This Winning Thing Is Neat
Hey guys. Isn't today great? Just another wonderful Monday. Now that my weekend is over, I can't wait to see what life has in store for me this week. Hey, look at that, there's a bluebird on my shoulder.
Life is better after a Raiders victory. I look forward to watching the NFL Network and ESPN. I can't wait to look at various web sites that discuss football and of course, I went over to Turf Show Times to enjoy the lament of our victims and let me tell you--their tears taste like honey.
Before the game, I said if the Raiders didn't win by more than four, I would give up my hope for the season. Can I take that back? While the Raiders only won by two, they did everything else I wanted them to accomplish. In short, I wanted to see them beat up the Rams.
And the Raiders ended up landing hay-makers like Mike Tyson and I'm not talking Tyson vs. Holyfield, Tyson, I'm talking Tyson vs. Desiree Washington, Tyson. The defense swarmed to the ball. The D-line got great penetration. Special Teams were hitting and not missing tackles. The offensive line got a good push on running plays. The Raiders ball carriers took the hits to the defense. McFadden especially, but also the WR's and Zach Miller after catching the ball.
The stats reflect this more than the score. The Raiders won in virtually every statistical category:
25 first downs to 16, 41 percent to 20 on third down conversions, 173 yards rushing to 75, 231 yards passing to 135, 3 sacks to 2, 36:49 time of possesion to 23:11. Look at those yards! That's right 404 yards! That is the first time the Raiders have gone over 400 yards since October 23...2005!
It was far from a perfect performance, but it was more than enough to keep my hope rolling. After all, for me this season is as much about watching those seeds of hope start to blossom as it is wins and losses.
The Post Game Awards:
The Snoopy Dancing Sticker Awards:
- Bruce Gradkowski: There'll be plenty more on this. From everyone, I imagine. I plan on doing a more in-depth look at the QB comparison a little later in the week. In the meantime, dancing snoopy for you!
- Cooper Carlisle: Carlisle's performance in itself probably wasn't worthy of this elite sticker, but given the fact that, I, you, him, her, that monkey and his flying fesces has bashed this guy--I think he deserves the highest honor. I am going to back off Coop. Most of the day he was lined up against Fred Robbins. Robbins is a beast and Cooper neutralized him. He got off to an auspicious start. On a 3rd and 1 play in the first quarter, Robbins blew him up and stuff McFadden. On the next play Seabass missed the field goal. After that though, Coop was a rock.
- Nnamdi Asomugha: I don't think a team has thrown at him yet. Well, the Rams did once and they completed it, but they had to cheat to do it and it got called back when Nnam was picked and he was still almost in position. All hail....
- Stanford Routt: I hereby nominate Routt for the Most Improved Player Ever Award. Bigger tests lay ahead for Routt, but he is exceeding expectations. He had an illegal contact early then gave up a short out for a first on 3rd down early, but after that he was a shutdown corner. His INT was huge and he played it well.
- Daniel Loper: For a guy most people thought wasn't even going to make the team, he did a hell of a job. He was no where near dominant, but he was servicable. I am glad to have him as a backup. Now let's hope he doesn't have to play next week, but I bet he does.
- The Defensive Tackles: They kicked ass and they did it without Richard Seymour. Henderson looked like everything we'd hope he'd be, Des Bryant was solid. Jay Alford adds incredible depth. Tommy Kelly...TK had a couple of penalties, the personal foul could have been a killer and I have no idea what it was for, but he was dominant. The Rams made no progress running his way. This was a Rams team whose interior offensive line is supposed to be a strength.
- Darren McFadden: He looked elite. In a world where most people had conceded McFadden was not an every down back, the most impressive thing to me was how he finished this game. 30 carries and he was laying the lumber in the fourth quarter.
- Shane Lechler: Typical day at the office for Shane. But Lechler's Awesomeness was highlighted by the Rams punter's suckiness. He sucks so bad that he was almost great, as his punts were landing laughably short they were almost bouncing off of Raiders blockers. In fact one did. Luckily JLH grabbed. We love you Shane!
Smiley Face Sticker Awards:
- The Defensive Ends: This group was led by LaMarr Houston. The guy is relentless chasing the QB. He is not getting pushed anywhere on run plays. Trevor Scott brought some good QB pressure. I would like to see more from Shaughnessy, but he gets a pass since he didn't get pancaked on any run plays.
- Thomas Howard: The guy has a limited role as the nickel backer. It is a role he seems perfectly suited for. What impresses me most with Howard though is his attitude. It would've been easy for him to pout and give up on this team, but he is playing with passion and intensity.
- The FB's: Marcel Reece hasn't had the big plays he did in the pre-season, but he is picking up his blocks. A rapid improvement for this converted WR. Rock Cartwright also saw some FB time and had a great block pick-up in the fourth quarter freeing Darren McFadden for a key first down run.
- Darrius Heyward-Bey: Welcome to the NFL DHB. Bey looked great after catching the ball. He is strong and hard to bring down. To become elite he needs to keep improving on catching the ball with his hands, but damn...he is light years ahead of last year
- Louis Murphy: Typical Murph. Good routes and great passion, intensity and clutchiness.
- Play Calling: I liked it on both sides of the ball. They rattled Sam Bradford early with some blitzes then allowed the D-line to get pressure. Offensively, the play calling looked a lot better with Grad in. But I thought it was a good mix of run/pass and short/long. I loved the little pitch outs to McFadden. We've wanted to see him running out wide and we finally got it.
Mr. Yuck Sticker Awards:
- Kickoff return blocking still is nonexistent.
- Sebastian Janikowski: I love Seabass. There is not another kicker I'd rather have. It is because of his high expectations that he is on this list. His missed field goal attempt was off the infield dirt, but he is too good to miss any kick inside 50.
- Screen Passes: The weapon that looked so effective in the pre-season has been horrible in the regular season.
- Redzone offense: Remember that Zach Miller guy? When you get close to the endzone, throw it to him.
- Nnam on the right side of the field: Move him around...please. Next week, maybe?
Items Worth Watching:
- Left Tackle Rotation: Interesting concept. Veldheer had a rough outing. He had a couple of penalities and got burned for a sack/fumble. Veld shows promise and he looks particularly strong on the move in run blocking. Not to be outdone, Mario Henderson got burned for a sack/fumble, although it was not quite as glaring as Veldheer's. Overall, Henderson was better, but I am all for Veld making this his position.
- One of the things that fascinates me about football is the chain of events. Things are connected and little miscues or breaks can turn into huge game changers. A good example of this: Zach Miller dropped a beautifully thrown ball by Gradkowski on a designed roll-out. Miller makes that catch 99 times out of 100. Had he caught it, it would've been a first down and the Raiders would be primed to go in for a TD and would've been in Seabass chip shot range for a game icing FG. Instead he dropped it. The next play, Veld jumps offsides. The next play, Grad throws a pick.
- Rolando McClain: Let's see, what did Death Ro do? I don't remember seeing him. Oh yeah, that's right, he was the guy doing the Hulk Hogan impression and body slamming people. I admit that got me out of my seat. I also admit that was a stupid play. I have seen the sentiment that he was making a statement, but Ro, if you want to make a statement, do it with a legal hit. He had Amendola lined up dead to rights, but Amendola kinda spun away from the big blow. Had the Raiders lost, that would be one of the things we were pointing too. Since they won, I'll say, that was pretty fucking awesome. Just no more fourth quarter personal fouls please.
- Other than that, Rolando had an up and down day. He struggled on the Rams first TD drive. He took a bad angle on Steven Jackson's 23-yard catch and run and then missed with a weak arm tackle. Before that, he took missed filling the hole on a Jackson run that netted a first down. He then bit on the play action, which opened up the middle throwing lane for an easy TD pass. McClain seemed to get better as the game went and gave solid run support and pass coverage. He seems to be on track.
- Danny Amendola: I have to give this guy a shout out. On the same play he took a big hit and then a body slam from Ro. Not only did he just bounce right back up, but he made the catch on the very next play. Amendola, you can be my wingman anytime.
- Safety Play: It was much improved this game, but then again the Rams don't throw deep...ever. The Raiders spent much of the day with eight men in the box. Huff and Branch looked good tackling. Tyvon makes me nervous in coverage. While he was right there with Clayton on the second TD catch, he was a fraction of a second late. He makes me nervous going against teams with more of a deep passing attack.
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Ro played well
Except for 2-3 plays, the guy has been a leader in the huddle so far and I always see him in on tackles at the LOS.
But DMC excites me the most, FINALLY he shows he can truly be a boss
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It was a tough decision
I went with the run D. I gave them the nod over DMC, because DMC was so impressive last week. His 30 carries took it to another level, but he had already raised his expectations.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
For me its DHB.
We know McFadden can be good. We Know Grad can run the offense. What we didnt know was if DHB would ever develop. This was a big step forward.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
You know, I’m giving Ro a pass for that tackle. It’s the NFL, what was he supposed to do? Set him down gently? No. He slung that fucker clear over his head ‘cause that’s what we do!
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
‘cause that’s what we do!
I love it.
Still, I wish he would’ve lit him up with the initial hit, like Ray Lewis did to that Jets WR in Week One. Since the Raiders won, I love the nastiness it displayed.
Would you have felt differently, if the Raiders had lost? Also, has Ro done anything to change your expectations for him?
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s playing better than I thought he was. The hit showed me that he can be a hard hitting mean son of a bitch. Which is exectly what I look for in a MLB. But, his pass defense is still very suspect. Then again, it’s only Week 2 in his rookie year.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
I think it made a point.
Did you see Jackson with Ro bearing down on him an a screen pass a little while later? Jackson saw him coming and looked like he wanted no part of that play.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Had to give it to the run D
As blinded as I am by #5 and his greatness and as relieved/excited as I am to see both DMac and DHB blossom into what we believed they would be, we’ve lacked run defense for YEARS. We finally have some fire in the most important part of the field, and with Tim Hightower and Arian Foster awaiting us these next two weeks, it couldn’t have come at a better time.
As for McClain, that 15 yards was well worth it.
by Raider Since Schroeder on Sep 20, 2010 3:40 PM PDT reply actions
I am with you.
I am surprised how little support the run D is getting in this poll.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, noontide, winning is very cool
That Rams team was tough; I’ll take nothing away from them. I’m giving Rolando a break on that one. That’s what it looks like when a huge guy like Ro tackles a little guy like Amendola and Ro needs to pull him down with a suplex style wrestling move. I’m not surprised it gets called in today’s game. If I’m his coach, I don’t tell him to change a thing.
I’ve backed DHB all along! We KNEW he was a developmental guy, and while his high pick comes with very high expectations, I’ll keep most of them for when they’re appropriate. He’s a strong, young, young guy! Watch his press conference following the game—he looks like a little kid! Not in stature when he’s suited up, and just think how good he’ll be as he becomes a real NFL man! I almost cried when we didn’t take Crabtree, but have come to love that we got DHB instead of Gucci boy holdout, and stand by that.
Thomas Howard: The guy has a limited role as the nickel backer. It is a role he seems perfectly suited for. What impresses me most with Howard though is his attitude. It would’ve been easy for him to pout and give up on this team, but he is playing with passion and intensity.
and there were those among you who said trade him! I told you all we’d have a time and place for Howard, and that he’d step up to the plate when that time and place called for him to do so… Nuff said.
I love how we’re utilizing the strengths of our guys on defense! Tyvon worries me in coverage too, but I suspect when he can focus his game on that aspect, and not cleaning up after the front seven trash like most of his last year, he’ll come around. I’ll be pleased to see a healthy rotation of all our safeties against the right guys in the right situations, and on special teams.
That’s right! Special teams looked special! I knew a lot of that talent we acquired in the offseason would eventually show up. The alarming thing was, Pittsburgh sure made Tennessee look like a different team at home. I’ll leave water under the bridge under the bridge, so long as we keep seeing this team grow.
Arizona is looking like an entirely different team, too, so this is another great chance for a W. Let’s hope we bring it, and establish a road identity again.
Nice writeup, noon, and GOOOO RRRAAAAAIIIIDDDEEERRRRSSSSS
I’ll let DMac show the nation what a beast he is a few more times before I say I told you so…
I’m gonna take it easy on Coop, too, and the O line, since Grads seems able to make them look at least competent. No danger of any pro bowlers happening there, but I’ll take it for now. Grads is a no-brainer for next game, and I think Cable hinted towards that already (according to a JMac tweet, anyways).
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
DMac was my vote
Just haven’t seen that level of play out of this guy. I’ve been frustrated with him being seemingly being taken down to easy in past seasons, but yesterday he was punishing guys. He was bringing it and running hard with every play. As disappointing as he’s been in the past, you could tell there was still something there. I hope this goes a long way to him becoming the elite back he has the potential to be.
The O-Line still stinks, but with Bruce making quick reads and passes the line was able to mask some of their weaknesses, but you have to give it up for their ability to run the ball.
Damn if I’d love to eat my words on this guy, but DHB finally showed he belongs on the field. Much like McFadden, the guy was showing some confidence out there. The guy can be a beast with the ball, if he can bring it in consistantly he might just turn into the real deal. (Keep it going DHB).
The run D was really frustrating in the first half, but they finally started to key on Jackson and shut him down. After that stopping the Rams seems to be much easier. Still need to eliminate some of the mental gaffes, but good showing against a decent run offense (and an elite back). As a Raider fan I loved McClain’s hit, but it could have contributed to blowing the game. I’m glad he made his presense felt, as Rusty said earlier, I think Jackson was a little wary after it. Hopefully more receivers witness McClain’s toughness in the middle when the run in the middle of the field. Overall I want to see them play smarter, while maintaining a level of toughness.
I think the Raiders finally showed how physical they can be and were the better team on the field when it was said and done. Some mistakes down the stretch made a comfy lead into a close game, but thanks the Bruce & co. they made some clutch first downs to get it done.
Special shout out to those of you who have been banging the drum for Gradkowski, as I think I fell into the trap of conventional wisdom with our QB situation. The tape is pretty clear at this point though that Bruce gives us the best chance to win and move the football. Whenever he’s been given a shot, he’s shined. I don’t want to get to high on this win due to the team we beat, but for this team a win is a win and hopefully there will be many more this season.
Is it basketball season yet?
DMC, the DL and Gritkowski top honors in week two.
As for best hit of the day – no question – San Quentin’s hit in the 3rd qtr shook the house, Gilyard needed assistance finding the bench.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
funny how some of us knew this already
even the D likes when Grad is out there, cuz they’re less tired.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Yeah, no doubt mike, plus how Grads moves the chains, it totally gets them amped up, not only the rest time.
The RaiderLaker
yeah, it's not like, oh shit, we're about to get the ball back to our guys
and instead, they play like hell, fired up to get it back in Bruce’s hands, so he can get it to the weapons.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Both TDs were on Branch
1st td – everyone else in the zone is looking at the qb, Zone, branch is looking at the receiver, who fakes outside freezing Branch then cuts inside, td. If he was using the correct technique, could have been a step faster and made it a much closer play. Either way, it was on Branch. Branch, Ro and everyone on that side was respecting the run fake, it still wasn’t on Ro.
2nd td – gets beat on good play by receiver.
What’s with your constant bashing on Tyvon?
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
its not bashing
why isn’t is bashing to blame Ro for a play when it is clearly Tyvon’s fault?
It wasnt TB's fault
IT WASNT HIS ZONE
It’s really that simple
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
his days are numbered
thanks for the detailed writing noontide
Jake I am starting to doubt on him too. He better make a memorable play against the Cards like a pick or
a big tackle, or sack. He can’t just get tackles, we need more. At least we need more Passes defensed by him. If not… then you know the drill.
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McClain had middle coverage
Which is exactly where the pass went, over him. He was sucked in by the play action, and the play went behind him. While Branch aslo has coverage on the play, it is not the same. That play was more on McClain…
It isn’t wrong to call out bad plays, but it is wrong to place blame where it doesn’t belong.
Maybe you don’t like Branch, or something, I don’t know, but while he has had problems, that particular play wasn’t on him.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
take a second look
The WR makes his cut two steps in front of Branch, but that isn’t branch’s guy. Really? because the play finishes in the middle doesn’t make it Ro’s guy.
The WR is split right, in between LCB and LOLB, runs straight at SS, (still seven yards away from Ro), not until the end of the play, is the WR in an area that Ro is in.
You can see from the video on the frst TD, Huff jumps inside to get position, Branch is in the same position with the WR running right at him. Branch doesn’t reposition, then takes too long to react.
Maybe Branch has already learned from his mistake because on the second TD, he is in much better position and actually fights for the ball.
Middle coverage underneatch? Middle coverage deep? In a zone you are supposed to react to what’s in front of you. So if a WR cuts behind the MLB, it is in front of the SS or FS, and they have to react. Middle coverage, but seven yards behind McClain.
Cuts 'behind' the MLB
Because he moved up when he bit on the fake, putting the WR behind him, and well in front of safety help.
McClain was out of position.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
didn't he also put a fake on tyvon?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 22, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay, he was playing ZONE coverage.
But still though, zone coverage for a safety is usually to defend the pass WHEN the WRs or TEs get behind our LBs don;t they?
But according to the TD highlight, it seems Death Ro was supposed to cover the middle.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Who?
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Sbay has a serious vendetta against Tyvon..
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
Or, he believes Tyvon isn't helping us as much as someone else might. It's about winning games. Personal affection
or animosity about an individual should be a secondary consideration.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 20, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Who'd be helping more?
Cause if he’s got a genius trade for a top safety Im down
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
We got Mitchell waiting angrily in the wings
I don’t know if he’d be better or not, but it may be worth a look. Fitzgerald and Breaston may be a bad time to give Mitchell a look though.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
He was almost cut for being bad in coverage
And people want Branch’s head?
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Nobody could have covered Clayton on that 2nd TD - it was perfectly thrown.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 20, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions
And a great catch.
Branch did a good job of reaching in. I think his only chance would’ve been to knock him out of bounds. All that said, Branch’s coverage this year counting preseason and training camp reports worries me.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Christ, his coverage could not be worse than what Branch has given
the first two games. Plus you don’t know that it was his coverage skills that got him cut. Have you seen him get torched like Branch has? I have serious doubts that he’d be an upgrade, but I am getting to the point that I wouldn’t mind giving it a shot.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Branch is very fast and tough, But he's always having to catch up and I'm wondering whether he is smart enough
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 20, 2010 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions
He seems to be regressing in play recognition
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
If we manage to get a lead next week, I'd like to see Stevie Brown play SS. Even if we don't
Mitchell should get more reps. I don’t think, however, that with Branch it has anything to do with lack of effort or motivation it’s something else.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 20, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
You are right about Branch and I am definitely rooting for him.
I don’t think Stevie has ever played SS. Of the rookies, Ware may be better suited for SS.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
And that something else is a zone defense that keeps matching up our SS with their best receiver, two games in a row now. Next week Tyvon will end up covering Fitz because of this bonehead defense, and then we’ll all be having this discussion again. I mean, there’s something wrong when the best CB in the league is not covering the other teams best receiver. If Nnamdi is not on Fitz all game, then Marshall needs to be slapped.
He's guessing out there
play action has been his buggaboo so far.
The long play to Washington he was leaning toward the flat because of Young’s running ability. The first TD for StL he was doing the same thing.
Maybe he’d cover better as a corner, since his problem at this point is knowing when he needs to drop into coverage vs. fly up in run support.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Sep 21, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
So how exactly did DHB perform? How sound was his catching, and route running, and him getting separation?
I voted D-Mac. He became an explosive weapon for our offense. Throughout his couple years here, he was being bashed in for not being the 4th pick for us.
I clap my hands to you DMac. You are making us proud. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
go watch the highlites
or read the stats or watch the replay. If you missed the show to see Brady fail, I’m sorry.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
But i'll give Moss
credit for that one handed catch in the endzone. Glorious.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
It’s what he’s known for.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
I'll give credit to Moss for one thing and one thing only
being a bitch!
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Since Randy has joined the Pats, the Lombardi has been elusive
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Yet
He tied a record for TD catches. People can complain about Moss all they want. We blew it with him.
Not complaining about Moss. Just pointing out a fact.
He wanted out, and he got out. End of story.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I'm complaining about him.
He is a quitter. He quit on the Vikes, he quit on the Raiders. People have felt there were times he quit on the Pats. I got no time or love for athletes like that.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He got fed up with the Raiders
And who can blame him with a loser like Walter trying to throw to him. He didn’t see much of a future in Oakland, and definitely no Super Bowl ring possible. Don’t blame him for that. Blame the guy in the wheel chair.
There is no excuse for not playing as hard as you can.
These guys are professionals for christ sakes. I’ve played sports my entire life, for free, and I have never ever dogged it. I will not excuse or root for someone who does.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed, but as long as he's infecting a rival
I’m happy. Once again, the elusive Lombardi statement.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
We may have blown it but it was a mutual failure.
Moss had that great catch against Revis but how many catches and yards did he have for the game? 2 receptions for 38 yards. That;‘s it. He didn’t give a crap with the Raiders and now that he’s disgruntled because of his contract he doesn’t give a crap with the Pats. His me first attitude will always be an asterisk when talking about the all-time great wide receivers.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
in the second half they did
and in the second half we also shot ourselves in the foot quite a bit, and brady overthrew and underthrew a lot. He kept throwing it to moss, even when he was double covered. Throwing it to the TEs? Nope. Throwing it to welker? Nope. Just moss.
Brady was awful. VERY awful. And our OC only called maybe 3 SCREENS the entire game, against a team(the jets) last year who gave up over 10 yards per screen pass. Horrible coaching, horrible play calling, and horrible play by brady will loose you games.
But I;m over it. We have 14 more games left, and the jets are a good team. I hope the pats will be more consistent in the second half next week.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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Oh, and our defense went back to arm tackling.
we missed quite a bit of tackles that resulted in big gains.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I thought the Pats left at halftime to beat traffic
It’s something for you to worry about. In 2 games your other team has had a substantial lead nearly erased. Tell Belichick to stop playing games like the horseys play their seasons.
"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven
by angelesoterica on Sep 21, 2010 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions
we wish we can.
It’s sickening. No adjustments at half-time, and Brady decides to just throw it up to moss.
Get this: Brady to moss: 2 catches, 10 targets. 2 of those were under and overthrown for INTs.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Pats had no answers in the second half
First half had an entirely different complexion. It’s usually Belichick doing that to another coach. Thinking they’re feeling the departure of some key components and veterans on defense right now, too. When a team is able to neutralize Welker like that, Moss is held to minimal plays, and the short pass to set up the run they play doesn’t happen. They’ll do what they’ve got to do to get it right before season’s end, but the division will probably prove too tough by then.
It’s always fun watching new players emerge on the Pats, tho. Belichick remains one of those guys everyone watches. Did I mention I hate Rex Ryan? Well Ryan outcoached Bill Sunday, and HE SAID HE WOULD WIN. I gotta think Bill will exact revenge next time around. I’m bettin the farm on NE in the next battle.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
welker wasn't playing much in the second half
he jets defense is great, but brady was HORRIBLE in the second half. We are arguing that it’s the worst performance we’ve ever see out of him.
Our play calls:
run on 1st, get two yards
run on 2nd, -1 yards
throw to moss.
every 3rd down was “throw to moss,” instead of “throw to open receiver.” And there were some we were yelling at.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
one game wouldnt define the rest of his career.
we’ll see how he goes next week.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 22, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Would like to know what is with the 2nd half hex with you guys
Keep that foot on the accelerator man.
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by angelesoterica on Sep 23, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't watch two games at once, and if I had to choose, I would choose the on on my TV.
I saw the stats, but the highlights don’t show anything on DHB at all.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
BUT
I did follow the play by play on nfl.com ;)
And I popped up in your game threads every now and then.
Grad was getting A LOT of LONG completions according to nfl.com, and I was al happy faced. :) I don’t remember how many completions he had TO DHB though, and I don’t know how his:
A) Route Running
B) How sound his catching was
C) Separation
That’s something I have to watch, and like I said, I don’t like watching two games at once.
So can you please tell me how he did with those instead of saying:
go watch the highlites
or read the stats or watch the replay. If you missed the show to see Brady fail, I’m sorry.
Being an ass much?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
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well it's not like
Rated-R doesn’t do a great recap after every game too. I just can’t get how ppl dont do any research of any type before asking questions.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Was the game blacked out or something? You, and everyone else here watched the game right?
I read a bit of each quarter that Rated-R did. But it does not tell me about:
A) His route running
B) HOW his hands are when catching the ball(does it look like he’s making easy catches? Does it look like he’s bobbling a bit? Any jump catches? Catches over the Middle? Downfield? Underneath?)
C) Separation(how BIG were the separations?)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Still catches with his body too much.
Did make one great catch with his hands but he was breaking tackles for good YAC. Routes looked pretty good. He’s improving for now!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I suppose I expected that he was improving at least.
Body catches? Well it’s a start… but at least he gets the extra yards like you say.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Hopefully you can catch the game somehow.
You won’t believe how much the team energy changed (on both sides of the ball) when Bruce went in. Worth a look-see.
If you see the game against the Cards you can ask questions without drawing Mike’s ire. :-)
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
I don't know if that's possible. lol
but I do watch the play by play.
When I do have time to watch the raiders, some of the sites that I use DO sometimes get choppy. sometimes not.
But regardless, when they are on at a different time, I turn on my computer, put in my headphones to hear, sit down on ma couch, and watch the game.
Other than that, I usually have the nfl.com play by play, and I stop by here on the game threads every now and then to check what’s going on.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I always have my internet feed on, and another random game on tv.
You should do the same Patguy. Show us some love man….
The RaiderLaker
I'll give it a shot, but I have a feeling that trying to watch two games at once will get tiring to me.
I’ll try next week though.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
well drink more redbull
I’ve even listened to raiders, watched whatever N/AFC game is on, and watch another on NFL track. If I can do it, surely a Patriot fan can do it.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
That is merely opinion my good man.
That’s like me saying, if I can be a Raider and Patriot fan, so can you.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 21, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't like energy drinks much
but I will try and watch two games at once(one on TV, and one on Computer. since that’s the only way I could watch both the raiders and pats).
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
that's the beauty of really good sports bars
you’re watching ALL the morning games, and all the afternoon games simultaneously, and at really good ones you can keep an eye on all of them, especially with all the comercial breaks and stuff going on, that you can watch multiple ones at a time.
Of course if your game is on at the moment, then it hold the majority of your focus, and then you have a second, but watch highlights all over.
Some of ‘em have the TVs, but only a few spots are good to see more than one at once. I know you’re not of age yet, but just commenting on that part. I do it at home tho, with one game on in the room and one in the living room and with the DVR :)
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
yea. lol I'm too young for bars. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Not if they serve food.
So long as they do, it’s legal for you to be there with your folks or a guardian that is of legal age. But I do the computer and TV thing a lot myself. lol
What I truly love to do, is watch the games second times, especially if I can from DVR, so I can chart personnels, percentage run/pass, go back and see when WR’s ran bad routes on INTS or if it’s truly the qb’s fault, or the protection failing too soon, etc.
That’s the best part of the games. Watch them once and take ’em in, then go back and watch ’em again when you can pause and go back and really analyze plays. Love that shit.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Don't have DVR, but from what you say
sounds like something I would enjoy much(certainly would keep me busy).
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 24, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I get Season Ticket
So it’s cheaper in the end, rather than paying bar prices for food, and I brew my own beer…
If the Raiders are playing, I watch them on a single screen, but on commercials I go to a six-screen split, and can pick and choose what game I want to listen to while I watch the rest.
Works for me… lol
Failure builds character; success reveals it
and you can watch the games replayed
in that high speed, commercials cut out truncated form. you watch the whole games in an hour. I love to watch the great games over and over, and break down personnel and chart plays and really learn the game. We talk about getting the ticket, and probably will someday, but we can actually walk to this local place, and meet friends, so it works out.
Patguy knows, but my wife is a Patriots fan, so it’s usually there early to watch her games and the morning round, and I stick around for the Raiders games and the afternoon session. I was digging day 1 when they had the ticket for free! I know they hooked some people with that! They need to do that more often!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
pats playing at 1, and raiders at 4:15.
I shall be able to tune in! Yay! :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Sep 21, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
did he wear underroo's? did his breath stank after that big catch? did he use his hand or elbows to get up after being tackles? did he statt sweating during the 1st. quarter or after? jk haha
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by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 20, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions
Routt, a shutdown corner?
I’m pretty sure you’re not smoking anything since you seem like a generic fellow (and I mean that in an unflattering kind of way). It’s good Stanford Routt looked competent against the Rams but they don’t have a lot of threats in their offense. A rookie is going to make rookie throws. Clayton is still new to their team. You are really digging deep if you need something to cheer about. Let’s see how he does against better receivers. We already know he could not handle the Titans guys.
Then there is your obligatory virtual high five shout out which paints noontide as a chiuaua leg humper.
The lack of reading comprehension you just displayed
would make a rebuttal too easy and pointless.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Run defense
I’m still not sure what the run defense did differently in the second half to change things around. We were joking during the first half that Jackson was going to go for 200 yards. It was like a whole different game in the second half on both sides of the ball.
You guys were right about Gradkowski he gets the ball off much quicker than JC, hard to sack when he gets rid of the ball so quickly.
DMC and DHB both looked like first round draft picks. I believe that DHB will be a really good player, he looked strong and fast, like he has been really working at it, trying to get better.
DMC looked like Marcus Allen in his prime, nuff said.
We even got good calls from the refs, it was like backwards day.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 20, 2010 10:39 PM PDT reply actions
I'm stoked that DHB
is waking up, and bringing em down.
McFaddy is looking good, and we’re looking like we know how to use him.
We should look into a more involved quarterback rotation and adjustment strategy going forward.
I say yes and no
I am weary of the blowout bounce back. Plus, isn’t it their home opener?
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by Rich Langford on Sep 20, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, az home opener
I wacthed parts of both az games and derek anderson is garbage…I expect to win.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 21, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
if this woulda been last year
i woulda said grad but iexpect him to lead us when he is he b/c he has shown thats what he does i l love dmac but i expect him to perform b/c not only is he a high draft pick he proved ALTHOUGH it might of been only 1 game he could run in the nfl as a rookie to me dhb did what a wr is suppose to catch a few balls the run d was my choice mainly cuz i thought we might still be feeling the effect of the titans game but the most impressive thing to me was the cable guy makin the half time switch from jc to grad
After rereading your post
5 times to insert proper punctuation so I could understand it, I agree.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
D-Mac
finally living up to his potential this year
time to make another run to the postseason....get it going guys!!
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Run DMC is second in the NFL in rushing ..
I don’t give a damn if it’s the only second game of the season .. When’s the last time we’ve had a RB in the top 5 at any point in the last seven years? This is why DMac got my vote. Gradkowski really does have that spark. It shows on the field. It even made our defense play better.
While Veldheer was beaten a few times, he stuck with his man. He didn’t give up the easy play like we’ve seen Henderson do so many times. I remember seeing Veldheer getting blown up on a play, land on his knees, and still have the stregnth to knock the defender out of the play. Henderson would have simply given up. I think Veldheer needs some time, but he’s shown enough in my opinion to start over Henderson. He looks like he’ll be at least above average one day. And I’ll take above average any day with this line.
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by RaiderCreator5150 on Sep 21, 2010 6:51 AM PDT reply actions
nice - on all fours with this
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 21, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Winning solves everything!!!
It’s funny cause I swear I didn’t have that mich to drink till I got home! Winning sure couldn’t cure my raging hangover! I hope we can steal a win in Arizona!
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by gogomaplata on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
a win is a win is a win
but we barely beat out the worst team in the NFL @ home nonetheless… im trying my hardest not to read into it that much
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If you focus on the 2nd half you'll appreciate that we totally dominated StL.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 21, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions
We sure did
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by gogomaplata on Sep 21, 2010 2:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
DOMINATE?
We scored 13 they scored 7 and we got the ball first to start the 3rd qtr.
We def had the intangible bounce in our step advantage. I dont know if we dominated.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 21, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Our time of possession in the 2nd Half was 22:58 to 7:02. bySt.L. And St.Louis had Zero first downs that weren't through penalties.
The entire 2nd half StL. advance the ball complements of Kelly’s personal foul, a 15 yard penalty in the 3rd Qtr, and Huff’s Pass Interference in the 4th qtr and McClain’s Unnecessary Roughness 15 yarder. Without those blunders St.L would not have moved 10 per possession.
In Bruce We Trust
In Waffle We Trust
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 21, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I was most happy with our coaches
thanks for putting in Super 5 before it was too late ,the whole team rallied around him even the D. I thought we were going to lose with Campbell back there but with Super 5 you feel that the team fights just a little harder. Also it helps the D bigtime when were not going 3 and out .
GO RAIDERS beat AZ and were 2-1 !!!!!
Bongsmoke
KUDOS to mikesd1981 again,old school Nation Man!
1: Just say Bruce! 2: the fact that the Cable guy pulled the switch at halftime won the game for us …..PERIOD! Noon , Mitchell IS in the wings guided by the spirit of MR. Jack Tatum. Sons………..Stevie Brown, YES! rightnasty, you are right Bro, WHY isn’t Nnam covering the other squads best receiver? Noon, Moss. I feel the same way Brother, you NEVER quit on your Club for Stats,glory or “the almighty dollar”. Rusty23- the energy Grad brings? Nuff said Bro!!! And last, but not least. “Number 69 has reported in as an eligible receiver”. When we need it most, it will happen Brothers!Sloppy but tasty win, I’ll take a dozen to go , thank you! R.F.F.R.
When Barnes gets a TD...I will be thinking of you!
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by Rich Langford on Sep 21, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Stevie Brown was just cut, according to Jerrymcd
No word on who Raiders will sign to 53-man roster with opening, but Erik Pears’ locker was still intact Monday. Was waived for Brown move.
less than 5 seconds ago via TweetDeck .
Raiders waive Stevie Brown again. Jonathan Holland as well (was on IR). Brown will probably be back on P-squad.
by Spirals galore on Sep 21, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I get it, we have to have Pears in order to realease him right before a game; this practice brings us good luck
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 21, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn superstitions
If Pears is on the team for 3 days of practice and then is cut before the game, I wonder what he gets paid.
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by Rich Langford on Sep 21, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
All this talk of Tyvon getting torched. Yeah, he probably is, and it probably won’t be stopping anytime soon as long as other teams can keep getting the match ups they like.
i loved the way we came out in the second half a looked like a new team
I dont just mean Bruce. Every aspect of our team looked rejuvanated. I have to give credit to the coaching staff.
Nice to see we are capable of agressive second half adjustments too.
We do need to convert these fg’s into td’s though. This aspect has to change, especially w/ Jano missing a few already.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 21, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions
I highly doubt the
team would have been that rejuvenated had Bruce not been at helm. It seems his attitude is infectious.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

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