the football field and in life as Planet Asomugha. Maybe if Revis is feeling lucky one day, he can ask Nnamdi nicely and perhaps Nnamdi will let Revis move his little island to Planet Asomugha. Until that day, Nnamdi stands alone.

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ahh im always getting into this arguement with friends

aso doesnt get enough recognition because hes a raider. Friends always come to me and say things like"oh, if he was so great how come he doesnt get any intos". the public doesnt realize the ball doesnt get thrown in aso’s direction, ever. On the other side of hte field we have a weak corner and that side of the field gets abused. while revis has help on the other side so he doesnt get ignored as much as aso. plus they have different styles aso is a finesse corner, all shadow coverage while revis is aggressive and uses power.

by NYraider29 on May 2, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Back on topic, Asom1 has set the bar high for the entire D and team - his tackling, coverage and overall technique

and professionalism raises everyone’s play. I’m relieved we didn’t sacrifice him for draft picks or a FA upgrade at DT or OT as that would have made us stronger and weaker and accomplished nothing positive. With McClain, Groves and Wimbley, Houston and Little Walter joining the lineup our run defense will be much more enjoyable for the fans and intimidating for opponents.

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 2, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

There is no doubt that Darrelle Revis is now the more popular player. It’s because his team is more successful and he plays for New York as opposed to an unsuccessful team and an unpopular city NFL-wise. Revis is an elite cornerback in his own right, but I have to believe Asomugha is better. Revis plays zone most of the time as opposed to man. Asomugha is playing man-to-man over 95 percent of the time. Revis has better talent around him, a better coaching staff and his defense actually blitzes. Asomugha is at much more of a disadvantage in that respect.

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by Rated-R Superstar on May 2, 2010 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Furthering your thought...

Revis plays in New York, the city that ESPN can’t get enough of and happily showcases the interceptions made by Revis, which are more sexy than #21 shutting down half the field.

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by TheRaiderWay on May 2, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Revis plays zone most of the time as opposed to man.

This is a grossly inaccurate statement.

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by John B on May 2, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

When you compare that to Asomugha, no.

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by Rated-R Superstar on May 2, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Revis only had 1 good season, and everybody is considering him a god at CB.

Asomugha was a god at CB most of his career.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on May 2, 2010 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Revis has been successful at top CB since he came into the game.
After all, he looked up to Nnamdi, but he is a god at CB to do what he did to TO and Moss (arguably no. 2 and 3. best receivers of all time)

by Max Strauss on May 2, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Owens and Moss, at this stage of their careers, aren’t those kinds of receivers anymore. Moss is still really good, but he’s not the player he once was. Owens, although an all-time great, is just average now.

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by Rated-R Superstar on May 2, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

he did good on moss, and TO did crap last year.

moss also took revis out of the game. Revis was focusing on him all game, look how welker did against the jets in the second game(he was injured in the first game).: 15 catches, 192 yards. His best game.

you don’t need to get catches ALL the time to do great in a game. For a #1 WR, you can do great just by taking the best CB out of the game, and/or getting double teams the entire game. That opens up your other WRs, and possibly other options as well.

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by patriotguy2 on May 2, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

also, revis has a pass rush in the jets defense, the raiders don't.

which makes nnamdi all the more better. Plus Nnamdi can tackle.

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by patriotguy2 on May 2, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

moss also took revis out of the game. Revis was focusing on him all game, look how welker did against the jets in the second game(he was injured in the first game).: 15 catches, 192 yards. His best game.

Yes, because Drew Coleman couldn’t cover Welker. That has nothing to do with Revis.

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by John B on May 2, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

it means he took your best CB out of the game.

you don’t need to get catches ALL the time to do great in a game. For a #1 WR, you can do great just by taking the best CB out of the game, and/or getting double teams the entire game. That opens up your other WRs, and possibly other options as well.

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by patriotguy2 on May 2, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

and yeah, about the surrounding talent the jets have vs. the raiders on defense?

I don’t think revis will do as well if he was on the raiders instead of the jets.

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by patriotguy2 on May 2, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

not a chance. there is a learning curve for corners on the Raiders, that few can handle

Ask D’Angelo Hall about that one. Revis would disappear into obscurity for at least a year…

He’d overcome it, but couldn’t handle the man to man for the inital year. I doubt he’d remain as positive as Nnamdi has throughout the entire process, either.

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by brhynno on May 2, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

This might be

the dumbest post I’ve ever read. Yeah . . . that’s what teams look for in a number 1 receiver – take the D’s #1 corner out of the game (by having no catches).

by Locke000 on May 20, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey guys – Just FYI… You guys have the 21st oldest projected starting OL in the NFL…

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/5/2/1454582/age-and-the-ol-why-the-2010

by JimmyK on May 2, 2010 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Our youngest guy (B. campbell)wil be starting over our oldest guy

Cooper. Our oldest guy is 29 in Gallery I don’t think Cooper will start.

by raiderfan21 on May 2, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think this is a fair argument.

Revis is the best all-around CB in the league but Nnamdi is the best pure cover corner so its like picking between 1A & 1B. I also am a Nnamdi fan. I would say it’s push. Also Bye, Dawk :( what relevance does the age of our O-line have in this conversation you bandwagon jumper? I wonder if you were bleeding green when Rich Kotite was leading you guys to a 1-15 year.

by TAW on May 2, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

This is not even a discussion: Nnamdi is the most complete guy, bar none

A vicious hitter, amazing run supporter, best man to man cover guy, by a longshot, and the biggest lifter of performance of his teammates, maybe period. No single player is, or has been, as important to his team, as Nnamdi has been to the Oakland Raiders.

I shudder at the mention of trading away this gem, for whom Al was heavily criticized for almost two seasons. Who’s talking now?

It’s impossible to measure the impact he’s having on Tyvon, Mike Mitchell, and now Walter McFadden.

Let’s measure how he is against Revis, when he has solid performance from the revamped front seven we’re fielding this year. I think no one here will argue that the NYJs are a more complete defensive unit, and now with the addition of Cromartie, and arguably one of the best CBs of this year’s draft class, and I’ll still venture to say Nnamdi comes away with better stats, performance, and ahead of Revis on the Pro Bowl roster after 2010.

You heard it here, first! Nnamdi is the best, and there is no argument I’ll agree with to counter my position.

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by brhynno on May 2, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

couldn't have said it better myself

Right on brhynno

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by B.A.Armstrong on May 2, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes. thanks for another amazing post, B.A.

while many fans of other teams will disagree, I’ll never change my position. I’ll also let Nnamdi’s achievements speak largely for themselves this year. The sky’s the limit for the Asom1 if we get solid play from the front seven .

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by brhynno on May 2, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do it three more years in a row

and then you can start the serious comparisons. I have a lot of respect for Revis, he is a great player. If he can prove that he can play at this level (especially now with other talented corners the j-e-t-s suck suck suck have), he may get more balls thrown at him) consistantly, then give the man his credit. Just have to wait and see.

A bit biased though, because next to Howie, Aso is one of my favorite raider players of all time.

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by Lint on May 2, 2010 4:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

year in and year out he's the real deal

Unfortuneately I think he will be remembered as the lone good player on a string of garbage teams.

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on May 2, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Revis

has been in the NFL for 3 years, not nearly long enough to be crowned. ESPN loves the Jets and Rex Ryan, so Revis got a lot of run this year. Aso has done it year in year out with a horrible D around him. Even Baily gives it up to Aso. No freaking competition here, but as long as Bailey is playing he still gets the #1 nod. Aso is #2, and I guess Revis is #3, but there are a number of DB’s that have had a more consistant run than him.

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by Kwester421 on May 2, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Chris Johnson

Just can’t get any respect, can he? Despite being under huge pressure, and despite the fact that the pass rush was feeble a lot of games last year. What I really don’t understand is why at game time, they don’t match up Nnamdi vs. the other team’s best receiver. He just plays the same side of the field, and the other team is free to match up their top guy against Johnson.

by rightnasty on May 2, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

And this

is why Revis is better than Asomugha. Because game in, game out, Revis is actually going one on one with the best receivers in the league, every play.

You know why teams don’t throw at Aso? Because they don’t have to. They can scheme to get their best receiver away from him, and the QB will simply throw to that guy all day long.

Revis, on the other hand, takes the best receiver on the opposing team. Which is why he was one of the most highly targeted CBs in the league. Opposing QBs are taught “if your No 1 is one on 1 with the CB, throw him the ball and let him make a play” – problem is, that doesn’t work out when it’s Revis. Probably wouldn’t if it was Aso, either – but the fact that he can’t move around like Revis means that’s irrelevant.

by Locke000 on May 20, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Revis > Aso

First of all I want to say that although i’m not a Raiders fan, I am a huge Aso fan. He does many great things on and off the field and is a true professional. That said, Revis could end up being the greatest CB of all time. If you watch him on a consistent basis you will all agree with me. He has only played 3 seasons and is already an elite player in the NFL. Revis also has to prove himself a lot more than Nnamdi. Revis got thrown at WAY more than Aso. Revis also isn’t tested more because he isnt as good. He is tested because he was guarding elite receivers all year. Nnamdi doesn’t always guard the opposing teams #1 receiver but Revis does. And for those of you that think that Revis came out of nowhere and has only had one good season, that is simply not true. Anyone who watched him play for the last couple years shouldn’t be surprised by what he did in 2009. The scary thing is he is only 24 and isn’t even in his prime yet. He could be the best CB in football for the next 8-10 years.

by Dylan87 on May 2, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Have you ever watched a Jets game?

The Jets play more man to man D than any team in the NFL. The Jets pass rush actually struggled a lot this year as well. Our NT was also hurt for almost the entire season so our front 7 really wasn’t very good at all. Plus our best pass rusher Calvin Pace was suspended for the first 4 games and our second best pass rusher Shaun Ellis was also suspended for a game. The Jets wouldn’t have made the playoffs if it wasn’t for Revis. In fact, I dont think they would have won more than 6 games.

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

you could say that, but your defense was a run stopping monster, even with jenkins out.

the jets are #8 I think in run defense, and the rest is #1. Look at the raiders defensive numbers. They are NOT comparable!

If revis was in nnamdi’s situation, with the defense the raiders have, I don’t think he’ll stand up to Brandon Marshall twice a year, as well as vincent jackson twice a year, on a defense that stunk in pass rushing, and run stopping. Plus Nnamdi DOES in fact ine up against the #1 WRs ALL THE TIME!

Revis has a defense, Nnamdi doesn’t, yet Nnamdi puts up a VERY consistent effort in locking down receivers. given each of their situations with their teams, I think Nnamdi takes the cake. If Revis was here, I really don’t think hell do as well as Nnamdi.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aso....Duh

He’s been in the leauge longer, has played at a highler level for a longer time, and like everyone else has said, he has a much weaker team.

It’s a no brainer….

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by JaKe. on May 2, 2010 11:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Right now I'll say Asomugha

He is simply one of the best shutdown corners in the league. Revis overtime maybe better than Asomugha but he has a long way to go. Since I feel dirty by saying something positive about the Raiders I must shamlessly plug the Chiefs. I think our CB Brandon Flowers will have a career much like Asomugha. He is one of the best young cornerbacks in the league. It just amazes me how much the CB position is changing and Asomugha helped paved the way.

Jamaal Charles...Enough said.

by Chiefsfan85 on May 3, 2010 12:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Revis almost never plays zone...

Anyone who thinks that Revis plays a lot of zone D has obviously never watched him play. Like Asomugha, his strength is man to man. He excels in bump and run coverage. The Jets only played zone on the side of the field that Revis isn’t on, because Lowery and Lito sucked last year. As a guy who has watched every single Jets game, I find it impossible to believe that Asomugha is better than Revis. Revis single handedly shut down Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Steve Smith, Marques Colston, Roddy White, Chad Ochocinco, and Reggie Wayne. I have a hard time believing that Asomugha could accomplish that. I think Aso is one of the greatest CBs to ever play the game. No disrespect to him, but I just think Revis is slightly better. I also agree with those of you who say that Revis needs to prove himself over a longer period of time.

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 7:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Namdi also did that, he shut down all those guys you mentioned.... look, the only way we would know for sure

if Revis is better, it would have to be if our team was pretty good and almost made it to the playoffs, but we didn’t and the Jets did (overall better record, overall better team) so stop comparing, Namdi has done way more and better on a sucky team (although we’re comin up this year, 8-8) put Revis with the Rams and see what happens….

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by JaggerJaw on May 3, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

alright so its basically impossible to compare them

Bottom line, we don’t know how good Nnamdi is because he never gets tested so its impossible to compare him to Revis. Maybe he is better or maybe he is worse. Unless he gets tested 111 times in a season like Revis was, we just don’t know. Teams have no reason to throw at Nnamdi because its easier to beat the Raiders by running the ball and throwing away from him. The Jets just double the other receivers and stack the box so they are really forcing teams to throw at Revis. The way teams were able to beat the Jets was by using 3-wide sets and just throwing to the #2 and #3 receivers. In any other formation, the Jets were basically impossible to score on.

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we were to meet the Jets this season, we'd blow'em out of the water and abuse Mark Sanchez.

(Just like we did McNabb and his former eagles) (we didn’t blow’em out though) This Revis and Nnamdi talk is irrelevant, DHB would blow by Revi’s ass. (this last part was just blind smack talk)

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by JaggerJaw on May 3, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL lets not get too carried away now.

Typical delusional Raiders fan… We didn’t even need to throw the ball on your joke of a team. Didn’t we run for like 300 yards on you guys. Keep talking. Btw didn’t a certain CB pick Russell off in the endzone? Wonder who that was….

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Jets got one

But it was like 45,000 years ago. i’m not surprised people have forgot about it already

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by B.A.Armstrong on May 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow you really dont know your football history

The Jets HAVE won a Super Bowl… Ever heard of Joe Namath? Look I think the Raiders are improving but lets not get too ahead of ourselves. The Raiders are still a long way from contending. The Chargers own that division. And McClain and Houston dont even compare to Harris and Scott. Why dont you have a winning season before you declare yourselves Super Bowl champs mk?

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe two seasons back to back with over 10 interceptions, followed up with two seasons back to back with over 7 interceptions

is the reason why teams don’t throw in his direction. Teams don’t throw at Nnamdi because chances are is he either just knocks it down, or picks it off. Revis looks very good no doubt, but he hasn’t reached Nnamdi’s level just yet.

But, in fact, we won’t truly know that like you said, until a couple more seasons. but at this VERY MOMENT, Nnamdi is the better guy.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got the stats wrong, they are passes defended. he had 8 ints that one ear, and 1 int the next three years.

but considering how many times teams do not throw to him, I’m not very surprised.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Revis

Should be honored to hold Nnamdi’s jock strap at this point

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by B.A.Armstrong on May 3, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Poll

This issue can’t be settled with a poll. Take a poll on a Raiders site and it is 80 – 20 for Namdi. Take a poll on a Jets site and it is 80 – 20 Revis. Have ESPN (EastCoast Sports Premier Network) and it probably would be 70 – 30 Revis. Take a poll of the teams that played both last year, Chiefs, Broncos, Chargers and you get Revis 60 – 40 just because the AFC West teams fans hate the Raiders. It can’t be settled in a poll.

by Mallard Davis on May 3, 2010 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

same goes for Centers and Guards … ask the DTs and MLBs who they consider best.

by Sons-of-Blanda on May 3, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know Chad Johnson

said that he looked at oodles of tape on the corners he faced, and that he said Nnamdi was the best Corner he has ever seen. Or someting like that.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dont know who Chad Johnson is lol....

Chad OCHOCINCO also said that Revis was the best in the league after he faced him and that Revis was the only player to ever shut him down. But then again the man also legally changed his name to (eight-five) in spanish…Lets not take anything he says too seriously!

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's actually very smart when it comes to football. Not saying that what he said about Nnamdi is the reason, but he watches A LOT of tape on guys.

And I wouldn’t be surprised if he said that Revis was one of the best he’s ever played. And names have nothing to do with how you play football.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

This actually was posted on both teams pages.

It just turns out that even though the Raiders have sucked lately, they still have a more faithful following then the crappy Jets

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by B.A.Armstrong on May 3, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing they picked Revis over there?

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

they get excited over a lot of stuff

I know your not a pats fan, but here this:

One guy made a story post of how they should get Jordan Shipley, because he looks MUCH better than Welker, and that he’ll be a better receiver than welker is. I’m thinking desperate, but it could also very unintelligent.

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha Shipley looks decent, but doesn't deserved ot be compared to Welker.

I think they’re comparing the two because their both white and play slot..Even though they’re are other recievers who aren’t white and play slot as well that could be compared to Welker.

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by JaKe. on May 3, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The amount of hits welker takes will snap shipley in half.

If Ryan Clark made that hit against shipley, and not welker, he would be pretty much dazed, and maybe get a concussion(or something in that idea). Welker gets up, and plays the next play, and he even says that was a great hit. Here’s the vid if you haven’t seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyNy-TkDGB0

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by patriotguy2 on May 3, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

in this decade?

but I wouldn’t doubt it. it looked like a HUGE hit, and I don’t think many thought welker would play the rest of the game due to a concussion or something.

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by patriotguy2 on May 5, 2010 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i like Shipley

but I mean, c’mon…that’s something a donkey fan would say

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by B.A.Armstrong on May 3, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

For anyone who needs statistical proof that Revis is better, here it is.

Revis stats

2009
thrown at- 111
catches- 41
% caught- 36.9
TDs against- 2
INTs- 6
PD- 23

2008
thrown at- 84
catches- 49
% caught- 58.3
TDs against- 2
INTs- 5
PD- 8

Asomugha

2009
thrown at- 28
catches- 21
% caught- 75
TDs against- 1
INTs- 1
PD- 2

2008
thrown at- 30
catches- 16
% caught- 53.3
TDs against- 0
INTs- 1
PD- 6

Anyone who wants to argue with stats go right ahead. Nnamdi was slightly better in 2008, but Revis clearly passed him in 2009. I got the stats from profootballfocus.com which analyzes every single play that occurs in every single game. How can anyone argue that Aso was better last season than Revis? The stats dont lie.

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Dude why do you think Nnamdi got thrown at 28 times! My goodness! I wasn't sure myself but wow, lol, thanks for clarifying who is better.

Look, you and I have no say, let the QB’s decide, let the pro’s decide…. Obviously there is a reason why he got thrown at 28 times to Revi’s 111 times, I mean c’mon how can you compare? By far Nnamdi is better, judging from those stats you posted. lmao, I’m laughing right now at you, are u blind? Hell, there is no doubt Revis got better stats, but it was because he was thrown at 111 times and had way more chances than Nnamdi to make plays. Opposing QB’s have no respect for Revis then, why might that be?

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

because of the defensive scheme the Jets play and because he hadnt proven himself YET

I’ve been trying to explain this for awhile, but obviously you just arent able to grasp the concept. Revis is always covering the opposing #1 receiver. Asomugha isn’t always covering the opposing teams #1 receiver. That means that in order to stay away from Revis, teams would have to stop throwing to their #1 WR entirely. Most teams werent willing to do that. Guys like Brady, Schaub, Palmer, etc. chose to try and throw at Revis and it cost them. The teams that were successful against the Jets stayed away from Revis and attacked the Jets #2 and #3 CBs. Thats the smart way to attack the Jets defense and the way the Colts beat them in the AFC Championship game. Revis wasnt as proven so he was tested more, but that doesn’t mean that he isn’t a better player. Aso has never put up the same kind of numbers that Revis put up. 6 picks (plus two more in the playoffs) and 23 passes deflected is insane. Plus the opposing receivers caught less than 40 percent of the passes when Revis was covering them. Your argument makes no sense. You are basically saying that because QBs test him (even though they have no success against him) he isnt as good as Aso. Heres a news flash for you. Before Aso was considered the best CB in the league, he was tested a lot too. I guess he must have sucked then because QBs threw at him… But your way too ignorant to listen to what i’m saying or admit that it has any validity so i’m out. Good luck on the season.

by Dylan87 on May 3, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Our #2 CB Chris Johnson got 18 passes defensed and 3 int. wow, pretty close to Revi's stats. Brandon Flowers 23 Passes Defensed and 5 int. wow they are close to Revis' production.

Since you state Nnamdi doesn’t guard #1 receivers a lot, look our #2 CB is pretty good almost near Revis’ stats…..lmao

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 3, 2010 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol seriously?

It listed Byrd (A FREE SAFETY) as the second best CB in the NFL! It also listed Cromartie (who was AWFUL) in the top 5. Plus it gave the practically crippled Ty Law and honorable mention. In the words of Ochocinco, CHILD PLEASE!

My top 10 list would go like this:

1- Revis
2- Asomugha
3- Flowers
4- Hall
5- Woodson
6- Rodgers-Cromartie
7- Bailey
8- Joseph
9- Samuel
10- Wright

by Dylan87 on May 4, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOodson is better than Revis too.

I just realized that Revis isn’t even number 2 in the league. The Jets are dreamers, last year was the closest y’all will get to the Super Bowl in the next ten years.

Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!

by B.A.Armstrong on May 5, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Woodson IS the better tackler.

I can’t think of my list of corners at the moment, but I disagree with dylan’s list strongly.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on May 5, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

That last one is the real kick in the ass =D

by JaKe. on May 4, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL come on man at least find a decent article...

One of them listed Jairus Byrd (name spelled wrong in article) as the second best CB in the NFL!!! Byrd isn’t even a CB he is a FS lol. Plus he isn’t even good in coverage. He is a ballhawking safety lmao. It also listed Antonio Cromartie as the 5th best. I think we all know that Cromartie was terrible last year. He wasnt even the 25th best CB let alone the 5th. And he is a Jet so it pains me to say it lol. I think that article should get discredited. Even you have to agree with me there. The other article was written before the 2009 season started so ofcourse Aso was rated higher than Revis. And the highlight video wasn’t exactly impressive, although he never gets thrown at so I wasnt expecting it to be. If you want to see a really cool video here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ArujOq6FQA

And I know you don’t honestly think that Chris Johnson is as good as Revis so i’m not even going to reward that with a response.

by Dylan87 on May 4, 2010 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Dude, can you read replies, I said, yeah its not a good article (2nd link) but I posted it cuz he had Nnamdi on top.

You are dumb, u look at one slip and start trying to falsely expose after I said it wasn’t credible. I noticed you did this with the SB talk about the Jets having 0 SB’s, you jumped on it after someone had corrected me, but its not my fault i’m not 70 years-old, so Child Please!! Like I give two shits about the Jets measly, and old SB win, 50 years ago. They have no history, just because of that fluke SB.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 4, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dylan, keep liyng to yourself. The stats say it all, even Brandon Marshall said he was happy to not face Nnamdi twice a year.

It means a Pro has indirectly said that he preffers not to face Nnamdi than Revis twice a year as he is within your division now. Watch him get burned a lot by Marshall, i’ll be laughing.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on May 4, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

the only player in the division revis faces that is even CLOSE to worthy

is randy moss. and moss ONLY has strait line speed now, and that’s nothing special to revis. now throw in brandon marshall, one of the quickest WRs in the game. We’ll see what happens, but I’m willing to bet that he may have difficulty with him.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on May 4, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marshall will put up 20 catches on you in one game

PLANET ASOMUGHA WINS 90% to 10%.

Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!

by B.A.Armstrong on May 5, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

not even close

Don't Trade Nnamdi Idiots!!!
Bring Back Bruce!!!

by B.A.Armstrong on May 5, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

against marshall though… I’d say asomugha wins 85%-15% against marshall.

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on May 5, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

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