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It's Getting Hot in Here. So Scope Up All Your Knees

Tuesday marks the start of the last week of training camp for the Raiders and Mother Nature brought the heat. Temperatures were reported to reach roughly 175 degrees in Napa on Tuesday. This should provide at least a little taste of what conditions will likely be like for the season opener in Tennessee. Cable:

...we’ve got to go and open at Tennessee, so we’re going to need to be in this kind of environment a little bit. And it was good for it. I really am excited how we handled it today as a football team

Other than the heat, the big news of the day was the reporting of the Raiders injury status. Of course, what the Raiders say about injuries really doesn't mean much, but it's all we got.

Chaz Schilens had his knee successfully scoped. The Raiders didn't give any timetable for his return. It was, however, similar to what Jay Richardson had done a couple of weeks ago. J-Rich told reporters today that he expected to be back by Week One. This would put his recovery time in the 3-4 week period.

Applying this timetable to the Schilens conversion, I think we can expect Chaz back in week 3...of next year. Maybe it'll be sooner, maybe it'll be never. Who knows? I am just going to stop thinking about him and any time he plays, I'll consider it a cool door prize.

The WR corp was not all doom and gloom on this day as the worlds scariest roller coaster was climbing back up after it's latest free-fall. DHB was back on the field and looking good. Well...I am glad he is through with that bout of fatigue. When asked about his absence Darrius put forth little effort to keep the thinly veiled ruse going. Of course, maybe he was just too tired to do so. DHB:

Just fatigue, same thing coach Cable said. Whatever he said.

Players were actually joking with DHB about it all. At one point, after catching a TD pass JLH said "I'm tired," in DHB's direction. We'll probably never know what was going on.

As Winston Churchill once said about the Raiders reporting of such situations, "It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma."

Star-divide

Whatever, I am just glad he is back and that he performed well. I am not expecting anything, but how gratifying would it be to see him outperform Michael Crabsinhistree on Saturday?

McFadden was back at it as well and should be on display for the first time in Hue's offense on Saturday. Cable wouldn't comment on his workload and it'd be just fine with me if it was light. Let's keep him healthy. Give him about five carries and a couple of passes and call it a day.

Samson Satele is out for Saturday, but his ankle sprain is not serious. It sounds like we will be seeing him in Week One. The bigger question now is, who is going to take his spot on Saturday? Cable wouldn't commit to Morris or Veldheer.

Cable had enough confidence in Veldheer to put him in against Julius Peppers, so why not try him at Center this week? Whenever he comes in, Veldheer should see a lot of snaps at Center this week.

Part of me worries that by splitting Veldheer's duties like this that it will stunt his growth as a Tackle, which is ultimately where I hope he finds his success, but Cable has always been a big proponent of Offensive lineman versatility and if there is any chance he can upgrade the Center position this year, I'll be all for it. We should have a much better idea if this is a possibility after Saturday. 

Other news and notes:

  • Chris Johnson is still sitting out practice. There is no official word, but I'd be surprised if he played Saturday.
  • Also missing Tuesday's practice were, Richard Seymour who was listed as rehabbing a tricep.
  • Langston Walker only had limited participation, because of lower back issues. My back would hurt too, if I was 568 lbs. and it was 229 degrees out.
  • Alex Daniels was moved back to DE. Cable said he hasn't progressed as he hoped. Total bum-out on that one.
  • For those of us who may wish to gamble a bit, here are some odds courtesy of SBR Forum:
  • 80-1 for Super Bowl Champs. 40-1 for AFC champs. 8-1 AFC West Champs.
  • Death Ro' is 10-1 to win NFL Rookie of the year. This makes him the highest defensive candidate and the fourth overall.
  • Apparently Ro' is going to have to win over fans by his play on the field, because according to Mr. Tafur, he hasn't signed any autographs this camp. Hopefully he will sign at other times and/or show some love to the Nation in other ways.
  • The sources: McDonald and Tafur
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The starting Center on Saturday should be
Chris Morris
110 votes
Jared Veldheer
443 votes
Sebastion Janikowski
194 votes

747 votes | Poll has closed

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Better watch the late night posting, noontide

You could be out for a week with “fatigue”. I really hope DHB can get it together this year. This mystery outage is starting to bother me what with Chaz’s fragility, Murphy’s inconsistency, and the rest of the almost but not quite WRs we have on the roster.

I seem to remember Cable talking last year about DHB having trouble with the drops bothering him. They were trying to instill some confidence in the kid so he wouldn’t feed off the negative energy. He really needs to have a decent game or three in a row to get his career launched. But what do I know from psychology, he should just rub some dirt on it.

"Truth would quickly cease to become stranger than fiction, once we got as used to it." - H.L.Mencken

by Gimp1954 on Aug 25, 2010 2:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Jeez, what do you guys want from your rookies?

Can’t you see that DeathRo is busy adjusting his MLB laser eyes for the season? Give that man some time and he’ll take care of the important things like winning games, leading a defense, and then he’ll look to the peasants of the Raider nation and grace your presence with a spear tackle.

Yes, he is much more than you mere mortals.

Seriously, that signing thing will change. I remember his time at Bama and being personable, so it will come. This is a new gig for him and he might be a touch swamped in info. I just hope it equates to what you fans want.

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Aug 25, 2010 5:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Veldheer at center

I think it would actually be beneficial to have Jared Veldheer get a start at center this weekend. Considering he came from a Division II school and is not expected to start at tackle this season, getting him on the field (at center) would actually give him some on field experience he would otherwise not be able to get. Additionally, Bruce Campbell is another developmental tackle prospect the Raiders drafted this year, so even if Veldheer was converted to center, it wouldn’t be a significant loss.

by Il guapo on Aug 25, 2010 6:47 AM PDT reply actions  

2011 draft

If the Raiders intend to play more 3-4 alignments this year, then they may want to consider keeping any eye on another ILB from Alabama for next April’s draft. Dont’a Hightower missed most of last season with a serious knee injury, but he is 6’4" and 256 lbs. Considering the Raiders don’t have a first round pick next year (due to the Richard Seymour trade), Hightower should still be available (if he declares for the draft) when the Raiders pick in the second round. Although he lacks elite speed (and is recovering from a serious knee injury, which may cause him to drop out of the 1st round), his size makes him an ideal candidate to stuff the run and blitz opposing passers (and reteam with McClain to form one of the most formidible interior LB combos in the league).

by Il guapo on Aug 25, 2010 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

If working out in that heat didn't wear him out - it's all about STRESS and his coping w/it

Stress is the mother of many woes – but it too can be harnessed, e.g. Jack Bauer.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 25, 2010 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Jack Bauer was defeated by Corey Feldman...Nuff said

"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven

by angelesoterica on Aug 25, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

8-1 AFC West Champs

I got a small wager in on this about 3 weeks ago. I know this is not a capping site, but I believe there is great value in this bet.

by TexasRaider20 on Aug 25, 2010 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

So Fill Me In Because I don't Gamble...

If you wager $100 what is the return…Just the same $100 or is it higher…

by PantyRaider on Aug 25, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you lay $100, you’ll win $800.

by TexasRaider20 on Aug 25, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

No juice on that wager?

It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.

And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010

by AlabamaJammer on Aug 25, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just read this online...

“San Diego gave Seattle permission to talk to holdout receiver Vincent Jackson. It is the first evidence that San Diego might be willing to trade Jackson.”

If he leaves, it makes my wager even more favorable. It would be a big loss for SD.

by TexasRaider20 on Aug 25, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't read too much into it

Seattle was given permission to talk to Vincent Jackson (re: his demands for a new contract). Apparently he is looking for Brandon Marshal type money ($50 million over 5 years; $30 million guaranteed). Its doubtful San Diego would trade Jackson for a 3rd round draft choice. According to what sources have told Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, the Vikes — and previously, the Seattle Seahawks — have decided to take a pass after finding out what type of deal Jackson wants from his new team.

by Il guapo on Aug 25, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But SD being open to trading him means there might some team out there interested and desperate enough for a WR that might cough up that kind of money.

If it weren’t within the division, I wouldn’t put it past Al to pay him that kind of money to come play.

by TexasRaider20 on Aug 25, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody like that fool Daniel Snyder may want to pay a dumb price for him.

If he’s out of the division that is another great edge Oakland should have this year.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Aug 25, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah really

Is Raiders camp now on Tatooine?

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Aug 25, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a Star Wars reference? Awesome..

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Aug 25, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't do anything special w/ DHB this week just so he plays against the Niners.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Aug 25, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Bummer about Daniels. I was really beginning to like him. Oh well.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Aug 25, 2010 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I am, get-ting so hot, I want my ar-thro-sco-pic!

Hope Darrius’ “fatigue,” requires no scoping! It’s good to see at least some of the players are finding some amusement from the whole thing.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 25, 2010 12:08 PM PDT reply actions  

noontide:

Dig your writing style. Always an enjoyable read.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Aug 25, 2010 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey your back!

:)

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

Down with Big Brother!

by patriotguy2 on Aug 25, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kinda. :)

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Aug 25, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

This Fatigue Thing is starting to bug me !!!

In Jr. college I’ve practiced in 120* dry heat, on TURF, and went thru cramping hell after double sessions the 2nd day of practice. Now that’s fatigue !!! This shit here with DHB, well I just don’t know. Is it physical…… or Mental ??? We’ve dealt with mental issues before, and it might of caused us winning a SB(remember Barrett Robbins). I hate to have this be the cause of any unnessary loss’s during the season. If we need to go get a receiver, and can’t get who we want(i.e. Vincent Jackson) get someone we can get, via trade, ASAP!!! Enough said. And what about bringing in Kevin Mawae? may not be the size we’re looking for, but he damn sure has the experience, and is well schooled in the zone blocking theme !!!

by papabegood on Aug 25, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Jerry Mac is reporting veldheer

Has been getting the first team work and will be starting center vs the 49ers…….sweet!

"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis

by Ozraider on Aug 25, 2010 6:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice!

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

Down with Big Brother!

by patriotguy2 on Aug 25, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

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