Lance Kiffin is Looking Like a Genius in Hindsight
Lance Kiffin, as he is known to Al Davis, made a correct judgement call on Jamarcus Russell being a slouch and not wanting to draft him. He also wanted to replace Rob Ryan as defensive coordinator and he thought Mario Henderson was outmatched as an NFL left tackle. There's a lot more Lance was correct about during his turbulent tenure as head coach of the Raiders but this is just what comes to mind right now.
Al Davis is swallowing hard on his pride as these truths stare him in the face. I'm sure he tries to shrug it off and move forward, except for the fact that he keeps tripping over his own feet. Tom Cable is a legitimate head coach or is he just warming the seat for the next guy while Al tries to make up his mind who he really wants to coach the team?
The recent past of Lane Kiffin still lingers like a stain on Al's Raider image because just about everything Kiffin complained about is being proven true before our eyes (and Al's). These things will live on as legacy as the 3 Raiders super bowls of bygone eras mean less and less with each passing year. You're only as good as your next game so for a crumbling dynasty, Al is way past due to make amends. How is that going to be done with an inferior offensive line in 2010? You can't rely on your defense to open holes for your running game or protect the QB. You can only throw so many screen passes.
It's a sad situation Al has made for himself and he only has himself to blame.
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I cant write what i want to out of respect to the people who run this great site
but F&%K YOU! Al Davis is the father if the Raiders and there wouldn’t be a Raider organisation if it wasn’t for Mr Davis so basically if you hate Al you hate everything the Raider organisation stands for so go and support the never won shit Dead Batteries.
the recent past of Bitchass Kiffin proves Al right in every sense. Kiffin can say what ever he wants and people will believe him because Al will not respond cos he is above that.
We have been to an AFC title game every decade since the 70’s and took us to a conference championship in 2003 which in my opinion makes us more successful in the 2000’s than every single team that didn’t win shit and didnt go to the superbowl.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
by Ozraider on Sep 5, 2010 9:20 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
we have made significant strides this off-season on the roster so who are you giving the credit for that?
This post would have been much more relevant months ago – asinine.
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
Wow, drop the pride stick
Kiffin was right about many things here. Your saying that Kiffin was wrong with Russell and Ryan?

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
not saying he was wrong about those specifics at all but organisations fuck up all the time it's not just us
however I think the Al hate has gone WAYYYYYY too far.
there are a shitload of teams that would kill for an AFC title in the 2000’s, MANY teams fuck up on draft picks all the fucking times – the Charges are the pretty boys of our division RYAN LEAF ANYONE? and they didnt make no superbowl last decade did they??? in fact they choked in the playoffs every year!
The Raiders are ALL OR NOTHING and we made a superbowl how much do you think the Chiefs or Bolts would have given to make a superbowl?? bottom line is they aint done shit yet somehow Mr Davis gets treated like a worse owner than the FUCKING FORDS!!!! let alone anyone in our division!
NO OWNER IS MORE COMMITTED TO WINNING THAN MR DAVIS!
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
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i dont need no gimmick pix
"We want to win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it, even my organization deserves it. You have to win and you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. That's our passion here." - Al Davis
Hey Oz
Al Davis has done a lot of harm to the Raiders over the past 10 years. This is a undeniable fact. If he were a GM he would have been fired a loooooooong time ago.
Even in the Gruden/ Gannon era, Gannon confirmed that Al was a hinderance to their success.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
He is the reason for our struggles, the sole reason. Everything, EVERYTHING runs through him. Remember the billboard calling him out? I dont care if he’s super committed if he’s sucking at it. I could be super committed to being a dancer but that doesn’t mean I could do it. The game is passing him by day by day
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Not quite sure about it.
He’s obstinate and ego-driven, I suspect from signs; but the info is sparse, so all I’, left with is speculation. It seems to me that bill boards are not a smart idea – if you want to influence Al, don’t do it by eliciting publicity, which he relishes. Plus, I am not sure of the motivation behind the billboard initiative – it seemed to me like a pitch for scholarship funding (I talked with one of the two guys).
I am all for objective reasoning and analysis. Extremes make me wanna puke. That said, bring on extreme opinions, just be ready to discuss them with doubters.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
the boy who cried wolf
Actually AD was write about Kiffin being a lying SOB. Who cares if he was right about Russell. No one will trust the words of a lyer.
tenn and usc trust(ed) him
both better jobs than hc of the raiders
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 7, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So..uhm..in hindsight Lane was a genious??? ok ill bite.
He wanted Brady Quinn for christ sakes. He couldnt even beat out Anderson. Oh yea how bout we kick a fucking 70 some odd yard fieldgoal while were at it. Hey look folks, my name is Lane Kiffin and i dont know the fuckin rules in college. GENIOUS!!!! How bout i had a chance to beat Florida but decided to go so damn vanilla that i was coaching to not loose bad instead of win! GENIOUS!!!! You know what..while im at..ill leave a Tennesse so i can go and have my dream job at USC and maybe win a title game my 1st year!..oh wait!!! GENIOUS!!! How bout we agree to never use the word LANE and GENIOUS in the same sentence ever again! EVER!!!!!!!!
How about running Lendale White on 4th and 1 with a lead in the Championship Game?
We know how that turned out.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 6, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually Steve Sarkisian was the play-caller.
Kiffin just had the OC title.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
also, pete carrol
was the one who decided not to punt…. nothingb to do w kiffin
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah im talking bout the game when he was our coach.
When he decided to send Jano out for a half ending 76yarder i believe. After the game was canned.
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 6, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
ohh gotcha
that was a bizarre play. especially because cromartie was in the end zone…..
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That's all fine and good...
But before you do that, how about learning to actually spell genius correctly?
"I came back with an I-Don't-Care attitude. If I had an open shot, I was taking it."
--The Robert Horry
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by The_Power_and_the_Glory_of_Robert_Horry on Sep 6, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
curious
whats w the robert horry stuff?
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, he was a basketball player that happened to stumble upon vast "greatness."
But he is not relevant, he just piggy-backed for some championship rings with the Lakers and Spurs in the NBA. He did contribute with the Lakers especially with some heroic shots but the started being a bench player when he was amassing rings. I think he has 7 or 8 championship rings. I think he basically has more rings than Michael Jordan, but he is not even close to him and his true greatness.
The RaiderLaker
Hey Robert Horry hows this..
Makes more sence for me to learn how to spell it than to just believe i kept mispelling from a brain fart! Thanks for playing!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 6, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
kiffin
didnt want brady. he wanted anyone but jamarcus. he was grasping at straws trying to convince al not to draft jamarcus by “selling” al on other players.
What kiffin actually wanted was to trade out for several picks, so he could put his talents to work (college football evaluator)
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
Shame on you, Al. Where’s the tact? Coming into a Raider forum and posting such a thing out of the blue after Kiffin has been gone for awhile now and bounced from team since then. You could have (and should have) started off by pointing out that criticism of Davis for bad decisions like JaMarcus (and probably Bey) are not the equivalent of “Al Hate”. If you’re going to go through the trouble of making this kind of post, you ought to have listed the positives and negatives of both people.
I’d actually heard it suggested that Kiffin really wanted Calvin Johnson, but since we’ve had Randy Moss on the team and there was nobody to throw it to him, it probably wouldn’t have mattered anyway.
Kiffin wanted to draft Calvin Johnson #1 and Trent Edwards in the 2nd Round
And up until last season when Edwards fell off at the middle and end of the year, I have beef with Al Davis for not doing that. I knew from jump that Jamarcus was gonna be a bust and I thought drafting McFadden was a bad idea as well. The only common sense pick he’s made in the last 7 years was a decision that Cable or the coaching staff made. I highly doubt it was his idea to draft the best football player with the highest IQ available. He was GREAT from 1960-2001, but since then, he’s lost it and has gotten progressively worse since then. Kiffin is a bitch, but one who was DEAD ON in what he wanted to do. We would have been in a much better place had we drafted Johnson and Edwards, I think Trent woulda been pretty good for us.
by Raider Zealot on Sep 6, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
disagree. he seems pretty smart to me.
he parlayed the raider job into the usc job. which is more prestigous than being the hc of many nfl teams (including the raiders).
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I call bullshit.
Upon moving to AL, I let my wife decide who she would root for. After one day at a new job full of Bama fans, she met me at the door with a hearty cry of "WAR EAGLE"
by SandMountainTiger on Sep 6, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I think Kiffin wanted the USC Job.
To be honest, I think Kiffin was on the right track here had he kept his tongue a little bit more in check. But it’s disappointing to see that he’d get what he wants at the expense of others. But had Kiffin stayed here, I really do think things were on the turn around.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
I thought USC WAS a pro job...
Upon moving to AL, I let my wife decide who she would root for. After one day at a new job full of Bama fans, she met me at the door with a hearty cry of "WAR EAGLE"
by SandMountainTiger on Sep 7, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions
.......how does this apply to my comment?
Did I put subliminal messages in there implying it was a pro job? Or what?
I said, let me be clear here. He wanted the USC job, and used the Raiders and Tennessee job to get it.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
I dunno.
USC isn’t really the most picky college. They’ll put up with it. And it’s what he wanted so he wont quit.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Kiffin wasn't a genius...
But he wasn’t all wrong either.
He was right about Russell, as has been shown. He was right about trying to run more than pass, due to both QB and OL deficiencies. He appears to have been right on Henderson, although that is still in the air (the talent is there).
As Kobe Won pointed out, however, he was also wrong about things.
No coach is always right, or always wrong. Nothing new there. But, the decline in the last 7 years can be directly attributed to the corresponding decline in the talent level on the roster during the same period, and there is one, and only one, person that is responsible for that.
Oz, it isn’t heresy to say that Al has screwed the pooch lately, and it isn’t wrong to say that it seems as though he is back to making some of the right moves to improve the team. I have been vocal about what I think has been done wrong, and done right, and will continue to be, and that isn’t because I ‘hate Al’, but because I love the team.
I love the team, and there will be a time when Al is no longer here. Logically, if Al is the Raiders, then the Raiders will cease to exist. I don’t believe that, and I doubt that you really do either, but I’m just guessing.
I’ll be honest and say that most of what I have seen from AW makes me think he’s just a stirrer, if you get my meaning, so if you let him get your goat, it may just be what he’s looking for…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
by signcut on Sep 6, 2010 6:53 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I've been following AW's comments quite closely
and wouldn’t say he’s just a stirrer. He’s a passionate fan, that’s for sure, and he tends to use strong phrases. I agree with Kobe and Signcut though – one should be wary of sweeping generalizations.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Kiffin was right about alot of those choices and its unfair to bite someone's head off for documenting it.
However Kiffin is not a genius and also was kind of a weasal as well. Al was definitely wrong about hiring him and Cable after him. Al never wanted to hire someone who would overshadow him which is why he allowed Gruden to walk for a few draft picks. There was always a sense of jealousy I felt since he always commented on the players and never the job Gruden was doing. It was like he was short-changing the culture change that Gruden created and didn’t like that he was getting so much credit in the media for it. Hence why he undermined the coaching staff changes and fired Willie Shaw just because he wanted to run cover 2 instead of pure man to man and also why he pretty much ran him out of town because he wanted to use more vertical passing plays. This was after the team was setting total points scored records with Gruden’s medium range passing style. I am with signcut and spirals in believing one can question the owner and his many faults and still be a fan. I’ve loved the Raiders since I can remember any about sports and still will long after Al is gone. If you think otherwise than that’s just ignorant.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
Here is a great breakdown on the Gruden Trade:
During the 2001-02 offseason, the Oakland Raiders allowed head coach Jon Gruden to sign with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in exchange for 1st and 2nd round draft picks in 2002, a 1st round pick in 2003 and a 2nd round pick in 2004, plus cash
Read The Entire Article Here (A Must Read)
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 6, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Saint - printed, will read in park ... noontides post moved me to macrofocus so Spirals and I are taking some literature,
a guitar, football and ice chest to green grassy Tennessee-by-the-Bay
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 6, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Tenn by the Bay?
Where is that?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 6, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
North Berkeley
I don’t know the name of the park, but we like it for football practices and speedmington.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
this is yesterdays news....
But Im a sucker for an opportunity to bash Al Davis.
After several people (sarkisian etc) thumbed their noses at the job Kiffin was hired.
One of (if not the )reason he got the job was becuase of his college evaluation skills.
Kiffin begged Al not to draft Jamarcus. Al didnt listen (sound familiar). Kiffin wanted to trade out of the number 1 when Al said no he tried to sell him on Calvin J.
blah blah blah…….I could go on and on “piling on top” of him. But why bother? He owns the team and will run it his way (unfortunately).
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Kiffin had some warm words for JR - how wonderful it was, etc. How do you explain that?
I’ve posted it several times in the past and will look it up again, if you want, because I am very curious how you’d explain it. If Kiffin was so anti-JR, whence the enthusiasm for JR? And if that enthusiasm was lip service – thanks, I hate lips service, so in my book he’d be toast.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This is what I want explained by all people who say Lane Kiffin was against the JR's draft
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/raiders/2007-04-29-jamarcus-sidebar_N.htm
…it was clear Russell views NFL success as his new mission.
“I set my standards very high,” he said firmly.
First-year Raiders coach Lane Kiffin has a similar philosophy, and that’s one of the reasons he clearly is enamored of his new team’s new player.
“There was no doubt in our mind this was the direction we wanted to go,” Kiffin told reporters at the team headquarters. “This is someone who’s coming in here to compete to play. We know from what we’ve seen on film and when we’ve met with him and all the research we’ve done, going back to when he was extremely young, that this is someone who can come in and help us win.”
“This is the right guy for us, and this is the right time,” Kiffin said. “It was perfect. This is what needed to happen for the Raiders right now. This is a great day.”
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet, some who pass as thoughtful on this blog will bring the charge against Al again in 6 months and how Kiffin was dead against it
No matter what the truth … it will be distorted by those Al haters … may God have mercy on their souls.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 6, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That is mere lip service Spirals.
Of course he has to say that, as any hc would/does when asked about their draft picks.
Denying that Jamarcus was Al Davis’ pick and/or Kiifin was NOT against the pick is just wrong. Period.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Please provide link from the time he was hired to the date of the above link
in which he voices his disapproval of the JR hiring. Don’t bring post-factum stuff though – I really want to see what exactly he said at the time. I just read the yahoo archives – pretty much everything he said about the team in 2007 – much criticism of the way he was handling affairs.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
your being silly
a first year hc doesnt speak to the media against the #1 draft pick that their boss (al davis).
However, if your looking for tangible evidence. Cue up the kiffin firing/press conference when Al said the same.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
should say
….that their boss chose"
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
What matters is Kiffin's opinion before the late April draft. He had to have weighted in on JR. So, that's
what will prove what he thought before experiencing the JR experience – which was way too late. My guess is that he was on the bandwagon with 90%+ of the rest of the world.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 6, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
well
we can agree to disagree.
Because its a pretty well known (at least i thought so about 10 minutes ago) fact that Kiffin did not want to draft him.
Anyways, im over it. Its yesterdays news. I dont want to re-live that nightmare. Raiders are looking solid. I’m generally pleased w/ the offseason we’ve had. I have just cause for excitement on the upcoming season. Lets roll the dice and see if we can get a couple breaks and make the playoffs. Go Raiders
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 6, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That may placate some (e.g. me, being of even temper and moderate of spirit) but you et al may have awakened
a researcher unlike any I personally know.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 6, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
make that, "unlike any other I personally know"
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Sep 6, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterday's news..
Which is WHY I wonder as to where the hell did this fanpost appear out of.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 6, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I am not being silly
And Al, in my view, has often come up with outrageous statements against people – always post factum. I now am inclined to think pretty much everyone was on the JR wagon at the time of the 2007draft – including Saint (just checked the April 2007 archives on this blog and will continue to search for the first signs of serious discontent).
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
wait - I was wrong
Here is a March 2007 post by Saint that mentions Kiffin’s statement:
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2007/3/13/15354/5518
I will no go and find the original article – b/c at the time people were not in the habit of providing links…
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
In that one,
He was on the bandwagon. Quote:
“Now before you think that quote is in any way real, let me tell you that it was in one of my nightmares last night…Truly!!!”
Even Mel Kiper was high on him. Look it up on Youtube. I did myself.
Isn’t this curious how this appears RIGHT before Week 1 starts?
Interesting.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Sep 6, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I know it's old story - just wanted to see how things stood at the time
Couldn’t find the link for Saint post above (many articles are pay-per-view and such). But here is what Kiffin said on 3/27/2007 (his assessment at the time was seen as smokescreen strategy):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/03/27/raiders.draft/
“With JaMarcus, you have someone who’s like a video game, I guess,‘’ said Kiffin, whose table at the AFC head coaches media breakfast was jam-packed with reporters, in no small part because Oakland owns the top pick in next month’s NFL Draft. "That’s what I tell our guys. Just because he can make all these throws you can make on a video game.‘’
Listening to Kiffin break down the draft’s top two quarterbacks — Russell and Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn — was pretty interesting and insightful. But take it for what it’s worth, because this is lying season in the NFL, and there’s very little genuine card-tipping that goes on when it comes to the upper tier of the draft.
“There isn’t a throw [Russell] can’t make properly,‘’ Kiffin said. "And the throws he can make, I don’t know if anybody else can make them. He can go way over there and throw the ball 70 yards back over there. That’s real exciting and everything, but how many times does that happen a year? About two in 16 games? That’s a scout’s dream to have a guy like that, but you have to dig deeper than that because that doesn’t happen that much.’’
That’s not an outright rejection – I can’t say for sure he warned against drafting JR altogether. Then, on 3/30/2007, here is what he said:
http://napavalleyregister.com/sports/article_9c3ba722-8241-52cc-b3a1-e916ec80ffb8.html
LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell could be at the top of Oakland’s list. Kiffin called him a "big-time player. He makes about every throw you can imagine. I think that he definitely understands what the position’s about and he understands how to lead from that position as well."
Another blow-smoke comment. If someone can provide the link from Saint’s post, I’d appreciate it.
My assessment so far – Al took Kiffin’s comments and blew them out of proportion. This is a preliminary assessment, though – it can change if I can see more text.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
AW, could you provide a link for the opening sentence of your post?
Lance Kiffin…made a correct judgement call on Jamarcus Russell being a slouch and not wanting to draft him.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew he wanted Calvin Johnson. But QB was the way to go, I guess.
Quinn would’ve sucked too anyways so good riddance anyways.
The RaiderLaker
Clarification
I haven’t said that Kiffin didn’t want to draft Russell, because I have no idea what was happening behind closed doors, and whoever was there hasn’t said anything.
HOWEVER, it is clear from the gameplans and playcalling that Kiffin was not of the belief that Russell, and to a point the OL, could handle much of a passing game. That, as well as what was said by both he and Al at the end, is what I base my call that he did not care for Russell.
I don’t hate Al, but there are plenty of reasons to dislike what he has done for the last 7 years…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
AL
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You are right j-man
That’s one area he’s a very positive role model – and from what I’ve seen, he’s not blowing smoke here.
by Spirals galore on Sep 6, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Bottom line
If Kiffin is really a genius, then we’ll be seeing him taking a team to the National Championship..instead of the Tennessee-like shenanigans we have seen.
The USC job is what he wanted.
He got what he wanted. Once he figured out he was in over his head here, he went to the Vols. And when USC job finally opened, he was all over it. It’s not hard to see his thought process.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Yeah
But getting the job is one thing. He’s good at getting jobs. Now let’s see him not f**k it up this time like he has every other one.
Taking Tenn to a bowl game
his first year….isn’t really fucking it up.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Isn't that
more because of his dad’s defensive genius than his overall skills? He still managed to cause a scandal there. Meanwhile, USC give up 36 points to Hawaii. Hawaii?? No dad, no defense, apparently.
Monte Kiffin is at USC
His title is Assistant Head Coach, and although Ed Bergeron is officially the DC, I’m guessing that he takes his marching orders from Monte. Bergeron was given the title and responsibilities to bring him and his awesome recruiting ability into the fold…
That they gave up 36 points to Hawaii is more indicative of numerous new starters, and a new scheme, than Lane Kiffin’s coaching ability. Or would you also say that Texas and Oklahoma are going to suck, for instance, because they also struggled in their opening games…?
As for Tennessee, he left them in better shape, in talent and execution, than when he arrived. Is he a good coach? Still too early to tell one way or the other, although it’s hard to argue that he doesn’t know about QB’s…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Did he?
Because I read all the articles on it I could find, and I couldn’t see one Tennessee fan sorry to see him go. I think these pics sum it up:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/13/tennessee-football-riots_n_421255.html
Now I’m no expert on Tennesee football, but I have to say that’s not the farewell I would have expected for a well liked coach. Not exactly tearful wishes for happy trails.
Just because they're upset at what happened
doesn’t mean he didn’t do good things there.
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An awful lot of fans don't know jack
They were a team in a decline, and they played better in every game, although the record didn’t show it. Who did Alabama need an extremely low-percentage play to work to squeak out a win against…?
That didn’t happen under the previous Vols coaches.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
See
You know what the real shame is, is that Monte follows Lane all over the country, but not here where we could have really used him. He’ll actually waste his time in the college system, when he could be working for a pro team.
Ummm man do some research
Kiffin tried to get Monte here, but it didn’t work out and in fact Davis called him Monte himself so there would be no allegations of tampering.
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lane
wanted to kick ryan to the curb to bring in his dad. that was of the main arguments him and davis had.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Sep 9, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions
That is true.
He also fired Willie Shaw one year after he came over with Gruden because he didn’t like that he preferred cover 2 over man to man. All of this in spite of the fact they doubled their win total from 4-12 to 8-8 and ranked 3rd overall in total defense that year. Also Charles Woodson won DROY that year and had 5 interceptions including 1 ran back for a TD. That was his high as a Raider before he was signed by GB.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
From now on...if anyone uses the word *Genious*..it must be 8-10 word away from the name*Kiffin*
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 7, 2010 11:39 AM PDT reply actions
dammit...i meant Genius!!!
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Sep 7, 2010 11:41 AM PDT reply actions
I still like Kiffin. He’s a smart guy and a smart coach. He’ll do good things in USC and I wish he was still our coach. But, you can’t dwell on the past. Tom is our coach now, and I’m putting my trust in him to take this team back to greatness.
As for the Al Davis thing..It’s clear he lost his mind after the Gruden trade..I think this year is different ’cause he actually gave up control..
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Cable is NOT a good coach.
If he was a good coach, there never would have been speculation about his job last year. Just because a team played for him and bought into his kool aid doesn’t mean he’s a good coach. He’s an offensive line coach….but our o-line last year let Grad get hurt. The only reason Cable is coach at Oakland is because no one else really wants the job. The only thing that will make Cable look good this year is POSSIBLY, and I don’t buy that he’s any good either, is Jackson.
What would make him look like a good coach is to put Gradkowski in as starter off the bat. The ability to fight management for what would be better for the team is a good coach. Cable’s just a yes man with a pumpkin for a head.
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I'm not a Cable fan, but...
He has done some good things, too: in order to get an organization turned around, you need to change the mindset, and it seems that he has been able to do that. You have to convince players that you and they are on the right track, because if they don’t buy it, whatever you’re doing is not going to work. You have to get the players to trust each other, and to build chemistry in the locker room, all of which it appears that Cable has done, and brings a motivation that the players like as well.
However, in my mind, that doesn’t excuse his failures in other areas: still a below average line, his area of expertise. Piss-poor game-planning and play calling last year. Apparently weak talent evaluation skills. Acceptance of horrifically lousy special team play. Seems to get too close to players, keeping them beyond their shelf life/usefulness.
He may be able to succeed with Jackson utilizing the skills of the offense, a chance he dorked up last year. If so, then I have no real problem with his staying; success can come because of the HC, or because of the coordinators. Six of one, half dozen of another. What did Billick do without his OC and DC from the salad days…?
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by signcut on Sep 8, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly, Why? Mike is obviously wrong. Cable wants and is changing the culture.
Don’t forget stability/continuity. But there are some things he must do and listen to what Al says or he is fired, hence, he is a “yes” man. Even if it means not giving full, specific injury reports, not playing a lot of zone, just mostly man. It’s not his fault if his job was in jeopardy, you have a very involved, pesky owner. Don’t blame Cable for everything that has happened. We got five wins with the SOB, that’s better than 4, we just keep improving little by little.
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It's a whole lot of wishful thinking
We could do a hell of a lot better than Cable for a coach, than a guy who’s claim to fame is that he got fired from Idaho University and multiple domestic abuse incidents. And as for that pesky owner, what’s needed is a coach who both has the experience necessary and who make the old man see reason, backing him down when necessary. Lord knows sometimes Al needs a foot in the @$$, and sucking up to him is only going to get the team so far. Three very highly questionable #1 drafts picks in a row for Davis ought to have humbled him somewhat.
unfortuantely
I inadvertently stole if from Sons-of-Blanda.
My usual quote for him is that rocks hold his head’s shape.
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Kiffin Not Wanting Jrock
You obviously haven’t seen projectorGate when Al states that Kiff did not want Russell and Al stated Russell is a great player and to get over it.
by Terrell Randall on Sep 12, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions

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