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2010 Pre-Season Game 4: That HUGE Sucking Sound You Hear Is The 4th Pre-Season Game

Seattle Seahawks at Oakland Raiders, Sep 2, 2010 7:00 PM PDT


Truth be told, I wish that the Northgate Broncos from Walnut Creek were taking the field in the stead of any able bodied Oakland Raiders tonight. In all fairness to the players who are trying to make the team, those on the bubble are really only trying to put some good tape together so that they can get picked up by some other team as a practice squad player or the 53rd player on their roster.

As little as the first three games meant, this one means absolutely NOTHING.

It may be entertaining to a few of us, but, the roster is set. I know, there may be a question about Watkins or Higgins, or Groves or Goethel, but, that is about it.

And duty calls!!! So I will be here, for most of the game...Do you guys want to play a 4th regular season blogging game, like, be the first one to name the player who made the tackle?

If you can't tell, I am extremely bummed over the loss of Campbell and Bush. They truly were/are our brightest offensive hopes this year.

Let me know, Cheers,

Saint

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Bush was a blow but Campbell will be back soon and Grad is as good or better, so no worries, Mate.

Spirals and I will be leaving in 10 minutes. I want to see bodies sacrificed for that moment of glory that lives forever in memory and film. Hope Nick Miller and Travis Goethel live up to my expectations tonight – imo, they have ‘the right stuff’ look for STs to secure the middle on returns and push things outside – that’s where Howard and Boyd will lay the wood … unless Boyd freelances and they get outside on him again. Expect Bruce to tear it up again, he’s a man on fire and doesn’t have much to lose since the deck was stacked. I’m starting to appreciate Michael Y’s Casandra-like pleading about the Defense’s sets – look for continued exploitation against our middle center and middle deep – that seems to be where we are most vulnerable (not necessarily b/c of personnel) because of the structure. SS and MLB are key to the D … and our QB is the key to this O b/c timing / game clock is everything with a line like we’re ‘blessed’ with.
Long live Al!

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 2, 2010 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha ha, looking at the 1st half highlights from the Donkeys game

Tebow fumbles his first snap for a turnover, and then what I believe what his first pass was intercepted in the next series. Love it.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 6:41 PM PDT reply actions  

the interception was his only incompletion.

he’s 12 for 13 for 167 yards.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

just saying.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

he won't get cut. sorry. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

if he SOMEHOW someway gets cut, we should definitely get him.

otherwise, I’d look to Marshaun Lynch. He might get cut.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Silver and black pride tonight.

Hope nobody gets hurt and the Raiders win tonight. Will be watching this one at atdhe.net from a continent afar as will RAIDERSNOMERCY , and hope to see another huge Raiders fan join this site too.

Shout out to BendGod5 and the gents running this outstanding site. Will get BendGod5 to join shortly. He will be a great addition. Have been trying to recruit him here, but no luck yet as he is busy.

I think Campbell will be fine. Wonder who Cable will start at QB tonight?

Cheers to all great Raiders and Raider fans. I dedicate this year, for me personally, to The Assassin! And his pals George Atkinson and Lester ‘The Molester’ Hayes.

GO RAIDERS!

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Oops!

RAIDERSNOMERCY in Georgia I see. My bad.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Any site for the game?

Justin.tv, Veetle, and Atdhe won’t work.

by Dogsoldier on Sep 2, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

channel surfing works.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

channelsurfing.com

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

#31 with an amazing tackle!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 2, 2010 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Touchdown!

Great job Bruce G. and Tonga. 3-1 would be nice psychologically for the Raiders to go into Week One against the Titans. Get the win Raiders!

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Waters

I hope someone picks him up. He seems pretty decent so far.

by Dogsoldier on Sep 2, 2010 7:29 PM PDT reply actions  

TONGA TONGA!!!!

Oops am I late to the party

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Tonga is a LOAD!

You see DHB blocking downfield?

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am wating for my son to get off of BART:

He is an hour late, so I am typing on a dying laptop, and listening to Papa on the Radio

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pulling for him:

Local guy, been through adversity, perfect Raider

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The guy is a beast.

He missed a block early. I’d like to see him open up some holes.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone heard about Walt.

All I got here was he limped off. Hamstring?

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

For whatever it's worth

Seattle has been playing their starting D-line. Their DT’s are decent especially against the run. Campbell is getting pushed around a bit on the runs.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:33 PM PDT reply actions  

I think that Veldheer will start...

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they are holding him out of action tonight.

I think this is a sign pointing to what you just said.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really? Whodathunkit?

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know...it's ok though.

the guy that beat him was a pro bowler…in high school.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet a nice ST play!!?!?!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 7:39 PM PDT reply actions  

TD STILL!

JLH finally caught a TD pass.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 2, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Outstanding protection for Gradkowski on the TD to Higgins. Looking very good. 17-3.

Dumb penalty but that is to be expected in the pre-season. Sure Cable and staff will get that sorted out.

Really liked how Gradkowski showed mobility before throwing the strike to Higgins.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

...and more bad kickoff coverage,

but saved by a penalty. upon replay review, the hold did help spring him.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Slipped in the dirt...

maybe Routt is taking his job.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looked like he slipped on the dirt

After already being a step behind.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

The seahawk guy being interviewed is halarious.

He doesn’t even look like he knows where he is haha

by Dogsoldier on Sep 2, 2010 7:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I say

Put Huff at CB, and put CJ at safety.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 2, 2010 7:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's my analysis:

CJ is better at tackling, and Huff might actually play better man. CJ can now roam the field, not having to worry about being beat, and Huff can get chances to catch the ball more.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 2, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loving Stevie Brown! Outstanding D. Let’s go to the second quarter.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmmmm. Live comments not coming in for me here on these game threads. Not sure why. Am watching the game from near Shanghai at atdhe.net with no problems btw if anyone is having problems at that site.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

OK, I'm ready to see Kyle Boller

Don’t need to see Bruce getting hurt in this game.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 8:04 PM PDT reply actions  

WooHoo! We have a Missile sighting

We’ve been waiting for that one

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 8:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha Forsett wanted nothing to do with the next pass

The ball came to his hands and he said “No Thank you”

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Mitchell ready

for the season.

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 2, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

With our offensive line

They’ll both play this year, guaranteed.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Could not agree more. Gotta start Gradkowski against Tennessee despite a lousy second half all around. Didn’t like the lack of movement on their final drive of the first half, but I think Cable just wanted to get everyone off the field and injury-free.

Gradkowski is simply a better QB in every way at this point in his career than Campbell imo. Hope they go with him, and see how he does. If he stinks then bring in Campbell fast.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear defense

Please tackle guys, OK?

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Now would be a great time for Howard to show

the coaches why they should keep him

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Live comments just not coming thru to me here at all. Have tried everything. Any advice Raymond?

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Have never had problems at the site where my fave hockey squad plays. This is just weird.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Live near Shanghai but my computer is good. Never a problem before. Don’t get it at all. Have yet to see a live comment come up. Keep trying though.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Utah over #15 Pitt at Rice-Eccles is much of an upset

But would it be the first ranked team to lose this year?

The FairWeather Channel - Sports Comics and Bandwagon Forecast

by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

dam they beat pitt??

hopefully my notre dame beat um

by paperboye on Sep 2, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaahhhh. Got it. Students of mine at my EFL school here were recently revamping my computer. Must have done something to freak up live commentary coming thru at SB Nation sites. Will have to check all that. Thank you Jagger Jaw.

by Pyramid Power on Sep 2, 2010 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Its Miller Time

I've been bleeding Silver and Black for 40 years its time they get back to playing Raider's football

by old raiderdude on Sep 2, 2010 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Plenty of depth at QB

Strange to say that for this Raider squad.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

That was a nasty sack

Too bad it involved hitting him up high so we got the 15-yard penalty.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Stevie Brown and Jeremy Ware deserve to make this team

CJ is complete garbage now. How on Earth can he have regressed to the point that STANFORD ROUTT is better option? Yikes. Breaking in three rookie DBs is kinda scary, but seriously, how can you possibly cut lil’ Walter, Stevie or Ware? They’ve played their asses off and deserve the chance to contribute. Figurs made the decision to cut his ass even easier tonight.

by Mike Garza on Sep 2, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Looking

Forward to playing the gooey, soft NFC West.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I really thought kick coverage would be much improved this year.

It seemed like they brought in the right people. Son of Fassell should start filling out unemployment forms now.

Thought is cheap.

by Rich Langford on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Special teams play = F

In terms of covering kicks.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 9:34 PM PDT reply actions  

be realistic lol

we are not a superbowl caliber team
i didnt say we will only win 2 games, probly more like 6-7
that doesnt make us a good team

by paperboye on Sep 2, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

someones drinking too much kool-aid lol

every year we think we are a 8-8 team
its hard to be optimistic

by paperboye on Sep 2, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, ok paper... we do have the same guys from last year. We have not improved at all.

When will we get rid of that fat QB? Tells me you don’t know whats been going on around here. Even Nnamdi feels a different vibe. Good luck with your blind prediction.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Sep 2, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

im not saying we havent improved!!!

im pretty sure 6-7 wins is more than 5 lol

by paperboye on Sep 2, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Winning preseason game #4 is overrated

Just don’t get hurt, and put in Colt Brennan already!

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Our 4th down push on QB sneaks has been good all game

Of course, we may lose a QB with way the RBs are slamming into his back to push him forward, but it’s working.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Any injury updates?

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't be a douche Carroll

And kick a field goal to tie. You’re not at USC anymore man.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Injury updates?

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

JP Lossman

Is no Colt Brennan.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Sep 2, 2010 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Veldheer play?

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

No

Looks like he’s a starter

by duballers23 on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morris came in at center

I haven’t heard of Veldheer coming in elsewhere. Campbell played though.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

i believe a saw a false start penalty on veldheer

im not sure but you never know
he was probly playing LT

by paperboye on Sep 2, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw Bush's cast and it doesn't look as bad as it could have been:

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Yay, we barely beat a crappy team

But 3-1 pre-season at least gives us something to feel good about going into the season.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Like I said in the beginning:

A meaningless game, BUT, atleast the Raiders came out on top.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What can we take away from this game?

We have a very good backup qb and a very solid 3rd stringer.
Veldheer will likely start at center because he did not play, and it wasn’t due to injury.
John Henderson didn’t play, which means he’ll probably make the roster.
Kicking coverage needs to work out the kinks.
Bennet will probably do the job as the backup if Bush is going to miss some time.
Rookie DB’s are very talented and should get some significant playing time this year.
Chris Johnson will probably be demoted to 3rd or 4th on the depth chart.
Stanford Routt will start.

by duballers23 on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 PM PDT reply actions  

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