Raider Wake up Call and A.S.A.P. Overhaul
The Defense, despite their conservative DC, "John of the impacted bowel", did an excellent job in the trenches. Dick Seymour and Big John Henderson played as tough as any Titan; Lamar Houston, Matt Shaughnessy and Trevor Scott held their own in the trenches. I have nothing, thus far, but admiration for Mike Wauffle and his DL, our DL.
The Cell Block played well too: LBs San Quentin, Death Ro, and Warden Wimbly carried out their assignments with only a few gaffs and improved on getting free of blockers and debris to get to the ball - as a group, they led in tackles as is proper Our DBs Asomugha and Routt also did their part to win the game.
But we lost, and lost badly. So, what went wrong? We know. On defense the Safeties blew coverage and missed tackles. Tyvon Branch, I'm guessing, played the worst game of his life, for despite his 6 tackles, Branch blew coverage resulting in two TDs. The fist was a 56 yard strike to Nate Washington when Tyvon left him to chase after some distraction (I watched the game at Ricky's and when that play occurred, Routt (as usual) got the blame) Then Branch missed that tackle on Chris Johnson near the LOS that would have prevented that 76-yard touchdown run; next he was beat by the Titan TE Scaife on the 26 yard TD.
Many will wonder why I'm dwelling on Branch. It's because I've noticed a trend that disturbs me, I've listened as certain players are praised despite their performances. Players like Jason Campbell, who like Branch, are given a free pass despite their performance. These "entitled players" (Dick Seymour was among them last year, having 4 or 5 poor games after Philadelphia that drew no censor) are exempted from criticism. Seymour is making up - big time - for his lax play during mid-season last year. But, now, the same trend is occurring with Jason Campbell whose shown only a couple of opening preseason drives. Cable promised open competition at every position, including QB; yet, with all those substitutions on Sunday (six starters) he did not substitute the struggling QB. Why was that? What was preventing him from letting Gradkowski play the second half? Bruce came in for Campbell against SF and quickly threw two TDs and galvanized the team last year, when it was in chaos, and he did it with the same offensive line that Campbell struggled all day with (except when handing or dumping off to Darren McFadden).
The fact is, we have tremendous talent on this team - top 10 talent - but weak, unimaginative coaching and a few weak-link players on both sides undermining and hindering us.
The Offensive Line must be immediately overhauled. Veldheer would make a great Center in time but we need him now at LT. Gallery or Loper remain at LG, Satele must come back to C, Soup Campbell and Langston are best at RG (and Cooper Carlisle should create an opening on the roster), Khaliff Barnes should play RT (unless Veld and he switch).
The Safety play is critical with our style of defense (Tampa 2), bring in Mitchell and Stevie Brown. Trade Huff and bench or rotate Branch. Tyvon is fast but constantly out of position and having to chase after. Hiram Eugene isn't great but he's smart, a good athlete and always near the ball. We need smart as well as tough and fast men at Safety ... and it doesn't matter if they are young if they learn quickly and have good instincts (think Stevie Brown).
Jackson must adjust his play calling to the limitations of the o-line and the QB. Long routes with a porous line and slow witted QB, albeit with a good arm, won't work - we need to involve JLH and Nick Miller in slants, button hooks, quick outs. Don't hesitate to bring in Grad. It won't shatter the psyche of Jason (but even if it does, tough shit, that's football Huey.
Marshall, use your OLBs for blitzing more often but keep Death Ro at home in the middle much of our trouble could be avoided by keeping the Stud at home in the middle.
I hope this helps.
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Good post
I will give Marshall a pass for not blitzing much last week. They faced a mobile QB who has a great dump off weapon. For the most part they did a good job of confining him to the pocket.
Next week would seem like a good time to unleash some blitzes.
I agree on Tyvon. At first, and I even posted as much, I thought it was Routt’s job on the TD. Not so. Safety play needs to improve. Starters may be Branch and Brown next week as Huff and Eugene are hurt. We may know more tomorrow.
Still, my biggest complaint is—I am going to keep saying this until it changes—put Nnam on the #1 and leave him there.
I actually thought Cooper played solid and Campbell wasn’t even active for the game. I expect Carlisle will be starting for a while. I am with you on the Tackle idea though.
Also, Seymour was dominant! He deserves extra mention. He had to leave with a hammy, but until then the guy was a one man wrecking crew. Early reports sound good about his availability on Sunday! Injury news is not looking as good for Gallery.
+ infinity for the cell block crew.
If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.
Thanks, Noon. You may have noticed I've reversed considerably on Richard (hah). Good play redeems almost everything
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Now he just needs the consistency.
All of a sudden though DT may be the strength of this team.
If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.
by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
The Entitled, indeed.
Excellent post about Campbell, Seymour and Branch’s free ride, and the allusion to Routt’s (and others) convenient scapegoating.
….Except that to end your post, you just also proved yourself guilty of the same internalized excuse making with McClain.
McClain was fooled off the snap on both TD runs by committing to the counter side of the play, before recovering just late enough to be completely walled off of the play, by at least 10 yards from being close.
Which he also allowed against the Bears on Matt Forte’s 80 yarder in the preseason.
And frankly you did it with Trevor Scott as well….He was awful yesterday. But I blame that more on Cable for moving him back to DE on the eve of the season….
pfassad
I'm glad you joined today, pfassad. You have an excellent and fresh set of eyes. And you are right about McClain and my bias.
If you have time and review the blog record, you’ll find that I was critical of his play in Chicago. But, Ro is showing steady improvement and his biggest weakness is just what you indicated – biting and overreacting. That’s why he, of all people, must stay at home and give the play a beat to develop before flying in – if he continues to misread then try Goethel in the middle whose shown a knack for knowing where the ball is heading (Ricky Brown is not an option).
Shaughnessy is playing better DE than T.Scott but Scott has been jerked around and his strength is passing downs; VYoung is a very mobile and challenging QB; but I expect Trevor to putt Sam on his back Sunday.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 6:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Overhaul is right
Young finishes with a QB rating over 140, and 150 yards on the ground for Johnson. The D had better not be pointing fingers, and had better be thinking as a unit. Probably Nnamdi was doing his job, but everybody else could be doing better.
Good assessment!
I don’t think we are in panic mode yet. That football team (Titans) came ready to play.
But if we even want to consider winning in January we have to learn how to play as a team. Tom Cable has to improve our glaring weaknesses.
1. Protecting the quarterback
2. Avoid mental mistakes
3.Man-up Tom Cable, and show some fire out there. (including questioning the refs and post-game press conferences.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
I think that Marshall does want to blitz more
he’s not the first DC here to not blitz. He went on record saying he hoped he didn’t get in trouble last year after the Eagles game for blitzing so much. Kiffin wanted Ryan to blitz more when Ryan was the DC. Ryan came out and said there’s a system here and that’s the team management wants.
I think Marshall’s fault is not testing how far he can prod management. But I think he does want to be less conservative. So I’ll agree w/ conservative in his way of thinking , but I can’t say for sure his play calling is.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
I did not see the game but read all the different articles and posting about it and it all say the same about the game. Typical but we love to give up one big play to a team that we never recover from. I do not agree with the assessment on Jason Campbell however because it always comes down to the offensive line. Without a good offensive line, no QB no matter what their name is will be able to make a pass. Ask Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman and a few others their first year. Tom Brady already had a line established when he came along and was made into a folk hero by the refs for the Fuck…i mean Tuck Rule. Our safeties have been horrible for a long time and Michael Huff must be considered a bust. He hits a player instead of tackling him and always show up late on pass plays. He has no instincts at all. I agree that the defense needs to blitz a helluva lot more because nothing else is working. I hear that Al Davis is the one who wants whatever brand of defense is being ran but if I was the DC I would run my own defense unless Al wants to wheel down to the field or box and coach and get his ass on the field to play. A team has got to have either a good offense, defense or special teams (kick-off and punt returns and coverage only) that works every week. We have all 3 that doesn’t work at all.
I've been lurking since Sunday ..
I wasn’t able to bring myself to comment on any of these posts until now. I was angry. I was optimistic. I honestly didn’t know what I was. Whether I was lying to myself, or just consoling my feelings for this season, who knows. But, I’ve calmed down. Took a deep breath, and realized it’s only one game .. There are 15 more to go. It was a good team. They were in their house, and were hyped up for the game. I can let that one go. So, here I go. I agree with almost everything you’re saying in this post Sons.
-For the most part, I was truly impressed with the defensive line. It’s hard to believe after all these years, it may be one of our biggest assets on the defense.
-I don’t think Death Ro had a good or a bad game. I think he was average, and made a few rookie mistakes. I believe he is our future though .. He’s going to have a few mistakes a game .. I just hope they stop costing us these big plays. Granted, there are ten other players on defense, but on the big plays he’s been completely blocked out of the equation.
-Campbell is doing the same thing he did at Washington. He’s holding onto the ball way to long. He looks like he doesn’t want to make a mistake. Just throw the damn ball Campbell .. Produce, do something. I’d be a lot less angry if he was trying and throwing interceptions, than being cautious and still throwing INTS! I believe Grad has a spark with this team .. But I still want to give Campbell the benefit of the doubt. I think Titans are much improved this year and will be a contender in the AFC. I am willing to give Campbell more time. If he looks this way against the Rams, then we may call into question whether we need Grad to start.
-When the Raiders gave up that pass to Nate Washington, everyone in my house was calling for Stanford Routt’s head. Normally, I would be the first to jump down his throat and want the same .. But you could tell he didn’t blow his assignment. I knew watching the replay, he was supposed to have a safety back there .. Tyvon’s tweet after the game about ‘personally apologizing,’ to the Raider Nation confirmed my belief it was his fault. Still, one bad game does not mean he sits out.
-Completely agree on the offensive line part. Henderson is horrible. I sat there and watched that one play over and over again .. My dad finally told me to let it go, but I was dumbfounded .. Even though it appeared the Titans defender jumped to quick .. Henderson didn’t even move! There was no whistle, PLAY!! They teach you this when you’re first starting out in football. DO NOT STOP UNTIL THE WHISTLE BLOWS!!! An offensive lineman should know this! It was beaten into my head everyday by my coaches, and I’m sure that it is no different anywhere else!! Henderson stood there. Like a damn statue. We needed SIX offensive linemen? Just replace Henderson and we would have been just as effective. Horrible. Henderson is garbage. No sense of urgency even when the ball came loose. He just stood there and looked at it. I am not sold on Satele. I’d rather keep Veldheer there. He had a few miscues, but it wasn’t all that bad for his first pro game. I’d move Barnes to LT. It’s a tossup about Carlisle. He can play great, or horrible. He wasn’t bad in Tennessee. If Gallery is hurt, I would have Bruce in at LG. If Gallery is seriously injured, I think we need to look at the possibility of replacing him .. We have a good relationship with the Patriots. It’s a VERY long shot, but they may think whatever we add, we won’t get any better. What would they accept for Mankins? I know it’s just a hamstring with Gallery, but what’s next? A reoccurring back issue? He seems to be to injury prone these days. Just a random thought. If that were to happen, we’d have Barnes, Mankins, Veldheer, Campbell/Carlisle, Campbell/Henderson (at least with Henderson at right tackle, Jason will be able to SEE the guy coming at him.)
-The Titans defense was well aware of our screen passes .. They batted down two of them that looked like they were going to be big plays. We need to work on this. Campbell must put the ball in his receivers’ hands. What was with that trick play also? And please don’t involve JLH anymore. Ever. Nick Miller, sure. But JLH, no.
-Would love to see more blitzing. I don’t think it’s going to happen as long as Daddy Al is around though.
-Mr. Davis. You ARE a legend. You ARE a genius. You ARE the most recognized NFL owner .. But your age has caught up with you, and you are recognized for another reason now. Please let your coaches do the coaching .. Please, let someone else do the college scouting. Please give up the reigns. We will adore you even more. It was time to quit awhile ago. Give us fans hope. Let us know you still care. NO ONE is more dedicated to the Raiders than you are, we all know that .. Get rid of your yes man. Please hire Jon Gruden back, or someone like him. Someone who doesn’t appear to be a players’ coach. Someone who has balls. Will get in a players face whenever they make a mistake. Someone who brings energy and passion back into this organization. Someone who can call their own plays. Blitz even as much as Rex Ryan if they wanted too. (Note: Not saying I want all out blitzing on every single play, just an example). You can help this team by giving up your influence in the front office and on the field. Sit back, relax .. And just enjoy the games ..
-Just win, baby.
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)
"It's ours for the taking."
by RaiderCreator5150 on Sep 15, 2010 7:27 AM PDT reply actions
It's obvious you've been percolating from the points made and passion behind them. Tom isn't going anywhere for awhile
and that’s probably for the best, in the short term. But, he will be gone if our record is 4-5 or worse at the Bye. Therefore, he really does need to change as much as anyone. He’s way too involved personally with his players, coddles them, makes excuses for them, e.g. uses the collective ‘we’ when apologizing for Campbell not handling a snap or getting rid of the ball or giving rookie tells to the opponents DL. Don’t ask me how this team could be flat at Tennessee but, at least, on offense it was. Every game, especially games like this Sunday, is critical – we cannot afford – we are not (as a team) good enough to look past any other team on our schedule.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions
How is it
we mere mortal fans of the game and especially our team know what is truly wrong? Such obvious player personnel issues, lack of play calling and what possible fill ins that are available could at the very least improve the situation. Why is that we as mere fans who shell out hard earned money knew for the most part Ja……..never mind was a bust pretty well after game 2 last year if not sooner. How we all know that bush is better as the every down between the tackles RB. How we all know McNotSoBroken should be better utilized as Bush in New Orleans is. Routt is not great no matter Branch’s complete over commitment on the Washington TD. Kelly is a waste of money and Big John can fill the gap no problem and Kelly can find his way back to the buffet line. Henderson is a bust at LT duh! Knew that one last year along with Walker being less than adequate. Nnamdi should be put on the #1 WR no matter what during every game no matter what side of the field. What the fuck is wrong with this? I feel like I am in a twilight zone episode or it’s ground hog day. can we not make some rationale football reasoning decisions? We all see it and the Emperor has no clothes! 1-3 years of rebuilding after a huge Super Bowl push for a few years and having aging veterans would be accepted and expected………..but really going on 8 years and looking to be more of re-rebuilding? Come on now. We all see the forest despite the trees why can’t our team’s staff and front office stop the kool-aid drinking and smell the coffee brewing, actually burning in the pot because it sat for so long.
When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 15, 2010 7:49 AM PDT reply actions
If you've seen pictures of Al Davis lately and you've heard him speak then that should answer your question.
He should remain as a consultant and that’s it. He should give up all personell decisions. I believe this isn’t the year we will see a dramatic change in the culture of this organization from top to bottom but next year will be. Something will happen that will rock this organization and will put a new direction on this franchise for the foreseeable future. Its obvious no changes are happening this year and even though there is no first round pick next draft I honestly believe something will rock the foundation of this franchise and will result in many changes. There are many ways this could happen and no one wants to touch this scenario but it may have to happen in order for this to occur. What if Oakland plays so poorly (very likely) that we end up drafting in the top 5 or worse top 3? Also what if New England possibly wins the Super Bowl this year? That means they are coming off a Super Bowl Championship with a top draft pick thanks to a trade from us. I think something like that is what it might have to take in order for Al to give up the reigns. That would be the point of no return and he can’t blame any coach that he himself hired.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
O-Line
I have to agree… Veldheer has much more potential at Tackle. Besides that, Center wasn’t our weakest point. Satele needs to improve, I’ll be the first to say it. But I’d much rather see him in at Center and Veldheer improving at LT because Henderson isn’t getting any better. For that matter, how about dumping somebody, and trying to get Kevin Mawae out of retirement. Dude’s got alot of miles on him, but I think he’s got alot of miles left in the tank.
I believe ..
Mawae has already announced his retirement.
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)
"It's ours for the taking."
by RaiderCreator5150 on Sep 15, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
So did Seau
That’s what I referred to when I said to get him out of retirement.
Can't bench Branch after one bad game
I don’t think anyone is giving Branch a pass on his poor performance on Sunday. We all recognized that he got out of position on plays that led to Titans TDs. Even Tyvon acknowledged that he struggled in his “Talkin’ With Tyvon” segment today.
However, calling for Branch’s demotion after Sunday is tantamount to becoming Chicken Little. Few of us on this blog went through this offseason particularly concerned with Tyvon’s role on the team or his play from the previous year. I mean, the guy had the most tackles of any defensive back last year.
Calling for reform on the offensive line is one thing – that unit has constantly struggled for the past 2-3 years without significant changes to the lineup. Calling for Branch’s head after one bad game is an overreaction.
Agree with much of what you say here
I was wrong on Routt, miscalled it during the game, but it was Branch that had the responsibility on the TD throw. Still, I don’t know that we have anyone that can step in right now that we know can, or will, play better. If that was his worst game, unless he has his worst game again, then next week he will be better, back, or closer, to the form that earned him the starting spot.
Campbell didn’t have a great game, but he wasn’t exactly a statue either, IMO. As bad as his slides looked, he was able to make plays with his feet, and created some time by moving around in, or out of the pocket. Some obvious indecision, but I can’t say whether that was reluctance to force the ball, not enough confidence in the WR, or what. Personally, I don’t think that a single game, much less half, behind that kind of OL play is enough to warrant a change, but if it continues, then the logical step is to bring in the backup.
Absolutely the OL needs to be worked, that was a pathetic showing last week.
I do think that this team has talent, although I don’t know that it is top 10. It is much better than was shown in Tennessee, that is beyond question. The reason I say that I don’t know that it is that good is because, as much as I believe that the potential is there, it doesn’t matter until I see the production…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
You see, that's the problem with the coaching and some of the Nation, they are frightened to try new things and have their
pet players. Yeah, Tyvon is a good athlete and has had good games, but he melted down and should be sat down a game for the principle – discipline. Also, put yourself in Eugene’s or Brown’s or Mitchell’s positiion, how for Fuck’s sake would that make you feel, that you are considered to piss-poor that the guy above you can play like shit and remain. Same goes for Campbell, if he stalls try Gradkowski – how will it hurt!!! I want to win games and these guys want to win friends and kiss player’s assess.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem is the team culture that never seems to change
There are too many players where failure is an option. And it’s not like they fail for like a game or 3, they fail for entire seasons and still remain on the team or in the starting line-up. It gets really frustrating watching the final 53 come out and see the same tired names on the roster that failed to play well the year before (Williams, Henderson, Huff, etc). The scholarship program here has to end in order for there to be real competition and the best players are out on the field. A strong head coach with real decision making power could go a long way in that effect, since his fate would be tied to the players he chooses, but since we all know who picks the players, certain players will continue to get a pass to fail.
Is it basketball season yet?
That's right, and Cable is clearly not the guy to change it - just heard he's bringing back Eric Pears. It's so bad, I'm laughing now.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Gawd, I hope not...
Barf.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Agreed
If players don’t produce, bench ‘em. Branch has always been a little hit or miss. Campbell seems to resign himself to getting sat on. Brown and Gradkowski both play with fire, great instincts, and heart. Waiting around for some jackass player’s sense of entitlement to wear out is largely what has led to 7 years of shitty seasons. You start sitting guys, maybe the guys that are sand bagging see the writing on the wall and step up. Especially with the O Line. What’s the worst that can happen? Raider QB’s are already spending more time on their backsides than bus drivers.
Yes Overhaul
I agree with the idea of an overhaul on the O-line. But I’m not sure if we can trust Satele at center. I would bring back Jake Groves who is available and start him at center. I would move Langston Walker to guard and cut C. Carlisle. As for the tackles we need good pass protectors. Jared Veldheer could play on either side of the line. Maybe he could fit at right tackle. And either Khalif Barnes or Bruce Campbell would start at left tackle. I don’t think I would bench Tyvon Branch yet. I would move him over to free safety and put Mike Mitchell at strong safety.
by erickench20012002@ on Sep 15, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I wouldn't mind
bringing in Groves for the year, cutting Pears, and rotating the two rookie tackles on our ends where they belong.
As I look at last weeks game
First of all that was AL Game Plan. I refuse to believe Hue is that Dumb. Every snap the WR’s ran down the field we never tried any short throws. The reason DMC was open because the Titans just played deep coverage all game long. Defense was the same old thing Nnamdi play on the right side no matter what they have on the other side. If we run this same Defense Sunday we are going to lose and bad. Sam Bradford is said it today They play a lot of man coverage. There is nothing Wrong with man coverage when you can get there fast. Our Problem is we have a good DL but no Pass rushers. We never stunt move around our dline. I want to see a wrinkle from time to time. Guys as much we love AL Davis if we lose this year it’s all on him. We know Hue Jackson can call a better game plan than what we saw. That looked just like Tom Cables offense last year. We all expect a bettter team this year but if we run deep passes and play man to man we will be lucky to go 5 and 11.
If it's Al's plan, then what's Hue doing?
He should then sit down with Al and explain why he thinks it’s not a good one. Why doesn’t he?
by Spirals galore on Sep 15, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder the same thing
It seemed last year as if Cable was able to get Al’s ear and do something differently; not hugely, but more than has happened recently. If that was the case, then why not continue on the same path, and go with something that might actually work, rather than the crap that sucked all last year…?
Failure builds character; success reveals it
I don't love Al Davis
I think he’s a nowhere near as gifted in the game as some people believe. Anyone who controls an NFL roster for 50 years can win 3 super bowls (or AFL chamionships which the Raiders never won). If he wasn’t so hated, he might even have more SBs if not for all the “missed” calls over the years. He has taken credit for Ron Wolf’s expert personnel moves in the 70’s, many of those players carried over to the 80’s. You know, the glory years. You don’t think Al scouted and picked those players yourself do you?
Anyway, as far as game planning, you may have a good point with regard to how much control Hue has. That would be shameful since the writing has been on the wall for a while now. Al, you suck more than you will ever know.
by Al's Wingman on Sep 15, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with you that Al sucks more than he knows
in one particular respect – he thinks he’s the world expert in HR. I wouldn’t reject all he’s done – and I think he is still in his right mind otherwise. However, as one ancient guy said, ego has brought down many a mighty nation and rulers alike. I hate sweeping generalization, but this one sadly rings true.
by Spirals galore on Sep 15, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
don't you think anyone can win 3 SBs in 50 years?
I don’t give Al any credit at all for anything. Any fantasy football person can do what he does. What he is not doing right is everything. Do your research based on skill sets that mnatter, not just size and speed, draft smart, pay smart, hire staff smart, bring in FAs to fill needs, make fans like you so they will support the team when things are rough. Hire front office people that have a clue and with some authority.
by Al's Wingman on Sep 15, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I see your point
Fortuna blinds those whom she falls in love with. You shouldn’t have let yourself be blinded by Fortuna, Baby Al, because you are Al, not just anyone else.
It’s pretty much the Oedipus story all over again. Oedipus outsmarted the Sphinx and assumed he was smarter than anyone, including Fate. When he discovered he wasn’t, he overpunished himself, to make a point. What would Al do?
by Spirals galore on Sep 15, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
We know Hue Jackson can call a better game plan than what we saw.
With a 4-12 and 5-11 record as a OC, in 2 different, nonconsecutive years….how do we know this almighty master of knowledge?
But, yes it’s been said now by other people that have left, and not just Gannon and earlier era, but coaches and players since then that there is a system in place.
It may be the reason no one with balls and a pedigree would come here since Gruden….well we could count Kiffin in. He’s an asshole no doubt, but that doesn’t make him an alright coach. And I think he was on to something here.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Good point
The expectation is that he would be, at the very least, not as horrible as Cable at calling a game, coming as he did from a team with a solid, run-oriented offense with a number of good backs.
So far, it has yet to be proven.
In preseason, I did not expect to see too much of the offense, but after the first week, I wonder if I did see it all. I’d laugh but it would hurt…
I hope to gawd that there is more to this offense than we have seen, that Jackson is not a clone of Cable as OC, because Cable blew dog in that position. I hope that we can get some penetration and pressure from the defense, and maybe force some turnovers as well. I hope that what the OL showed last week is more mirage than reality.
I didn’t think that I was going to have to hope for quite so much…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
In defense of Branch +
Barnes was brought in to compete at LT but could not beat out Henderson in camp. No use putting him there. Though Barnes is not a good RT either so for now, I would leave Lard Duff Langston at RT. I would even be in favor of the recently re-signed Pears to play RT simply because we are SOL and need options. I’d also like to see Veldheer get a shot at LT. I don’t get the sense he’s very fluid at center.
Coach Laying Cable says the OL can be “fixed” but I am hoping he rotates personnel since what we have in place now is clearly not working.
I disagree with you on Branch. First of all, he was not just praised last season because he made so many tackles. Branch also got the Ed Block Courage Award (nominated by Al to be the Raiders representative) because he played injured and played well when injured (fact of life in the NFL but he also returned kicks with a cast on – or was that two seasons ago?). We all know he led the team in tackles because the front line and LB run D was awful. Still, the Strong Safety has to make those plays and he did for the most part.
As for the busted coverage against Titans’ Nate Washington, that is on Routt, unless Branch was playing free safety (i don’t think he was). I don’t claim to be an expert in coverage schemes but here is the problem: the Raiders play man to man coverage. Everyone knows what to prepare for when playing the Raiders D and everyone knows how to beat that coverage scheme. A strong safety does not have deep coverage responsibilities except in cover 2 formations and the raiders just don’t play cover 2 so there is no justification for blaming Branch for deep coverage bust. Let’s not use the “he could have jammed him at the line of scrimmage and prevented him from getting down field” excuse. The single deep safety is free and that is either Huff or Eugene. They tried Mitchell there but he is terrible at coverage (and so is Branch but FS is not his position). Stevie Brown makes all his plays as a FS.
Routt is CB. The CB covers deep man regardless of whatever else is going on. Routt just does not read plays well. He is fine when he gets on his man but if the receivers confuse him he misses his assignments. That’s what happened. it’s a shame too because Routt has impressive physical skills and he’s not a dumb guy at all. He just misses more plays than he makes. A good player does not need 6 years to fully develop himself at a position. late bloomer my ass.
So you're saying that right after the play that Branch drew the 17 yard penalty for PI giving Tenn a 1st down on their 44, and
lined up on Washington he released him to someone else? Why, when we’re playing man2man would he do that?
Against Bradford (who threw 55 times v Ariz), Marshall better keep SS back.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Watch the clip
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a743ae/Young-launches-56-yard-TD-bomb
Routt is 26. Washington blasts right past him. Routt is not even looking ready.
Am I seeing this correctly? Other opions are welcome.
I don’t think Branch should have lined up at all against Washington unless they were playing 3 receivers. The receivers that line up outside are the CBs man. IF they are playing Branch at free safety then there is a problem. That’s the wrong position for him.
The PI is bad but it’s no secret Branch is poor in coverage. Routt still has dozens more PIs to his credit though. He looked very lax on this play and Washington has some good speed.
Branch was playing the middle and reacted to the well executed fake to Johnson going to D's right; when he realized it was
a bootleg he stumbled going back into coverage and was clipped and out of it. Still, there wasn’t another WR for Routt, so this could be a double botch perfect storm. The play is instructive – the whole team bites hard on play action – comically.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
On that last note, we couldn't have faced a worse team for our defense than this. CJ and VY - we key on CJ and VY burns us.
Clearly we were keying the run; that clip reminds me of how children play the game by pure emotion devoid of sophistication or cunning. Our players might be badly coached or they were hell bent on stopping CJ no matter what. Fortunately, none of our divisional rivals have anyone with the magician-like abilities of Vince Young.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Take a dog and throw a stick, then pretend to throw the stick and the dog runs after nothing. That is how to beat our LBs & DBs
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
God, I wish we had Jeff fisher as coach
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
The same thought crossed my mind - even before this game. Really, smart and tough - quality coach
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 16, 2010 5:36 AM PDT up reply actions
We all Know Al Will never hire a Defense guy as the head coach.
But I am with you guys he make that defense look good with no big names
Branch has the harder assignment
Branch has to diagnose the play-action, whereas Routt has no such excuse. Interestingly enough, Branch noted his errors on two of the Titans’ rushing TDs, but didn’t mention Washington’s TD catch.
I missed a tackle at the line on Chris and then got beat up top on the goal line for a second touchdown. I just missed those assignments.
I don’t think you can put all, or even a majority, of the blame for Washington’s TD on Branch.
The players and coaches know - but Cable will never let the public know. He keeps us in the dark and feeds us shit
He, like the organization he belongs to, has placed a fixed barrier between the team and the fan – they give us propaganda and tired cliche’s. It doesn’t come off as arch condescension only b/c Cable is the most gifted mouth-piece Al has ever stumbled across. Cable is much shrewder than he looks. All the B.S. aside, we have some of the most sophisticated fans anywhere … but that only makes it worse, especially when their premise is that we can’t handle the truth, for that underestimates our loyalty. Fuck them! The Raiders will be around when their gone.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 15, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless Al Davis hires a GM and gives up control
We the fan will suffer.
But then again,It’s almost comical how they pan the camera to show AL sitting there in his luxury box, when we are getting our asses handed to us.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
I would like to know
where the “football buy” he lied to us about is.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
+1 MILLION SOB!
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
Bench Branch.
Then suggest to me who could Play Strong Safety RIGHT NOW. Mitchell? He’s WORSE in Coverage than Branch is, as in he overpursues, and probably would have bit hard on that playaction.
Once again, Brown, is a ROOKIE.
Yes, Tyvon played Horrible. However, right now, he is the BEST that we have, and is a starting caliber safety in the NFL.
Think about this: If we sat players the way that you wanted to, we would probably lose more games than we have…reason being, besides the Offensive Line, At Safety, while we all want the big hit, we need SMART PLAY.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 16, 2010 9:18 AM PDT reply actions
Not playing smart is killing us worse than anything. You saw the game, O-Line aside, we were very physical and very fast
but our reactions were collectively like a wild wolf pack – it comes down to coaching and is odd that our speed is being neutralized by intelligent tactics by opponents, i.e. Fisher, and probably Charlie Weis.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 16, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I agreee on that.
Let’s see if something actually Changes this game.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 16, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m not saying sit Branch or Campbell or Henderson for the year because they had a god awful game. I’m saying, when they screw the pooch that many times, yank ‘em, and see how the 2nd string player does. If the 2nd stringer plays his ass off, and outshines, great. If not, that’s why he’s on the bench, and next week, or even next quarter the starter comes back in, ostensibly to prove why he’s the starter.
I give a 2-3 game chance
Kerry Rhodes on the jets last year was benched after week 7, I think.
If ANYONE on that O-Line plays horrible this next week, bench em.
But I will Give Branch 3 games and Campbell 2. Because if We lose to the Rams, there HAS to be a reason.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 16, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
That's my policy too. Keeps the 2nd stringers hungry and hopeful and the starters sharp.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 16, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
We need to switch people around both sides of the ball
Many of you have said Michel huff is a bust, how about this, have him play his natural position at corner.Say what u have to say about his tackling, he can cover pretty much any reciever and tight end. ROutt is a garbage corner who bites hard on every play action or pump fake! Insert Branch at FS and Michell at SS. CUt EUgene because hes horrible at coverage and decent tackling skills.
by Frank Calderon on Sep 16, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions




































