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According to Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk, the Oakland Raiders have signed defensive tackle Jay Alford formerly of the New York Giants.

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Whose spot is he taking?

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 1:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice filler for the rotation and Wauffle obviously knows his abilities, but who is leaving the 53 so Alford can join?

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by TheRaiderWay on Sep 8, 2010 1:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Hell, if this guy fully recovers from his ACL

he can be a lot more than filler.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

but, the ACL ismy concern. That’s why I wonder who will be leaving the 53, when it may well be that while Alford will be part of the 53, he may not be on the Sunday 45.

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by TheRaiderWay on Sep 8, 2010 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed and I looked, but I can't find it.

I am shocked the Raiders haven’t promptly released this info. It’d almost have to be a LB as I don’t see any of the D-linemen being expendable.

Sam Williams? Maybe they got a trade worked out for Howard?

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 2:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he's playing,

but I think that is one of those injuries where they say it can take over a full season of playing before the guy gets back to full strength.

Which would be awesome. Either way, he’s not going to be dead weight.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

He played all 4 preseason games

Just was expendable w/ NYG DL on roster

NO MERCY!

by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Sep 8, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thoracic disk injury (back spasms)

If the nature of the injury to Gaither is back spasms caused by a thoracic disk injury, then his availabilty could be questionable. He may not improve our offensive line if he can’t get out onto the field.

by Il guapo on Sep 8, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the Silver & Black Jay Alford

Wow, last year we couldn’t scream loud enough for the Raiders to bring in another NT – this year we get 2! Cable may have thrown last years starting LBs under the bus for our woes in stopping the run, but the DL has plenty of new faces as well.

Could the Raiders be concerned with Bryant’s elbow or with Henderson generally?

Also, I think either Loper or Pears will be the player removed from the 53-man roster to make room for Alford. The Raiders don’t need both of these guys.

by LiveAdam on Sep 8, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

5 healthy WR vs. 10 healthy OL

The Raiders are too thin at WR to cut either of those guys, regardless of talent level.

by LiveAdam on Sep 8, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Houston is way more cut than this guy! He’s transformed from an awkward DT into a beast DE.

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by JaKe. on Sep 8, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

wow the OL for the DL switch

It’s fine with me since Pears is easily replaceable if their is an O-line injury. I wonder who becomes the T in the T eligible set now?

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Freaky big and fast

Bruce Campbell perhaps?
Assuming he is not starting at RG soon, if so, bring in Carlise as a second G on R and slide langston out one slot.
K Barnes possible as well

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by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Sep 8, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man, if Bruce Campbell can figure out the pro game...

that would be an awesome option.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can be a beast in 2-3 years. Plus, he’s incredibly young.

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by JaKe. on Sep 8, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU

For cutting Pears, the O-line just got better, and we only have 9 instead of 10 now, addition by subtraction!!!

NO MERCY!

by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Sep 8, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

100% Healthy?

This article written last month illustrates that Alford is not yet completely healthy and recovered from last year’s ACL surgery.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/09/giants_cut_defensive_tackle_ja.html

I have to agree with TheRaiderWay:

[I]t may well be that while Alford will be part of the 53, he may not be on the Sunday 45.

Not for the first few games at least.

by LiveAdam on Sep 8, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Erik Pears released

According to CBS Sports, the Raiders released Erik Pears to make room for Alford on their 53 man roster.

“The Raiders waived backup OT Erik Pears to make room for former Giants DT Jay Alford on their 53-man roster. Pears started four games for the Raiders last season, two at left guard and two at right tackle.”

by Il guapo on Sep 8, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Per Jerry McD
Alford said his role has always been that of a pass rushing defenive tackle and that’s how he expects to make his mark with the Raiders.

If he'd just pay me what he's spending to make me stop robbing him, I'd stop robbing him.

by Rich Langford on Sep 8, 2010 12:56 PM PDT reply actions  

DT Rotation

Maybe Mike Waufle has convinced Davis/Cable/Marshall about the Giants’ philosophy of continually rotating D-lineman, which worked so amazing well in 2007-08. Alford now joins Houston, Seymour, and Bryant to the pass-rushing DT rotation to keep everyone fresher.

by LiveAdam on Sep 8, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: DT Rotation

Either way, he’ll be an improvement talent-wise over Pears. Hopefully he’s fully recovered from the torn ACL that caused him to miss the 2009 season.

by Il guapo on Sep 8, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pears and Alford play two different positions.

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by JaKe. on Sep 8, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but

I believe he meant as an overall talent, we will be a better 53 w/ Alford then with Pears.

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by RAIDERSNOMERCY on Sep 9, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. I see. Thanks.

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by JaKe. on Sep 9, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good luck big Jay!

Us boys at BBV already miss him, as he will always hold a special place in our hearts for man-raping pretty boy Brady in the waning minutes of the Super Bowl. he has ability; the question is will he ever be able to find it, or will age and injuries start to creep in and win the battle? hopefully, it’s the former.

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by wilddre22 on Sep 8, 2010 3:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Where do you recommend he play at? DE or DT?

What are his pros and cons as well?

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by patriotguy2 on Sep 8, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's a tackle in the 4-3

now depending on how fast your coaches want there ends in the 3-4, would answer your question. personally, i don’t think he has enough speed on the end, although that’s probably where they’re gonna play him since i think he’s a little light in the ass to be a pure nose. i think he’d be good in a dime or nickel situation where there isn’t so much focus in clogging up the middle.

as far as his pros and cons, it’s been so long since i’ve seen him it’s hard to really say accurately. he has a good bullrush, and can collapse the pocket, if he can get off the block quick. i don’t know how the achilles affected that part of his game, although judging from his invisible preseason, i’d say alot. i wouldn’t expect much from him right away. Rather it’s good depth for around week 8 or so when other guys are chipped up, and hopefully Jay’s ACL will be a little more healed up.

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by wilddre22 on Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok sweet. Thanks.

I would expect him to rotate with Shaugnessy at End, or have him rotate at Tackle with either Henderson or Kelly, with Seymour being on the End instead. Like the depth he gives us, and hopefully the versatility.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Sep 8, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

no doubt

and good luck this season…oh and keep J. Campbell’s jersey clean – he’s my ONLY QB in one of my fantasy leagues!!! lol!

IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!

by wilddre22 on Sep 8, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

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