Brainstorming: Fixing the Offensive Line...
....or "We Got 99 Problems (And the O-Line Is the Main One)"
If yesterday's debacle in Nashville taught Raider Nation anything, it confirmed our collective worst fears about the offensive line. It truly was offensive.
So...how to fix it? I'm going to explore two options: fixing from within and help from outside.
Here’s how I would try to fix the O-line with the pieces we have:
Left tackle: Khalif Barnes
Left guard: Robert Gallery (Daniel Loper if Gallery’s hurt)
Center: Jared Veldheer
Right guard: Langston Walker
Right tackle: Mario Henderson
Barnes is nothing spectacular, but he has at least shown he can be a successful left tackle in this league, which is more than one can say for Baby Huey Mario Henderson.
Gallery at left guard is self-explanatory and Loper is the best option for backup.
I wouldn’t pull the plug on the Veldheer at center experiment just yet. I’d see how he handles the next two games. First, going against the Rams, who don’t exactly have a spectacular defensive interior, should give him some good experience. Second, going against Arizona’s 3-4 in week three will let us know if he can handle the big nose tackles. If he continues to struggle, then it’s time to put Satele back in.
Walker’s at right guard would be putting him back where he looked good last year. His size would be an asset in the “phone booth” and his lack of speed would be disguised to some degree.
Henderson at right tackle would allow him to concentrate on his strength–run blocking–as well as get him away from the speed rushers he can’t handle as a left tackle. Plus, it would allow Campbell to see the rushers coming if (or, if history is any indication, when) they do get by Mario.
That’s the best solution I can offer with the horses we’ve currently got in the stable.
Those horses, however, clearly aren't thoroughbreds. Let's look at the cavalry we could potentially try to call in for help:
Justin Hartwig: He's a proven, experienced center who was only cut by the Steelers because 1) Maurkice Pouncey is awesome and 2) they simply couldn't justify Hartwig's salary as a backup. If Veldheer can't hack it, I'd bring in Hartwig immediately. This to me is a no-brainer.
There are two other potential additions, but acquring them is problematic because they're currently under contract to other teams. However, both of these guys are, at present, on the outs with their clubs and they don't look to be on the ins anytime soon, if ever.
Looking at this year’s upcoming draft, outside of the first round, it’s a pretty weak crop. So, if I were GM, I’d be on the phone to AJ Smith in San Diego and Belichick in New England offering every draft pick I could to get Marcus McNeill and/or Logan Mankins. If there’s a year to trade away all your draft picks, 2011 is it.
Granted, major problems stand in the way of both those trades. San Diego probably wouldn't have much interest in trading a franchise left tackle to a division rival and New England seemingly wouldn't been too keen on helping the Raiders get better, since they own our first round draft pick.
But, it's worth a shot. At worst, they each can say "No, thanks." I hope Al picks up the phone sometime today and at least tries. Besides, we also have some pieces they might be interested in. Trevor Scott would be an ideal fit as a 3-4 OLB and both New England and San Diego could use a pass rush upgrade. Then too, Michael Huff might be attractive trade bait. Granted, it would leave us weak at free safety, but I'd rather be weak there than along the O-line. The team is already known to be willing to move Thomas Howard. The point I'm trying to make here is...we have some options.
Those are my suggestions. Got any of your own? Feel free to share 'em.
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Bringing in talent should be the 1st option. Then moving Veldheer to RT and Barnes to LT - Henderson is worthless
Satele back to C (Hartwig isn’t any better anymore – played poorly at C all last year … unless we converted him to Guard). Langston Gallery and Loper at Guards, absolutely. Bring in Grad, no waiting for Campbell to develop; we’ve been down that tired dead-end before. Play anyone who makes plays – bring in true, instead of lip-service, competition at every position – no more anointing on this team – starters must earn it.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
Word to starters earning their spots
I’m beyond sick of scholarships.
I’d be down with trying Veldheer at RT.
Kamerion Wimbley is the truth
by Raybin on Sep 13, 2010 8:44 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
One more week
After next week if things don’t improve, that may very well be the line. The Rams game should really be Henderson’s last shot, he must elevate his game and hold down his position, without the help of Zach Miller. The fact that we our losing Miller to blocking is a double negative ruin this offense.
Langston Walker at guard is the only possibility for him. He can no longer play tackle, the opposing defensive end is 2 steps engaged before Walker even gets out of his stance.
The Patriots could make a deal with the Raiders now. They don’t give a shit where the Raiders finish if they get good value that helps them now in a trade.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
I hope you're right about the Pats
The question is, would Al even pick up the phone?
Good point about Miller. Henderson at LT is a double liability.
Kamerion Wimbley is the truth
by Raybin on Sep 13, 2010 8:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Hartwing isn't any help for us
He sucks too, I’d get Gaither now. How available is McNeil?
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Gaither is hurt right now, I think
McNeill isn’t very available, sadly. AJ Smith seems determined to cut off his nose to spite his face in McNeill’s & Jackson’s cases.
Kamerion Wimbley is the truth
by Raybin on Sep 13, 2010 8:43 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Gaither
is currently out with a back injury and his further listed as the backup to Oniel Cousins at right tackle.
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by TheRaiderWay on Sep 13, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Change must start with a new left tackle
Since we have to start somewhere, the weak link seems to be the most important. Continued failure is getting out of hand here.
Winners always have high expectations...losers whine about schedules (or blame Dorrell).
left tackle
Why don’t the coach try the Cambell experiment…is he worser than useless henderson….
I wonder how bad Ugoh's toe is?
I would bring him in for a workout anyways. Are there any other serviceable OL out there?
by BayAreaSportzFan on Sep 13, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions
Depends on his injury
The Colts didn’t just cut him, they gave him an injury settlement which typically means it’s pretty serious. Still if he’s healthy, why the hell not?
Kamerion Wimbley is the truth
our o line is worthless
they suck we cannot fix this with these fat slow men,
the coaching staff should see this
by 414 RAIDER FREAK on Sep 13, 2010 3:30 PM PDT reply actions
campbell soup at LT
how bad can he be?
they need to coach him up and see. henderson stopped trying at times.
BCampbell is not ready
He’s way too raw right now. In 2 or 3 years, I think he could be a hell of a tackle if he develops technique to go along with his physical assets. But right now he’d get eaten alive, even worse than Henderson.
Kamerion Wimbley is the truth
I was thinking the same thing about the O-line. Great write up.
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Some good ideas...
I have also said that Barnes should be tried at LT, to push Henderson. Walker is not able to play RT; he was beaten regularly by the DE, and is relegated to the inside, RG. I really don’t want to see Campbell on the outside right now; he hasn’t shown he is as ready as Veldheer was, and we can see what the problems with him have been. Campbell Starting now would likely look even worse.
There are still a few OL out there:
Hartwig only at G, he really struggled at C.
Tony Washington.
Kynan Forney.
Adam Ulatoski.
Not much at this point, right off the top of my head. But quite simply, either new players or better performance are needed. Unfortunately, Al and Cable seem to think that what is on the roster is sufficient..
Failure builds character; success reveals it
i hear ya
Al and Cable seem to think that what is on the roster is sufficient.
this statement is sad & true !!!!!
what a joke ,, what does cable do besides wipe Al’s ass for him
by 414 RAIDER FREAK on Sep 13, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

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