Raiders Will Not Bring Back DC John Marshall
Vittorio Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that the Oakland Raiders will not be bringing back John Marshall as defensive coordinator in 2011.
Discuss potential successors who share Mr. Davis' schematic philosophies on defense who may be brought in to run the Raiders' defense in 2011. Who fits the bill for the Raiders defense?
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I am so sick of Al...
honestly if everything has to be perfect with his ideal of how a team needs to be coached. Nobody will ever be good enough for him, but him.
Pride & Poise
So if Al let's n
If Al decided that Marshall would stay he would be accused of medling and forcing his guy on the new coach……
I think letting the new coach pick his own staff is by far the right thing to do
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by Ozraider on Jan 15, 2011 10:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So if Al let's his new coach pick
If Al decided that Marshall would stay he would be accused of medling and forcing his guy on the new coach……
I think letting the new coach pick his own staff is by far the right thing to do
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by Ozraider on Jan 15, 2011 10:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
WTF???
If Al decided that Marshall would stay he would be accused of medling and forcing his guy on the new coach……how do u know this was Al’s call? Maybe this was Coach Jacksons call.
I think letting the new coach pick his own staff is by far the right thing to do.
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by Ozraider on Jan 15, 2011 10:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Damn
iPhone post fail hahahaha
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by Ozraider on Jan 15, 2011 10:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So nice you said it thrice.
"When they should be throwing to the cutoff man, they are reading Men's Health for ab workout tips. When they should be sacrifice bunting, they are buying effeminate designer jeans. When they should be fouling off pitches, they are masturbating. Always, they are masturbating."
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 15, 2011 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
That has more to do with Waufle...I believe.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 16, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
i would give credit for our sacks to mike waufle not marshall
by bigpimpin on Jan 16, 2011 1:28 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's true. most of the sacks came via the line
Raiders are historically good at getting sacks though.
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
by Rich Langford on Jan 16, 2011 1:47 AM PST up reply actions
Don't forget Wimbley man. Some of those blitzes were successful. (The run D was not though)
But we better blitz next year either the same or more.
Wimbley, not part of D-line.
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Wimbley Played Nickel DE
Wimbley played the “Elephant” position, where he’d play SLB in base packages and move to DE in nickel packages. He got almost all of his sacks from his DE position.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I say the early favorite is Winston Moss.
He is the current Packers LB coach. The Packers run a 3-4, but Moss has coached in a 4-3. Al brought in Moss for an interview for the Head Coaching spot before he lifted Cable’s interim tag.
I’d be all for it. Moss has never called D plays before, but that’s better than calling them and sucking at it and it’s not like Al is going to go out and bring in a big name defensive coordinator.
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
Oh yeah... damn that Mathews. Get Winston Moss!!! Fuckers are still in the playoffs though.
If he is hired though… it tells me Hue Jax had no say, because we know Al was looking at him last year.
Thought Hue was looking for his staff…
The RaiderLaker
Hue and Al are of one mind. Hue stands while Cable and Marshall have fallen. ... Life is good.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Best news since we bombed Kabul
As for replacements [Noon] I don’t see GB’s Assistant Coach taking a DC position, here or elsewhere but hope I’m wrong because he would be an upgrade over John Marshall. WM would help our dysfunctional LB corps as he helped the Saints and GB’s and as a former NFL standout MLB would develop Death Ro’s latent potential. What’s more, Winston Moss was a Raider (1993) leading us in tackles and an integral part of our advance to the Divisional Playoffs.
Rejoice Nation! Al Davis is on fire and hasn’t made a single poor decision in the past 380 days!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
DC and OC may be more prestigious; I'm not sure of the hierarchy
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
I think he'd jump ship for a chance to call his own plays.
He obviously wants to be a HC and very few LB coaches move to head coaches. Unless the team is Pitt and they seem pretty set at HC.
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
by Rich Langford on Jan 17, 2011 2:22 AM PST up reply actions
kinda upset at this, kinda not. The Raiders defense was last year was its D-Line and nothing else. I liked Marshall personally. After all, what can you do when the defense is in Al’s hands?
Candidates I could see as likely are Winston Moss…….and well no one else short of that. Moss i think is actually very likely. He’s probably the best linebacker coach in the NFL, and could definitely run a 4-3 defense. I’d love to see what he could do for our backers.
Moss could definitely get a big pay raise as a DC, and he’s definitely capable of it.
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There will be other candidates, including...Chuck Pagano
who is currently the Ravens secondary coach, worked with Hue when Hue was there and was the Raiders secondary coach during the 2005 and ’06 seasons.
There are also some good candidates on the remaining playoff teams, so we may not have a new DC until after the Super Bowl.
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by TheRaiderWay on Jan 16, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions
Ugh. Did you see Baltimore's DBs in action yesterday? Hideous, except for Carr
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 7:27 AM PST up reply actions
Lardarious or whatever his name is should be drummed out of the league
For getting beat deep (badly at that) when he was already giving up about a 20 yard cushion
Fuck the ravens for subjecting us to another week of thoughtful big ben interviews and hines wards fucking smile
If there is any justice at all in this world ryan clark should come down with traumatic dementia before next week and james harrison should contract superaids. Damn I hate that fucking team.
by lchristmas on Jan 16, 2011 9:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Under Pagano, Balt's pass defense was 21st in the NFL
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 7:32 AM PST up reply actions
I'm not advocting for Pagano
just saying that there will be several other candidates, including Pagano, who by the way, coached the #1 pass defense in the NFL during the Raiders 2006 season which also happened to be Nnamdi’s breakout year.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Jan 16, 2011 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
I know, TRW. But, Hue's ties to Baltimore have both good and bad implications for us. I'll have to chill more and trust Hue (and Al)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 7:49 AM PST up reply actions
I understand but
Marshall never made any adjustments at halftime. when we are up he played soft and gave up everything under. True we don’t know if it was Marshall calling the plays or AL but we will know with new DC. If he comes here and run single high the who game we know its AL.
Winston Moss
From what I remember about Winston Moss in previous interview news he wasn’t an “X’s and O’s” kind of guy, much like Mike Singletary isn’t an “X’s and O’s” kind of guy. Inspirational leaders work as positional coaches and head coaches, but not as coordinators. I’d be weary of Moss for this reason.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
Previously mentioned steeler hatred notwithstanding
And I have no idea what his philosophies are (but I bet they are aggressive)
My new defensive coach mancrush is on Kevin Greene.
by lchristmas on Jan 16, 2011 11:02 AM PST via mobile reply actions
That would also address the LB coaching situation (issue)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
For all we know, Marshmallow's replacement could be Mike Waufle.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions
I would be up for
giving him a try. Why not? It’s not like there is a huge crop of talented DCs out there waiting with baited breath for us to call them.
Wauffle seemed to get the attention of the D linemen this year.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 16, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
Under Waufle's Iron will the DL pancaked QBs
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I think Waufle may be the rare and happy breed that is actually content where he is.
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
by Rich Langford on Jan 17, 2011 2:27 AM PST up reply actions
Hey at least it won't be Rob Ryan
He’s being hired by the Cowboys for their DC opening.
John Marshall sucked and should have been fired for the Titans game alone.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
+1 billion
Fuck Rob Ryan ……………… thank God Al slept in before he could an interview set up.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 16, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
The best move the Raiders made was one they didn’t. Rob Ryan going to the Cowboys is great news. They will continue to be Allas (no D). This and the hiring of Al Saunders as OC is brilliant. Saunders has a history utilizing both PBS and ZBS as well as run-heavy and pass-heavy offenses.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
What are we going to do next year
When we run essentially the same D we ran this year only with less blitzing?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Trick question. Marshall was terminated for the right reasons not the one you suggest. If you disagree, bring some proof.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yes he was
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 16, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
When did I suggest that his termination wasn't "For Cause"?
You know my point. Don’t change the issue.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Well, what'll it be, scotcfh or beer?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Ah!
You know it is scotch my friend! See, this is a perfect Sunday afternoon drinking and discussion topic that is hampered by distance. Where’s that Star Trek transporter technology when you need it?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Aye, beem me up Rusty23
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 16, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, Rusty, it will be so fun if we can get together some day!
by Spirals galore on Jan 16, 2011 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Hope for a better economy or a lottery win for Rusty so I can afford the trip!
I’m assuming there will be a great meeting one day. Hope sooner rather than later!
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Probably...............
not make the playoffs…….. yet again and bitch about it…………. yet again and wonder who will be the figurehead DC in 2012.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 16, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
In Related News
ESPN’s Adam Schefter and Bill Williamson have heard grumblings that, should Hue Jackson be named the Raiders’ head coach, Al Saunders may be brought it to be the new offensive coordinator.
We’ve heard Saunders’ name before, and the move would make perfect sense. As an Air Coryell disciple Saunders would run the type of offense Mr. Davis would like. Futhermore, Saunders is familiar with both Jason Campbell from time spent in Washington D.C., and with Hue Jackson from time spent in Baltimore.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I would expect Hue to still call the plays. Wouldn't you?
they’ll still hire an OC, but he won’t be a play calling OC
Drunk by noon, but that's okay--I'll be president someday.
by Rich Langford on Jan 17, 2011 2:30 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
I’m sure Hue will still call the plays, he just needs assistance building the offensive gameplan on a week to week basis. Gruden called plays, but even he had Callahan and Trestman helping with the gameplan.
"When we play tough, and we play physical, and when we play the way we're supposed to play, can't nobody beat us." - Richard "SeaMonster" Seymour
I heard this is the 8,000 pages playbook guy...
And that he sucks because he gets them all mixed up. (the plays)
The RaiderLaker
sounds like a dyslexic librarian
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 17, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like
we are headed back to double digit losses and more disarray on offense.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 17, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
HTH (how the hell) can any coach expect players to learn even a fraction of those plays, like over 800?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 17, 2011 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
biggest joke of the day
Discuss potential successors who share Mr. Davis’ schematic philosophies on defense who may be brought in to run the Raiders’ defense in 2011. Who fits the bill for the Raiders defense?
there is nothing to discuss, its Al’s man or his scheme or nothing. That is why NOBODY fits the bill never will too.
I can only wish we ran similar schemes to the current top teams (yes the talent might not be at the same level but it at least gives us a better chance than 100% man with little to no blitzing.) It was a breath of fresh air to see the DL get as much pressure as they did and to lead the league for most of the season. Too bad the rest of the defense couldnt keep pace.
by SilvrnBlck forever on Jan 16, 2011 10:31 PM PST reply actions
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