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Rome Wasn't Built In A Day

Saturday: I had been excited for it, waiting for it, anticipating it for months. A pre-season game that is supposed to resemble real football. And my sweet lord, how I have been feinding for real football.

Saturday also happened to be one of my closest friends birthday and we are close friends despite his incredibly ugly life choice of being every bit the Seahawk fan that I am a Raider fan.

Still, as fall begins to leave its scent in the air, we had a good football centered day planned. We played football in the early afternoon and then BBQ'd at his house with another Seachicken friend while watching a second rate game pitting the Seachickens against that team that Favre plays on.

This is where my internal debate started. Do I just watch this silly action--or, at 6, do I go to his computer and watch the Raiders? I don't get to see my friend as much as I used to and it being his birthday and all I started thinking I'd just catch the replay Sunday night and watch the inferior game with my two amigos. It is only the pre-season after all.

6 O'clock started ticking closer and I began to get the shakes. Everything was turning silver and black. My friends were talking and all I heard was Raiders, Raiders, Raiders.

Star-divide

"You alright?" My friends asked.

"I gotta go watch real football," I said while growing pale and sweating.

"Why put yourself through that? You won't get real football until your dead owner dies."

"Yeah, well Pete Caroll looks healthy. So you guys are fucked." I said while heading towards the computer room.

"Al Davis!" They proudly shout.

"Remember, you are one fragile QB away from the Chuckin' Charlie Honkey-shifter era." The trade for Charlie Whitehurst has been invaluable to me this off-season.

So, I left them with that bitch slap o' truth and got the game up and going. After the first drive I had to wipe my eyes. It was too good to be true. Every play went perfectly and with Rich Gannon precision. Like the considerate friend I am, I ran out to gloat, then returned for more commitment to excellence.

Or so I thought. Ugh...things were changing. The 49ers were getting the better of the Raiders in the trenches, the Raiders were giving up big runs and opposing defenders were flying through un-blocked. They were punching the Raiders in the mouth and the Raiders weren't responding. I was getting anxious.

"It's all happening again. This looks too much like last year," I was whispering to myself in case my friends could hear. This is where the Raiders would start to give up and get blown out.  

The 9ers ran a punt back right up the middle. I was sinking and I tried to right my internal ship. "No problem. It's pre-season. Punt coverage shouldn't be a problem in the regular season. The O gets the ball back and can get something going." 

Then it happened. Mario Henderson forgot he was playing football and his man launched himself into Jason Campbell...and Campbell didn't get up. The trainers came onto the field. They were holding the sides of his head. My jaw was just hanging open. I was in shock. I didn't move until Campbell did.

I began to feel a little better, but my mood was soured. "Mario Henderson is worthless. Pre-season football is stupid. QB's should wear red jersey's in pre-season. That was a dirty hit. Marion Henderson is worthless! This is dumb." Then finally I came to the rationalization that I should stop neglecting my friends.

And I walked back out and collapsed into a pile on the couch. "What's wrong buddy?" I doubted my friends' sincerity. 

"Mario Henderson sucks the devils nipples and pre-season football is stupid."

"We told you not to watch the Raiders game."

"Jason Campbell just got carted off the field."

"Ouch! Good thing you have JaMarcus to back him up. That kid has potential." They apparently thought this was funny, but my friends don't get that it's not funny at all. It's only funny when it happens to the Seahawks.

So, I watched the Favre bowl, which featured a nice TD grab by Javon Walker. That was it--I had had enough. "Football is stupid!" We all decided, turned off the TV and left.

Time heals all wounds they correctly say and football is now forgiven. Upon second viewing of the game, I find myself with a rosier perspective on the Raiders showing. It helps that Campbell's injury is not serious as it initially looked. Although it came out that he is having his throwing wrist examined.

If it's possible, Saturday's game brought me down to earth while at the same time reaffirming my hope. This is not the same team it was last year, but it is only a few months removed from that team. And it is a team that has changed mostly by the insertion of young players. The ills will not be erased overnight.

So, the things that illed this team from last year, other than one blubbery non-prepared exception, reared their head in this game. We saw, as KA1ZR pointed out, spotty line play resulting in hurt QB's, multiple drops of catchable balls, lack of discipline by LB's resulting in big run plays, and less than stellar tackling.

But as I said, I saw some positives. So...

What Has Pulled Me From Football Abyss:

  • What I liked and what changed my feeling about this game more than anything was the Raiders response. As I said, they were getting punched in the mouth by the 9ers and it looked like the all too familiar seeds of a blow out. Well, call me Adrian, 'cause this team showed they got a little Rocky in 'em.
  • The shot that caught Drago and cut his eye came when Louis Murphy caught a bubble screen and then pulled half of the 9ers D for a couple of extra yards. He was not alone; the team had his back. Henderson got flagged on this play for getting a little extracurricular, but I thought that was a bogus call and the 9ers needed to get popped back. 
  • That's right, I said bubble screen and it worked. I like what I have seen of Hue's offense. It is a great mix of long and short throws and the screens look effective and they are a great way to slow down a pass rush.
  • They quickly followed that play with the long strike to Murphy for the TD. What a sight that play was. The O-line picked up the blitz, Hue had the perfect play call in, DHB demanded the faster corner to follow him leaving the safety to get torched by Murph. This left Grad to make one of the easier throws a QB will have. The post to the inside guy and Grad drilled it.  
  • The Raiders kept fighting and when the starters left, they left with the lead.
  • Except for some key drops, the passing game looked fantastic.
  • The guy playing in Stanford Routt's jersey: He is awesome! Read Sons excellent in-person analysis on Routt and others.
  • DHB was in the house. He is still letting the ball get into his body, but he was running crisp routes, getting open and moving the chains.
  • The reduction of pre-snap penalties. Still, not perfect, but much better.
  • Bruce Gradkowski is back! It is a luxury to have this guy as a back-up. The Raiders last offensive play sums up everything I love about the man. He was hurried, ran up in the pocket to create time then started to get pulled down--so he awkwardly, while flat-footed, heaved a 40-yard pass that hit Watkins in stride for what would've been a game winner.  

What Still Bothers Me

  • Mario Henderson's inconsistency is looking awfully consistent.
  • Kick Return Blocking: It doesn't look any better.
  • The drops. Brandon Meyers drop on Campbell's 3rd down pass is a butterfly. Go back in time, squash that butterfly and witness an entirely different future unfold.
  • The battle for the last WR roster spot: No one is grabbing the captain's hat.
  • Running to the right side of the line: I hope they look to run to the left side more than the right once the season starts. KA1 documented these woes well.
  • Jason Campbell's wrist.
  • Michael Bush's thumb: While it is said he will likely be available for Week One, I worry about the impact his thumb will have on his catching and blocking.

Interesting Things in the Neutral Spectrum:

  • Desmond Bryant got pushed around too much on running plays. I thought the D looked way better with Henderson in. In the end though, it's good training for Bryant, Seymour will be back and Bryant can be that energy, rotation lineman.
  • Jared Veldheer: While he is way, way, way, ahead of where I expected him to be, his lack of awareness scares me. He proved his physical tools, now he just needs to continue his already rapid acclimation to his new position.
  • Satele will be back practicing this week and Cable was non-committal about the starting Center spot. Cable:

    I want to look at it. There were some things from last night’s game that I was not pleased with but there were also a lot of good things at the center position. I think the fact that Samson is ready to go is the most important thing right now.

  • Marcell Reece: He is a wonderful weapon in the FB position, but his blocking--while improved--is still not great. He looks like he is going to be the starter, but with Bush's broken thumb limiting his blocking skills and the obvious need for a RB to pick up a block now and then, I am a little nervous.
  • Darren McFadden: Overall, I was pleased with his performance. It is easy to knock him for his yards per carry, but the guy didn't have a chance. He had one run where he once again let gravity make the tackle, but he also had a nice run on a pitch when he actually got a chance to get going. Not surprisingly, he looked great catching the ball.
  • While the 9ers got 5 yards per carry and racked up 165 yards this is way better than the 5.9 YPC and 275 yards they got in Week 2 of the pre-season last year.
  • Since we are comparing pre-seasons, last year's game 3 was the debacle against the Saints. Compare the two and you'll see how much this team has grown in a year.
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Starting Center?
Veldheer.
344 votes
Satele.
198 votes
Satele, because I want Veldheer instead of Mario.
492 votes

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over agressiveness is the keyword here.

I saw players taking themselves out of plays on defence. I saw an OL just get bullied..but what i saw was something better than last year. Trust me..i cant never forget about last years preseason game 3 against the Saints (im on the Gulf Coast been here
10yrs..dont get fooled by what u see on tv. Ive never seen this many Saint fans as i do now. All of them are fucking bandwagoners) Anyway..we will get better.

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 5:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Stanford Routt
The guy playing in Stanford Routt’s jersey: He is awesome!

Has proven me wrong these past two weeks. I was hard on him the first week, now he’s looking great. Our offense looked really sharp on that opening drive. I was livid when Henderson didn’t even look like he was trying on that block .. All in all, I was disappointed we lost, but its preseason and the team is showing promise. Let’s hope Campbell and Bush’s injuries are minor setbacks and won’t affect them coming into the regular season.

Also, I’m glad DHB is looking a little better .. Seen a few interviews with him recently, a lot of people give him shit about his play and the Raiders .. Not once have I seen him back down, or do anything but defend our Nation .. Hope he makes a lot of people eat crow this year.

Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)

by RaiderCreator5150 on Aug 30, 2010 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice analysis, noontide. Nothing about Pears bothers you? Seriously?

You hit on key things that worry me as well, but most here know they are things about which I’ve bitched for quite some time.

Henderson at LT. check. McFadden runs up the middle. check. Running to the right side, and therin the inability of the right side to collapse the line of scrimmage and get to the second level. check.

I’m as surprised about Routt as any, but expected with an improved pass rush he’d do better. He still shows tendencies to put his body in bad position, but has made plays despite that thus far. He remains a work in progress, but the third and fourth years for dbs in this system often proves to be the magic year. We do know he has the speed to keep up with the leagues fastest guys, but will he internalize the proper technique?

I look forward to Bush playing with a protector (not a cast) on his hand, and playing well. He’s a stud, and many questioned if he’d return from the injury that had him fall to where we drafted him, and let’s just say those questions have been left in the dust.

I mentioned in replies to many posts that the vanilla play calling is nothing like what we can expect from our Raiders in season, and stand by that. I also believe I’ll wear my McFadden jersey with pride before season’s end, as he will be used in situations that exploit his strengths, and find matchups that exploit other teams inabilities to find an answer for the problems he’ll create. Patience, nation! Hue will unleash the bully in week 1!

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 8:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Indeed Brhynno, Pears sucks big wang,

but I’ll bitch about him if he ever ends up starting. Let us hope that, that day never comes.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Aug 30, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so Brhynno...

Deep inside i know the playcalling was very vanilla..i guess im over anxious and spoiled at the sametime. In the past 3 PS games the offence looked competent, and aware!. Recievers are catching balls and its starting to look like they care..but that damn Oline needs tovtighten up. Cant go vanilla with pass protection and runblocking…or someone is going to get hurt..oh wait!!!! Im happy all in all with what ive seen so far. Get well Jason and Micheal. Go Mcfadden and Go Raiders!!!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Love waking up to Raider News

maybe we are being a little hard on our boys. It is pre-season after all. They have some issues they need to work on. So does every other team. Nobody’s expectations are high on us anyways. No matter how you slice it this is an improved team in almost all aspects. We need not be worried. The Cowgirls on the other hand…..brutal.

by Mr. Elek on Aug 30, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

nobody's but ours, that is!

We have our all or nothing tendencies, but such is the case with such die hard, and loyal fans. We’ve taken the bad so graciously over the last decade, we expect some of the dominance of past to show up in form of the good, which we expect to take with the bad.

I personally love when the mainstream media and most call for us to continue sucking, because that is really not much of anything but motivation for the team. And as for the Cowgirls; not exactly living up to all the hyperbole surrounding who will occupy their stadium for the big game now, are they?

It puts things nicely into perspective: things could certainly be indicative of much, much worse for our Oakland Raiders. At least it appears now that they are problems that we appear to have some answers to, and that, makes this team light years ahead of the ones in the past seven years that couldn’t eclipse the five game mark in the W column.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

one big problem still

worries me…
and it was summed up in a couple plays.
1st play: holding, eric pears
2nd play: false start, eric pears

dont know exactly what was going on, but it seems to me like we have a LOOOONG way to go in that department. were getting killed on penalties. either work on that more, or get rid of the flag magnets

by S.D. Raider on Aug 30, 2010 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Teams entering the season with huge question marks!!!

NY Jets-Uh oh..Sanchez is looking every bit the 2nd year rookie should look.

Min Vikes-Uhm..Bretts throwing to who???

Denver Donks-I swear…if someone doesnt fix Tebows slow ass telegraphed throwing motion, if Orton ever gets injured Tebow will be a walking INT fabricater.

St Louis Rams-you know its bad when your star reciever is down and the expert still wont adjust there prediction of 2-3 games won to something lower!

Washington-Bet they want Campbell back..well guess what???…we want our future Raider back. FREE MARSHAWN LYNCH!!!!

N.O. Saints-they say theres enough voodoo in Nawlins.to counter the curse of the madden!? Hmmmm…..

San diego-Cough cough Merriman has been straight garbage since getting off the juice cough cough Well..they still have Antonio Gates

Tenn Titans-Beep..beep..beep..beep..beep..oopss my bad.i saw Chris Johnson and my Stud finder went off. Strange huh???

San Fran-keep this up and Singletary wont have to show his ass anymore!!!

Chin up fellow Raider Brothers!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

ha ha! All very astute observations! Does Tebow not look like Byron Leftwich with that release? Maybe worse????

I’m looking for Cable, and Hue (who has a certain familiarity with Tennessee) to outcoach Fisher come opening day in Tennessee. So long as we are able to execute the game plan, I’m looking for a W! Also expecting to see KC hand SD their asses opening day, and the path to winning the division will officially be underway!

Tough break for the Rams and Avery; I actually think they could be worse off. Bradford will make up for some of the loss, but make no mistake, this is the first step in a long rebuilding process for STL.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

well Tebow has a cannon. Hes very accurate..or more than i thought..

But i thought he hired a qb coach to fix his form??? Nfl has to many smart LB’s and safeties for that throw to fly. Still kinda wish we had him though. I know hes a churchy guy but weve been having great success with un-Raiderlike qb’s. Gannon..Grads..Todd Marinovich!!! Hahaha ok..ok..ok..i kid. Sorry fellas i know people who were banned for even mentioning his name!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Tebow's gamesmanship, his cannon, and his athleticism.

Hell, the guy could line up at wideout and be at least as good as Curry was for us, and he’d be a matchup problem for slow lbs, and smallish dbs.

What I question is how high he went in the draft, and his ability to EVER fix his mechanics problems. Sometimes you just can’t fix things like that. He was good enough to show he’d improved on his pro day, but you knew it was just a matter of time before he started raring back like that again, and lo, and behold…

I don’t even mind the holy roller status; just don’t see him panning out into a true NFL guy. He’ll disappear into oblivion, similarly to Rick Mirer. One exciting year of some great playmaking, only for his teams and coaches to realize he’ll never be a true franchise qb.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver killed 2 birds with one stone..

After they got rid of their next John Elway (Cutler) and surely knowone thinks Kyle Orton is the furture..so they went out and got a guy with great moral standards and a avg to above avg qb which in turn created high jersey sells and greater interest from the community and STH. Its a win/win situation for Denver.

And yes!!! He was a 3rd rounder at best. But lining up at WR???… Lol Hybrid Qb indeed.

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curry was a qb in college, too. It's why I made the comparison

not saying they would actually do it with him. Just think he’d have a better chance flowering into a great player catching balls, than being the leader and passer.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My biggest concern is the middle of both lines.

There were huge holes open for choice plays by Gore and Dixon on one side, and a whacked out Patrick Willis on the other.

The response to the Willis pressure up the middle was probably what led to the devastating LaBoy sack of Jason Campbell.

Otherwise, I think the components of the Raider team are working good – not great, but good.

I think we’ll shock some folks in Tennessee.

Green and Gold Lantern Corps

by oaklandSMASH on Aug 30, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

It absolutely was, but a combo of things

Both the inability for anyone to pick up Willis unchecked, and Henderson losing his matchup against LaBoy stunting and Gallery getting pushed back and into the pocket, then allowing his man straight into the qb. Bad on all accounts. He didn’t even have a chance to check down, really.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

49er's Aggressiveness

I think that part of the issue is that the 49ers are blitzing more than other teams in the preseason.

The offensive line seems to be working on getting better. I’ve witnessed offensive lines get better once the right players begin to gel. Certain issues can’t be overcome without new players, such as a weak center like Satele. As far as Mario Henderson is concerned, his pass defense is pretty good in most cases. He only has difficulty with really fast opponents but shines most other times. I would rather shore up the center and right side before worrying about mario.

by Sbay on Aug 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

im looking for the shock value also in Tenn..

Pundits are only worried about how much more over 100yrds will CJ run for and if it will be under 10 carries. Winning in Tenn and maybe 3if the next 4 will definitely put us in the running for AFC champs. I have to continuously use my own logic against myself. Just cuz we look avg and offense looks Blue Bellish doesnt mean it wont get better as the season gets started. Cuz lawd knows we all have seen the Raiders at it lowest.

Bed and Breakfast anyone!!!!!!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Seymour and Nnamdi’s return will make huge differences defensively as will film study and development of players like Shaughnessy, Bryant, Houston, Scott, McClain, Wimbley, Mitchell, and Branch. The first three getting to learn under Seymour.

Nnamdi and Seymour have a major strength that is the major weakness of the defense (Branch has this as well to a lesser extent), play recognition. The team is going to the wrong gaps and starting out of position at the snap because they are slow to recognize the plays.

Even when this occurs, the team is so fast on defense that it usually corrects itself to prevent big plays. This happens on usually all but 2 or 3 plays per game, aka the big plays. The faster the offense, the harder to adjust.

Nnamdi and Seymour however always know where the play is heading and what it is due to great veteran savvy. The team can always look to them, see how they’re reacting, and go off of that. With those two out, it’s up to McClain to be the guy to watch. Hard to do when he is still learning the game.

McClain will eventually be the guy to watch and the guy who leads, but you can’t expect that right now in his rookie season. Few guys ever are the guy when it comes to MLB in their rookie years. You know unless your name is Beason, Ray Lewis, or Patrick Willis.

Offensively, what can I say other than the first few weeks will be rough going until Carlisle’s continued ineptitude in run blocking gets him pulled and either Walker or Campbell fills in. And Satele will probably start the year, but we may see Veldheer in his place by the final few weeks.

All in all though, Campbell gets better with each game and the receivers are improved this year by quite a bit. We will have a passing game this year. it won’t be great, but we will have one that defenses finally have to watch for.

Teams can’t blitz or suspect O-lines because of all those dangerous screens to Murphy, Ford, DHB, McFadden, Bush and the flat throw to Reece in the backfield is a matchup nightmare. And don’t forget that blitzing would mean probably leaving Zach Miller single covered.

Teams don’t blitz though and it’ll only be a matter of time until Murphy, Heyward-bey, or Miller get open. And Campbell can definitely make those throws. Even if the receiver drop some, the ones they catch will be big.

Grand scheme of things: 7-9 season. Running game will struggle and we’ll give up big plays here and there that will make a big difference. One more draft, even without a first rounder, might be all we need to get those final pieces in place.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Aug 30, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

or suspect O-lines

typo: our suspect O-Line

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Aug 30, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well said, KA1Z3R. Those uses of check downs and successful screens will neutralize the pass rush

this was among the most frustrating aspects of our game last year. Jamarcus could never figure out how to use plays like that effectively to neutralize the 8 men in the box, and heavy pressure rushes, if indeed those calls were made when Cable was calling them.

Still would love to see a key FA bolster the line. You’re dead on about Carlisle. Add in Pears. Even Walker is on the downside of his producing years, but he’s worth keeping for sure. I think a year under center for Veldheer could have him learning some key technique, and it could actually help his development to ultimately line up at tackle. He showed great ability to reach the second level on run plays, something Henderson can’t do.

I’m giving us 8-8, anticipating we’ll make at least one key pickup before season starts to help out our most glaring needs.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we’ll see the O-Line change unless Carlisle gets pulled sooner. if this continues it’ll be week 4 he’s pulled. Cable and Hue are majorly stressing balanced offense. If the run game ain’t there, Carlisle won’t be much longer either. They know both Walker and Campbell are great run blockers.

Veldheer i think might be being groomed into our franchise center. But I think that’s just in case Satele doesn’t work out. I think you’ll see an OT taken in the second round next year. He’s a guy who will push Henderson to the RT spot, or maybe that draftee might start at RT. Depends on how Henderson does.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Aug 30, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're probably right. Not really any tackles available that are clearly upgrades

McNeill might be the one guy, but not sure what to think about his availability status for reals.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus we’d have to shell big money for him, not really ideal to me

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Aug 30, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say shell out the dough. It's an uncapped year

and we need another tackle. Just say we go ahead with Mario, what happens if his achilles tendon goes? or an ankle, or a torn pectoral? What happens if he ends up on IR?

Are you comfortable with that scenario enough to cross that bridge when we get there?

I love that Campbell and Veldheer are there when we need them, but hope to God that we don’t this year at the LT position.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The injury IF is bigger than any IF. What if Peyton tears his ACL? What if Peyton breaks his throwing arm? The Colts don’t go out and sign or trade for another elite QB just incase this happens. You just gotta trust it doesn’t. Plus, Mario doesn’t have any injury issues. I’m still calling him our LT.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get the defense of Mario from you of all people, Jake

the guy’s not a starting left tackle. Period.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 31, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

agree

one more tackle is needed as long as Veld and Campbell break into the starting line. The sooner the better. I trust that as soon as Veld and Campbell look decent in practice, he won’t hesitate to throw them into the game. They seem much more dedicated to success and are willing to make changes quckly.

by Sbay on Aug 30, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the Oline looking alittle suspect u would rather Grads start...

Now bear with me on this. Anyone whos been paying attention from las5 year can see Grad has an unbelievable feel for the pocket. Not saying Campbell doesnt but ive seen him to often than not (even as a Skin) rather drop back to buy time instead negotiating the pocket. Im happy to have both no doubt but even in a preseason game its hard to not yern fot Grad behind center opening night.

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

He is an amazingly pocket present qb.

and he has the clock to rid himself of the ball on time. His injury proneness comes from his inimitable will to try and make something happen in the grasp. He’s a little to small to do that, and when trying to cock your arm to get the ball out with a defensive end holding you while another lb or dback comes into assist puts a guy in a very compromising position.

Nice observation, tho. You are accurate on that note. But I say, he’s too special a guy to put him in when you feel your protection is lacking. Do not put any of our qbs in that position, and bolster the line where necessary already.

Luckily Jason seems to be okay and will quickly recover to play soon, and perhaps it’s good it happened when it did. If ever there was a time to get things corrected, it’s now. Mario’s gonna have to do a LOOOOOTT, to earn my forgiveness for that. We need a Wisniewski or Linc Kl. Someone to step up an lead this unit.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

It’s gotten a little old having the same discussion, week after week, knowing what we have seen, has it not? While I don’t entirely disagree with everyone that bolstering other parts of the line would help, I believe just getting a real, starting caliber LT frees up Mario to play the right side, and fixes everything.

I guess it’s easier said than done.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 31, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll have to say

I need a little bit more from Mcclain, but other than the freshman mind slips, I’m not in a panic.
With that said, even though our defense is young- I see us taking on a weak (but somehow cocky) NFC West and sweeping that division right off its feet.
Somehow, Seahawk fans think that we are the same sad team that was under previous dictatorships and think they can come into The Black Hole for an easy ‘W’, I say- pshhhhhh, the sea who?
9er fans probably won’t shut up until October when we play again for the regular season, but I’m confident with a little more study and security on both sides of the ball (plus the fact that our boys will have some real games under their belts) that we can pull out with a ‘W’ at the ‘stick. That’s not saying it’s going to be easy, but I have no doubts in my mind that this team is capable of doing that.
The Rams game should be a ‘W’ and if there is a loss, that gives me a reason to panic.
The most interesting game to me would have to be the Cardinals game, due to the fact that they haven’t settled their QB issue, and they are very much a question at that position, but every where else- they are pretty solid.
If we sweep the NFC west and proceed to sweep the Broncos, and Chiefs- while splitting at least ONE GAME (please God, i’m asking for just one game) with the Chargers… we can go minumum 9-7
I like Veldheer as the Center, but like you said noontide- Mario pisses the crap outta me.
We need D-Mac to step up this year, it’s now or never for this guy. If we get the same results as last year, sadly, I would have to call him a bust.
DHB looked good, and I’m confident that he’ll only improve.

Another interesting topic, Jets released Cole, and the Bengals released Bryant, plus there are circulating rumors that the Seahawks were going to release TJ Houshmandzadeh. If so, should we pick up a veteran reciever?

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by DarksideJU08 on Aug 30, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

No to Cole!!!!

An emphatic NO to bryant!!!!!

And a maybe for TJ Hous

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Aug 30, 2010 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Kobe Won !!!

I say to this:
DITTO
DITTO
AND DITTO

TJ would be a definite plus. I still think they should be paying attn. to the Dallas Cowgurls cuts at the wideout position. With the lack of OT bodies period in the league, and if they don’t just say fuck it, and start Veldheer at OT, a trade is going to have to be made!!! With our suprising depth at a number of positions, something could be done here with the San Diego Chokers for McNeil. Yeah I know AJ Smith is a dutcshbag, and probably will ask for the moon, but even he knows they need help. They’re hurting on the D side of things, and before we make our final cuts, someone should be making a call !!!

by papabegood on Aug 30, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

the fans at the beginning of the clip scared my daughter away. Raider Nation is so awesome.

by Mr. Elek on Aug 30, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

If there is such a thing as a beneficial loss

it would be in the preseason. The trenches were torn apart last night, so the work must go on. Last year in wk 3 of the preseason, it was so depressing when reality dropped back in when you could see it would be much of the same. I don’t really see that so much this year (as many of you have stated), but there’s still a learning curve with this team. I may not be as optimistic as the coaches and players, but it does at least seem like the team is turning a corner.

Bow down, when you're Westwood bound.

by S Jay Bruin on Aug 30, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al Davis pissing me off, again. He doesn't like Cable being forthcoming with injuries to the media, and *Fans.*.

link, I know he recieved word from up top, just read the article and his tendencies to give injury updates to media, before this “crackdown”.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Aug 30, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for that, J. I freaking love this quote from Tyvon, and know it's 100% real shit:
"We still have to work out the rough patches. We changed a lot of stuff up coming into this year as opposed to last year," Branch said. "And then Richard Seymour not playing I think is the biggest difference. He gets those guys fired up up front. Once we get him back it’s a tremendous change in the defense, tremendous."

on the same token, Jerry Mac has been great lately too. His lack of injecting his take in all his work was pretty painful during the bad years; maybe it was because the truth just hurt? I guess what I’m saying is that I’m realizing he seems to be pretty in tune with what’s going on with the organization, and probably took out on the messenger what I was projecting on the sad state of the franchise.

Things are looking up! I do not discount Seymour’s impressions on how good this team can be at all; he’s the one guy on the team qualified to actually identify a playoff team when he sees one. It’s all about execution and proper depth, now. Injuries will happen. Will we be prepared at the correct positions to handle them? That, seems to me the biggest question for this team right now.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injuries happen to all teams, more or less on a proportionate level (at least over time - though some seem cursed)

And while you seem to be on fire tonight, I do take exception that our biggest question is how we will deal with the random scourge of injuries. Our biggest problem now is stopping the run – just like it was last year. 6.6 yds/ carry against us Saturday and miserable tackling, out of position LBs, ridiculous pitsy-patsy-bullshit at the line of scrimmage with boy who cried wolf fake blizting on 90% of the downs, plus LBs that can’t extricate themselves from mediocre linement – yes, SFs 0-line isn’t all that great and is considered their greatest weakness by their fan base. Marshall, Haluchak – you!!! I hold accountable for this.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 30, 2010 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, but my problem exists with having insufficiently great players at starting positions

hence, the tremendous dropoff at certain positions if someone gets hurt. The already glaring weaknesses become easiliy exploitable ones. We stood pat at LT, and what happens when Mario goes down. Seymour? McClain? The guy opposite Nnamdi? Mike Bush? Zach Miller? Louis Murphy?

While I agree with you about our weaknesses, the depth question compounds them. I’m with some of the folks that see that the weaker division rivals we’ll face will offer the right opportunities to start developmental guys, but what happens when the guys who win the starting jobs go down? Too many positions like this for comfort, imo.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 31, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do expect Seymour's presence to mostly fix the rushing D woes

and that when Seymour is in, we’ll win the line of scrimmage battle more often than not. But when he can’t go in, the fact that we’ll get what we saw the last two weeks is alarming.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 31, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it was Seymour's absence. And he does look good this season, but he also looked good through

week 6 last season and then flat-lined; you may recall I was somewhat critical of Dick – never immoderately mind you. He does seem to have a healthy attitude and affect on his teammates.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Aug 31, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha! Love the way you write, noontide.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Aug 30, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

+1000. Amazing voice and wit. And above all, a keen eye for the state of our team

You are greatly appreciated here, sir.

"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew

by brhynno on Aug 30, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Al is Undead

your friend should already know that.

Routt is playing a bit better so far but when games matter, I’d rather not risk giving up penalties, field position and points (which is all Routt contributes along with his me first, non-teammate attitude). I’ll put faith in Chris Johnson to win the position if he can come back from hamstring injury. He’s not great but he’s much safer than Routt.

by Al's Wingman on Aug 30, 2010 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know abou that

CJ got beat pretty bad a couple times against the Cowboys. If he can show that he’s better than Routt is right now, then he can have it, but he has yet to do that.

by duballers23 on Aug 30, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

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