Is The Raiders Signing of DT John Henderson, Sprint's Game Changer in Oakland?
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jun 11, 2010 11:40 AM PDT
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Okay Oakland Raider fans, the Raiders just added the missing link to their 2010 defensive puzzle in the shape and form of 6 foot 7 inch 337 pound John Henderson, formerly of the Jacksonville Jags.
In 2000, Henderson was the Outland Trophy winner who played on the same interior line as Albert Haynesworth.
Henderson has been a Two-Time Pro-Bowler, most recently in 2006.
Henderson has tallied 29 sacks,forced 8 fumbles, defended 38 passes and tallied 423 tackles in his 8 year career.
So, what does he bring to the 2010 Oakland Raiders, who according to Adam Schefter, just inked a one year deal to wear the Silver and Black?
At first glance I see his 38 passes defensed and his 6 foot 7 inch height and think about him clogging the middle on passing down and allowing Kelly, Houston, Seymour and a blitzer to get to the QB. He is averaging nearly 5 passes defensed a year. That is pretty incredible.
He is coming from a 4-3 defense, so he should transition really well and he has shown to be an above average run stuffer, although he has declined over the past 3 seasons.
His decline may be due to a lack of complimentary help on the defensive line and that should be NO problem in Oakland with Kelly, Seymour, Scott, Shaughnessy and Houston on the line with him. Let's hope that he has a rebirth in Oaktown and leads us to the promised land.
There it is Raider fans, your 2010 Oakland Raider Defense. Can I get an A-Men from the congregation? Just when you think this off-season can't get any better...It just DID!!!
GO RAIDERSSS!!!!!
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just cannot wait until the season starts
esspically the home opener vs the Rams.
"The Silver and Black are Back" -Greg Papa 2002 AFC Championship game
I had to give my praise to the creator...Al Davis.
The Raiders are having the type of offseason almost everyone had said would be impossible until he was no longer calling the shots.
IN AL WE TRUST!
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I give Al
all the credit in the world for this offseason. It’s given me so much hope for 2010 and beyond…Can’t wait till My Raiders come visit me in the desert on Sept 26th…
by transparent58 on Jun 11, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
"In Al We Trust!"
"What is your agenda?"
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 11, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
It was the Organization as a whole, not just Al, communication is key for a successful franchise, in a sense, its all about teamwork.
The RaiderLaker
Yup, and Al sets up the infrastucture that allowed it.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember the billboard and the overwhelming sentiment for Al to hire a GM?
Well, Al Davis is GM of the year right now.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake.
If we make the playoffs and Al wins the executive of the year award it would be almost as satisfying as winning the superbowl……almost.
Oakland is ground zero, the womb and breast, the DNA of the Raider phenomenon. Al Davis is the St. Joseph, foster father, of the immortal and divine team, Oakland a modern Bethlehem and L.A. as another Egypt. - Sons-of-Blanda
Amen! I gotta go with Al! I was otherwise torn
Hue Jackson will be a close second. The important thing to recognize here, is that I was hard pressed to find a selection that won’t be a significant game changer, and for once in a long, long time, I can truly say it’s not just Raider fan pipe dreams on my behalf. We have real, tangible reasons to be excited about this team getting better, and I for one, am ecstatic about that fact!
Here’s to Al for sticking with Tom, bringing in Hue, Kamerion, Jason, and Seymour! To Al for drafting Ro, and evolving when many—including many of us—doubted he could. To Al for truly going after the ultimate prize forever and always, and though appearing to have strayed from that target at times, staying his course. I don’t think any of us can truly question his will to field the best team possible, and I’m grateful his most recent actions scream that reality louder than any words could express.
ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL, NATION????
I AM SO FIRED UP!!!!!
Now let’s sign a left tackle already—a game changer—this will be the Sprint game changer! Who’s it gonna be? There could be some interesting guys available if they don’t wish to sign their tenders, and some teams are counting on their guys to sign tenders that would call for cuts in pay.
In a league like ours where there is such a premium on starting quality tackles, I don’t really understand what these teams are thikning. One of them is the Chargers! Ohhhhh yeaaahhhhh….
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I honestly think that billboard had a bit of a domino effect on Al's decision making this year....
I think he’s putting more trust into the staff that he’s built around him instead of only relying on his opinions and those of his puppets. I think that billboard was kind of a pain in his ass/thorn in his side that nagged at him until he decided to try a new approach for once.
I honestly have no idea why so many people on this board hate it so much. I feel it may be partially responsible for the lack of boneheaded offseason moves that Al has made himself known for the last 7 years. I gotta give those guys credit for speaking their piece.
by Raider Zealot on Jun 11, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 (Well said.)
"What is your agenda?"
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 11, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea I put Al
He gets all the criticism, but he also has to get the praise when he does something good.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
Well said Transparent58...
Even Ray Lewis himself struggled when he didn’t have a good DT in front of him. McClain is going to benefit big time from having a big man like Henderson keeping guards and full backs, he would otherwise have had to deal with, off of him.
You just know poor Kirk Morrison is thinking " Oh sure, Raiders, NOW you go get a good DT and of all the ones to pick, you take one from my new team!"
Good insight!
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 13, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Cambell hands down
Yes Al should be the obviuos pick for the excellent decisions made, however, I chose Campbell because he will "Transform"us. First he was signed and after the first three days of OTA’s they grew the balls to cut ties with the biggest cancer of all time. Second he immediately has made an impact in the locker room with his cool approach and bonding techniques. He is a leader for sure. Third he is a possesion QB and will move the chains doing three major things.
A. Time of possestions wins ball games.
B. Keep the defense rested and alow them to make adjustments and review pics from upstairs. Not to mention keep our defense fresh for those 4th quarter meltdowns we are recently known for.
C. Give the 2 best kickers in the game a chance to do what they do best. Ski will lead the league in points and Lech will again be the best punter in the league. Don’t be surprised if both of them don’t make the Pro Bowl.
It is for these reasons that I now believe one man can make all the difference. I didn’t even mention how the run game should blossom. There is something to be said about playing for a leader and wanting to sell out for the person. If you believe in them you will go that extra mile. JR gave none of those attributes and that is why we struggled. Need proof watch the games when Grad started and you will see everyone’s play increase (Pittsburgh is the best example). In that game alone recievers dove for balls and sacrificed thier bodies to make catches. The line did a fabulous job against a stellar Defense. Excitment on the sidelines, coaches pumped up, and of course the fans syked. Again I believe every aspect of the game increases due to this man. Not the savior but definitley a true Captian that will sink with the ship if need be and take responsibility for the failures. Welcome to the Silver & Black Jason!!!
by Oaktown Assassin on Jun 13, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
93 days 'til Titan stadium is flooded by the Raiders in week 1.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
93 days till beers and lazy chairs
and my big screen tv
by NYraider29 on Jun 11, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder how much of John Henderson we’ll see. If he’s the player we all still think he his, he’s undoubtedly a starter. Henderson isn’t in his prime, but he should be pretty solid and “pretty solid” is a great addition.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 11, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
Right the Raiders don't need him to be a pro bowler.
They just need some solid blocker eating/run stuffing play on first and second down. He won’t have to play at all on passing downs, which will limit his snaps and keep him fresh. And on a one year contract and just jilted by his previously only team, he should be motivated.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
At 31 he's not in his prime?
Ted Washington played till he was 40. I’ll take Henderson’s durability over Gimpy Legs the Donkeys signed. He could be the missing piece for our Defense.
by transparent58 on Jun 11, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
best free agent pick up for us in years!
our dline is gonna be rediculous.. and with rolando holding down the back side the raider d is back to its former glory
Loving the look on paper of the interior D Line so far...
Kelly and Henderson as starters with Bryant rotating and Seymour kicking in as some interior play as well…
Nice!, don't forget Houston, I really think he will earn a starting spot over Shaughnessy.
I think the starting line will be: Seymour,Kelly,Henderson,Houston
Now that’s a big line specialized for run stopping.
The RaiderLaker
And adding Groves and Wimbley
gives us versatility, too. Both can play DE on passing downs, and drop into coverage effectively if we blitz…we’re big, we’re fast, and we’re pissed…the DC should have no problem stopping the run or dialing up pressure when needed…this should be the best defense we’ve had in a decade.
by transparent58 on Jun 11, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
good run line.
i see kelly/henderson/heard splittin time, with bryant and the others rotating, keepin each guy fresh as possible, each big man (NT) paired with the lighter UT, like seymour / bryant / richardson…. just my musings…
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 11, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
U'r right Wern !! On paper we're looking pretty Damn good !!!!
Defensive weakness has been addressed !!!!! If all play to what we think they’re capable of , No matter what they run, 4/3, 3/4, both, which i think should be done, depending on who we’re playing , being versatile doesn’t hurt. Now just stay healthy !!!! PLZ. !!!! From the 30th ranked D., to moving in the top 10 !!!! Al for GM of the year?? Finish with a record of 10/6 or better, get into the playoffs, that may be a lock !!!! No team has been as busy as the Raiders, this off season, addressing needs. Once dble session’s & preseason cuts starts, picking up another OT, & receiver might be needed. Like all of you, can’t wait for the season to get started !!!! The West is ours for the taking !!!!
Good Pickup
If he is healthy and motivated this could solve a lot of problems up front.Have not seen him in a few years but I do remember him being a force with the Jags.If anything we now have tremendous size up front and this should make McClain"s mouth water.Lets get this season started I can’t wait.
Suddenly our front 7 looks awesome
I have been shouting for more interior D-line help for a couple of years. Finally they have invested in the D-line to a significant amount. Let’s hope our run defense becomes a strength this year.
You all occupy a world dominated by Kobe Bryant, consider yourself fortunate.
Great signing..the last piece of the puzzle!
Our D front 7 should be awesome!!!! Best offseason I can ever remember.
The FO was patient & got the players they needed to turn it around. I will be surprised
if we are not a playoff team…Looking forward to Sept!!!
Still think we're sorely lacking at OT
without any real stud starters. It’s good to have a couple of decent guys, but depth is shit without a stud at LT.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I still say McClain is the best addition to our defense.
He is a bonefide hard hitting leader who is like the next ray lewis.
Death-Ro!!!
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
+1
i voted DEATHRO also… i think havin a hard hittin smart QB of the D is gonna be the biggest asset…. we got dope safeties, cb’s (CJ is a solid #2, just not near the ASO standard, which is honestly like comparing us to CONAN) should be okay, atleast ASO’s side…. everyone knows that i love defense, and i am startin to enjoy ours.. i know we need the big bodies up front, and am glad we just signed HENJON, but we need DEATHRO to make the crunching hit, line everyone up, make the crunching hit, audible, make the crunching hit, call the play, make the crunching hit, cover the shorts, make the crunching hit, stop the RB’s at or behind the line, and ofcourse, make the crunching hit. see, offense wins games, DEFENSE wins championships…. i am startin to get bloodflow thinkin about the damage ours is gonna do. i want RIVERS blowing snotbubbles and biting his tongue as his ass is planted into the grass…. maybe cutler too for being such a emo bitch… and i’d like to see ROMO get slammed a few, too!
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 11, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions
From your pen to God's ear
i want RIVERS blowing snotbubbles and biting his tongue as his ass is planted into the grass…. maybe cutler too for being such a emo bitch… and i’d like to see ROMO get slammed a few, too!
"What is your agenda?"
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 11, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
+1,000,000 on the slams!
Snot bubbles for all! Let’s throw in Orton and Cassell of course!
I think it’s gonna be Peyton blowing the biggest ones.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
LOL
if ya cant tell, i played both offense and defense in school, but loved the intensity and wild abandon i felt when crunching the asshole with the ball…. nothing pumps you up like putting your helmets forehead into their chest and diving three yards behind them… feeling them go all loose and limp, hearin them wheeze and whine ass u push their face in the turf when ur getting up….. and thats what RODAWG’s gonna do, cuz it’s how we roll. write that down.
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 14, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
twitching like a fish on deck, needing smelling salts to walk off the field...
I miss that from Raider ball. You come to expect it.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Here is my DL lineup now:
Seymour, Kelly, Henderson, richardson or Houston(or Scott or whoever really).
Looks pimp!
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
You'd play Jay over Matt?
"What is your agenda?"
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 11, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I just remembered richardson before shaugnessy. I really want Houston to start opposite Seymour.
That’s pretty much it.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
I see a lot of rotation and switching on this line.
I am not sure who starts is going to matter much. There will be probably be 7 guys getting a # of snaps.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 11, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
You got that right!
the starter is just the guy who plays the first play. There is going to be all sorts of shifting and hybrid stuff going on, I, for one, am fired up! Henederson was the last piece needed our “D”. There are going to be some QBs getting jacked up this year!
true that. Richardson and Shaugnessy will spell others nicely.
There’s a time and place for either guy, too. Richardson will play well against some, and Shaugnessy against others.
They both have ability to excel against anyone, but isn’t it cool having the luxury of not knowing which one to go with?
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
That now shifts our most glaring needs to OL and WR...
Our OL is unproven… having Jamarcus back there doesn’t necessarily help but they are unproven…
At WR… as much as I do love our youth and depth at the position, I do think we would benefit bringing in a veteran to help with such a young group
I’m not saying that we need to go out and get players at these positions… but with adding Henderson on the interior our needs have shifted
Defense
One thing to consider, last year, in most cases, the opponents held the ball for more minutes than we did. The offense was always on the defense because we needed to score and any mistake cost us the game. This year it looks like we have a chance for the offense to make some mistakes and not have to walk the tightrope because the defense will get the ball back. That is old time, kick ass, Raider football.
Great addition
Hopefully Walter McFadden will come on strong to solidify our 2nd CB position within the next couple years and we can get Henderson for a couple more years after this. Our defense is looking nastyyy! But Michael Huff MUST continue to progress at S or else move him to CB
+1
i see huff as a good CB, he is better there. HUFF can cover, he can ballhawk, but he usually waits for the receiver to catch it before draggin them down, not goin after the ball or plowing the receivers brains outta his helmet, which is what great safeties do… Like LOTT.. Mitchell will be good beside TB, and hopefully EUGENE learns not to get slapped to the ground by a runner, or he is gonna be cut….
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
Wow
This could be the best front 7 in 20 years. Mix that with 3 excellent blitzing LB’s and a deadly secondary its going to be fun to attack teams from both sides of the field this year. Do the right thing Marshall and give’em HELL! Henderson might not be a starter come season time but he has a very good chance to otherwise he wouldn’t have signed here, there were several other teams trying to sign him. I think we can count on Heard not making the squad.
Can you imagine a DL of this…….
RE- Seymour
NT- Henderson
UT- Kelly
LE- Houston
Where would anyone run? Further if you mix up some blitzing in that type of line, HOly SHit .
"We're not going to be too quick to get all excited. We know it's a long season and anything can happen but as long as we stay focused throughout the way and we remain patient, we can be successful. It's when we start getting outside of ourselves and thinking we're this or thinking we're that, that's when things can get chaotic."
-Nnamdi "The Awesome One"
i think heard makes it
maybe practice squad, maybe starter… i hear he is good and smart, another bigboy….
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 11, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He will. There's definitely a need for a zero technique guy in some of the defensive looks we'll give this year
While remaining a primarily 4-3 man/press team, don’t be surprised to see some nickel 3-3-5 alignments and dime 3-2-6 looks. We’re loaded with guys who can cover and hit in the secondary, some great players who could almost convert to lb, others who could be corners, and it would be a crime to not unleash that talent by mixing it up.
Marshall will have won enough respect to experiment a little more, especially when the weaknesses on the defensive side are not easy exploits for our opponents going into the season.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I jizzed in my shorts when I found out John is a Raider..
Getting hit by Mike Mitchell is very similar to being hit by a car...going 90.
Well, if he's what we expect him to be, then I just put a little more hope into Rolando.
Getting hit by Mike Mitchell is very similar to being hit by a car...going 90.
MIA - ASO
I feel that Aso absence, while not providing the leadership we need from him, allows many more reps for WMcF and JFord, reps, even in preactice are a great thing for rookies and a team that is developing. However, even though he has earned the absence, would like to see him there coaching up his fellow CBs and challenging the WR corp, man if you can work against the very best corner in the league every single day, you get better, everytime every rep.
NO MERCY!
things are looking good
the only bad thing I can see coming our way is cuts! but maybe we can trade away a D lineman for O lineman? who knows. I do know its gonna be tough decisions in alameda come cut time!
somebody call Flozell
tell him to get his big ass to Oakland.
What in the world is going on here? We actually have a nice looking team being assembled!
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jun 11, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions
I'm more happy about this signing than the Campbell signing.
This guy is a former Pro-Bowler who addresses a need. I still am a Grad fan personally. Also I voted Rolando because he is going to be making the plays off of Hendo’s space-eating.
i love both
but i def like cambell more…. 1) Im not convinced al would have dumped jr w/o signing cambell. 2) cambell is a proven nfl starting qb. Bruce had a couple (literally) nice games. 3) our offense was garbage, shit, laughable, fucking pathetic last year.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jun 11, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I reading correctly? Mr. rat, are you actually giving the team the sudden benefit of the doubt?
You know where I stand on Flo. Get his ass here.
I will not be one bit surprised to see us make a move at the last minute on a couple of other tackles who haven’t signed tenders, when the getting is good.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
brhynno
Just calling it as i see it. Weve made some very sound logic based offseason moves. Drafted per our needs (not 40 times), etc.
2 more needs.
Off line
Al to keep his nose out of the defese, and not insist on man/man
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jun 13, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I respect you for remaining consistent in this aspect. No one can say you do not do this:
Just calling it as i see it.
Now for tackle weakness, and then, W’s, and being over .500.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
No on Flozell
He is done. I’d rather have a young guy out there learning how to be better than an old guy getting beaten like a drum with nothing to show for the experience…besides a dead QB.
Nothing will help the defense more than
an offense that scores more than 6 pts. a game, and controls the ball. If the offense controls the ball, and scores some TD’s the maligned defense will look an awfully lot better than it has looked. How many times did the offense go 3 and out, or how many times did Russell fumble near the 10 yd. line, or how many interceptions did he throw on the Raider side of the field. It is easy to blame the defense, but they got absolutely no help from the offense. I can’t imagine how discouraged a defensive player must have felt watching that pathetic offense last year.
I agree Laoren
Case in point, New Orleans. They won the superbowl w/ no terrifc defense to speak of…..
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Jun 11, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
naw, he just doesn't want to play in a full time 3-4.
We are a 4-3, that’s why he came here….
The RaiderLaker
The Raiders are starting to look like a legit playoff team for this year...
…I might have to start rooting for you guys as my AFC team. I do not have any official allegiances to the conference.
Hope that paper matches the field. I’d hate to see everyone’s hopes up for naught.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
…maybe I should read S&BP from the bottom up. Noticed the Seymour crap. I can only hope that someone wants to trade for him and you guys get some decent picks. With Henderson in the middle you can afford to have a serviceable NT beside him and have the LB’s fly around the field.
Was this a case that Al (had to resist the urge to call him the crypt-keeper) wanted to balance out the pile of excrement with Henderson and cover all bases?
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jun 12, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
No, this team was thin at DT.
Most on this blog have been begging for someone just like Henderson. I expect Seymour to be back. I think what is going on with Dick right now is pretty typical of franchised guys.
This is a great signing for our boy ’Ro! What do you think of the Death Ro nickname?
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 12, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Death Ro might take some time to get used to...
…after all, he was just ‘Ro’ to us.
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jun 14, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
WE SIGNED HIM?!??
I jumped out of my damn seat when I found this out. Now, it looks like we took care of the line even more. I am overjoyed to hear this, especially now that we have depth on the line. Period. I can’t wait for Pre-Season, to see just a hint of how we’re going to be,.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jun 12, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Found something regarding Henderson:
A league source said Jacksonville offered Henderson to the Raiders in April for a fourth-round pick, but Oakland was willing to give up only a fifth-rounder. (per: Chiefs blog in front page)
The RaiderLaker
Or Jacksonville GM really fucked up turning that one down.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 12, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
You, my friend, are a better man than I, in that aspect
and I apologize a thousand times for negative words about Al. I doubted him, bigtime, as did a great majority of the nation I know, even here on SABP.
Al, you are the man.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Your criticism of Al was warranted
just as the praise is now. No need to apologize. He makes his own bed.
by Rusty23 on Jun 12, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Herrera did
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 12, 2010 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You are mistaken.
Herrera puts on Al’s pants. Two legs at a time. Flores makes the bed.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 12, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice touch "two legs at a time" ... and Amy fluffs the pillow
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 12, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
trask
she doesnt fluff pillows, she fluffs him, and any woman cold hearted enough to get nasty with al, should be president. just sayin…
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 14, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know Al still needed his pillow fluffed.
The dark queen of the front office is a good choice for this position though.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 13, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL Who voted for Quentin Groves?
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
lmao! almost forgot about him!
Think he’ll make the team?
Slade Norris?
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Not sure about Groves - we have several pass rushers and Quentin hasn't been that good of a run stopper
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 12, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he'll make it. Solid depth and a great special teamer.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 13, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Groves voted for Groves!
I did read some quotes from Groves about Henderson and it sounds like he may have helped swayed Henderson’s mind towards the Raiders.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 12, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he'll have an exceptional year with a competent NT next to him..
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
That, and Mike Waffle who I am a huege fan of now
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 13, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I expect to see a completely different TK this year.
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
Not clear to me - do the Jaguars deny the trade report altogether
or just a portion thereof?
by Spirals galore on Jun 14, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
John Henderson is not yet on the roster, nor have they listed any transaction involving him
as of 2 minutes ago.
by Spirals galore on Jun 14, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
If I was the Jaguars, I would say they never offered the trade as well
since they come off looking like dumb asses for passing on the deal.
As far as I heard they did deny ever receiving a trade offer.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 14, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
…and another one:
Of course, it’s possible that the Jaguars have “put out” a denial to Stellino, and that he has opted to give the team he covers the benefit of the doubt. Really, without access to tape recordings of any conversations that may have occurred between the two teams, it’s impossible to know the truth.
This is Mike Florio’s view.
I wonder though – why aren’t the Raiders posting anything about the Henderson signing on their official site?
by Spirals galore on Jun 14, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
They'll post Henderson once he shows up to camp which... is next month July 28..............
I’m guessing they want to see him, and post his jersey number as well. Otherwise, how can a guy being a NT in a 3-4 get 3 sacks if he can’t play anymore. Look at Casey Hampton 2.5 sacks and 43 total tackles , Vince Wilfork 0 sacks but 43 total tackles. Then comes John with 36 total tacles and 3 sacks. (these stats are per Yahoo sports and NFL) But I noticed S&B Nation’s stats are different and more inflated and wrong!
The RaiderLaker
Thanks, J. She had me worried.
I do not question his ability whatsoever, either. Besides, its really the NT type guy we need, and more to anchor the line and bolster the run game. In him we have a guy who’s a proven pass rusher as well.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I was worried too haha Scared actually
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
henderson
he is on the depth chart, on the roster, fuch those idiotic media types.
here is a breakdown of our DT’s, starting with the bigboys (anyone over 300)
BOSCHETTI 6-4 311
HEARD 6-6 355
HENDERSON 6-7 335
JOSEPH 6-5 310
KELLY 6-6 300
SEYMOUR 6-6 310 (LISTED AS DE, BUT HE DOES SHIFT AROUND…)
HERE IS OUR SMALLER DT’S:
BRYANT 6-5 260
COOPER 6-5 280
HOUSTON 6-2 280
so it appears our line has some biggies on there, more than their smaller counterparts…. which is a good thing, we need some biggies to clog the center lanes, eat up blockers… damn i love football!!!
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 14, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Boshetti's over 300? I always thought he was in the 280 range.
And I’m almost positive Kelly ways more than 300 haha He’s easily 310 or 315. Bryant should be much bigger than 260 as well..
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
straight off the teams website...
and i think they always bill em a lil bigger, taller, etc… but yeah, i boschetti is listed at 311… i love that heards ass is sam adams size…
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 14, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Wierd haha I love Heards girth as well..maybe he can develop into something special
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
His head is bigger than Einstein's - he may be a genius... or idiot savant
"I voted for Al, he is clearly the GM of the year thus far we have made MAJOR improvements in all three phases of the game and this Henderson deal is just the icing, cream and cherries on the cake." - Ozraider
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jun 14, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I heard the reason his head is so big
is because they actually put Ted Williams head inside his…. And the Raiders are going to reap the benefits of this amazing and groundbreaking procedure!
I asked Heard about this when I ran into him while fly fishing. He doesn’t really like to talk about it, but let’s just say the way he was owning that river there is little to no doubt that when his career is over and he is walking down the street people are going to say, “There goes the greatest football player who ever lived.” So, we got that going for us.
I think when people are being funny, they are actually being serious and when people are being serious, it's actually really funny.
by Rich Langford on Jun 14, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1 rec'd
lmao… ur too much, noon… a damn comedian!
I'll Get Inside Your FACE!
by VaderBDCRaider on Jun 15, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
also rec'd! a comic genius is more appropos
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
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