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Ahh...The Battle of Los Angeles! Click the link...do it and thank me later. Rock while you read! 

Much like the incident that earned this title, which was depicted in Steven Spielberg's historically accurate reenactment, it isn't really happening. Since both teams left small market Los Angeles for the media spotlights of St. Louis and Oakland, it would be more appropriate to call it the battle of the rebuilding. Still, nothing like rekindling an old rivalry to get the juices flowing.

Actually, did anyone ever care about Rams vs. Raiders? Who cares! I care now and that's all I care about. That's a lot of caring this early in the season.

If there is such a thing as a must win game in Week 2, this is it. The Raiders and its Nation are in desperate need of a victory in the home opener. A loss and I am quickly back on the meds that promise to cure Raider depression. Side effects be damned!

Okay, so I think we can all agree the Raiders need a win and I think most everyone agrees they are rightfully favored to win. The Raiders are a 3.5 to 4 point favorite in this contest. The betting public expects a defensive battle with the over/under sitting consistently at 37.5. This is the second lowest over/under of the weekend.

3.5 to 4?!?! That's not enough. Just look at this in-depth analysis of the Rams last season: They sucked...at everything. They were 1-15!

Should be an easy win for the Raiders right? A team coming off a 1-15 campaign while starting a rookie QB...no problem. Well, not so fast, this match-up doesn't look as easy as it once did.

Star-divide

What Has Me Reaching For Those Meds:

The Rams front 7 vs. The Raiders O-line:

The Rams D-line looks to be a vastly improved unit. They looked good in the pre-season and had a solid opening. Overall, the Rams had two sacks and hit the QB 9 times in Week One.

Chris Long is alive! He had 3 QB hits and one sack as he finally looked like the player that was worthy of being drafted #2. Lucky for him, he will be lining up against what may be the worst Tackles in the league.

I am sure Tom Cable is working on ways right now to offer protection help to his struggling Tackles. Son of Howie wouldn't sack a Raider would he? Come on Howie, just tell Chris you'll take away his cell phone for a week if he tackles anyone in a Raider jersey.

Long is not alone on the line. The addition of Fred Robbins has helped shore up the middle. He had a great pre-season and Week One debut. Robbins registered a sack among his 4 tackles against the Cardinals and provide stout run D.

The Rams looked improved against the run all pre-season. Thanks not only to the line, but to the maturation of a young LB corp. This corps features budding star James Laurinaits in the middle and  Larry Grant and Na'il Diggs on the outside. 

Despite the improvements, they surrendered 112 rushing yards to the Cardinals at 5.3 yards per carry. The interesting thing here is that the majority of the Cardinals success came on one drive that featured 4 runs that were 15 yards or longer.

Other than those four runs the Cardinals gained 37 yards on 17 carries.

Steven Jackson vs. The Raiders D

Jackson is a beast! The guy can do it all and with a rookie QB at the helm the Rams are going to ask him to.

The Cardinals effectively shut down Jackson last week and forced Bradford to try and beat them. Jackson had 81 yards on 22 carries.

The Rams O-line, which looks to be a strength, struggled to open up holes for Jackson. Jackson also suffered from an inflamed knee and had an MRI after the game. No damage was revealed.

I expect heavy doses of Jackson in this one as the line tries to establish itself and the coaches take pressure off their QB who attempted the third most passes in franchise history last week with 55.

The Rams disciplined play and turnovers:

The Rams only had 5 penalites last week and forced 4 turnovers.

What Helps The Fear Go Away

The Raiders D vs. The Rams Passing Offense

A rookie QB making his first start on the road usually doesn't end up well and while Bradford had many plays displaying why he was worthy of a his draft status, he also had many plays that you'd expect out of a rookie. Bradford ended up with 3 picks and a QB rating in the mid 50's.

The Rams are thin at WR. The loss of Donnie Avery combined with Laurent Robinson's status for the game in doubt effectively destroy their already muted deep passing threat. While Robinson may play with a sprained ankle, it will surely limit his effectiveness. 

The Rams have become a notoriously dink and dunk passing attack. They averaged just 5.5 yards per catch last season--which was good for 29th in the league--and 4.6 yards per catch last Sunday (note: these numbers do not include YAC).

This combined with the Raiders DB's abiltiy to man up on the WR's should allow the Raiders to stack the box and take away Steven Jackson.

It is worth noting that a rejuvinated Mark Clayton came in and had a career best 10 catches last week. Coaches put Nnam on Clayton please and take away the rookies favorite target!

The Raiders Passing Attack vs. The Rams Nickel Defense

Of course, for the Raiders to get the Rams in the Nickel they will have to get the quality of play from the O-line that allows them to get out of max protection packages.

If they do, the Raiders should be able to get their passing game on track. The Cardinals exploited the Rams Nickel coverage last week. Part of this is due to injury. The Rams will be without their starting Nickel LB, Chris Chamberlain, and their starting Nickel DB and possibly his back-up.

While the Rams starting DB, Ron Bartell, did an admirable job shadowing Larry Fitzgerald last week, it was largely when the Cardinals went to a more wide open attack that Steve Breaston was able to get 7 catches for 142 yards.

Match-up To Watch:

The Raiders Interior D-line vs. The Rams Interior O-line

The Rams O-line is really good Guard to Guard. Combine this with Steven Jackson and the Rams can often count on interior runs keeping them out of 3rd and long situations.

While the Raiders had serious doubts at defensive tackle this off-season, it is suddenly looking like a strength. There is some question mark with the availability of Richard Seymour. Seymour dominated a good interior Titan offensive line last week and if he can do the same against the Rams it will go a long way towards a Raider victory.

Seymour doesn't need to worry about holding down the middle by himself. Tommy Kelly and John Henderson were stout against the run last week and are joined by Jay Alford and possibly Des Bryant to add incredible depth.

Keys To The Game:

The Raiders need to contain Steven Jackson and force the Rams into 3rd and longs. They need to put pressure on the rookie QB in passing situations and force mistakes. While the Rams Offensive Line looks solid they are still incredibly raw at Tackle. The Rams starting Tackles have a combined 7 career starts. They are starting 2nd round pick Jason Saffold at LT and last year's #2 overall selection, Jason Smith at RT.

The offensive line needs to actually pass protect this week and when they do, Jason Campbell has to let it fly and take advantage of the thin Rams Pass Defense.

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Does anyone get more nervous for the games we are supposed to win?

I find I’m way more nervous beofer the games we are supposed and favored to win over the ones where we are the underdog.

As pointed out above this is a great opportunity to recover in our areas of weakness from last week. Above all…our o-line really needs to show us something. The Rams front 7 is nothing to scoff at but we should be able to get our offense going against these guys. I really want to see what Campbell can do with a little more time.

This is a really great opportunity for a bounce back game and that’s what gets me so nervous.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Sep 15, 2010 5:19 AM PDT reply actions  

I was rooting for the Raiders

Especially Jason Campbell. Who needs more time in the pocket. Same thing we couldnt give him. And My Boy DHB from MARYLAND!! Home of the Terrapins. Good Luck this week!

Fight On, Fight On, Til You Have Won! Sons of Washington! Rah! Rah! Rah!

by HailToTheRedskins on Sep 15, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok..just to be honest ive never uttered (insert Noon thread title here) on a date!!..Whew!!..ok i got that out my system..now on to football..

I dont view this as a bounce back game..but more of an important game to show the world that last week was indeed a fluck loss for us.ok maybe what im saying is the same a a bounce back game, but winning sunday would put us in the upper echelon of the league (as far as being 1-1) and confidence breeds better play, which breed more fire on O/D, which breeds motovation, which breeds me laughing my ass off cuz Kanye West is being called a gay fish cuz he likes Fishsticks. Ehhh!!!

I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 15, 2010 5:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't care what the score is next week.

Also I would like to think last week was a fluke but time will tell on that one. Also winning against a 1-15 team from a year ago against a rookie in his first road start will put no one in the upper echelon of the league. I want to see a gameplan and a flow to the offense and defense throughout the game. Even if its a close score but we’re in control throughout and end up with a win I will be happy. Next step, look forward to Arizona.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Sep 15, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m expecting a big game out of Jason Campbell, Lamarr Houston and Nnamdi Asomugha.

Jason Campbell has already lost a lot of the Nation. In order to regain some of that respect, he needs to shred St. Louis.

Lamarr should have a fun time with Jason Smith this week. I’m sure he’ll love hitting Sam Bradford again.

Nnamdi is going to be in Sam’s head this entire game. Hell, he’s probably already been in there since Monday. I almost feel bad for Sam. Having to deal with the best CB in the game in only your 2nd game can’t be much fun.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Sep 15, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm all in on the Raiders this weekend

At least on fantasy football. I’m starting Campbell over Tom Brady (who has to go against Revis and the Jets pass rush) and the Raiders defense. Don’t let me down, boys!

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 9:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Keys to victory this week:

1) Healthy dose of DMac. If he can roll up 95 yards against the Titans D, he should be able to run wild over the Rams. I wanna see him roll up 22 or 23 carries and 5 or 6 receptions.

2) Revamp the passing gameplan after last week’s disaster. Three step drops and quick releases to Murphy and DHB. Bubble screens to guys like JLH and Figurs to relieve the pressure on Campbell if the pass protection fails again. Work in Marcel Reece on dumpoffs.

3) Get Zach Miller involved early and often.

4) Pressure, pressure, pressure. Get in the rookie quarterback’s face. The Rams have an O-line to rival our own in terms of suck. Rodger Saffold is really good and should be able to handle Trevor Scott and Matt Shaughnessy, but Seymour and Houston had better be living in the backfield.

5) This is the week to starting moving Nnamdi around. Bradford should never, ever be sure where he’s going to be. Asomugha is the best and, if Bradford gets confused or pressured, should be able to feast on the mistakes.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Also...time to blitz

No reason not to blitz in this game and like you said get pressure on Bradford. I think Seymour is going to put a scare into Bradford and have a great game. I know it wasn’t reasible to blitz last week with a guy like Young at QB but we should no trouble with unleashing the dogs against this type of o-line and QB. I really want to see a dominant performance from the D this game.

As much as I’d love for Nnamdi to be put in different spots all game…it has rarely ever happened in the past and I doubt it will start now. They say they’ll let him cover the #1 guy at the start of every season but it never happens which is pretty sad.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Sep 15, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty good trick

If Campbell can complete a pass to Figurs. But I agree with your points.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 15, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh, at the time I wrote this...

…Figurs was still on the team.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 16, 2010 5:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 16, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, one thing is for certain,

Figurs should be wide open.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 16, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This seems like as good a place as any to note..

….I finally saw the clip of Johnson’s 76 yard gallop to the endzone yesterday. Pissed me right the hell off. Seymour and Wimbley were both getting MUGGED on the play. You can actually see Seymour throw up his hands as if to say “What the hell?” as the camera pans away to follow Johnson.

And just for the record, I’m a guy who 95 percent of the time hates when people bitch about uncalled holding. That’s how blatant this was.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Glad I didn't see that...

I really like my TV… I’d hate to put a beer can through it. Which probably happened to alot of Dallas fans sunday nite.

by the red guy on Sep 15, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw that

but I blame that more on how gassed the D was after the drive before that ended in Ringer’s TD. Tired players let themselves get held…this is why Howie Long was so amazing, he had the best rip move in history…

we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!

by transparent58 on Sep 15, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Make or break week ..

We must go out and establish a rhythm against the Rams with our offense. Good break down of the two teams. I think that Campbell really needs to get the offense going this weekend. Spreading the ball around will be key, as well as him getting the ball to his receivers. There were two screen plays against the Titans last week he just lobbed, hoping that the backs would get the ball. They were thrown pretty poorly. Release the ball Campbell! Let it rip. Everyone makes mistakes. Stop worrying so much about everything.

Defense needs to stuff the run, and get in Bradford’s face. Hopefully, Tyvon will be kind enough to have his head in the game this weekend and play a good game. He only had one bad game .. I’m thinking he’ll snap out of it pretty quickly. If we don’t blitz, our four upfront will have to keep that pressure on.

Nnamdi is, Nnamdi. Enough said.

Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)
"It's ours for the taking."

by RaiderCreator5150 on Sep 15, 2010 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Great Job

As a Ram’s fan, I think your scouting is pretty much right-on. Of course, as a Raider fan you missed that Campbell has sruggled against Coach Sprag’s defenses in the past.
Yes, your at home and should be favored. If the refs are on their game this week for both teams, I’m taking the Ram’s pass rush as the difference in the game. I agree that Bradford will make rookie mistakes this week, but I do expect the Ram’s to continue his growth under fire and throw close to 30 times and challenge the Raider secondary of course away from Nnum.
Disipline and Special Teams win it For the Rams 24-17

by Taosman on Sep 15, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

You know, if we would’ve beaten Tennessee, I would be laughing my ass off at your prediction. I’m still chucking, just not as hard as I should be.

Oakland 28

St. Louis 6

Bradford leads the way with another 3 interception game.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Sep 15, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would say that

AZ has better safeties than we do. Adrian Wilson is an animal…

we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!

by transparent58 on Sep 15, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your a homer for sure!

Bradford may throw 3 picks, but no way do the Raiders score 28. B.T.W., I live in the Bay area, and watched the game and you can say “Would’ve”. At least Ram’s fans can say “Should have”.

by Taosman on Sep 15, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

You're right. If the Raiders "Would've" been playing the Cardinals.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thats crazy, letting a rook throw 30x's!!

Just saying that cuz most coaches would never do that, but hes capanle of making big plays. I respect Bradford’s ability.

I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 15, 2010 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Fire

I hate to point it out, but Jason Campbell needs to start showing a little fire. On that play against the Titans where Mario Henderson just kind of stood there watching his QB get publicly sodomized. At that point Campbell would have been well within his right to kick him all the way back to the sideline. That seems to be JC’s weak point. Same with the delay of game penalty. There should have been nonstop ass chewings about that. I think he better get his shit together.

by the red guy on Sep 15, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

It's not his style

basically you’re want Phyllis Rivers as our QB, how did his temper tantrums pan out in KC on Monday night? I’ll guarantee you Mario has heard all about since the play happened, as has Veldheer, but you don’t publicly bust someone’s chops…

we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!

by transparent58 on Sep 15, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Slow Down

I’m not saying Rivers is the guy, or that he didn’t go overboard. What I am saying, is that when dudes are walking toward the huddle, or the sideline with a look of resignation, like “Well, at least that one didn’t hurt as bad”, something’s wrong.

by the red guy on Sep 15, 2010 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's ironic

Jerry Mac in his chat is far less negative than some of us have been. That’s been the only real comfort so far. He did say we’re a better team that last year, at least. He keeps reminding us Tenn was just one game too.

by rightnasty on Sep 15, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

A lot of us need to be reminded that it was JUST one game…

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Sep 15, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Remind me one more time, maybe it’ll stick :)

by rightnasty on Sep 15, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

1 game at a time

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Sep 15, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Indy, Dallas, the Dolts, and the Jets are 0-1 just like us

Doesn’t always matter how you lose.

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Sep 15, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most of them were predicted to win their division

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Sep 15, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Jets offense was a lot worse than ours..

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Sep 15, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ya

Niner fans are pretty upset too in their forum. Jeez, what a buzzkill.

by rightnasty on Sep 15, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel bad ’cause we warned them…Alex Smith is NOT a good QB.

True knowledge consists in knowing that you know nothing

by JaKe. on Sep 15, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, but

Redskin fans have said much the same thing about Campbell…

we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!

by transparent58 on Sep 15, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa...

The Redskins fans I have talked to say the kinds of things about Campbell, that Alex Smith hears in his wet dreams.

They didn’t think JC was elite, but no where near the levels of suck that JaAlex Smith inspires.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better check his house for Purple Drank

You know what would make a good story? Something about a clown who make people happy, but inside he's real sad. Also, he has severe diarrhea.

by Buster Bluth on Sep 15, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know who should be checked for the Sizzup?

Mark Sanchez. Did anyone watch the Monday night game? Sweet sassy molassey, that was JaMarcus level bad.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am not sure why,

but it brought me great pleasure to watch he and the Jets offense suck ass.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

For a two reasons

1) I knew Sanchez was way overrated coming out of college and it’s nice to be proved right

2) The Jets have written a mighty big check with their mouths this year and watching them faceplant will be a delight

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yup, you just nailed the reasons right there.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The game made me smile and laugh several times at them. :) :) :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know how HAPPY

I was that the Jets LOST? and played stats-wise WORSE that we did? LOLOLOLL

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 15, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noon

You missed your calling. You should have been a sportswriter. Really. I like your style.

by rightnasty on Sep 15, 2010 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm telling you guys, don't underestimate Sam Bradford.

Also Laurent Robinson, according to a few ram’s fans during WK 3 of the pre-season, were saying that he looked to be better than Avery( i think they said due to him being quicker). Mark Clayton is still very good, disciplined, and smart who also has great hands and route running.

I think we WILL be good against there passing game, but if Sam happens to be completing passes left and right, I also wouldn’t be totally surprised. He is good.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

i know we're expecting a win, but..

If all we can muster is a 3pt win, then ill be alil disappointed.

I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 15, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been a Bradford skeptic

but I watched him last week against AZ, and he looks to have the goods. He’s going to make mistakes, hell Peyton Manning lead the league in picks as a rookie. Bradford will be much tougher late in the season, but he doesn’t seem to get rattled. I’ll bet Wimbley gets to him twice, and once each by Shaugnessey, Houston, and Scott…just a hunch. Maybe T. Kelly notches one, too. I really like our DL against their OL right now…

we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!

by transparent58 on Sep 15, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tell you what

The pats in the 3rd pre-season was ALL over Bradford, but we just couldn’t GET HIM. We brought pressure, but he either made a move to get more time, or IMMEDIATELY threw it to a guy who was open. Bradford exploited our blitzes that game.

I think that even if we get to him once or twice, he’ll adjust, and find a way to stop from getting sacked. He’s very QB smart.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha Patguy!

You have good reasons to be fearful of Bradford after that beat down he gave your defense!

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

The thing was is that we were trying out a 3 safety defense. Mostly because Bodden was injured somehwere around that day.

It was mostly coverage miscues, but they way Bradford was handling himself in the pocket, the confidence in his throws, the accuracy in them(except one), and his decision making were blowing me away.

He looked WAY too in control. I watched highlights of the other games the rams were playing*the ones where Bradford came in), and Bradford still looked very good. It wasn’t just our defense that game sucking, but bradford was showing off his best peyton manning impressions as well.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need this win

I’m sick of this shit, over on nfl.com the Rams fans are talking shit the raiders gotta win this game.

by DK209 on Sep 15, 2010 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

fans always talk shit on nfl.com

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know but every person on there acts like were the worst team in the league

by DK209 on Sep 15, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

I just hope they haven't jumped the gun too much on starting Veldheer at Center

Seems like on the road Satele should have started and Veldheer could have continued to study up at Left Tackle. I’m not sure he’s ready to be a starting left tackle, but I’m sure Henderson is not there either. IMO Satele is serviceable at Center until we can find a better solution, and as good as I think Veldheer can be, I worry that displacing him there may lead to taking a step back for him and the team if that’s not where he will ultimately be.

Is it basketball season yet?

by S Jay Bruin on Sep 15, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Veldheer should get two more starts at center, at least

First, start Sunday so he can get some more experience against a less-than-fearsome interior line.

Second, starting against Arizona’s 3-4 will let us know if he can handle the big nose tackles.

I think 3 games worth of work will let us know if the experiment is moving toward success or should be discontinued.

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I like what I have seen of Veld.

Don’t get me wrong he had his obvious mistakes, but he looks good just on pure ability. The things he struggled with I fully expect to improve and improve quickly in a much friendlier situation this weekend.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Kamerion Wimbley is the truth

by Raybin on Sep 15, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

S Jay brings up a good point though

he may be of more value starting at LT as it is looking more and more like Satele>Henderson.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

He'll be facing another tough test.

The DL of the rams is good.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but still...much better than the situation last week.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

we shall see.

Facing BIG Henderson will be tough.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 15, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better than facing 70,000 raving maniacs!

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 15, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, much rather see him at center in a home game

Than in a road opener at Tennessee. He’ll need a few games to get settled down in a new position—I expect he’ll improve game by game, but we’ll see.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 15, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF!!!!!!!!! Have I been taking crazy pills for the past month?

I have been saying since this farce started that Satele start at center and let Veldheer take his licks at LT. He is lighter than Henderson so he should be much more fleet of foot. Why does it take an ass-kicking for everyone else on this site to come to the side of common sense?

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Sep 16, 2010 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

You probably did, and you are looking to be right on

And although I was concerned about it at the time, I kind of used a wait and see attitude and deferred to the coaches on it. I’ve been saying for a while though that I don’t like moving offensive linemen around, it’s almost like we employ a jack of all trades, master of none approach to building the line. It becomes a problem that we just can’t develop anyone into a decent starter. Just because the 2 rookies have the talent to be versatle doesn’t mean the should be used that way if it ultimately hurts their development.

Is it basketball season yet?

by S Jay Bruin on Sep 16, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes ,much better than last week's situation.......

So we better kick ass and take names later! This is a must win for the team’s sake and our sake too. All the hype and hope hit this weekend, and a loss will be devastating.
The Rams are an improved team for sure, as I watched their game last week you could just tell the intensity and skill levels were greater than we’ve seen in the past. I’m hoping for a steady, CONSISTANT effort with sustained drives that lead to scores. I want to see that “bend don’t break” D we saw in the preseason, and the same sack production. This is the week we find out if our hopes and hype are real. If Campbell stutters…. JUST SAY BRUCE! R.F.F.R.

by Wyoraider on Sep 15, 2010 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Raiders Forever Forever Raiders.

Are you a biker?… Cus that would be sick.

by bigpimpin on Sep 15, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

More concerned with O then D....

I believe we stack up good D wise against there O.

But It’s our O that makes me scratch my head. Aside from the horrible OL play, I was questioning some of the play calling. Knowing our protection isn’t any good, we should have used more 3 steps to negate the rush and at least get some yardage instead of a sack or incomplete pass. But I do agree JC needs to be more animated and show some kind of intensity out there, I like that he’s composed and professional and disciplined, but this is the Raiders! They should sit him down and make him watch film of Rich Gannon, maybe he’ll get the idea. I’ll give him a couple more games, but If he producing, I’m all open to Grads. I know he got the heart.

Def gotta woop on the Lambs this weekend tho! This one is more personal, as I have some Lamb Fam.

LETS GO RAAAAIIIDEERRRRRSSSS!!!!

Raiders 24 – Rams 10

by RaiderDevastate1 on Sep 15, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

This is a scary thought:

Per Jerry McDonald: Cable is now 9-20 as the Raiders head coach, and 11 of those losses have been by at least 18 points

That should make for a pretty hot seat.

Is it basketball season yet?

by S Jay Bruin on Sep 15, 2010 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Well........ Nobody else wants the job.

That in itself is sleazy job security in the first place. Yes, i agree he has to go at least 8-8 to keep his job.

by Wyoraider on Sep 15, 2010 7:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey I want the job. I think he makes about what...say $800k at least?

I would be kicked around for half a year and I don’t have a .290 winning percentage in college so I should be more than qualified. Hell I can run laps with the players and not look like a shitbag doing it. Anybody can be head coach for the Oakland Raiders as long as you know how to be a fly on the wall and a kiss-ass behind closed doors.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Sep 16, 2010 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

You got my vote

Any of you do. But the condition is that the Raiderettes make more public appearances.

by rightnasty on Sep 16, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Done.

I would throw in a flash and grab for meet and greets if the girls are down with it.

Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

by TAW on Sep 17, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither team is very good

I’ve been reading message boards, and Rams fans are saying things like – we have to beat them – they’re the freaking Raiders.

The Raiders are saying the same thing about the Rams. I think it should be a good game. Whoever gets the breaks will win. The homer in me likes the Rams. Oakland is a tough place to play when they have a full stadium…

by Toddius on Sep 18, 2010 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

That's as diplomatic a way of putting as possible

Oakland is a tough place to play when they have a full stadium…

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 18, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

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