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Raiders O-Line: Hard to Gauge



Hello Raiders faithful. After a two week hiatus, the Raiders O-Line series has returned. After a horrible outing versus Tennessee, the O-Line seemed (key word seemed) better. It is after all blocking for the second leading rusher in the NFL Darren McFadden. However it's still giving up too many sacks and taking a little too long to open up those holes.

 

The line is hard to gauge right now with so many different change-ups, on the line and at QB. Plus they haven't gotten consistent levels of competition at to this point, making things harder to figure out. But let's see where the lien stands after the St. Louis game and what it might be in the Cardinals game.

Star-divide

 

Let's start at left tackle, what has been a year-by-year revolving door is now a drive-by-drive revolving door. With the original starter Mario Henderson being shifted in-and-out with the 3rd round wunderkind Jared Veldheer. This has come with varying results.

 

Henderson, inconsistent as ever, will look great one play, then come back with a major pressure give-up. Veldheer is very similar but seems to do better with run blocking, a major weakness of Henderson's. The team needs to pick one of these two and stick with him.

 

Henderson offers more experience and slightly more consistent pass protection, but lack in run blocking and when he does get beat, he gets beat bad. Veldheer is a better run blocker and fights off the rusher as long as he can, even if it just slows that rusher down ever slightly. However, he makes some rookie mistakes and struggles more than Henderson with pass blocking.

 

If I had to pick, I'd pick Veldheer since his problems can be fixed with just more experience. Plus this team has found a good ground game so far, and Veldheer offers more in keeping that going with his physical run blocking and sheer strength. I think the team may very well lean this way soon as well.

 

Daniel Loper stepped up last week to fill in for Gallery and proved himself to be a pretty good backup. He does good things when it comes to opening running lanes, but his pass protection looks resembling of Carlisle (can we pretty please start him at RG and save a couple million?). While Gallery is gone, Loper will prove a good backup.

 

Cooper Carlisle looks like Cooper Carlisle, enough said. I still hope we get Langston Walker moved to this spot.

 

Speaking of Langston, he looked a bit better this week (not a great test but I'll take what i can get). He asserted himself with his run blocking as usual, and seemed quicker to react in pass protection. He still needs to get better though, and quick.

 

Center saw another change. Veldheer's embarrassment last week was quickly addressed with Samson Satele taking the reigns at center. Satele gave you pretty much the same results (except he looked a little more consistent in pass protection), but with better snapping. A welcome change, but center is still an issue.

 

Overall the line still is a weakness and I think is the whole reason we are seeing the QB change. Bruce Gradkowski simply does better with this line than Jason Campbell. The play-calling still has its deep throws, but more as a decoy for Bruce to hit Louis Murphy of Darrius Heyward-Bey on the mid-range slant.

 

Bruce does good things when it comes to getting the pass out quick and dodging the pass rush, we need that with this line. However, we do need Campbell's deep ball as well. The nickel-and-dime passing will only carry us so far.

 

Preview of Next Week:

 

Our line faces another grueling test resembling of Tennessee this week against the Arizona Cardinals. Darnell Dockett and Calais Campbell are tough ends to stop and Arizona adds in some dangerous blitz schemes. But I think Calais Campbell plays right into the hands of Langston Walker.

 

Walker has been facing speedy 4-3 ends and getting toasted, but his 365 pound body against a slower end or backer might prove to be a better matchup for him. Even if he's just chipping the end and moving onto the OLB, it'll be a nice help for Cooper Carlisle I'm sure.

 

Also Samson Satele gets his first 3-4 test of the year against a struggling rookie in Dan Williams. Truthfully, that middle running attack against the middle of the Cardinals defense will be major advantage for Oakland. Oh by the way, Oakland gets its wrecking ball between-the-tackles runner in Michael Bush back.

 

Dockett and Joey Porter will be the biggest threats to this O-Line though. Doesn't matter if it's Veldheer or Henderson in, they'll get beat early and often. However, since those two are a tad slower than those 4-3 ends and backers, Gradkowski may be able to dodge them a little easier. Let's just hope Porter doesn't level Grads.

 

Overall the line should do better than we think, but will still struggle. Luckily the running game and our dastardly screen passes should back off the blitz a bit.

 

Quick-Hit:

 

This week's quick hit is for the job of John Marshall and the defense during the second half of the Rams game. You could point at John Henderson's increased involvement in the game as the key factor in the improved run D. But I am looking more at the adjustment of the linebackers.

 

With less blitzing in the second half, I was puzzled and worried that we were seeing those old vanilla defenses. However, it was secretly a defensive adjustment the likes of which I have craved so long for. Instead of blitzing and overpursuing on the quick cutting Steven Jackson, the backers waited in sort of spy zones to see what was going on.

 

If it was a pass or play action play, they went back into coverage. But if it was a run, they waited for Henderson and the ends to clog up the middle and stretch lanes, forcing Jackson into holes directly in front of the backers. From there the linebackers would just wait to see if Jackson went for their hole and surged through for a big hit, usually with end or additional backer support for the swarm tackle.

 

It was a brilliant tactic on Marshall's part and it was thoroughly executed by the backers and expertly called in by Rolando McClain. I honestly call this the most impressive game of McClain's entire football career. He made the defensive calls and adjustments perfectly, doing his best Ray Lewis impersonation.

 

Games like the St. Louis one are glimpses of what Rolando McClain can do a couple years from now. My the future is bright.

 

Shout-Out:

 

My shout-out goes for Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey. After having the best games of your respective careers I must say, I'm impressed but not yet sold. You two have two keep this up and do this consistently. Darren, this is arguably the year that decides the rest of your NFL career, keep this up so you can stay a productive Raider runner.

 

As for Darrius, people have very short leashes for you, but my leash for you is long. You showed last Sunday what you're capable of. I'd like to see more of this from you as the year goes on, but don't be afraid of bad games. Fearing bad games increases the chances they will happen, and that makes you fear them even more. It's a bad cycle to get stuck in, and I hope you don't. You have a bright future ahead of you, and I'm confident you'll meet the potential you hold.

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O-Line Status?
Great!
2 votes
Good
47 votes
Eh, they're alright for now with Gradkowski
464 votes
Pretty bad
271 votes
We'll see Boller by year's end
58 votes

842 votes | Poll has closed

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I disagree that the line is the whole reason for the quarterback change.

I also think Dan Williams is going to be very good eventually. The Cardinals’ front seven is going to be a good test for this line and our backs to see how they do in pass protection particularly.

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by TAW on Sep 24, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

If Campbell had a better line he’d be the starter no doubt cause then he’d have time to throw that insane deep ball and he’d throw less picks. Campbell’s a QB who makes good plays and few bad ones if he has a good line, Grads is the kind of guy who will always be throwing short quick passes and will occasionally throw bad ones. He’s kind of a gunslinger.

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 24, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gradkowski is a play-maker and is a leader.

Campbell has a decent arm and rarely takes chances so that negates his ability to throw the deep ball. Also he is Jamarcus-lite. He rarely gets in players’ faces and holds those around him as well as himself accountable. Jason Campbell had a lot of games last year where he got good stats in quarters 1-3 and shut down in the 4th or made a bone-head play to lose the game. Gradkowski can win the game if its close whereas the Raiders can win a close game in spite of Campbell being under center. The O-line is only a part of that reason, not the whole reason. Anyone who has watched Redskins games the past few years and Raiders games over the past year can see that.

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by TAW on Sep 25, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be at the game on Sunday representing the 818.

I hope to see Mcfadden take one to the house on this 31st ranked run defense, and McClain body slam Fitzgerald or Breaston.

by 818Raiderguy on Sep 24, 2010 2:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok who started drinking early for Sunday's game?

The people that voted the line “good” are under my medical plan being sent for a CT and MRI scan followed by a thorough examination by a neurosurgeon. Please “good”. Help me God.
I have a feeling I know who 2 of those first 4 votes for “good” belong to. No real surprise.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 24, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I voted good...disclaimer alert

because this is the 3rd leading rushing team in the NFL. That is fantastic. There is no way to grade the run blocking other than good at this point. McFadden has been a beast, but we wouldn’t be able to tell if guys weren’t doing there jobs up front.

Now, pass blocking…that’s another story. I’d grade it in the F supermotherfucking – range. But due to the choices, I had to vote good. I couldn’t vote pretty bad with that run blocking and that has been independent of the QB.

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by Rich Langford on Sep 24, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok

I can live with that rationale but now you have given the other people who are brain dead and/or delusional and think we actually have a good solid line. I will give the line an average for run blocking because I give McBroken an A for using his abilities finally up to expectations. So I will give the running game credit to the runners more than the line blocking.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 24, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rushing total is a bit misleading, IMO

Because much of the yardage seems to be coming less on power-style blocking than plays that allow for the defender to penetrate while deflecting him a bit to the side, almost draw-like. Stretch-type runs also don’t require much more than not getting knocked into the backfield.

I’d say this OL is average at best, and a lot worse than that at times.

LT – As much as Veldheer has struggled at LT, and he has, he may be better than Henderson, who seems to not have any fire at all. That says more about Henderson than about Veldheer.

LG – Loper distinguished himself by not playing poorly, which says more about the rest of the OL play than about him.

C – Satele is a backup. He doesn’t control the LOS, and gets pushed back too much on passing downs, collapsing the pocket from the middle, which is a DC’s dream.

RG – Ugh, don’t get me started about Carlisle.

RT – Walker looked slightly better than the opener, but that is faint praise. That B Campbell isn’t even suited up to take a look at tells of how far the coaching staff sees him from being able to contribute (although that may or may not mean anything with this group).

BENCH – There doesn’t seem to be any help there, Pears the only one that seems to get a call, and he has been more or less useless.

I know, I am down on this group. I admit it, but I really haven’t seen any reason to really NOT be so far. A horrible game, and a game in which they were semi-decent, with only one injury so far doesn’t inspire confidence. When they play at an average level for 3-4 games, then I will say so, and if they don’t, I will continue to say that too.

One way or another, the OL needs a huge infusion of talent this offseason.

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by signcut on Sep 24, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that for sure my friend, the O-Lien is the big offseason issue and there’s no other needs to distract us this year.

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 24, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

also I still hold firm belief that if Carlisle and Walker continue to struggle you’ll see a move like Henderson/Veldheer/Barnes taking over RT with Walker being moved inside to RG. That’s what would be best for this line.

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 24, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the winner of the LT position will be?

Drum roll please.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 24, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

probably Veldheer, he’s more fiery and physical

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol I voted average :P

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 24, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Florida

Oops. I was trying to vote for Bush. Damned hanging chads.

by the red guy on Sep 25, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

great post i pretty much agree

i hope namdi will covering flitzhoweveruspellit and im looking for run dmc to have another great game!

by *PeRo$*Pi*510* on Sep 24, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

The line is below average. Our run blocking has been pretty good. You can’t argue with the numbers thus far. The pass blocking is horrid though. Especially when Campbell was playing, he is a pocket passer and out line doesn’t provide that luxury for him. I think the line will look a whole lot better with Grad in there. His ability to avoid the rush and move within the pocket and get the ball out quickly really help this line out alot.

by Christian Singer on Sep 24, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed, Gradkowski has that west coast scrambling QB style to him and he pulls it off excellently. sadly that’s not the scheme we want to run. Once some O-Line moves are made this offseason we might be able to see the Campbell era truly take off and flourish

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 24, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're making a case for this kid to be an all-time Raider great, by Raider greatness standards.

 He made the defensive calls and adjustments perfectly, doing his best Ray Lewis impersonation.

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by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Sep 24, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not the scheme we want to run?

What you really mean is that’s not the scheme Al Davis wants to run, and we all know what Al’s grand vision of what a passing attack should be…which is a good thing he doesn’t coach anymore. The NFL has moved on from primitive offensive concepts, and so should we. Fortunately Grad has forced us to, is showing us how it should be done, even with no protection at all.

by rightnasty on Sep 24, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha ha sorry for confusion, yes that’s pretty much not what the coaching staff and Davis want to run. I personally love the run heavy west coast passing game. I always have.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Much as I despise the 49ers, can’t help admiring what Bill Walsh did for them.

by rightnasty on Sep 25, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I BELIEVE SMART QUICK DECISIONS

will make or break us this yr the run block has been good but the pass blocking has got to improve if grad only has 2-3 seconds to throw the ball before he whinds up on his ass it’ll only be a matter of time before he ends up hurt so i hope for the most pray for the best………… IN BRUCE WE TRUST!!!!

by papi209 on Sep 24, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I can’t even begin to think that far ahead. I just want to win now, and I think we can. I don’t understand the obsession with the long ball. What is wrong with short to intermediate passes and a solid run game? I think that is what Hue really wants. He will bring that old westcoast style offense back this year, like when Gannon was playing. Bruce can handle that role beautifully I believe.

by Christian Singer on Sep 24, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

That is what scares me, I know Bruce gets the ball out quick, but this line makes some real critical errors from time to time and I’m really worried Grads is going to get blindsided and get hurt. But I do think that this line will get better as the year goes on as long as Bruce can stay healthy

by Christian Singer on Sep 24, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I just had an epiphany

and looked deep into my cracked, smeared and foggy crystal ball and I see the Cardnots throwing continuous blitzes at us to attempt to smash Grad. It will be live by the sword die by the sword for them as they got their asses handed to them last game. I hope Grad has the 6th sense on full alert this game for the LT swarm.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch Mario perform this week. He plays better with Bruce for, at least, a couple of reasons

Grad’s short drops play to Henderson’s strength of not being beat inside. Also, Bruce talks with Henderson one-on-one and it looks like they have rapport. On the other hand, Veldheer has a big upside and will get better and better with more snaps whereas Mario has probably maxed out – unless Grad does some high maintenance work with him which may be a well spent investment.
Bottom line: a rotation is probably the best way to go for the short term.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 24, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

As I said in another post

Bruce has him scared. U know Henderson is not all their and is 20 cards shorts of a full deck in regards to intelligence and probably thinks Bruce will boot his ass over his ears if he gets blind sided within 3 secs of a snap.

When you least expect it there I am waiting below to take you out......if your lucky.

by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 24, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed on both of our Left Tackles. Henderson is a bit more consistent without rookie mistakes, but Veldheer never gives up and is a good run blocker for a left tackle. Once Veldheer gets some more experience and gets eventually better than Henderson, move Mario to RT

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

henderson is one blown play

from gettin some1 seriously hurt jus my opinion silver and black til i die!!

by papi209 on Sep 24, 2010 4:15 PM PDT reply actions  

i wonder if.....

death-ro plans on makin another takle like the one from last week that shit was great it showed attitude from the young rookie and we i believ could use that kinda of attitude wk in and wk out jus with out the penalties but a lil attitude would be a nice addition to this team help give em a lil swagger n personality

by papi209 on Sep 24, 2010 4:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Bruce can win with this line

We need to get back to short quick passes like when we had Gannon. The line now forces them to do that. The short quick passing game is when we are at our best. Gannon showed that, and Bruce has the ability to excel at it.

by duballers23 on Sep 24, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

agreed on that front. Speed isn’t just for deep balls, those quick slants underneath are dynamite with speedy guys like DHB and Murphy

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Campbell..............

Whatever happened to Bruce Campbell? I think with him being the fastest and strongest lineman he should have at least gotten a look at LT. Maybe he can comeback at RG or RT. Hear is my preview of the game vs Cardinals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVGKj4VBPtY

by JSADD on Sep 24, 2010 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Campbell will keep getting developed at RG, looks like they want him to be the eventual replacement for Carlisle

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

How many articles about the same thing are you going to write?

There isn’t that much to it. The OL is crap and that’s it. No need to overanalyze it. Maybe you need a girlfriend?

by Al's Wingman on Sep 24, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

lol

Do you know who i think i'm not

by bojackson34 on Sep 24, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

what the hell dude, I’m currently in my 9th. month of my current relationship. It’s a series of posts, week in and week out on the O-Line and how it looked from my perspective. Next time, think before you actually post and maybe figure out that it’s a series.

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I applaud you, sir, for 9 months. At our age, I don’t know how you do it.

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by JaKe. on Sep 26, 2010 4:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, let's go for personal attacks!

You’re totally out of line.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 25, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty bad

The run blocking is better, but that’s easier than pass blocking. Meanwhile, the pass blocking is almost non-existent.

by rightnasty on Sep 24, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

pass blocking looks good at times, but those are rare times. However, those rare times you’ll see more 33 yard plays to DHB and company

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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's true

My only concern with that is that Grad not throw up any more passes like the one against Pittsburgh last year which looked more like a punt, that Murphy somehow got to before anybody else could. That was way too stressful. God, throw them the short pass, and make them run for the yardage. DHB is supposed to be fast, so let’s see it AFTER he has the ball.

by rightnasty on Sep 25, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

To rightnasty

The 33 yard play to Darrius was a quick three step in pattern almost like a curl and he turned, broke a tackle, made a man miss and turned it into a big play after the catch. This team needs to use more high percentage pass plays like this since Bruce is becoming more and more accurate the more comfortable he is with the system and as good as the run blocking is showing this enough to mask the O-lines poor performance and also keep the chains moving. The Raiders averaged 30 points a game two out of three years under Gruden and Callahan doing this with a lesser running game.

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by TAW on Sep 25, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Been there done that with Robert Gallery, how has that turned out?

2004 Draft, I. Eli Manning 2. Robert Gallery 3. Larry Fitzgerald 4. Philip Rivers
Three potential hall of famers and Gallery.
Decent linemen can be picked up in lower rounds, get skill position players with 1st round picks.

by Oceanside Raider on Sep 24, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Now I want to go chug a 40 of Tanqueray and go puke. That is one sad as fact.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 25, 2010 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dont feel too bad

There’s only 1 ring between all 4. And papa Archie wouldn’t have let Eli come here. Even the Giants players say he’s soft.

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by angelesoterica on Sep 26, 2010 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Still have several years

to see if any more rings are added. Lets just say minus Gimpy Gallery add one of those others……………….. we cannot be worse and most likely better.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 26, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is no team that hasn't whiffed on a plyer in the first round

Gallery was a consensus top pick, with no downside seen. No, he didn’t turn out the way he was expected to.

You mean that scouting isn’t an exact science?

Get out!

/sarcasm

The OL is clearly the weakest part of this team, and to continue to ignore it is to continue in the path that the Raiders have been taking for 7 years: below mediocre, an NFL record for futility.

The game is won and lost in the trenches.

It really is that simple.

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by signcut on Sep 27, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

won’t be next year due to no first round pick, but look for that to be our first pick in the draft when the second round comes around. Every single skill position looks good right now, the line is the only thing we have left to fix. There’s no needs left to distract us

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hue Jackson has shown is his short tenure our skill position players can special if developed.

Being thrown into the fire because of the injuries to Schillens and Javon Walker’s disappearance into the Bermuda Triangle was the best way for our receivers to learn. Next year, O-linemen in the 2nd and 3rd round should be the primary concern. The defense can win if allowed to scheme. McClain will have a year under his belt and should be able to keep the running game in check.

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The valiant never taste of death but once.
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by TAW on Sep 25, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nickle and Dime can only get us so far?

Nickle and Dime gains that Gradowski successfully managed helped our offense move more consistently. Those 7 steps drop down field pass plays killed J. Russell and Campbell because our Offensive Line does not have the blocking skills to keep DL off our QBs.
Those successful nickle and dime passes also opened up running lanes for Macfadden’s 145 rushing yards.
I believe those nickle and dime pass plays helped Gannon and the Raiders to the Superbowl in 2002.
Not too long ago, our offense didn’t have any success at all. JR, the offense and the offensive game plan were one of the worst in the NFL.
I’ll take the success of the nickle and dime gains to help open more holes for our running game and more opportunities down field later on. This is still not the NE, NO or Indy offense we’re looking at here in Oak. A work in Progress.

by anhdazman on Sep 24, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

nickel and diming doesn’t work like it used to. Teams start playing mid-range zones which take longer to read, and with this line you’re QB will be sacked or pressured into bad throws, hence why Gradkowski throws a pick pretty much every game.

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the off-season..................

was great except one thing the Raiders never addressed the O-line . There were a lot of free agents that could of helped alot but we never signed any of them . I believe that games are mostly won in the trenches and if your O & D lines control the line of scrimmage then the rest will come easy . Lets hope that the Raider run game excels this week and the run D shuts down the Cards nifty little runners. I am really looking forward to 2-1 that would be awesome!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

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by BonGSmoKe on Sep 25, 2010 4:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep

And we were all wanting some attempt at it but got one draft pick that hopefully turns out with Veldheer.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 25, 2010 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Campbell is now chopped liver? Campbell looks to be our future at RG, the most important position for our running attack. Most of our run plays are directed towards the guards, a mauler like Campbell with Gallery at the other spot makes for some great guys to run behind. Campbell just needs to develop and learn the game more.

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 25, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wont dismiss Bruce Campbell

but he is not projected as the instant insert as we needed at the O line. He could be good/great/or a wash. Time will tell but he is a developmental pick at the 4th round.

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by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Sep 25, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

With Gallery hurt, we discovered Daniel Loper is a good lineman. Soup didn't have a single snap against ST.L

and was only used on STs. I’m concerned that despite his superhuman physical gifts, BC isn’t “getting it” – the mental part. So, if our only current option at RG has been Carlisle then that’s just not satisfactory whatsoever. Therefore, as soon as Gallery can play again, I’m in favor of having Daniel Loper start at RG. Loper may be our most consistently decent lineman – based on his game last week 2n Qtr and the entire 2nd Half.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 25, 2010 8:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

Loper has shown alot more than I thought he had at all. Admittedly I died a little inside when he first took the field.

by the red guy on Sep 25, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s only 2 games into the season, I wouldn’t sweat on Bruce Campbell just yet. It could be a whole year or two before we actually see him starting.

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by JaKe. on Sep 26, 2010 4:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sweating about this season, what we do to make the pass protection better NOW. Our line seems okay, though, when

running the ball, even Carlisle – unless it’s a straight dive to his gaps.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 26, 2010 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

And Campbell hasn't gotten any snaps at RG - he's only played on STs so far. So, that tells me he's not getting it

because G is easier than either T or C. It’s true that Soup was converted from T … I hope he enters the rotation soon.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 26, 2010 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

As do I, but I’m willing to give him time to learn. He’s also incredibly young last I checked, 20-21. So with his physical abilities and time to learn, he can be a Pro Bowler and anchor for this line for years to come.

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by JaKe. on Sep 26, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

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