Saint's Ten Things To Look For Against SF
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 27, 2010 12:23 PM PDT
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PrintThis is a dream match-up for the third and most important Pre-Season Game. The 49ers strength is our weakness and our strength is will test their weakest link.
1) Will the left side of the 49er line be able to stop Wimbley, Shaughnessy and Seymour?
2) How will Kelly and Houston fare against the weaker side of the 49er O-Line?
3) Will the Raiders be able to stop the run?
4) Will DHB have an effect on this game?
5) Will the young DB's continue to show improvement?
6) Will someone lay Crabtree out?
7) Will McClain step up his production?
8) Will Routt continue to shine?
9) Will Campbell continue to be calm and collected?
10) How will Jared Veldheer handle starting at Center against a team that loves to come right up the middle?
Those are my keys. What are yours?
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It will be like baseball
And Bamm Bamm will respond by laying Campbell out. Indefinitely.
by mr. instigator on Aug 27, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
What will be like baseball?
"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 27, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Crabtree's reaction toward potentialy joining the Raiders deserves a whack.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 27, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Mrs Crabtree has a date with Mr Mitchell over the middle
It be like chiddy chiddy bang bang.
hahaha
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
and Mitchell's kisses weakens the kness and resolve of those he bestows them on
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Mel Kiper, this bud's for you...
and lights out, Mike, from lights-out-Mike, and good night, now.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Who will be the tougher team?
Last year the Niners punched the Raiders in the mouth. The pain seemed to last all season.
You can be assured that Coach Mike Singletary will have them ready to play.
Will coach Cable have the Silver and Black Attack back? I hope so.
The other point still to be seen is can the Raiders stop the run, and not give up the big play?
I hope Ford can play and show some skills and speed also.
It's the big play that has me on tenderhooks. Another joker in our new deck is Ware - he has a queer look on his face
like someone who is about to make a terrible blunder.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Raiders vs 49ers
1. How will Darren McFadden look?
2. Will Darrius Heyward-Bey do anything?
3. What will we see from the Raiders run defense
4. Who will play better between Boller and Gradkowski?
5. My main hope is that everyone stays healthy.
I'm exited to see what DMC can do with all the screens.
It’s something that plays to his game and he needs to produce.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
The forty niners have a strong defense anchored by a solid linebacking corps
Looking to see if the line can continue to protect campbell through the preseason and prevent penetration and tackles for losses on running plays
What happens if Gradkowski struggles and Boller shines?
"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 27, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
At this point i see boller as the more likely backup
a solid preseason along with the fact that he has worked with jackson before, which is the most likely reason he was brought in, and gradkowski’s inability to stay healthy
by Gregthezombie on Aug 27, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Boller's seen the IR even more than Grad ... we better keep Brennan in reserve.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Then you can blame it on lack of playing time.
I don’t know about you guys but i feel bad for Bruce. Before the draft we were all “In Bruce we Trust”, Now it’s all what if Boller is better. I like all of our QBs from Jason to Brennan but Bruce has won us games that seemed impossible to win. Bruce took 2 weeks off and came back. He showed more Heart and leadership in the Bengal game then any other QBs on our roster has showed in their careers. Now all of a sudden everyone doesn’t think he shouldn’t be a starter or even the back-up. Watch Gradkowski become starter mid-season and take us to playoffs.
I still trust in Bruce, but he has some catch-up to do
Btw, is someone going to the event this afternoon? I’m going and will be thrilled to get Grad;s autograph. And Campbell’s. And everyone else’s – if I get to them.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Grad looks awesome and in shape; Campbell is very tall
Taller than I imagined from pictures, and athletically slender. The biggest shock was Routt – he’s melted, looks incredibly fit! Tom Campble was terrific and emphatic, and for the first time I thought he was not blowing smoke.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
We can blame it on something for Gradkowski and not blame it on Campbell playing a few quarters with these guys?
"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 27, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Boller will not shine better than Gradkowski, the guys know him, there is something called chemistry
When Gradkowski practiced almost all his throws were completions like 80%. According to Jerry’s tweets…
The RaiderLaker
Plus Gradkowski has been here a year... Campbell has not, but I prefer Campbell to start.
Gradkowski is the perfect backup right now, Boller is not, the guys don’t feel him as they do Gradkowski.
The RaiderLaker
Wait... the same Boller who sucked with the "mighty" Ravens when he was given the keys? lol.
Gradkowski managed with the “lowly” Raiders. Gradkowski eat Boller.
The RaiderLaker
Plus if Boller stays as #2 then I fear Grads is gone
I say…eff Boller. Grads wants to be here.
"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven
by angelesoterica on Aug 27, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Boller is better than Gradkowski.
It’s the same way Gradkowski isn’t better than Campbell so I posed that question in reply.
"You're all like big fat failure turtles." - Edge
by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 27, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Couple of questions.
1. How many times will the announcers bring up DHB’s production vs Michael Crabtree’s?
2. Will Darren McFadden make a play over 20 yards or at least a play where he breaks at least one tackle?
3. Who will win the battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball?
4. How will Alex Smith look against our pass D?
5. Will Jared Veldheer have a botched snap or give up a bad play in 3 quarters at center?
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
I was was runnang
One question for them all…
How will both teams running backs produce? This will show us how strong or LB core is against the run/ screen pass and also a great test for our running game.
When do they air the preseason games and on what network?
you might not believe this, but I can ruunn like the wind bloows
and so can Mike Bush. But so can Frank Gore. D’oh!
McClain vs. Gore?
Melikes it, methinks.
This game should be televised; not sure where you are, but in Ventura county it’s KTLA.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Top 5 pieces my binoculars will be following
Veld & RG (at once)
Mario on 3rd downs
Ro on 1st
Ro on 2nd
Ro on 3rd
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
where are you guys sitting tomorrow?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 27, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
On the 45 yd line southeast.
Hey, Spirals came back from the Raider camp coming reception downtown and is raving about how impressive Stanford Routt is! (?). I’m going to add him to by ‘watch list’ … Spirals is a good read of people … she got about 20 autographs and had a good time – loves the players w/ one only one bad vibe from one of the FA 3rd string LBs. I expect he’ll be cut.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Lets just say Spirals may have just been wowed by something else and is letting her judgement be impaired.
Stanford may look in great shape with his muscles toned and handsome face, Hey, I would probably sleep with him but no, that won’t change my mind regarding his play. He must produce.
(I kid about sleeping part, I was setting up a mentally gruesome scene with my avatar)
The RaiderLaker
You are right - let's see him play
Nevertheless, I expected to see a relative blob. Instead, I saw flat stomach and waist, of all hings.
Mario Henderson is fat, btw – cupcakes-style. There were only one or two players who looked overweight. I was actually wowed by Groves – but he was extremely gruff when dealing with me and ignored me three times. He was gruff in general, hence I think he may be going to get cut.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Henderson is strong - don't get me wrong
Just some muffin top protrusions, and a bulging belly. I don’t remember seeing Khaliff Barnes, although I think I have his autograph.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
He left that great of an impression? Maybe you though he was the building
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so jealous! I feel like I shoulda been there!
That’s okay. Soon enough. I’ll be with you all in spirit. Tweets from Tyvon and others about their interaction with fans. T says it “got him even more juiced about the season.”
Carry it over to tomorrow and be the twelfth man on the field! GO RAIDERS!
For the record, as much as I’d love for Routt’s looking in shape to be an indicator he’s better, I’ll have to see it on the field, of course, to believe that, but I really want to see it. We need more consistent play from all our corners not named Nnamdi.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I'm sure that's it. He's had a shitty preseason and is being ecliped by Wimbley, Goehel, Scott, Norris, ...
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd love to see a detailed accounting of what you learn from your bino watching,
since watching the broadcast is sucks when one is trying to evaluate individuals. Could you maybe throw a few downs DHB’s way?
Hey you guys!
by Rich Langford on Aug 27, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You can be sure of it. Anyway, one can only watch a man with cupcake arms for x number of 3rd downs
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions
DHB was one of the two players I called by name for signature
The other was Grad. DHB was blank-faced. I had to chase some of them, because just as they were approaching my spot, they started withdrawing – the taping was about to end soon. I did catch Louis Murphy at the very end. Oh, Gallery looks great too.
One think that struck me – we don’t have a lot of tall players. Waters was almost shorter than me; almost shorter were at least 5-6 other players. I think I am taller than Hue jackson (whose enormous authograph was the first on my paper) but shorter than Cable.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell us now about Cable's legs
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Man - the guy is fit!
I’d watched him on TV only, and the gut overwhelms the camera, as we know. But live, he looks so good! The gut is there, but diminished; the throat remains unchanged in fatness. The legs steal the show – long, shapely, muscular. (He wore shorts.)
The Raiderettes were slightly overweight, I thought, except two or three. One of them though was truly impressive – Voz, or something like that. She looks much better live than on picture.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
We're they standing near Tom when your impression of him was made?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions
They were 3 feet away from me, same level
Tom was up on the stage, strutting.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the kind of in depth reporting the off season deserves!
So, what was your overall impression of blank face DHB?
Hey you guys!
by Rich Langford on Aug 27, 2010 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
That he is nervous.
My impression was he’s not ready yet.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
the truly fatigued have not the strength to be nervous - a very good sign, indeed.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, the fatigued ones are the nervous ones
I am concerned – hope he has a breakthrough. Once more he looked good in practice – may he also look good tomorrow.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Could it be that being drafted so high,
was the worst thing that ever happened to him. What does he need to get comfortable?
In the age of diva WR’s DHB needs a bit of TO in him.
Hey you guys!
by Rich Langford on Aug 27, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
At a certain point, a man's just got to say, "Fuck-it"
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah! but In 20 hours the frivolity abruptly stops when the brutal strife for survival holds sway
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
what frivolity??
The Raiderettes are an essential part of the game – they need to be sumjected to some lymphatic drainage massage, that’s all. And some dieting.
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
and I hear he's got quite the knockout punch...
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I'll
be looking at:
A) Campbell’s pocket presence
B) How McFadden is used
C) DHB, and how many times he is thrown to
D) Veldheer at center
E) DL
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
DAMN! The UFC fights will be on...
CRAP! I’m going to have to miss this one… :(
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I'd still go even if it was a pats game.
Reason being is because I’m hanging out with a BUNCH of friends(when it comes to football, I am the only serious football fan among my friends. no one else. But when it comes to UFC, they are all hardcore with it.). It’s also at a restaurant, where we all eat a bunch of food, and hang out with other people who we don’t know who also are watching the fights there. And there are big plasma TV’s. :)
Plus awesome UFC fights are rare, it’s the pre-season(although I also love pre-season), and I’m getting into UFC as well.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
who are the fights this time around, P?
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
James Toney(a boxer) vs. Randy Cotoure, BJ Penn vs. Frankie Edgar, Demian Maia vs. Mario Mirandez,
and a couple others.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I know Toney well. He must've put on weight to be fighting Couture.
Couture should crush him, even in his 40s.
The Penn, Edgar matchup was one I saw the hype for, and promises to be interesting. Don’t know of Maia or Mirandez. Missed some of the recent ones.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Ill be watching the game and downloading UFC 118
best of both worlds
GO RAIDERS AND CAP’N AMAERICA!!!!!!!!!!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
I kill you!
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
This gonna be a really good
test for our o-line
and and our team the biggest one yet in my opinion
cant wait
PSSST.......here are the answers to Saint's quiz Nation!
1 No. As individuals yes ,but when you double team one the others get through. This will be fun to watch.
2 So the boats taking on water. What side of the boat do you bail from to save your ass? The niner boat sinks.
3 I see another bend don’t break performance. Niners rip off a couple good runs, but it doesn’t affect the game.
4 If D.H.B. doesn’t show anything in this one we change his name to R.I.P.
5 YES
6 Mike Mitchell (guided by the spirit of MR. Jack Tatum).
7 See answer # 3
8 Yes
9 NO. this is a "battle of the bay and “statements WILL be made.
10 POORLY
Nation, DON”T tell Saint you had the “crib sheet” for this one, it would embarass me! R.F.F.R.
Safe to say, McClain vs Gore?
and McClain wins?
Love number 6!!!!!!!!! and number 1, and 2. Agree wholeheartedly with 4. This is make or break. He has to take the number one spot; it’s the only way he’ll get it.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
wait a second
routt continue to shine?
since when has routt ever done anything close to shining?
ii seriously question why the ufck hes still on the roster…
He *looks* unrecognizable (2 feet distance)
Maybe he can play thus too
by Spirals galore on Aug 27, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
The party looked fantastic on TV
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Aug 27, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine is the RB situation
Will they try and run Bush up the middle against players like Willis and Mays, or try and use Cartwright or Mcfadden and maybe some reverse plays to DHB or Murphy and try and open up the field a bit more.
I would love to see Mcfadden have a great game. Is he playing?
Veldheer, Veldheer, Veldheer!
Our C position is extremely vulnerable. To bring in a lineman who is 6’8" with a low center of gravity has the potential to revolutionize how we look at this position. I speculated about a month ago that the Raiders would want to determine if this is something they could pull off going into the season. Satele and Morris have both disappointed Al Davis and the coaching staff for pretty obvious reasons, lack of talent to take this team to the next level. Veldheer is a tremendous prospect that I think would place him as one of the biggest steals of the draft. NO ONE PREDICTED THIS FOR HIM.
If he can do play adequately tomorrow and show the staff of his capability, we are looking at a future All Pro. Let’s hope tomorrow is the next coming of Jim Otto.
"I've been accused of using too many words...I suppose that's like accusing Mozart of using too many notes." Bill King
If it does work out, the essential component of our push to the SB is in place. For the Raiders have never made that dance
without an elite Center: Otto, Dalby, Mosebar, Robbins, Veldheer(?)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Preseason Stats As They Stand...Just For Comparisons...
“D”….
“SadFran” is # 4 total “D” n 2 Passing n #12 rushing…#10 Sacks…#8 Scoring…Tie #4 INTs…
“OakTown” is #8 Total “D” n #3 Passing -n #22 Rushing…#1 Sacks…Tie #3 Scoring…Tie #6 INTs…
“O”….
“OakTown” #8 “O” n #19 Passing n # 7 Rushing…#10 Scoring…
“SadFran” #21 “O” n #22 Passing n #14 Rushing…#8 Scoring…
Interesting, I wonder what we'd be minus Forte''s 89 yds
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 27, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This will be the key; Alex Smith will struggle with early and consistent pressure
and the opportunistic d’backs will get picks, keeping Smith from hooking up with Crabtree or Davis for scores. They’ll get theirs, but we’ll keep them out of the end zone passing.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
My keys...
1) Veldheer at C, Campbell at RG. So much is being made of these rookies, and to be honest, while I have liked the cut of their jib, so to speak, they haven’t really impressed either. I want to see how they stack up. Veldheer hasn’t looked great; serviceable, but not great, and Campbell the same. Again, not to say that they can’t/won’t progress, but they are looking like guys that will be productive next year.
2) Murphy at WR. He has looked better than last season, but that isn’t exactly the hardest thing in the world. He still seems to be having problems catching the ball; I’d be more forgiving of route problems if he had fewer drops. As many questions as there is regarding this WR corps, since he seems to be the one that stays the healthiest, and will therefore be on the field the most, he needs to catch what is thrown at him.
3) Less worried about how McFadden will be used (still preseason) than how he runs with the ball: will he run strong after contact, and will he not put the ball on the ground? If he can show that, then I will be happy enough to wait and see what happens during the regular season and how he is used.
4) Is McClain progressing? Will he make the same mistakes as he has before, or does he make new ones? I’m not worried about mistakes, per se, he’s a rookie starting at MLB; it’s what kind of repeat mistakes he makes that is the key.
5) The coverage skills of McFadden; I think it’s a given what we have in Routt, I’d like to see McFadden move past him when he is ready to have more consistent play at the nickel spot. Is he ready, or will it be later this year/next year?
6) What will Houston do? He has been pretty quiet after that first series; will he step up, or not. At this point, he looks to be more of a rotation player than a starter, IMO, but he can change that with a few strong games.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Veldheer was playing Peppers who many consider the best DE in the game re pass rush. In the time Veld's had to get up
to NFL speed, I think he’s rather amazing and will start somewhere on our line for the entire season – I’m expecting Center though because Satele’s hurt and there’s no viable option with Morris. Campbell will get better with each game – his physicality is already impressive by any standard – I’m over Iupati (who I wanted badly for RG)
“In Louis I Trust”
Good notes on McFading
That’s a big one for me too. I love Ro’s intensity, set-up knowledge and leadership. I want to see him react better once the ball is snapped and things are changing rapidly – can he adapt and react appropriately?
Routt has a lot of baggage and the Nation has a long memory; but Stanford has stepped up his game. If you look at his play in isolation, forgetting his checkered past performances, he’s doing well so far.
Houston brought that on himself by being so good the first week; Chicago planned for him and placed him in the role that Seymour had last season – but it backfired because the didn’t prepare for our response – sending an OLB. Tonight I’ll be looking for even more variation b/c SF knows how dangerous our OLBs are and also how much pressure our DEs consistently bring. That’s why, esp. being pre-season, I expect Safety Blitzes tonight, a break-out game for Branch and 2 Sacks from Mitchell – you heard it here.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 28, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
About Peppers...
Veldheer did all right against Peppers, but Peppers is also a player who takes plenty of plays off, as is part of his reputation, and as you could see in that game. You could also see plenty of plays where he was pushing Veldheer straight back, and was able to lean into him (under his pads) and keep from being ridden out of the play. Again, I say that Veldheer has not done badly, but he hasn’t been that impressive either; that isn’t a knock, it just isn’t a ringing endorsement.
Houston had a great first series in that first game, but he also disappeared in that game. He did nothing against the second string, nor in the next game. Either the adjustment was immediate and perfect, to include the next level of players, and the next team, or there is a question about his production. I want to see him produce more than one series of a preseason game before I feel satisfied. Again, not saying that he’s not able to play, but I need to see consistent production. That doesn’t mean that he needs sacks out the wazoo, but I want to see more penetration, more effectiveness against the outside run, more/better pursuit. So far, I have seen him struggle against TE’s, who he was supposed to overpower easily, and not get much push against the pass; he has usually been just two steps up the field when the QB has been flushed out. Again, that isn’t the worst that could happen, but I’m just not seeing starting level production yet.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Dallas adjusted at halftime and Chicago planned for Lamarr. You must not (yet, at least) be troubled at all by Houston
He has as good a shot as anyone to become rookie of the year
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
He will be among the runners. McClain too.
Mark my words.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Veldeer's height at LT is as much a disadvantage as an advantage. I'm sure they're working on him to habitually
get his base lower, he’s coming in raw from DII coaching (no ridicule intended) and has a huge amount of development gap which only makes my more optimistic about him.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 28, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
WTF? Lamarr a rotational player?
When you are doubled that doesn’t mean you are a rotational player. When you are 305 pounds, that doesn’t mean you are not there to stop the run. Do you want Wimbley there? lol. Let’s let the opposing teams run game run rampant. You lost me with your trenches analyzation. I agree with all the rest but not #1 and #6.
If so then I must be a dumba.ss and Satele is better than Veldheer at blocking NT’s, and Campbell must be slower and weaker than Cooper. And Houston is a rotational player and we don’t need him to help stop the run with his big body and quicknes, Lets just put Wimbley or Richardson there…………………………….
The RaiderLaker
Why not?
I don’t see constant double teams, so what else is happening? Again, I’m not saying that he can’t/won’t improve, but he isn’t exactly setting it on fire right now. One great series doesn’t mean jack, I don’t start creaming myself because a player has one good game. I’m not naming Wimbley as the sack leader for the season based on one game either, but there are some folks that are so starved for good news after the last few years that they project waaaay too much. Run a a rotation if nobody stands out, until somebody does. Not exactly rocket science…
I haven’s said, anywhere, that Satele is the answer at C, I have said that both he and Carlisle are liabilities. What I’m not saying is that Veldheer is ready to take the spot yet. Might he be? Let’s see it happen, on the field, against first team defenses, before saying what ‘should happen’, shall we?
If he isn’t made to show that he can do the job before getting it handed to him, then you have the whole DHB debacle from last year, only at C instead.
Yay…
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