Training Camp: Day 126 or Thereabouts
The Raiders underwent two fairly uneventful practices on Monday. At this point, that is probably a good thing. Most of the news that would be noteworthy would be of the "suck" nature. In that regard, there was some such news. Chris Johnson left practice with a tight hamstring.
Given the Raiders treatment of similar tight spots, CJ will probably not see the field on Saturday. With the youth in the secondary this may not be a bad thing. Let's see what the fresh meat has to offer.
Also, put Routt out there against the team's number one. Let him get burned, because it seems like he and the team live in a delusional fantasy land in regards to the lad's talent.
My guess is that Cable understands Routt's limitations, but is pressured to play him. When asked about it, Cable had this to say:
I think there’s been a change in Stan in terms of how he works at it and the intensity that he’s working at it with. It’s just like everybody, you want to see it carry over to the game, but I’ve been very pleased with him thus far.
Yes, we do want to see it carry over to the game Tom. I am not sure why Cable just doesn't come out and say, "You know what? Routt kind of blows. He is making good money and he isn't worth it. He had one good game last year and he was sitting back in a zone, but we are a man team and he has all the skills to succeed in man. I don't get it. In fact, if I was Stan I'd just quit, since I really wasn't getting any better."
Okay, he didn't say that, but we can read between the lines. For what it's worth, the comment confounded Routt and Routt's comment incensed me. He just doesn't seem to get it, nor does he seem to care much. Routt:
I appreciate the kind words, but in my opinion, my approach hasn’t changed. I just go out every day to get better, and whatever happens, happens.
Um...Stan, maybe something should change, because when whatever happens, happens it is usually only good for the team playing your team. Or your pocket book. To my surprise, Routt was not surprised about the tender he received this offseason. Routt:
I really wasn’t surprised, based on the longterm deal we were negotiating at the time.
I am glad they didn't get that long-term deal done. Also, what the hell were he and his agent thinking turning down any deals in the neighborhood of the yearly salary he is going to receive this year?
Routt is climbing up the public enemy list. Easing down that list a bit may be Tommy Kelly. Kelly offered some candid comments about his huge contract and his expectations and evaluation of his play. When asked about signing his deal, Kelly had this to say:
Oh, I felt the pressure the night my agent called me. I was like, What the fuck? It was a surprise to me, but you just got take on the challenge. But ... can't let no pressure get (to you). With this game, as long as you put in your work in the offseason, and get yourself ready for the season, it going to give back to you what you put into it.
Ha! You were not alone in that sentiment TK. Still, it is nice to see an athlete admit such things. It does raise the question as to what the hell the Raiders were doing in those negotiations. It seems like they may have been able to sign him for 10 million less or so. Running Backs through the hole in the bridge at this point, however.
For his part, Kelly admitted that last year, he was like a good player only opposite. This is not surprising given his revelation that he was playing while pregnant. Kelly:
Yeah, I had a baby in this stomach last year. So, I kind of had my baby. When I came in for OTA, I was about 315. Last year, I was about 350.
To everyone's joy, Kelly gave birth to a wonderful 35 pound baby in the offseason. He showed up at this camp weighing 315 and he is confident his play will improve because of it. Kelly:
You got to know your own skill-set. It’s kind of obvious after last year that I can’t play with that much weight and be the best kind of player I can be. You got to do what’s best and what fits you. I’m strong enough and tough enough to play the nose, so I’m not even worried about it.
Kelly's teammates realized he was carrying a little extra last year. They had made a joke out of guessing what weight he'd report to camp at this year. Khalif Barnes:
Some guys were like, `He might be 345 or 350, somewhere around there.' But when he came in, the guy looked great . . . he’s looking slimmer, still strong and has that get-off.
Kelly has been seen putting in extra training in this years camp. Even going so far to do boxing drills to help fight off the hands of the offensive lineman.
The season will tell if this pays off for him and consequently the team, but just the fact that he is trying helps start to change my opinion on him. It also solidifies the thoughts that the culture of this team has changed. The slackers are a dying breed. Which makes comments like Samson Satele's stick out. When asked about the play he forgot to block that resulted in a sack, Satele had this to say:
Just go off of what you saw. If it’s me it’s me. It is what it is. It’s preseason.
In all fairness, it was a gang rape of the QB on that play and had Samson blocked a guy, Campbell still would've been sacked, but if you are going to bother to take the blame, do it all the way. This just displays the kind of victim attitude I am tired of.
Samson, everyone in the world saw you whiff and it may be preseason, but your new QB got hit just like it was the regular season. Is it really that hard to take more accountability than that? Is it that hard to say, "Boy, I was bad on that play and I am going to work to fix those kinds of horrible plays." Get with the program Samson, this line needs you.
It also needs Mario Henderson. Cable knows this and he knows Mario is the kind of guy that needs extra incentives to get his maximum effort. Hence extra push-ups for Henderson when he messes up. 50 per mistake to be exact. Henderson on the results:
It gets you into good habits, and when you are playing tackle, playing well has to become a habit. I have to not even think about it, to get to a certain spot with my hands in the right place.
Cable did go on to point out after practice that Henderson does a nice job in the running game, both frontside and backside, and that he looks good on play-action plays. He also said:
The other things I like. I'm talking specifically about being a dropback pass protector in that one-on-one game.
Other notable notes:
- Take Zach Miller in your fantasy leagues. The one thing holding him from the upper tier of TE's was his lack of TD's. If practices are any indication, he is going to get his this year. Campbell seems to be looking for him first and last in the redzone and pretty much everywhere else on the field. Campbell on Z-Mill:
You have to have a guy who creates space on the inside. Zach is a guy that creates that space for us and helps draw some of that attention away from those guys on the outside.
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Cable has noticed who is buttering his bread. Cable on the aforementioned chemistry:
I like it. I really like it with that whole group, but those two guys are really starting to develop something, for sure. You take him in the red zone; you need a touchdown in that situation. You saw who he went to.
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Every team has a weak link
Unfortunately for the Raiders, the weak link is at one of the most important areas, the offensive line and the weakest link there is Satele. It’s a shame that we have to convert a LT prospect to a center, but the Raiders need a stout center that will hold his ground, and the only one on the current roster that may be able to do that is Veldheer. I see no way this offense can succeed this year with Satele at center.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
Do you think it's possible for Veldheer to be ready to start at Center this year?
I’d be surprised and impressed if he was. I had hoped Satele would be improving in year 2 of the ZBS, but those hopes are fading.
When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble give a whistle...
by Rich Langford on Aug 17, 2010 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the look of Veldheer and his makeup
but whether he will be ready or not, I don’t know. We may not have a choice and if Veldheer can at a minimum, hold his ground and not get manhandled, then it will have to do.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Aug 17, 2010 2:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of weak links, cornerback depth concerns me a bit.
I don’t really mind Chris Johnson opposite of Asomugha all things considered, but no one else has impressed me yet between Joey Thomas, Walter McFadden or Jeremy Ware. I know McFadden and Ware are rookies, but I don’t know if either can be the nickel right away. It may unfortunately have to be Routt. Here’s hoping somebody steps up in the final preseason games to win the job.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 17, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he's weaker than Carlisle.
Satele started last year like this but I thought he got better as the year went on. That said, I don’t think he’s the long term answer at center. Good news is the team seems to realize it i.e. Velheer’s work at center.
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I Just Don't Know What To Make Of This...
Kelly still has a penchant for jumping offsides at his new position at nose tackle and hasn’t been conspicuous in terms of blowing up running plays or rushing the passer.
What…Is he now playing in a 3-4 scheme…
Now some damn stupid “Mediot” (J-Mac) is trying to throw hot coals on a barely smoldering conception that change is indeed on it’s way…To Al’s “D”…Unheard-Of!!!…
How dare he!…How dare He!…The noive of some idiots…Why the Noive!!!…
Reading on…
Kelly is fine with moving to nose tackle, making room at the three-technique spot for Richard Seymour, saying, `We’re both going to get doubled, we’re both going to get chipped.’’
So instead of getting bigger to play nose tackle _ the position is traditionally occupied by players who looked like fire hydrants _ Kelly slimmed down.
I’m strong enough and tough enough to play the nose,….
So now that I’m thoroughly confused I don’t quite know what to make of this reporting…Maybe it’s just the way they distinguish between the “LDT”-n-“RDT” saying “NT”-n-“3 Technique” but that certainly seems a little suspicious to me…
Dare We Say “J-Mac” Let Something Slip!!!/_
It may have more to do with John Henderson's performance:
And that performance moving Kelly to the bench with Seymour moving to the 3.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 17, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting...So Make Kelly A "NT" So He Can Warm The Bench...
by PantyRaider on Aug 17, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He'd be the nose behind Henderson:
Bryant and Seymour would play the 3.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Well I Guess I'm Still Confused...
In the past the designation “NT” was used to signify the “DT” in a 3-4 scheme…I just never heard it used as a designation between the “LDT”-n-“RDT” before…Could you fill me in as to why…
by PantyRaider on Aug 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
TK: Still Strong ????
I’m sorry but, But playing 5 yards in front of the line of scrimmage, After starting 1 yard in front, isn’t what I’d call holding his ground !!! 3 running plays up the middle, with him going backwards, reminded me of dude playing Michael Orr in The Blindside, u kno, That part when he blew the DT that was talking all that shit, after Sandra Bullock gave him the pep talk, all the way thru the End zone and over the wall !!!! Far as the corner position, if push comes to a big shove, Huff might have to make the move over !!! Not that I’d be thrilled with the idea of HIRAM starting at the free !!! Veldheer dosen’t know all the calls, or hasn’t seen enough defensive schemes , to make those calls….. YET !!!! Simple as that !!!
The ZBS is Cable's achilles heel. If our O disappoints again the cause can be traced to our failure to Power Block
We have both the Size and the Inexperience (Soup & Dutch) that recommend the PBS. But no, ZBS will be pursued despite every indication that it doesn’t suit our personnel or game style. I’ve come to like Tom over the post/pre season but If this line doesn’t improve, I’ll turn on Cable b/c the O-line, more than any other element, is his special project.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 17, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree about the ZBS and the players not being suited for it.
Gallery did jack shit before being moved to LG and was playing in Cable’s zone blocking scheme when doing so. Carlisle has never been known as more than an adequate blocker. His weak point has always been pass protection and not run blocking. He was brought in because of his experience in the ZBS while working with Alex Gibbs. As for the rookies, I’m not a big follower of Hillsdale football so I don’t know much about Veldheer. However Bruce Campbell ran alot of zone blocking while at Maryland. I agree adding more power blocking to the plays to get more production out of McFadden, around the goal-line and also in the 4th if and when we have a lead so the defense is winded. However this O-line’s problem hasn’t been run blocking. Its been pass protection and also having to block for a defensive tackle with the brain of a Pop Warner tard being paid to play QB. I think this team’s failures in the trenches will be more of an issue of the talent playing those positions moreso than the scheme itself. With that said I thought the McClain pick was the right decision at that time since this team is trying to create an identity and that is playing hard-nosed defense. The offensive line will be improved over last year just because of the subtractions made to it, particularly at right tackle and QB.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
Carlisle's experience with ZBS makes my point - he's on his way out and I hope ZBS is as well. It's designed for
small quick 0-linemen and b/c it was Cable’s forte’ and Kiffin wanted it, it’s lingering on past its usefulness. Veldheer and Soup are beasts perfectly designed for Power Blocking and straight up passblocking – old school. This got us to our SBs and will again. If Gallery became better is has everything to do with moving from OT and, simply, Gallery getting better – and not b/c of the haywire thing called ZBS.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 17, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
"ZBS"s Strong Point Was The Run...
That’s was the projected advantage of that scheme…You could use smaller less than top talented "OT"s and still be productive with highly Mobile "G"s-n-“C”…The teams who ran it were known for their running ability like Atlanta n Denver who kept producing 1,000yd rushers…
Our problem last season and so far in this preseason is not committing to the run while trying to pass behind an inadequate “OL” that hasn’t shown the ability to protect the "Q"s…
by PantyRaider on Aug 17, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Spot on Observation:
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 17, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, I feel like I’m overly optimistic when it comes to Mario Henderson and Tommy Kelly. I sure feel bad for all you guys when they show who they really are and produce, produce and produce.
Mario is a beast. He’ll show that this week when he puts Peppers on his back. And TK has always been a better than average DT. Stats don’t lie. Yeah, ’09 was a bad year for him. But, with Henderson and Seymour playing next to him, I expect a career year from him.
True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing
Ha! An old them "With Gallery playing next to Mario, etc." Now its, "With John and Dick next to Tom..blah blah blah
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

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