Training Camp: Weekend Round-Up
Sources: Tafur, McDonald and Brazil
Apparently my headline regarding the absence of injuries at Day Two was a mirror image of me in high school: A bit premature. Louis Murphy awoke the morning of Day Three with all the nagging signs of a concussion and has not practiced since.
On Friday he was apparently kneed in the back of the head by Nnam. This is cause for great concern and I hope the coaches go to work right away on eliminating this kind of thoughtless and reckless play. Murphy needs to keep his head out of the way of Nnam's knees.
Okay, he probably didn't do it on purpose and we want Murph's head to be okay. He said he has not had a concussion before and he'll probably be back on the field on Monday. Still, it is something to keep an eye on as concussions have a tendency to come on easier after each one.
Murphy's absence meant the weekend practices were run with only one of the first 3 WR's on the field, DHB. Chaz was on the field for a brief period at the start of Saturday's practice, but didn't too much before retiring to the training room. All signs still point to him sitting out as extreme and understandable precautionary measure.
That left the field wide open to DHB to shine and shine he did. Early on Saturday he seemed to tweak his shoulder, but came right back and made a nice leaping TD grab. He is going after balls more aggressively and using his size and speed to his advantage. After catches, he is bursting up field and even flashing stiff arms on DB's. He is animated and intense at practice. He seems serious about improving at his craft.
Nnam and DHB put in extra time each day of training camp. This is exactly the kind of example you want to see out of two of your highest paid players. It is also a great sign of leadership from Nnam, who has taken DHB under his wing.
Nnam knows stardom doesn't come overnight in this league, but it can come with the right attitude, persistence and freakish athletic ability--all of which DHB seems to have. Here is what Nnam had to say:
I told him the first day before we even had practice that after every single practice that we're going to get some work on the things that he needs to work on. Because even when he's getting the work, I'm getting the work and doing extra stuff. So we'll come aside after practice and I'll ask him what is it today. He'll be like I need work on his, I need work on that. We just go out and do it. It's not like we're working for 30 minutes. It's just some quick stuff that we're getting better at.
Eight practices down and now the pads come on. Not surprisingly, LaMarr Houston was grinning when asked if he was ready.
I'm excited, it's been a long time since everybody's been in some pads. Working technique in pads will be a lot different than just working in jerseys. It should be fine. Without pads, some guys get a little frustrated, and you just know with pads on, it will be a little bit different
He is an extreme talent. The guy is 6-4 with a 37-inch vertical. I have been throwing that pass ever since I have been in the league and he jumped as high as he could get and stretched out and caught it. It's one of those interceptions where you really can't even get mad because he made an outstanding play.
The guy is big, strong and can move, and you can tell playing under Saban he is a smart linebacker. Even if you look him off, he can tell what you're trying to do.
McClain is practicing with the first team nickel. Critics had said he may have to come off the field in these situations. I hope for their sake they didn't put their money where their mouth was.
More news and notes after the jump.
- Jason Campbell has had his ups and downs. I think it is to be expected with a new system and group of guys. Not to mention he is working without Chaz and Murphy right now. He has shown his mobility and Hue Jackson seems pleased with his decision making.
- Jared Veldheer is getting most of his reps with the 2nd team at LT, but he did get a couple with the 1st team. He also continues to get some reps at C. He played some Center in high school. Cable doesn't seem to think his height is a deterrent for the position. He mentioned 6'6 Don Mosebar as an example and brought up Veldheers' relatively short legs and long torso, which give him the low center of gravity necessary for the C position. According to Brodie Brazil of CSN, Cable also had this to say about Jared:
Physically, Jared has proven he can play center but he must prove it mentally. Jared has looked good, but he must show he can play left tackle well on a consistent basis.
- It'll be interesting to see the difference in the running game this year. Players have noted there will be more power blocking in short yardage situations and it was mentioned by Tafur on his Twitter page that we shouldn't be surprised to see some plays with two tackles on the same side of the line.
- When asked about the new offense, McFadden said:
I talked to guys who have played for Hue and they said that's what he's going to do, he's going to run the ball. That's something I'm looking forward to. He puts an emphasis on the running game so I'm looking forward to that when the season gets here.
He runs real fast, but the deal on him was he doesn’t play as fast as he runs, and I think we’re getting him to do that.
- For his part, Ford--who is reported to be getting in and out of cuts faster--seems to be absorbing what the coaches are saying:
I used to gage my speed a little bit. I’m not doing it anymore. They just want me to be fast all the time so that when I get the ball, I just go instead of kind of coasting a little bit
- Ford seems to be the one WR, besides DHB, that is impressing coaches. Figurs, Hubbard, Bodiford and JLH were all mentioned for having drops and JLH and Figurs both drew the coaches ire at different points for not running the proper routes.
- 1st team nickel DB's on Sunday were Jeremy Ware and Joey Thomas. Nnam, Johnson and Routt seemed to be taking turns with the first two DB spots. I haven't seen lil' McFadden's name mentioned in this role, but he was mentioned as making a couple of nice picks. CJ has been mentioned by reporters as looking good in practice.
- Hue Jackson wants his offense run with a crisp tempo. If he doesn't like the tempo he has them get back in the huddle and do it again.
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3 who drew the Coach's Ire
Out of the 3, 2 will probably not make the team !!! We got some blazers out there now, but other Than the ones we know will make the team, (Chaz, Murphy, Heyward-bey, probably Ford) Watkins will probaly make the team, not a lot of playing time but he runs good routes and can block down field. The rest are playing for a spot. I think Miller is going to be on special teams, if he can stay healthy!!!! The rest better pick it up in a hurry!!! Especially Higgens, 3rd year and still running bad routes !!!! Not good, my man !!! I think we’ll be watching the waiver wire after a couple of weeks for this position !!!!! And I say that for one reason. How is Chaz’s foot going to be ?? Other than that I like the way this team is shaping up. Also on the wire watch, an OT & Another DT(1 in paticular, HUH S-O-B……Haynesworth)
I Second The Haynesworth...But...
if we claim him off the wire we inherit his contract also is my understanding which would be bad so how do we go after him and restructure at the same time…
But He Can Play And He Can Dominate At The Point Of Attack And Stop That Run...
If we have him in rotation with Henderson/Kelly/Seymour he will be fresh the whole season and so will the rest…
Houston-Seymour-Kelly-ShaNasty…,Richardson-Henderson-Hainsworth-Scott…..
If wants to
play he can. If he chooses to take plays of or decide he wants to play primadona I say NO. We have good attitudes now with a few dead beats. Lets keep the chemistry as is and go from there.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 2, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
So you would
risk another setback to this team’s stability? We’re not talking about a guy that has had just 1 issue. The poison may taste good for a while…but it’s still poison. No, no, no.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
+1
And what do we give in return for the bloated malcontent’s massive contract? A first in 2011 or 2012 whenever we have another one and what else? One of our well playing safties? Or a WR? Or who knows. I say stick with all of the bodies we have now and see what comes out in the end rather than take yet another gamble on another over priced princess.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 2, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sick of this "bloated malcontent" nonsense
First, the conditioning test he’s being given is absurd, with several players saying they wouldn’t be able to complete it.
Second, the only reason he was angry was because Shanahan came in and switched to a 3-4 which even the dumbest idiot knows is a stupid move. Carter and Orakpo had excellent years, and that’s where Haynesworth has always played. He knows he won’t be a good NT in a 3-4.
We run a 4-3. Haynesworth is one of the best DTs in the league which happens to be a position of weakness. I would have no issue bringing him aboard.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
Yep
thats right. He is a selfless team first kinda guy. It’s everyone else that is wrong, selfish, stupid, and stubborn. When you get $100 fucking million you do what is asked of whether it gets you into the Hall of Fame or not. Winning is the only thing. So what if Shanahan wants him to play in a 3-4 look SOME of the time. They have already said it wont be a hard set 3-4 that he will be playing nose in.
Yep he is such an honorable guy can’t wait for him to not be traded to the Raiders.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 2, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He can play 4-3
He wants to play 4-3
I don’t see the downside.
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
I’m not saying I wouldn’t be OK with Oakland trading for him, all I’m saying is that we should look into a lil’ bit more.
He’s a great player who I believe can truly do damage, but we/Oakland should just do some more research before we go off and trade for a huge player as himself.
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
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Quite obviously there is a down side. He is a whiner that just wants his way. You are turning a blind eye to the character that is Haynesworth. The Titans didn’t want him back no one else will take him either. What does that say about the kind of guy you want in the locker room. He doesn’t even know if can or can’t play a 3-4 and he will obviously sabotage the chance of what can really do no matter what if it isn’t what he wants.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Aug 3, 2010 3:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t Mike Golic just pass that test on ESPN today??
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
Yep.
The test is not absurd. Haynesworth is being a bitch.
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Down with Big Brother!
It was my understanding it was part of the test
"The A's have to be setting some record this year for simultaneously maximizing team quality and player anonymity. I guess that’s sort of their thing though." - Luke in MN
…Still. Mike Golic is like, 50 something and out of shape.
The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing.
Whoa, whoa, whoa...
The man is on the Nutri-System diet. He’s hardly out of shape.
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I bleed Purple N' Gold and Silver N' Black... because of this rare condition, I am no longer allowed to donate to the Red Cross.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Aug 2, 2010 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nutri-System diet, LOL!!! Best comment so far.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Aug 3, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
I bleed Purple N' Gold and Silver N' Black... because of this rare condition, I am no longer allowed to donate to the Red Cross.
by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Aug 3, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
The conditioning test that is so "absurd"
Isn’t any harder than the one we run at our high school. For cryin out loud, we have the guys run 10-110’s with a 30 second break all under 18 seconds.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
a fucking 61 year old man passed that test
haynesworth is a piece of shit
no way is he coming here, hopefully he’’ll stay in the rat’s hole in WA and sabotage that program
by lchristmas on Aug 2, 2010 11:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope Murph is o.k.
because concussions, no matter how minor have a way of lingering for a while. Tafur has already reported on twitter that Murphy is:
having trouble with sunlight, might not be back for a couple of days
Yes, with Murphy and Chaz out the other WR’s are getting in good work, but Murphy must be part of the mix.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
Murph took more than one shot to the head this weekend

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
That's Paul Hubbard #16
I know it looks like Murphy a little.
"The Silver and Black are Back" -Greg Papa 2002 AFC Championship game
Thanks. Who is flying in with the forearm? Is that Lil Walter?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
That would seem to fit with Walt's MO...
Maynard for Jesus.
by Rich Langford on Aug 2, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Nnamdi-n-"DHB" have Allot In Common...
Both were drafted as players with speed who were NO-Names on most draft boards and both had very poor rookie seasons…Proclaimed to be reaches and received very poor press as Mr Davis was blamed for the stupidity in both cases…
Nnamdi was a “FS” converted to “CB” and his slow development finally came to an end when he went outside and retained his former coach as a tutor to help him get better and develop into the “Shut-Down” “CB” n "PB"ers that he has become…This was evidently as a result of our coaches shunning him and not giving him the adequate attention to succeed…
Now I totally love the fact that Nnamdi is reaching out to the younger example of himself in “DHB” and taking the time to give him the necessary attention to excell….Develop….Now that is “Team Spirit” and why Nnamdi has been loved by us fans for so long…
Very cool collaboration. Hadn't thought about WRs talking w/ DBs but it makes perfect sense. Ts: Mario, Khalif, Langston and Windmill
could benefit by talking with Dick. Souperman could talk with Big John. Gallery could advise Bryant and Heard.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 2, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Player Coaches Of Each Other...What A Way To Build Comradely And Team Chemistry...
Now we need to get that going between the “OL” n “DL” more on a one-on-one basis…They practice against each other but don’t spend that one-on-one time working on ban habits and techniques…That could really help both units…Than also the "LB"s get involved too and the "RB"s…“TE”…
WoW!…We should have a second camp just to focus on that between "OTA"s and the regular camp…It could be a players camp without the coaches so it passes under the NFL Radar…Get’s everyone involved on a voluntary basis…
This group as a whole would likely be amenable to the idea of extra teamwork for an edge and if they do it like you said,
on their own without coaches, then no whistleblower couldn’t blow it.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 3, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Beautiful
Those are the exact words I wanted out of Houston.
He’s got a head for the game, and goes to the man who really knows it.
I find it very interesting ..
About Veldheer at the center position. I believe Cable will pick the best man for the line .. Even though he’s only in his first year, Veldheer starting at center over Satele looks more appealing to me ..Satele has the experience, but putting Veldheer beefs up our line a lot. Henderson, Gallery, Veldheer, Campbell, Walker line-up I would not mind at all ..
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 ,, (iBleedSilverNBlack)
by RaiderCreator5150 on Aug 2, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions
But He Spends Most Of His Time At 2nd Unit "LT" Which I Would Like Better...
Eventually he moves into that “LT” starting role but also learns to become as versatile as possible so if we have injury problems men are ready to step in and play…I like that plan…Makes allot of sense to me….
At least the hitting begins today
We’ll see how some of these guys perform with the pads on, and if the walk-throughs had any positive effect for the long term. The team’s overall leadership and ability seem better on paper this year, but putting it together has been challenging. I look for improvement this year, but O-Line and WR positions may keep the offense from performing at peak.
I'm ready for the Autumn Wind to blow strong once again.

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