No Injuries at Day Two!
A tip of the hat to the sources: Tafur and McDonald.
First things first. What a stupid expression. When else would the first things be? Second and a half thing first and first thing fifth.
Wait, so the first thing is fifth? Wouldn't that make it the fifth thing and actually mean the second and a half thing is first? Enough of this semantics, this seems to important to just be a first thing; so, first and last thing first.
Tom Cable on the WR putting the foot in football:
There's no damage, anything like that. It's sore. We're going to have to work with him to find out what his workload is, what he can and can't do. We're going to have to deal with it, probably from here on out.
Schillens, who it was reported was less than ecstatic about the situation, said he is going to try and do one of the two-a-day practices each day starting Saturday. On Friday, he actually did less with his foot than Seabass, who kicked his first field goal of the year. The older I get, the sweeter it seems to be a kicker.
It seems much of the day was spent in live drills with no contact.
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- Gradkowski had a rough first half of practice and bounced back some in the afternoon. Some of this I am sure can be attributed to the understandable rust that has grown on his arm from the pec out. Grad is not really the kind of guy that is going to blow people away in practice anyway.
- The Defensive minds on this team have new toys and they are beginning to tinker. Groves got reps today at DE. Some of which were with the first team.
- Houston was seen asking Seymour for tips between plays. For my money, there is not a better player for Houston to learn from.
- I was worried about the RT position. But Langston Walker's confidence is putting those worries to rest. When asked about starting at RT he said, "Someone's got to start." That-a-kid. I am sure Campbell is sleeping better already.
- Stanford Routt missed some time today, but appeared to be fine at the end of the day.
- Kevin Ross, the new DB coach, is making himself a vocal presence in practices. I think Hue is contagious. Speaking of Hue....
- The defense likes to rub it in to Hue when they make a play. And they made some today. Mitchell, Thomas, Branch, Porter and William Joseph all were mentioned as getting at least one pick. That's right, William Joseph. After today's display of hands, Joseph is looking to be the first 800 lbs DB in the league.
- Mitchell is making some plays and missing some. It sounds like he is flying all over the field. It also sounds like he is getting anxious to start hitting something. At one point the coaches had to remind him it was no contact.
- Not surprisingly, Campbell has already found Miller to be a reliable target. Before the snap on one play Hue even told the defense the play was going to Miller and it did...for a completion.
- DHB had one drop and beat up the ground after. As of yet, the ground has not pressed charges. This was the only drop by him that was mentioned.
- DHB and Nnam stayed after practice again to work on the line release and jamming.
- JLH made a couple of plays in the passing game, but also had one bounce off his chest and muffed a punt.
- Not much mention of the rooks today. Sounds like Bush burned McClain on a cutback. Ford had a nice deep catch from Boeller. Really not hearing much about the rookie DB's. Make of that what you will. They must not be getting any picks and they must not be getting burned either.
- LaMarr Houston did not get into any fights today.
- 12 days 'til the first preseason game and we will be able to see these guys in action for ourselves.
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Thanks for the updates..Is it odd that I’m dissapointed in Houston for not getting in a fight? Haha.
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
I can't wait until he gets to piss off people that aren't on his team.
How many fights did he get into during college games? I don’t remember ever hearing that it was excessive, but it seems like he must have.
Maynard for Jesus.
by Rich Langford on Jul 31, 2010 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Bad idea, It's starting to annoy me now because it makes me think that he will do this in real games
and get a stupid 15 yard penalty, then we are all going to hate him if he really is nothing more than a hot-head. I see he has game, but will he lose his composure easily and be benched?
good point
he hasn’t stopped slapping people around since he arrived. There’s no question he is going to get flagged in games.
by Al's Wingman on Jul 31, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree there is no question he'll get flagged. It seems inevitable at this point,
but there is also no question he is going to create some flags for the other team too.
Maynard for Jesus.
by Rich Langford on Aug 1, 2010 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Mitchell is gonna blow up this season
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
"You know Michael Jackson told me to Beat it and I did when I heard the Raiders drafted McClain." - noontide
I was thinking the same thing
Actually I was thinking he is going to start blowing things up this season. The biggest thing holding Mitchell back is he is behind Branch. It’ll be interesting to see how the coaches get him on the field.
Maynard for Jesus.
by Rich Langford on Jul 31, 2010 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions
it seems like Marshall has some interesting packages up his sleeve
I am sure they will put him in a position to knock people out just like the should.
The spirit of Tatum is strong on this one.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
"You know Michael Jackson told me to Beat it and I did when I heard the Raiders drafted McClain." - noontide
I almost feel bad for any WR’s crossing over the middle this year..
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..........almost
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"You know Michael Jackson told me to Beat it and I did when I heard the Raiders drafted McClain." - noontide
Most worried about fullback
There is potentially potential, maybe, with Chane Moline, Marcel Reece and Manase Tonga…But, that group does not inspire a lot of confidence going into the season due to their lack of real NFL experience. The Raiders need to fix this and find a real fullback before September.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about fullback.
You are right though, FB looks pretty grim. I gotta believe they’ll sign someone who gets cut. Just give me someone who can pick up a block or two and I’ll be happy.
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by Rich Langford on Jul 31, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
We need a fullback that will be there 1, for pass protection, especially this year because Fargas is gone and he all too often was picking up the pass rusher when the fullback failed. 2, a real fullback that will allow McFadden to get in space and flatten a linebacker to allow Bush to get his big momentum rolling is just what is needed.
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by TheRaiderWay on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm rooting for Tonga.
Not because I know that much about him but how cool would it be to have a tough SOB Fullback named Tonga? “Candygram for Mr. Tonga.” “Tonga like candy!”
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Tonga
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Thanks for the info.
That’s about as much as I know about him. Was he decent? Does he have a mean streak?
My quote by the way was from Blazing Saddles. If you haven’t seen it, rent it this weekend.
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I knew the quote. Movie is awesome.
“Where the white woman at!”
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according to nfldraftscout
Tonga is a great receiving and running FB, but blocking doesn’t see to be his strong suit:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559295
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blazin saddles much?
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by VaderBDCRaider on Aug 2, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I think
We can have our TEs in as FBs. The pats do it sometimes with their TEs.
And if I remember correctly, Brandon Myers is a great blocker no? I think Cable should give him a shot.
If not TE, then how about Bruce Campbell? I know he’s huge, but athletic enough. I think it can be possible, if not interesting.
We can even have a LB in, but I don’t think we have any LBs for the FB duties that I can think of.
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Myers is solid and flashes bigtime ability, but great is a stretch
I believe Rock Cartwright will see some time at FB, but more in a Crockett like capacity in short yardage situations.
We are still lacking at the position, but more importantly I believe, at tackle altogether, not just right tackle. While I know Mario is being named the starter, I remain in question of his ability to be great at this level.
Get the starting left, and we have the right tackle problem solved, and it would probably be Mario or Langston, and the right side will look great with Campbell eventually getting the starting RG job, and it showing mostly notable improvement.
Looking forward to see what cream rises to the top by preseason, and who emerges in the four games. I’ll be taping and watching everything! Can’t wait! Real position battles!
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Brandon is probably our best blocker from the 'skilled' positions. Putting him in at FB makes good sense and opens the
option for him to release for short passes. Rumor has it Myers will be seen in the backfield, perhaps in pre-season.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 1, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you forgotton about Rock Cartwright?he may not be listed as a FB,but i think he could play that position vary well.J,Campbell said that Rock is a great blocker and reads the D well and he also has good hands,he is a load when he gets going down hill.
Cartwright is a nice player that can fill in here and there, but I don’t think he’s a legitimate fullback in terms of being a lead blocker. He can play it in a pinch, but he’s really a running back and a pretty good performer all over on special teams. I hope he makes the team over Bennett.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 31, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
The Pass Catching With The Blocking Is Very Important...
let him play off a block that causes the defender to slow just slightly while he clears behind for the shot pass and breaks into the open to take on a “LB” head-on with force….I just love “SmashMouth” plays….
by PantyRaider on Jul 31, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Cartwright isn't big enough to play fullback
he’s just not built to block defensive lineman. Rock is better carrying the rock. I bet he’s got a lot left. At this point I’d rather see him get the carries through the line than McFadden. He’s got moves, speed and doesn’t just fall down like McFadden does when he gets tapped.
Per Henry Wofford of CSN, Louis Murphy did not practice this morning.
Out with concussion. Injured yesterday after taking a knee to the back of his head
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 31, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions
Yeah, saw that
I hate concussions. The damage is cumulative, so you hate to see players getting any, especially in practice. Hope he’s OK and that they give him time to recover before he gets out there again.
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Had I known that about Louis, I'd have voted for the wideout position here...
strictly for the words Murphy and concussion being mentioned in the same sentence.
If Murph misses over half of this season we’re in trouble; lets hope the concussions remain at a minimum. I wouldn’t mind some free agency depth here, but expect Jacoby Ford to be an integral part of Hue’s playbook, much as the combo of he and Spiller spelled nightmares for opposing defenses.
Is Nick Miller still around and healthy?
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don't count it out.
Ford very well can surprise if he takes Murphy’s place. He is very fast, and VERY quick, and he appears to have reliable hands according to camp updates.
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Schillens has me worried again
This is starting to sound like a Yao Ming scenario after he broke his foot in the playoff with the Lakers.. He has not been the same and now talking about retiring..
Naw, I believe it's different beacause Yao is like 7'7 feet tall which means his foot is in a lot of pressure and can't heal well or fast, plus he's old.
Chaz is not that tall, and he is younger so it can heal fast, I just think he needs more time and should wait ’till the last pre-season game to test it out and be ready for the season.
Hmm I dunno ...
At this point i don’t think that matters.. All the planting and cutting he is going to have to do might just make this a worse scenario .. I m just hoping it gets right i would love to see him reach his full potential.
Mitchell vs. Houston in anger management on the field
Who gets out 1st?
This is my sig, what do I do with it?
My money is on mitchell, assuming he gets a running start.
If mitchell is the next coming of jack tatum, and houston is the second coming of Howie Long(who i think is his HoF potential), who do you think will win?
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If this guy comes anywhere close to even flashing the brilliance of Howie Long, I'll be ecstatic.
I think what he’ll bring to the front seven and more importantly the interior line and run defense will be key; how much I’ll need to wait and see. I can’t wait to see his combination of size, speed, strength, and athleticism in action.
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4yrs or less in experience !!!!
This has me worried more than anything right now. I listed their intanginbles in POST: The Begining of the Begining, HT, WT, 40 times of all our receivers on the roster now. None have more than 4 yrs experience. Schilens foot, seems like is going to be in question !!! Murphy came down with a concussion today, how bad, who knows !!! Hopefully minor !!! If Chaz is not a go, in the near future, we’re looking at 2nd year players as our starting WO’s. Going after T.O., might have been a good move !!!! I’ll say it again, Does anyone has Marvin Harrison Agent’s phone number ?
When is Plexico getting out ? Maybe Dallas will give up …… what’s his name that didn’t get his contract re-done, oh yeah, Clayton !!! I really think this needs to be look at, SERIOUSLY !!!!
We shall repeat what we said when the TO posts were up here:
We do not want ANYONE ON THIS TEAM who has a BAD REPUTATION that can poison our young WRs. This philosophy is shared by the pats, colts, ravens, saints, falcons, etc.
These are winning teams I am mentioning. They have a clean, and TEAM like locker room. We already have that, and bringing in Plaxico(when he comes out), TO(if he didn’t sign with the bengals. gotta like that ego in that locker room now…) will not help us at al!
If Clayton somehow gets out of retirement, or Harrison somehow gets out of retirement, then maybe we should look into them. BUT ONLY FOR LEADERSHIP!!!
If you expect old WRs to come into our system with no experience, and put up good numbers right off the bat, you are very mistaken. I
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Thought you meant the guy who retired, who was on the ravens.
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i think he might have been talking about Patrick Crayton
tatum, davidson, romanowski, wisniewski...LET'S GET NASTIER!!!!
by angelesoterica on Aug 1, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I Have To Agree But Would Still Make An Exception....
Not at “WR” but at “DT”…I’m hoping Henderson has enough left and Seymour doesn’t start to show that age…But the addition of Hainsworth into the rotation would be very nice if he could be had as cheaply as “JC” and would restructure his money to be more reasonable…
Houston-Seymour-Kelly-Shanasty…..Richardson-Henderson-Hainsworth-Scott….
Now we have fresh bodies all season long…
by PantyRaider on Jul 31, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Haynesworth is not worth it imo, because he is already being a drama queen(so to speak) in the redskins.
Not even most of his teammates want him anymore, especially london fletcher, their LB(if I got the name wrong my mistake).
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Pay Attn !!!
Not sure what point you’re trying to make !!! U seemed a little confused. Other than u got a bug up your azz about T.O. 60 recepts last year was more than both of our starting receivers combined. Re-read my post for some clarity. 1) 4yrs exp., that’s all 2 of our current receivers have. The rest have less.We counting on Chaz, who has the most experience. If the foot becomes a problem, Should we be looking for some help, now ??? That’s All i’m saying !!!! The last thing this team need’s is to look like their one dimenitial.
I was saying that the help you are looking for(ie. TO) is not the right help in terms of progression for our younger WRs.
Dude, we have 3rd year player on the pats, who are stepping in as leaders. Know why? because they had GREAT teachers with them. Rodney Harrison for Meriweather. Bruschi and vrabel for mayo and our LB core. We had Seymour, still have wilfork and warren, who DEFINITELY helped out with our guys Mike Wright(5 sacks last year i think), and last year’s rookie Pryor(who had I think 2 sacks in the very few games he played in. Although not affected by seymour).
We need GREAT TEACHERS the most because they are what the young players BOND TO and LEARN FROM. Do we need Louis Murphy and our other young ones BONDING TO and LEARNING from a guy like TO or Plaxico Burress? I will NOT!!!
Also, TO SUCKED with the bills. Trust me when I say that he dropped a helluva bunch of footbals thrown to him, 60 rec. or not. The bills bring in TO to HELP THEIR WR CORE, and TO DID’T DO ANYTHING!!! This is THE BILLS we are talking about. They are pretty much WORSE than the raiders!
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What solutions are you thinking of now? Who do you think will come in, and contribute right away? I'm interested in hearing this, not because I want to be a dick, but because I like this debate. :)
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i think we should call up
THE G.O.A.T. “Jerry Rice”
BRING HIM OUTTA RETIREMENT, BUT SOME BANDAIDS ON HIS JOINTS, AND SHOW DEM YOUNGSTERS HOW AN OLD BUCK DOES IT.
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by VaderBDCRaider on Aug 3, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm so pumped!
Can’t wait for the season to begin! I’m feeling a lot more confident in our team this year. 8-8 would be amazing! Hopefully we can achieve this.
I Fully Expect More
We have the possibility/probability of being in “PO” contention….Either as a “WC” or as “AFCW” champs….I fully expect this team to pursue that and 10 "V"s w a 4-2 “AFCW” record would be the target to get us there…
The "MuleHead"s n "Squaw"s are in just as much doubt as us and the "LightningBug"s are losing ground…Time to clip their wings and shut down those little annoying blinking lights…Too dim to have any long term benefit to mankind…
Chemical Energy…Who the hell needs it…Just Nuke’em Baby!!!!/_
Definitely. I believe the demise of SD, and Denver will be as key as our own improvement in the division
I expect the Chiefs to surprise, but only to win a few more games than most anticipated. Do not forget, they came on strong at the end of last year and some guys emerged, and they, like us, have made some key improvements in the offseason, and find themselves with an all star coaching staff that have a very solid collective record in this league.
I’m expecting a run at the playoffs too, and will be disappointed otherwise. We cannot be satisfied with mere improvement from dismal, and near the bottom of the league.
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Yeah
SD will falter and Denver is well Denver. KC is still trying to crawl and are in serious trouble at 80% of positions. We will improve due to attrition from the rest of the division.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 2, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Any news on Kellen Heard ????
I’m really big on this U.D.R.F.A.- D.T. @ 6’6’ 350 LBS
I feel like a drooling Homer Simpson….
"think of the solution not the problem"
Haven't heard anything recent about him or Henderson
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 1, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I preferred his inflated pre-draft status of 6'7", 355...
sounds more menacing. Unfortunately the only film you can find on him is of the late hit on Colt McCoy!
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I'm glad to hear that Darrius Heyward-Bey is playing well in camp.
It would be a nice lift to the offense if he can step up and have a solid year.
I still wish the Raiders had brought in a veteran wide receiver but hopefully this group will continue to grow and develop some chemistry with Jason Campbell.
8-8 ??
I know I’m an optimist, but I have this team pegged at 10-6 and that will win the AFC West this year. These guys have some spirit and and truly believe the Raiders Are gonna be the surprise team of the season, plus we have some better coaching on the sidelines as well.
If they go 8-8, I’ll be O.K. I guess, but Not ecstatic, I fully expect better with the dead weight gone and better coaching on the sidelines this year, along with the players themselves wanting it, Not just collecting pay checks.
I agree with brhynno and PantyRaider, Chargers are fading, Broncos are having a love fest with Tebow while their top 2 RB’s just went down to injuries, and pissing off Orton. And yes, K.C. is much improved as well, I think it’s a shoot out between us for the AFC West, we can and will beat the broncos and chargers, it’s K.C. we Must win against for the AFC West title.
Plus I’m not counting out another signing in a key position, before the season starts, I don’t think the Raiders are just standing pat.
This is a young team that will make mistakes, but also one that will play over the top and win some that no one would think.
The defense is gonna Hit and the Offense won’t be prone to the excessive 3 and out’s or fumbles by what’s his name.
So yeah, Attitude, spirit and the guys on board, I think 10-6 is not a reach.
I picked RT ..
But I’m more concerned about our entire offensive line not named Gallery (as long as he stays healthy .. So i guess I’m concerned about everyone) .. I think they play just fine though with JC behind center. WR is a close second though .. I mean, look how thin that leaves us when Murphy and Schillens are down .. Our number one turns into DHB, and though he’s shown improvement, does anyone really think he’s ready to take on that role? For the money he’s getting paid, you’d think so .. But I’m afraid that the extra pressure would only set him up for further failure. I’m behind DHB though for at least putting in effort after practices with Nnamdi. At least I can’t say he’s not trying ..
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by RaiderCreator5150 on Aug 2, 2010 8:59 AM PDT reply actions
KILL THE CHARGERS!!!!!!!!!
14 straight losses will be unbearable! I’ll go to jail for killing an innocent Chargers fan! Well, there really is no excuse for being a Charger’s fan, and while it doesn’t warrant murder…lol!
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