Can Raiders overcome inevitability with current squad?
by B.A.Armstrong on Jul 18, 2010 5:19 PM PDT
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During my weekend downtime, something occurred to me regarding the Oakland Raiders. It seems like for the longest time, the Raiders and the NFL have been head-butting each other in a power struggle. I know they had a little run of success during the Gruden/Gannon era, but other than that stretch, the team has found very little success. Some say the NFL holds a grudge against the Raiders for all the courtroom maneuvering done by Al Davis over the years. Some say that every team has to overcome the bad official calls and injury bug. I think both sides are probably right to an extent.
However, the question remains to be answered: How will the young Raiders deal with the bad calls, actual committed penalties, and injury bug?
Louis Murphy had to get over a mental hurdle last year after two plays in which the ball may have been called a catch for a different team. After the second bad call against Houston, Murphy went through a string of dropped passes and missed opportunities. Therefore it is logical to say that the bad calls can get to an individual. And it is common sense to say that an individual's performance affects the entire team around him.
How about the no-calls that should've been penalties, like the time Hines Ward grabbed Chris Johnson and pulled Johnson into him in order to get around him and score a go ahead touchdown? How will the young Raiders deal with that kind of thing this year? Obviously, it did not have detrimental effects on the outcome of that particular game, but inevitably there will be a call that does affect the outcome like the aforementioned calls against the favor of the young wide receiver Murphy.
Bad calls, no-calls, and the injury bug can be the difference between a winning record headed into the playoffs and sitting at home on the couch watching the playoffs wishing you could partake in the excitement. The question that must be asked is if this team is good enough to overcome the inevitable in 2010.
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By hating us , they only elevate our rage !!
Fuck all the Raider Haters !!! We will win without your support !!
It's that empty feeling in my gut
again, like I just got sucker punched by some chump in a broncos hat. Time and time again I refrain from throwing my half drank budweiser at the TV and the dog jumps out of my way as my foot flies past her head and into the coping around the screen door. The neighbors are walking over with fresh baked cookies to console me as the slurry of profanities travel past the crunching turn of their childs bigwheel racing down the sidewalk. If only someone could explain to me how another “hater” posing as a blind punk in a zebra suit got a job refing a Raider game! This is our fate, we have lived it for decades, and it will not change. The only way to overcome this blatent hatred for our beloved football team by the referees is to play some serious, downright kickass football. No chumps! No losers! No Pussies! Just RAIDERS!!!!!
I had a little chicken and it had a wooden leg. Each and every morning it would lay me an egg. Was the best damn chicken that we had on the farm. Just another little drink wouldn't do us any harm.
by PegleggedRaider on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been a hallmark of all great Raider teams...
to overcome all those bad/missed/no calls and i have no doubt’s that this years team will be up to the challange.
you're exactly right
so the real question is: Is this one of those great Raiders teams?
What makes you say you have no doubt?
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Jul 18, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Great Perspective
One of the best articles by a Raiderfan I must say. Absolutely spot on, and great examples which I remember all to well. Every team will face injuries and bad calls, something that seems to plague the Raiders and with such a young team it brings up a great question. This team looks to have good leaders in place to bring the mentality needed to overcame and succeed. I hate to say it but most articles I read about the Raiders are usually overly optimistic from fans or littered with anti-Raider propaganda influenced by the national media ’s hatred for Al Davis. Neither are accurate, so I commend you on succeeding where in IMO so many have failed to report the truth inside the Silver and Black.
Sucks cause we even get burned on replays sometimes
What if it is not the NFL big wigs but maybe just the Refs. We might get judged by Raiders persona. Our dark image, the fact the we take on bad character players at times, all the unruly fans and maybe just the passionate fan (spikes, darth vader,….), Maybe they hear the rumbling of Al Davis too. I get so frustrated. Fumble=Tuck? Spiking the Ball after a catch=Incomplete Pass. Seems like these are judgement calls that hardly go our ways. thats what so confusing to me.
Every cloud has a silver lining. We have been bad for a while, but im startng to see the light and a plan. Character acquisition Previous drafts, current, and free agents. positive coaching hires, and keeping the head coach in place. decent quarterback, Al davis maybe coming to terms with his age and letting others making crucial decisions. maybe the refs could lighten up too.
refs against the RAIDERS
from that damn franco harris reception to that damn tom brady tuck fumble bullshit this years oakland raiders will be better on the field like they are on paper 9and 7 at worst 11and 5 at best the refs and the rest of nfl will not get in the way of our destiny .
Lest we not forget
Chris Johnson kneeling to pray after scoring a touchdown last season is unsportsman like conduct
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Jul 19, 2010 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions
These guys need to learn from their past.
The new millineum is proving that the Raiders can’t retaliate the way the 70’s Raiders teams could with close-lining players and ripping guys down by their face masks. These guys need to show their resolve by getting even on the scoreboard and with physicality in the trenches. The runners on the offensive side need to lower their shoulders and blast a defender when they try to go for their ankles. This team brought in alot of veterans who should lead by example as well as verbally. Richard Seymour shouldn’t be getting personal fouls or unsportsman-like conduct penalties like last year against a lesser team like the Browns. Nmamdi, Tyvon, John Henderson and Seymour need to be the leaders that winning teams rally around.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.
Bo Jackson
We still
need some hard hitting character players. I agree we cant play like in the 70s and 80s but we can still have Alzado, Hayes, Matuszak, Stabler etc etc type players that can do it and lead. Michael Irvin was a guy that would do it like the Raiders of past yet still perform on Sunday and during practice.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jul 19, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
To Alzadopunch: That's exactly what I'm saying.
The team needs character guys who will rally the other role players around them and lead. Those are the types of players who don’t let their frustrations show and get even within the rules of the game. I wouldn’t put Irvin in that same breath since the guy did have quite a few off-field indiscretions as well as being known as the founder of the offensive swim-move (aka: offensive pass-interference which never got called). He was a hell of a player otherwise and a winner unfortunately for me since I never liked Dallas.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.
Bo Jackson
Remember
Raider rule #1 Cheating is Encouraged. Well despite Irvin playing on the Cowgirls I will have to say he got away with it and they let it go. He came in and performed despite the off field distractions. Aikman even said he would come in to practice in the morning after a full night of partying just like Stabler studying the play book by the light of the jukebox.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jul 19, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
That is true to say they should stay true to the history of the franchise and Stabler is a great example of that.
I just don’t want anymore guys being found passed out drunk by cops in the backs of their cars or falling asleep in film rooms after throwing 7-24. I for one always said this Raiders team’s best chance to win now is close and ugly low scoring games won with good defense and clock management. Stupid penalties and turnovers lose those types of games. We should have swept KC the past 2 years but didn’t and this is the way to overcome that.
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.
Bo Jackson
ref's
Raiders just have to play that much better, if you whip the other teams ass the refs arent in play, if its a close game they need to count on calls going against them, and play that much harder and better.
Ohhhhh, You hit the Nail on the Head, with that one!!!
For Years, all those nail biter’s games, to many to list, use to drive me f*&king crazy !!!! Could never bet on them when points were involved!!! You would lose more than you would win !!! The Solution !!!!!! Run up the score as much as possible !!!! This way, you take the Ref’’s out of the picture. I don’t care what team you pull for, what kind of work you do, whether you’re Blk, White, green or blue. If you take all the BAD calls & No calls, put them on the same tape, and take a survey whether the Ref’s blew the call / nocall, I bet 99% would differ from what was actually done, or better said, exactly the opposite !!! Case in Point !!! “81” playoff game Against Denver. I think we were up by 4, Denver driving with Seconds left. Only way for them to win is a TD. Inside the 10, Rob Lytle Sweeps right for 6, 7 yards, when he’s met by Tatum at the 2, and is KNOCK OUT on his feet, fumbles the ball and Oakland recovers. The Call by the Refs, (MFKRS) The whistle had been blown and the play was dead, in between the hit and the fumble, the play was BLOWN DEAD!!!! NOW i’m still trying to figure out that one, still today. Ever sense then, my motto has been, Blow they’re Azz’s OUT !!! We have too many calls against us to play any other way !!!!!
FYI: That would have been the RAIDERS VS 49er’s in the SB !!!!! Could you IMAGINE !!!!
This is by far the dumbest article I've read in a long time.
The internet has given a voice to so many that don’t deserve one. How pathetic; an article talking about how to overcome ref calls? get some knowledge.
Why dont’ we dump the middle school excuses and get real.
Try being the worst drafting team in the NFL for 20 years. The worst 7 year stretch of any team in the HISTORY of the NFL.
Try being near last against the run for 7 straight years. Or what about being near the worst offense for the last 6 years.
You now have the old time Raider fan that actually remembers superbowl wins and greatness, and you have the new younger Raider fan that blindly thinks the Raiders are good every year and that their draft choices just need more time.
Try talking about the reasons the Raiders are so bad and why they are bad for so long.
Several paragraphs whining about ref calls? I’ve seen it all.
dude shut the fuck up and get outa here
i dont think anyone here cares what you have to say
by raiderfan4life on Jul 19, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
JPM4444, Congrats !!!
For being the first BUTHOLE HATER to show up !!!! LMAO !!! You’ve said NOTHING, that we havn’t heard before, so why are you wasting our time, and yours posting on our site!!! Oh thats right, Freedom of Speech etc.etc. You say we’re making “middle school excuses”, when were just stating the obvious. Blown Calls & No CAlls against the team we love. If you wasn’t so blinded by your OBVIOUS hated of the RAIDERS, you would at least have the sense(common, that is) to acknowledge what we are talking about on this Post!!! By the way, who’s your Team ? Have they even been to a Super Bowl? Played in, that is ? Won one ? If not, Take your PunkButHoleHatingAzz, back to your teams sight, where your opinion Might be Welcomed !!!
We Have always...............................
been the “bad guys in black” the refs are going to give us crap calls and that will probably continue . The good thing is that we have a chance to put up 21-30 points up every week (if our recievers and o-line hold up ) and if thats the case our d should be able to hold most opponents to 21 and under per game! This season will be exciting , our beloved Raiders should finish with a respectable record . Maybe even a post-season !!!! So if any referees are reading this (give our boys a fair shake , dont hate!!)
I am out until next time . GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!
Bongsmoke
This gave me a flashback ..
I’m still not over this ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taoJjvL9e7g
Two weeks later, someone does the exact same thing and they bring it up on ESPN (I was shocked that they gave the Raiders credit) and it was a touchdown! I forget who made the catch and the team, maybe someone remembers?
Over the years though, I’ve kinda gotten over the fact that when I watch a game .. The refs are always going to make bad calls against the Raiders. Maybe that’s why I’m such a die hard fan, and I never get discouraged no matter how many losing seasons we’ve had, or how many blown calls it seems the refs make .. It seems as though every win we’ve had, was because we EARNED it. We don’t get special treatment from the refs like some other teams do.
The Raiders almost hung on to win this game .. With JaMarcus as our QB .. I feel like if we would have won this game, our whole season would have been quite different .. (Would JR of still been a bum? Probably). San Diego barely beat us twice last year, with a horrible QB. I’m not saying Campbell is the best, but he is competent, and he won’t make as many mistakes as JR did. I feel good about this season. I can’t wait ..
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by RaiderCreator5150 on Jul 20, 2010 6:53 AM PDT reply actions
We are arguing the wrong issue here.
Im not arguing any of the calls. What I dont understand is how the call on the field are getting overturned. The Referee is clearly calling it a touchdown. Just like the tuck rule play. It was called a fumble on the field. To overturn is has to be not open to question or dispute; indisputable. In both plays I dont see the INDISPUTABLE evidence.
Water under the bridge
The immaculate reception, the tuck rule, the quick whistle in the 77 title game. Had these three decisions gone the Raiders way we would have been in 3 more Super Bowls. Nothing we can do about it now but when the refs ruled that Murphy’s TD catch against San Diego was no good, I knew the conspiracy was alive and well. Like someone already posted, we have to beat their 12 men each game. Go Raiders!
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