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DHB was on the field Wednesday, but he didn't run any routes and only participated in a limited amount of drills. He did, however, do some serious stretching. Also, he was seen sporting an addition to his uniform. It was a tight compressing like wrap and it was around his left thigh.

An astute reporter asked Cable if perhaps DHB had some hamstring issues and that was why he has not been practicing. Cable:

No, more fatigue than anything.

Whatever, it seems apparent that DHB has some hammy issues. I have no idea why they wouldn't say that. I for one, welcome the thought of him nursing a hammy over the other discussed possibilities. No one bothered to ask if he flew to the Dagobah System.

It does create a curious situation for Saturday. The club will have a hard time saying they held him out of a game, because of fatigue, yet given their treatment of tight muscles I don't see them letting him play. Cable himself reiterated their cautious nature when he was asked about Chaz Schillens being held out of practice. Cable:

Just protecting, yup. I'm doing that quite a bit. I know you guys are wondering about it, but just really trying to be more proactive on the smart side and take care of these guys.

On that note, he then ruled out McFadden for Saturday's game. Cable:

He is much, much improved and he is pretty close to being ready to go but, again, I am probably going to lean toward being more protective now.

It also looks like Bruce Gradkowski will miss the game as well. Cable said Brennan will "probably" get some snaps. Things are definitely falling into place for Kyle Boller and he appears to be taking advantage of it. Cable on Boller:

He’s doing well. The game against Dallas speaks for itself, and he’ll get another opportunity this weekend to see if he can consistently do that.

Star-divide

  • Cable didn't mention Chris Johnson, but he was held out again and I suspect will be out on Saturday.
  • Cable took another opportunity to praise his new LB's while putting down the previous ones. Cable on Wimbley:

    The thing I am most excited about is Dallas ran three power plays in there and, for the first time since I have been around here, our ‘Sam’ backer stood up the fullback all three times. That’s what he brings. He understands what you’re asking him to do; plays it the way you’re asking.

  • Yamon Figurs is pushing for a roster spot. He is reported to have made the catch of the day.
  • Jeremy Ware practiced with the first team nickel today. The coaches have been rotating the rooks through this spot. Assuming CJ is out on Saturday, it'll be interesting to see who the nickel is with the first string.
  • And now for Hue Jackson's moment of zen. It was directed at everyone and prompted by Khalif Barnes jumping offsides. 

    Get me another left tackle. We ain’t doing that no more. We can’t be jumping offside. You do, you’re out of there.

  • Brandon Meyers left practice early to get his hand x-rayed after a pass bounced off his finger. Sanjay should tell him that is an ineffective way to catch. I haven't heard the results of the x-ray. 
  • Alex Daniels showed off his defensive experience today when he had a ball bounce off of his hands for an interception. It'll be interesting to see if he gets a pass his way on Saturday.
  • Jacoby Ford is reportedly back at full speed. 
  • Jared Veldheer repordetly did a nice job handling Matt Shaughnessy on back to back snaps. Not much, I know, but I'll take it. There were no reports of him getting beat.
  • I am off to Cannon Beach. I love that place, which makes me even more aware of what an addict I am. It's sick that it even crosses my mind, but the thought of not being able to follow the Raiders on Gameday gives me the fear. So, let's get down to the brass tacks, I expect to see thorough analysis of the game on this fine site upon my return Sunday night! Go Raiders!
  • And as always a tip to the hat of the men and women covering the dog days of camp:

    Corkran and Tafur and Gutierrez and AP

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________ will have the best rookie season out of the guys picked after the 2nd round.
Veldheer
319 votes
Campbell
209 votes
Ford
401 votes
McFadden
148 votes
Goethel
31 votes
Brown
49 votes
Boyd
29 votes

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Tom calls it "proactive" and it's the new (actually old) policy replacing the short-lived (and popular) policy of "open competition at all positions"

Examples of the regress to last year’s entitlement mentality are DHB and DMC – who are at the top of the depth chart despite and regardless of their training camp and preseason achievements.

if Tom’s weight loss is connected to his reemerging lack of confidence, then he may have unlocked a boon to millions of afflicted Americans – “The Tom Cable Fear Diet”

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 19, 2010 6:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I am not having a lot of faith

I just am doubtful of DHB and McBroken. I will not completely make final judgment on the bustometer until the season is at game 6-8 and look at productivity and IR status combined and also add in some hard break issues should they arise (a very hard blind side hit etc etc). What I hope for is another to emerge because I feel Schilens is a porcelain doll and he will not contribute heavily. Me thinks Murphy is the man with Miller.
And despite what someone else posted regarding DHB and his non productivity in the 1st preseason game he is in part responsible for the ball getting to him. Yes JC must look his way but it is also DHBs job to get separation in order to make it feasible to get the ball to him. If he can’t break from coverage then he doesn’t get the ball its that simple, where the fuck is all this speed I have been hearing about?

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 7:37 AM PDT reply actions  

+1

DHB’s tightness of muscles is, in my view, at least partially related to psychological distress. I am saying this because recently I discovered how stress makes my legs cramp and how important breathing is for easing up those cramps. It’s hard to focus on breathing deeply when you are stressed, but if you do, the stress recedes. Stretching is good, but prolonged resting only results in more cramping.

by Spirals galore on Aug 19, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

You are very wise. I try to convey this to my patients but they usually look at me like I am nuts but of course they are neurotic and/or type A personalities.

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

D-mac worries me.

I think they should rest him until opening day v titans. Get him all the time off he needs. We dont need any minor lingering season long injuries. We need him.

DHB - could care less if he suits up or not. Lets see what Jacoby has got. Im excited about that dude.

Grads— Give him the time he needs now to be right for the season. But he is our 2nd string qb. If all goes as planned we should see nothing of him all year. So im not too worried about that situation either. Boller is a capable #2 anyways.

Jay Richardson— no mention of him. that worries me as well. We need him…. Can you have knee surgery 8/17 and be back at full strength for game 1? I hope so.

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I will tell you

It depends. What the “real issue is”. The team will never tell unless its a total blow out. If its just a clean up and scope he will be good in 2-3 weeks probably. If they need to actually do some repair it also depends. As for McBroken I throw the towel in on him………….. well actually I just wave my hands cuz if I throw a towel at him he may go down with and MCL blow out or something.

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was just a scope on J-Rich

When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble give a whistle and this'll help things turn out for the best.

by Rich Langford on Aug 19, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok good

I wasn’t in the loop I was just pondering based on what that rat said

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not too worried about McFadden and believe they are holding him out only as a precaution.

Since he is a running back, it makes sense not to use him too much in meaningless games. I would like to see him at least in the 3rd pre-season game along with Schillens and the rest of our apparent starters but if he doesn’t play I’m not complaining.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Aug 19, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: j rich

from what i heard it was “minor” surgery. whatever that means.

re: D-mac. I really do believe that he is the real deal. Im excited to see what that dude has got this season. They should keep him locked-up like a veal till opening day, to not aggravate that hammy. Only way cure those is time off, period.

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Aug 19, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Expect Them Both To Explode When The Opportunities Come...

The talent lingers and only a few know what’s in store…With “DHB” clearing out deep n “RunDMc” clearing out underneath someone should be open…Who gets the double…Chaz/Murph…Zack…

Than don’t forget about Bush….

by PantyRaider on Aug 19, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

"The talent lingers"?

Hypothetically, anyone has a lingering talent in something, but it doesn’t count until this talent is actualized.

by Spirals galore on Aug 19, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Previously Misused/Misappropriated/Misaligned/Misrepresented/Miscalculated But Still Exist...

I think Hue has plans for the boys and can figure out how to best utilize their talents…Previously they were a waste…

by PantyRaider on Aug 19, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't understand

The whole DHB is a “developmental project” WTF? He was picked in the first round 7th overall I believe or somewhere above that. If a guy is picked that high how can you label him a project player when an obvious player at the same position (well at least one but it could be argued more than one WR could have been taken ahead of him Crabtree was the obvious) was over looked in his favor then came into camp late AND easily played above DHB. There were also several other players we could have taken for different positions which we have as pressing or more pressing issues at the time that would come in and produce instantly. So the entire DHB is a development project is in my very unimportant, uninformed, unintelligent, headstrong and childish opinion a load of HorseS#$%. Thank you very much.

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

NO EXCUSES ACCEPTED NOON!

Here’s what I did. I had Direct TV hook up a box and TV in my bathroom at home(No I’m not shitting you,no pun intended). I let the box stay connected and on for a week, then put it in my pickup truck where I have a power inverter, added a small color TV and bought a portable fold up dish off the internet for $108.00. Raiders, A’s ,Warriors and Blues are viewed ANYWHERE, anytime (I have NFL,MLB NHL and NBA packages). Once you get used to pointing the dish it’s cake brother. DON’T let Direct tv know you are doing this though,as they will try to make you buy parallel programming. Nothing like coming off a trout creek at 9000 ft slamming a few beers while watching the game(s) then fishing at half time . No more excuses Noon!

by Wyoraider on Aug 19, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is fucking awesome

even though it calls out my apparent lack of effort. +1 to you.

When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble give a whistle and this'll help things turn out for the best.

by Rich Langford on Aug 19, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus+

-if you have internet access, you can always go to www.justin.tv for free online access. I have to use this currently because here in Oregon, they push the Seachix down your throat!
I was just in Cannon Beach last weekend. Hey noon, are you in Oregon or Washington?

Raiders for life!

by blazersrock on Aug 19, 2010 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Wait!

Does that mean I can get any Raiders game on that in the regular season? On the internet?

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes..it does

if you cant get the nfl sunday ticket…then an internet feed is next best..unless a local bar works!
i am looking at getting an adaptor to show the game on my tv from my laptop.

by blazersrock on Aug 19, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found justin tv feeds to be a little shaky and unreliable last year.

Still, it is a kick-ass option, but I still opt for the bar with Sunday ticket as the best option. I am thinking about getting Sunday Ticket this year. I may pass. I did already get the nfl rewind package at NFL.com which allows me to view any game as often as I like the night after it is played.

When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble give a whistle and this'll help things turn out for the best.

by Rich Langford on Aug 19, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

re: sunday ticket

It is freaking expensive…like $20/game….but last year I paid for the mobile access to my buddies account..and then kicked in a bit extra to help with his sunday ticket subscription..I then logged into my computer and watched the game..while he watched on his tv. Anyone have sunday ticket this year? He could help with your bill..and allow a buddy to watch online…thereby spreading Raider love all over the world :)

by blazersrock on Aug 19, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The downside is that many streaming links of the game get taken down which is annoying, by copyright.

Plus you need to have great fast internet for good picture quality… unfortunately I have DSL 1.mbps, and it laggs, until i find a low quality link. Plus… if the link is relevant and many ppl go, it becomes laggy. This is the life for those who can’t afford NFL network/Sunday Ticket, or those who are at work/away on Sundays. just a hassle… but bearable :(

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Aug 19, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck!

In order for me to get Sunday ticket I have to buy the entire sports package for $30/ month plus the applicable government pint of blood in taxes and “fees”. That is the only reason I am balking at getting it I don’t want/need the NHL/NBA/MLB carp to go with it! Whatever happened to freedom of choice?!?!?!?!

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I am in the same spot.

I want the package, but at the same time I resent the Cable companies and I don’t like being strongarmed into things I don’t want.

When you're chewing on life's gristle, don't grumble give a whistle and this'll help things turn out for the best.

by Rich Langford on Aug 19, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Translation please!

Is that good, bad or ugly?

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Mobil Net Is The Best I Can Get Here In Thailand On An AirCard...

I don’t know yet about the ZiggyTV…Finished downloading it and will look later…It’s 3:30am here so back to bed for my 60 yr old ass…Will let you know later…

Insomnia Sucks…

by PantyRaider on Aug 19, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow that is slow Panty Raider... I download at 1500 kbps/ 1 mbps.

You can’t possibly watch games with that speed… unless you just want to hear the game and watch pixels instead of the players. I can download 9 mb in 1.5 minutes.
But since the slim phone is a way smaller screen than a regular screen computer then it might work…

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Aug 19, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thx

for translating whether it was good or bad

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 19, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I Can Get The Radio Broadcast From Raiders.com -n- NFL Gameday Play-by-Play...

I would like to find a way to download the games after…I could go to a net-cafe and use the wireless…Can’t use it during the season because I’m from 14-15 hrs ahead here of Pac Time…10:00am game is 12:00 or 1:00am so everything is closed…!:00 game is 3:00 or 4:00am…

by PantyRaider on Aug 19, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn... I really don't know of places were you can download the game after...

Just upgrade your internet, I doubt Thailand doesn’t have it, if you can’t then I’m guessing you don’t live in the big cities, are you in a small town?
If so, why the hell would Thailand block high internet speed?

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Aug 19, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

JustinTV Is Blocked Here In Thailand By Political Restraints...

But I’m able to get threw to this one and will download to see what I can get…Don’t know yet if it works…

http://www.ziggytv.com/17_15373_NFL-Games-for-Free.htm

by PantyRaider on Aug 19, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ford’s gonna have a huge year. I’m not too worried about his thigh injury either. When you’re working as hard as these guys are, injuries like this are bound to happen.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Aug 20, 2010 1:20 AM PDT reply actions  

So..for this upcoming game...(Thanks to McDonald).

Looks like both DHB AND Schilens will be out..AGAIN…

…..I’m starting to get a bit pissed here myself. Cable says DHB might have ‘overworked’ himself, so they’re keeping him in wraps. And they want to ‘protect’ Schilens.

. . . . . . . .

Looking like another injury-prone year. I myself am prepared to be faced with the fact that the WRs are going to disappoint this year, because they’re getting injured, or close to inuured (Fragile, maybe?) , and are not getting the reps that they need. And D-Mac…is still injured. Again.

Maybe TO wa- there is no way in HELL that I would have tried to get him….that would = CANCER for this team. He’s happy where he’s at. I would rather have an injured Torry Holt ANYWAYS.

Man I hope Bush, Miller and Murphy can carry this team they way we need them to – UNTIL we see our Starters produce WINS – not numbers, WINS. Do I think they can do it, Of course I do. Hell, DHB ain’t put that work in for nothing. Period.

Oh, Best comment of the day goes to priesttj on Jerry Mac’s “Fatigue Slows Heyward-Bey” article on this link:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/08/19/fatigue-slows-heyward-bey/

And I Quote: “You guys can always watch the 49er games if you want to see Crabtree. Since you’re such huge fans of his just tune into the 49ers. Because he doesn’t play for the Oakland Raiders if you don’t want to watch DHB then don’t watch………simple.”

Stop wasting his, and my time.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Aug 20, 2010 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

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