Oakland Raiders 2011 NFL Mock Draft: Who Do We Select In The Second Round
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 22, 2011 5:43 PM PST
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PrintRaider Nation, with the season in the rear view mirror and most of our coaching questions answered, I believe that Winston Moss will be the DC once the Packers end their season, it is time to start letting some names resonate.
Last year we, as a Community, did a fantastic job of identifying our needs and the players who may fill them.
So, this year, let's start by identifying which players may be available, round by round and create our own Big Board.
This year's draft is going to be a challenge because with the first pick not coming until the 2nd Round, we know that a Top rated, QB, WR, RB, OT or CB will not be available at number 48.
My initial thought is that with our needs on the OL at Center, LG, RT and RG as well as in the defensive backfield if Nnamdi leaves let's take a look at who is projected to be 'Potentially" available when the Raiders pick.
Offensive Line:
Centers: There are two intriguing names here, Kris O'Dowd from USC and Stefen Wisniewski from Penn State.
Wisniewski is slated in most drafts to be taken by the New England Patriots at the top of the 2nd Round, but, if he falls past New England I am not sure that he makes it all the way down to #48, so he would cost the Raiders some valuable picks in a draft that they are already light at the top.
O'Dowd may be there in the third round, but would he be an upgrade over Satele? I'm not so sure. So, I say that if "Wiz" is there, take him, if he isn't, then let's pass on the Center position.
Guards: Rodney Hudson is an interesting prospect from Florida State.
Hudson has been an ALL ACC O-Lineman about whom Jimbo Fisher said, "He's one of the best I've ever coached." Interestingly enough, he may end up playing Center at the next level and deserves a good look because of his versatility.
Tackles: This is where I am extremely intrigued. DeMarcus Love and Jason Pinkston are both projected to be on the Board when the 48th pick roles around and they are both deserving of the pick.
I feel that IF DeMarcus Love is still around at #48, he would be a steal. He blocked for a 1,000 yard rusher and protected the blindside of a 3,000 yard passer in 2010. Named all SEC in 2010, I can only pray that we would be able to add someone of his ability to the O-Line in 2011. IF Robert Gallery leaves he could slide next to Veldheer or battle Mario henderson for the starting RT position.
Pinkston has been named First Team All Big East for the second year in a row and he has the ability to play tackle or Guard. I would definitely not be upset if Pinkston were the choice.
Cornerback: Davon House and Johnny Patrick are the names that CBS has listed in the range that we would be selected.
House projects as a man press corner on the outside (though he could play zone) because of his height and speed.
If this is true, we may have found our man, regardless of who else is available.
Johnny Patrick made big plays in big games and you all know how much Mr. Davis loves that stuff, but, Patrick projects as a zone corner.
So, with the draft still 3 months away and some intriguing names that are still floating our there like Dontay Moch, Marvin Austin and Quinton Carter, I am sure that my opinion will change, but, for now my Big Board would look like this:
1) Wiz
2) Hudson
3) Love
4) House
If one of these players is there, our team will get better immediately. Stay tuned and chime in. Let's DO THIS!!!
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Word from the East-West Shrine Game
Raiders have a lot of interest in Dontay Moch and LSU offensive tackle Joseph Barksdale.
Barksdale was reguarded as a possible top 10 pick, but underacheived. Has all the physical talent in the world, but not the mindset. Still gonna get picked in the 3rd/4th round. Some of these types do change, so there’s hope there.
Moch has transitioned fairly well to OLB and split reps at both WILL and SAM during the Shrine week. Pretty fluid, a 3rd/4th rounder.
As for the 2nd round, I’m gonna call it right now. Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 22, 2011 6:12 PM PST reply actions
Very good to hear our priorities are focuse (again) on need, i.e. OLB to stop the rush, i.e. on the strong side
I’m all for concentrating on OLB & OL (T or C) 2nd round (whichever is the best value) and getting the others in the 3rd & 4th. However, if Nnamdi leaves, CB moves up to OLB status for need.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 22, 2011 6:34 PM PST up reply actions
wow didn't even finish reading your comment. Just reacted to seeing LSU in the first sentence...
“Barksdale was reguarded as a possible top 10 pick, but underacheived.” Yeah… LMAO. Fuck LSU.
The RaiderLaker
Dont count the Raiders out of the first round...
When it was brought up to Al Davis that the Raiders dident have a pick in the first rd he said"oh yea,who Say’s"I can see an opportunity for the Raiders to get back in the first rd by making a trade to New England for there second pick #28 over all.hopefully this trade can happen with out giving up the pick at #48.taking Gabe Carimi, OT with the #28 pick would be great or possibly M,pouncy who can play both guard or center.then with the #48 pick i would like to see them get J,Smith CB or the best CB available,regardless of what happens with Nnamdi.i wouldn’t be upset if they used this pick for OLB D,Love either.
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
a few notes on Carimi
Pass blocking: Has the elite agility and nimble feet to protect the quarterback’s blindside. Very difficult to turn the corner against because of his lateral movement and solid footwork. Also protects the inside lane well. Delivers a strong hand punch capable of knocking back an opponent, and is able to recoil and extend again. Uses his length to block his man with one hand and knock an edge blitzer off his path with the other. Quick to cut on bubble screens and reverses, though he could get more of his man’s legs to be truly effective. Bends at the waist while engaged; usually holds on to prevent secondary rush but will also end up on the ground too often.
Run blocking: Known as an athletic pass protector, but is a strong blocker for the Badger run game. Has strong upper and lower body builds despite his height. Plays with leverage against stout defensive ends and tackles on the edge, can get under their pads and churn his legs to move them down or off the line. Effective combo blocker, gets a hand on a tackle and still manages to push ends out of the play on strong-side runs. Leans or bends at the waist to latch on at times, will get shed and lose his balance.
Pulling/trapping: Usually not asked to pull or trap from the outside, but down-blocks often and has the quickness and footwork to move behind the line. Gets his quick hands out in front to get a piece of inside defenders before moving to the MIKE linebacker. Can sustain blocks in space because of his length and nimble feet.
Initial Quickness: Elite first step in his kick slide and lateral movement, does not get beat off the edge very often. Also explodes off the ball on run plays, is capable of driving his man back a few yards. Defenders will take advantage of the quickness to take him upfield or knock him off balance, however.
Downfield: Excellent footwork and agility to get downfield. Reaches linebackers at the second level and defensive backs further downfield equally well. Knows the proper angle to cut off defenders from the ballcarrier. Good lateral movement once engaged, gives effort to sustain against smaller defenders. Tends to bend at the waist and punch instead of moving after initial contact.
Intangibles: Solid player with strong work ethic, as well as football and general intelligence. Received multiple Academic All-American and All-Big Ten awards. Missed three games in 2008 with right MCL sprain, but played through maladies in 2009: slight tear in right MCL scarring, left AC joint (shoulder) sprain, H1N1 virus. Fasted for 24 hours before 2008 game against Iowa in observance of Yom Kippur.
He played when he had H1n1 for God’s sake!this guy screams Raider legend
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
Gabe Carimi is fucking amazing
If we could move up into the draft to get Gabe in any way DO IT! I watched all but one Badger game and I cant believe that he isnt being talked about for in the early rounds. I think after the Combine his stock is going to soar. He looks so much like Joe Thomas its crazy. If we got him I would do cartwheels. Also Winston Moss is really a great coach. He is very classy and has all the team’s and city’s respect. I would be very excited to see him join our staff.
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 22, 2011 7:08 PM PST reply actions
lol sorry not early rounds early picks. I think he could end up being a 10-15 pick in the draft.
by Marcus Allen Krause on Jan 22, 2011 7:08 PM PST reply actions
yep,
but if he falls to #28 i think the Raiders should do what they have to to get him.same for M,Pouncy.who is the younger(and according to some the more talented)brother of Steelers rookie C M,Pouncy.he to would be worth moving up to get,again providing the Raiders keep the #48 pick as well.
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
I like Pouncey...
I think he could be a good pick but I don’t think he will make it out of the 1st round. There is always a high need for centers in this league. He could play guard as well Setele’ played well down the stretch he may have gotten healthy and he is young still. Still have to figure out if Gallery is coming back if so I hope it’s for guard money not tackle money. He is a stable factor for our line. The CBA is the other issue still to be determined.
He looks more like a guard than a center, IMO
Doesn’t matter, he’ll still go in the first, probably between 15-20.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
I'd go for a big OLB
in the 2nd round, and kick Bruce Campbell out to RT.
Get a C/G with one of our mid-round picks.
Rucker should be available in the 4th as a big strong corner.
They need to rebuild the OL
bring in some free agents and draft guys wherever they can. As much as I can’t stand him, they also have to re-sign Gallery since replacing the whole line will be a problem. Remember also, Seymour is a free agent. They’ll need to replace him. More WRs. QB of the future is needed too.
Seymour should get the contract now (3 years), if not, tag him again. Who else would you be willing to use the tag on?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 22, 2011 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Unfortunately for the Raiders
filling all there needs will not be possible.retaining the Fa’s must be top priority.Gallery,Seymour and Nnamdi are the core of the Raiders.losing any of these guys would be a huge set back.This means signing a primer FA is not in the cards.Drafting a high caliber OL man(or two)and an OLB should come first in the draft,a CB second a WR third and and a QB last.WR A,Binns should be available in the fourth Rd and there should be some interesting QB in the later Rd’s.Keppernick from Nevada or Troy Weatherhead from Hills dale.as we all know the Raiders do not do well Drafting QB’s in the upper RD"s so why not see if they strike gold in the later ones?
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
The Raiders do not do well drafting QBs, period.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 22, 2011 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Ya
Didn’t matter who was behind center last year when they spent half their time running for their lives.
Consider the 4 teams playing for the two Conference Championships - 3 of them have awesome Linebacking
Meanwhile, our Safeties are making far too many tackles while we have, by all accounts, a very good DL – so what’s that clearly suggest? We need help in the 2nd Row. Ro was a good start and Wimbley is a specialist not a generalist, we need a beast LineBacker or we will continue to be in the bottom 6 against the rush.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
Clay's brother hasn't shown a fast enough forty to go in the first two rounds
So, he could be an option in the 2nd Round.
Wiz
Mathews
Kaepernick
would be a sweet first three picks. Did you see how well Angerer did this year?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 22, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
That would be wonderful
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 22, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
to Angerer; and “Ro” being a good start. Go Raiders!!!!!
Mathews....
Please can someone convince me that this guy is half as good as his brother currently playing for the Packers if not keep in mind that the key word or phrase that’s used around here is “speed”, I think he’s alittle slow and a little too light just my opinion. GO RAIDERS!!!!!
I saw every game Mathews has played...
He plays with intensity and anger he still pissed that he was snubbed by USC he is a play maker. I still like Kenny Rowe better listed as a DE but really a LB in the pros. He is a nut job old school Raider player makes things happen.
The player I want the most from Oregon is Jeff Mael he will not be fazed at the next level. He was a safety converted to WR.
If the Raiders took any of those three they would help immediately.
Mael
Looked like shit during Shrine Game practices all week and in the game itself.
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 23, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
Living in Oregon
I have watched Casey Matthews for the past two seasons, every game. The kid is an absolute playmaker, as McClain was at Alabama. He can defend the pass or run equally well and wreaks havoc with his pass rush. He plays with intensity and a very high motor.
If you want some tape, just watch the first series of this season’s Civil War game vs. Oregon State. He made Katz’s life miserable in that game, and he made Andrew Luck’s life miserable when they played Stanford. He is a stud and will be at least as good as his brother Clay, if not even better. I say we target him in the second round, maybe third if he doesn’t run a fast forty time. He is worth a selection. He plays like an old school Raider, with focused abandon.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Why is he not 1st round material like his brother?
They all say he’s a 2nd rounder maybe 3rd…
The RaiderLaker
Simply this
He is slightly smaller and a tad slower. The measurables are the only reason he is any different from his brother. He is just as big a playmaker and he has excellent instincts.
Clay is 6’4" and measured pre-draft at 240. He now plays at 255. Casey is 6’2" and weighs in at 235. Obviously he hasn’t weighed in at the combine yet but one would imagine, due to genetics, that he has a similar frame as his brother and could play at 250.
At the combine Clay ran a 4.67 40 time. Casey, coming out of high school, ran a 4.7 forty time. The differences are not as pronounced as one might think. But Clay is three years older than Casey so to compare them now really isn’t fair, Casey probably has some more growing to do while his brother is a Pro Bowler. When all is said and done I firmly believe Casey will resemble Clay at each stage of development, and that should extend to Pro Bowl appearances as well as physical stature.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Most draft boards have Casey Matthews as a 5th round pick.
It is most likely due to his 4.85 40 time though which means nothing. I still would be reluctant to use a 2nd or 3rd on him though, maybe a 4th.
Trust No One
Studies show stress can kill you, but don't worry about it.
I don't get that 40 time
Rivals lists his high school 40 time as 4.7 which is only .03 slower than his brother Clay ran at the NFL Combine. I suspect Casey will run in the 4.6 range at the combine. This should boost him to second or third round status.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
"Playing Speed" is what counts. Some athletes excel on turf and some track burners drop off on it
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 24, 2011 6:26 AM PST up reply actions
A switch to 3-4 would help
switching to a 3-4 would move Ro to ILB,which is what he played in collage in a 3-4 pro style D.so Seymour moves back to DE/NT hybrid.this could also help the DB’s by having an extra LB that can cover a RB or TE as well as stuffing the run and allowing the DB’s to focus on WR’s.
"You don't understand the power of the Dark side"
Darth Raider
Everyone's been Stating, We need a FS !!!!
Well, I wasn’t with this thinking of the need for a FS, until I checked the underclassman who has declared for the upcoming Draft. One stands out that is the epitimy of Raiders Style of play !!! ROBERT SANDS, S, from West Virginia, 6’5" 220 lbs, 7ft wingspan, 4.35 40 time, plays the deep middle the way Big AL likes, great tackler, takes excellent lines to the ball, and is an EXPLOSIVE HITTER !!! Did I mention that he’s also a BALLHAWK, from sideline to sideline !!!! I wish I knew how to link you guys up to Youtube, to see this guy, but you guys are savy enough to find it, and it would be worth your time to do so!!! His nicname is The PREDATOR !!! I think they says it all, right there !!! Far as where he might go in the draft, I think he MIGHT be there when we have our first pick, but i would trade up, in the bottom half of the draft to make sure he’s our NEXT GREAT RAIDER SAFETY !!! Putting it Old School, This Kid Is The Shiznit !!! For you ol school RaiderFans, think of bigger, faster version of Charles Phillips who wore # 47 drafted out of USC !!!! I see this kid wearing his Number, next year !!! Last time I felt this strongly about a DB, and there were 2 of them that year, Phillips, and Neal Colzie, and we drafted both of them !!!!!
P.S. Al DAVIS BELIEVES IN THE 4/3 DEFENSE !!!
Always has, always will !!! The only time we went to a 3/4 base was due to injuries in the preseason in 81, and 83. We happen to win the SB’s the seasons also. We happen to have the players to run that D, sucessfully !!! Right now, we don’t have tthe players(LB’s) to run that style, nor do we have the DC, as of yet. Winston Moss has been mentioned, but let me throw this name in the hat, Kevin Greene. Both coaching for Green Bay as of now, both are Don Capers protog’es. Now if either of these 2 guys are hired, then there’s a possibility of this D, becoming the base for the Raiders, possible philosphy change with the Old man, or maybe he not as locked in with his thinking as most you think he is !!!!!
Most of you dont remeber...
The Raiders played the 3-4 when they won their first super bowl. Mr. Davis understands the 3-4 make no mistake about it.
You are right. It would be a mistake to switch to a 3-4 until we have assembled more of the pieces. It takes a couple of
years to convert, but we could do it next season if we’re smart about it but need to get at least one good OLB this draft to set ourselves up … then NT, and one more OLB next season.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 23, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
It may have to do with Wauffle
Wauffle is a 4-man line coach and considered one of the best in the league is all I’ve been hearing changing to a 3-4 is not the biggest issue facing this team. It depends on who comes in as the DC. That’s the bigger issue at hand before personnel decisions. After the scheme you call fill in the needs.
He's interesting, but we should remain focused on the O line
And then a backer, but here’s a VID. Plenty of tape. I like the kid too:
ROBERT SANDS, FREE SAFETY, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0o1xMWqCow&feature=youtube_gdata_player
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Great presence, intense, focused, sells out and intelligent .... I'd take him in a heartbeat and deal Huff
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 23, 2011 4:20 AM PST up reply actions
+1
I just wonder how much range he has. I can see old man AL going crazy over him if he is a 4.4 guy with that size
That is no doubt a key part of the equation already
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Jimmy Smith
1st overall pick, whether Mr. N. Asomugha continues to play for the Raiders or not.
Raiders would have to move up about ten spots though, I think to get him.
1st overall for the Raiders
not the league, this is one year, I would not want the #1 overall pick.
Jimmy Smith is leading the votes in TAW's DB (CB) bigboard as a viable replacement to Nnamdi
However, if (somehow) Asomugha remains – then CB is not even a top 5 priority.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 23, 2011 4:09 AM PST up reply actions
Should the Raiders not resign Nnamdi
then that means we signed 2-3 top other FAs,
this on the premise we are also resigning Mr. Seymour around 10 million.
If not Nnamdi then which 3 other players at 3-8 million a piece?
If Nnamdi at Revis money 8-10 million, then which 2 other players at 2-7 million apiece?
We must sign Zach, Richard & Bush ... or the wheels come off the war wagon
I’ve already come to terms with the likelihood of Nnamdi leaving …. and probably Gallery too (to Seattle)
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 23, 2011 4:03 AM PST up reply actions
We must sign Zach, Richard & Bush ... AND
Kam Wimbley, Samson Satele, Stanford Routt, Marcel Reece, John Henderson, Jon Condo and Desmond Bryant.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Jan 23, 2011 8:55 AM PST up reply actions
Gallery, I wouldn't lose sleep over him leaving, however, Michael Bush, Zach Miller and Richard Seymour are different stories...
I am sure we will get deals worked out, Al knows what we need to do to have a chance, hopefully he will follow through…
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Every year
the draft provides “potential” for the next best thing (position player) since sliced bread; however, it has been proven over the last few years our offensive line is crap, to say the least. Pass blocking and run blocking is ‘what the line do!’ So, being mediocre in one facet of a job and outright horrible in the other is not acceptable.
The Raiders evolved as a team this season and seemingly no longer just a bunch of talented athletes in Oakland. …Sure, everyone marvels at the new car, but once we pass or leave the lot, very often we realize we really don’t need a new car at the time… Such is the case with the Oakland Raiders: we already ‘have our hands full’ with maintaining the solid core that manifest this year, therefore sign our all-important FAs and bring-in a few other proven FAs.
Our draft positions are ‘what they are’ and good offensive linemen can be found in later rounds, that is where our glaring needs lie. Without oversimplifying the process, why not keep it simple and stack up on the best available o-linemen with most of our draft picks in order to play smashmouth ball! …There comes a time when a shift is needed, from building or rebuilding mode to putting the finishing touches on any structure… Go Raiders!!!!
by Realtooreal on Jan 23, 2011 3:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
For This Very REASON Real2R ........
Taking a VERY GOOD & HARD LOOK at this kid, (Robert Sands) would be worth wild !! Rounds 3, 4, 5, & 6 on the O-line, and a LB !! But Standing At 6’5", 220 lbs., 4.3 40, 7ft wingspan, sideline to sideline coverage !!! ShhhhhhhhhiiiiiiT !!!! Did I mention he can play the corner as well. What if Nnamdi sticks & stays, and we could put this Kid at the other Corner Position !!! TAKE A LOOK AT THE FILM ON HIM !!!ROBERT SANDS, FREE SAFETY, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0o1xMWqCow&feature=youtube_gdata_player
And his nicname is THE PREDATOR to boot !!!!
At Safety, my gut says this kid could be better than Troy P. What if he can handle the Coner, with as much GUSTO, as he has at the Safety Position. What if Nnamdi chooses to stay , and the possibilty of the 2, playing the corners for us !!! Revis WHO !!! I got this feeling folks, he could be the one !!!!
The Predator
This kid is a beast i have seen him play i think that might be a good pick but just to see a 6’5 free safety running around the backfield that would be a scary sight for widerecivers ….. I like it
Love
Reading his report on CBS, I get the impression that Love would be better at guard than tackle. I agree that if Carimi falls toward the end on the 1st we have to try to move up.
I’m increasingly intrigued with Davon House, though. If we stay where we are I wouldn’t mind grabbing him at all.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
Rookie CB to replace Nnamdi?
If Nnamdi leaves they better not replace him with some second round rookie, better take a good look at free agents. CB is the toughest position in football to play. Even first round rookie CB’s have their problems adjusting to the NFL. Also the Raiders already have to young CB’s. Better go Offensive line in the second round or an outside linebacker to shore up a somewhat shotty run defense.
Agreed. Look how long it took for Nnamdi's talent to emerge at the spot
Don’t get me wrong. When I watch the tape on Sands, I’m very impressed. Not so much that I forget we didn’t go after the lineman we needed with the fervor we should have. If we get the right pieces for the trenches, then a guy like Sands is great, but he would require a pick we’d be best suiited using on O line.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Well, well, time to talk about the draft, lets see, we have so many needs, however, I will talk about the areas I am sure we can improve with a move in the draft and free agency...
First, we will NOT be able to replace Nnamdi, you don’t just replace a cornerback that doesn’t give up touchdowns. You can talk about a lack of turnovers all you want, but this guy doesn’t get scored on. As a DB myself, I will just say drafting one would be to improve for the future at least at Corner. There are two DB’s that I really like that may be available that late in draft, good choice Saint, Davon House New Mexico State is a ball player, I watch WAC Football got a kid at Fresno State, great hips, intelligent, quick, and fast, even with all that, he would need to get up to speed in the NFL, the WAC has good players however, they don’t compare to the NFL at all. The next player is Robert Sands out of West Virginia, this kid is the truth, he would still need to learn the NFL game, however, he could make a impact as a rookie. On the O line if DeMarcus Love is there at 48 you have to take him, he would be by far the best player available. and he could come in and play right away. If not, and House or Sands is there I take one of them. In Free Agency is where I expect to see most of our immediate improvement, my focus would be to sign Vince Young, he should come at the right place, next I would look at TO he is going for the league veteren minimum and he would force teams to game plan him while our blazing WR’s wreak havoc on opposing teams..TO had his best statistical season in his entire career last year. He would add a dimension to our Offense we lacked last year, a true number 1 receiver that has to be considered by opposing defenses. Just the addition of Young & TO would add wins, look Vince Young would have to earn his position as everyone should in training camp, I don’t believe in giving starting positions to players, a player should earn it every year in camp. Injury is the only reason a player shouldn’t lose his spot, and when you are the best a injury is just a temporary set back..
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions
I don’t believe center is a weakness. I really don’t. Samson Satele was solid all year long and light years better than he was last year. He was a major force at the point of attack when we ran the ball, and he did a lot of the time one-on-one with some 3-4 NT’s (his once weakness). I don’t really ever recall Satele giving up any more than 2 sacks, and he was constantly busting open holes for our 2nd rushing offense.
Satele can no longer be called weak against 3-4 NT’s. In a division where we are the only non 3-4 team, Satele was pushing these guys back with minimal help as Gallery was helping Veldheer and Carlisle a liability. I love Samson Satele, and am glad to see him meeting my expectations in terms of his improvement.
Now then, RG is a weakness as is RT. However, if we draft RT and move Langston to RG, all of a sudden this line looks incredible (assuming we also bring back Gallery). Langston no longer would have to play much faster DE’s and could just use his massive 365 pound body to hold back, and push back, the DT’s.
DeMarcus Love is definitely my ideal draft choice and one I think is incredibly likely. However, if Moch’s stock rises to second round level, get him. No contest. We HAVE to get him. Moch immediately would make our defense better simply off the fact that he’d finally give us a 4-3 linebacker who’s fast enough to actually contain the edge rushes.
I’ve said it countless times, edge containment is killing this team. You bring in Moch who can take good pursuit angles and actually catch the backs on the edge, oh what wonders it would do for us.
However, if Moch is believed to still be around in the 3rd or 4th, grab Love and get Moch later. But we NEED Moch.
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Satele is a free agent
and there is no backup anyway. We cannot continue to have Veldheer leave his LT spot and move to center every time Satele gets hurt. That is why the center position is weak on the Raiders and as it stands now, they will have to add 1 or 2 centers to their roster.
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by TheRaiderWay on Jan 23, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yes. And guys who can play center can play guard, and sometimes tackle
Especially your Pounceys and Wizzes.
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Not saying Raiders will bring Satele back, but i think Hue and Al really like him. And a backup center can be found easy in free agency or late in the draft. By weakness I don’t mean not enough on roster, I mean that the talent is good enough that it’s not a bad area of the team.
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KA1Z3R, I don't think Moch is off the Radar, this kid has WR/CB Speed, he plays a little wild, however, coached properly he would be a beast against the run....No RB can out run him...
Hell he is faster that every RB on our roster….lol I think we need another 2nd round choice, a higher pick, I would want Love if he is there, Mock has a huge upside, if we keep Nnambi, then Sands at DB or Mock at OLB, and/or Love OL..Mock is a little raw, however, he is coachable, this is going to be interesting. I know I sound indecisive, however, Love is the surest pick, I just can’t see him being at 48..Mock & House I could see being available at 48 coming out of the WAC, Sands is coming out of WV early and will probable be available in the 3rd round, he can play but will need work on a NFL game. I agree on Satele, he showed heart and toughness, I am comfortable at that position..
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
They’re saying Sands could go in the first, i think he’s the #2 safety prospect right now. I’d love having him though. Living in West Virginia, I got to see a lo of him through his whole career and he is legit. Future Pro Bowl talent (the kind that deserves it and isn’t hype lol)
You’re right though it’s upside or guarantee. Moch has incredible upside and could be one of the best playmakers on defense in a few years. Meanwhile, Love is that guy who is guaranteed to be good from year one.
If both would somehow be there, I’d go Moch. The defense is the weak spot and the offense as it is structured (under some assumed re-signings), is just fine. Defense though, especially that edge containment being as terrible as it is, isn’t good enough to make us the division winners.
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Dang KA1Z3R, how do you pass on Love, I feel you, but it is hard to let a guy like Love pass
at 48, I would have to try to move up to get Love a couple of spots if he’s available and get Moch at 48, if we sign Nnamdi. If not, we need to look seriously at free agency or the draft to help that position, though Nnamdi’s talent will NOT be replaced right away. Maybe then I swing for Moch to help with his speed on the edge on that side. Sands is a top prospect. Love offers strong OL help can’t pass him up, we can score, and with more blocking we could very well just out score our opponents…I am not disagreeing with you, however, I might have to trade up if both those players are available close to each other….
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I think we could get something at RT in free agency or later on, heck maybe Bruce Campbell takes over at the spot since Hue likes him and he wants more power running. Campbell at RT and Walker at RG=insane run blocking. But once again, I’m going off roster development and free agency which are far from probable no matter what.
Now then, i just feel the defense is much weaker than the offense right now. Yes the offense needs work as it is far from consistent, but if we can improve the D as a whole (use money saved from Nnamdi departure to get a couple guys at LB, CB, or S in addition to a Moch pick or other defender that’s not D-Line), then I think that this team becomes in contention for a division crown. Bad defense lost us vital games (Cards game shouldn’t have come down to the jano kick in the first place, Titans offense wasn’t that good, Rashard Jennings for the Jags shouldn’t have dominated us like that).
Fix the D and we can be a playoff team. The Pats, Falcons, and Seahawks were really the only bad or even mediocre defenses in the playoffs, and even they lost in the opening round/when a team took them seriously (Seattle). Defense is more needed than offense. Doesn’t even have to be Moch, but he is definitely my ideal pick because even though he’s kind of a developmental guy, he immediately can start in and help the two worst areas of defense. Edge rush containment and TE/RB coverages.
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Cocur on priorities. Not sure about Moch being our #2
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 24, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Mark Herzlich (I know that you know him well, KA1Z3R) ... projected 2nd Round ... if healthy, a sure pick
Read & React: Rare diagnosis skills. Is seemingly always around the ball. Reads his keys quickly and takes excellent angles to beat the football to a spot. Aggressively attacks the line of scrimmage against the run, but can apply the brakes and change direction quickly if initially fooled by play-action.
Run defense: Good initial quickness toward the line of scrimmage against the run. Slices through gaps, showing good burst, lateral agility and instincts to consistently meet the ballcarrier near the line of scrimmage. Good balance, agility and vision to flow through the trash and the line of scrimmage, as well as laterally to string plays wide. Has an explosive pop to disengage quickly from blockers. Has the prototypical long arms, good upper-body strength and good balance required for breaking free quickly. Rare effort in pursuit laterally and downfield. Goes all out, all the time.
bq, Pass defense: Gains good depth on his initial drop, staying balanced and ready to turn either direction quickly. Efficient footwork. Rarely takes a misstep. Has good, not great, overall agility and straight-line speed for sticking with his receiver or tight end assignment, but understands the angles of the game, remaining consistently in between his opponent and the passer. Tracks the quarterback’s eyes and shows good route-recognition and the burst to break on the ball. Good ball skills.
Tackling: One of the more reliable open-field tacklers in the nation. Excellent balance for his size when breaking down to tackle smaller, quicker athletes. Shows proper technique in running through his tackles and his form is a picture of the hit-lift-drive technique. Shows legitimate explosiveness as a hitter, often knocking the ballcarrier backward. Wraps his arms securely rather than relying on impact when leading with his shoulder or helmet. Possesses the long arms and good hand-eye coordination to trip up ballcarriers in pursuit.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 24, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
THIS!!!! ^
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
If we could get this guy somehow our lbs almost immediately go from weakness to strength
Another deep year bodes well for us and needing a lb. Something big will happen in free agency soon that will change the course of how we’ll be looking at this years April.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Herzlich did not perform well at Senior Bowl
As a result, his stock has dropped, possibly to the 5th round area. He does have excellent size, however, and would have been a 1st rounder if he came out early (before being diagnosed with cancer). I originally thought the Raiders should consider Herzlich with their 3rd round selection, primarily because he possessed good size and was better against the run and in pass coverage than say Moch who would have to transition from DE to OLB.
Love has seen his stock drop
Primarily because he lacks top-tier athleticism. He has enough foot quickness to play LT but appears to be better-suited for the right side at the NFL level.
Jaquiawn Jarret, FS, is a 4th rounder now(would love to get him).
I am very cautious of Moch. Vernon Gholston has made me like this.
He seems like a project to me.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
Center will be addressed, I think Satele will recover from his injury issues this off season, we may look to free agency at Center.
However, Satele when healthy handles his position well. I would address center, it is a must and the Raiders have always had a history of tough centers…
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 1:26 PM PST reply actions
Heard Carson Palmer is available. Let's get him for a 5th or 4th, no higher.
He would be a good vet backup, having Boller as the #2 QB is not good at all. This guy once had a 32 TD, 13 pic season.
The RaiderLaker
By the way, I am currently on contract in Joliet, IL and there are so many Raider fans here it's crazy...
Of course, my SUV has Raiders, and I wear my gear so I am constantly giving Raider fans around the country our site info @ www.silverandblackpride.com to join our conversation.
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 1:30 PM PST reply actions
Ha ha! You represent us well, Rodney, and help make us the great site we have become
Very, very excited about the state of the franchise, of late. I feel Al has something up his sleeve, that will surprise and excite, as well as have others scratching their heads, as usual, but I feel this will pan out and propel the Raiders back to prominence and dominance again.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
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You know we have the best blog in the country hands down all teams...We study, scout, then report...gotta love it..
The resigning of key free agents will be the deciding factor on where we are going. Al knows what he needs to do, we are close..And fellas Vince Young should be a off season focus, I felt Mike Vick should have been as well. TO is available also, man, he would add a something Moss couldn’t, toughness. I look forward to the combine this year in Indy, that is where I live now by the way, I see the kids every year. Go Raiders!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
JaggerJaw, lets get Vince Young and let him compete, then we have a young athletic QB that can make plays for the next 7 years or so...
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 1:32 PM PST reply actions
dont forget to add, that VY is also very good at being crazy
by RyanTheRaider on Jan 23, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
But he doesn't get locker room support.
He’s known as Immature..and we need to let Jason get Comfortable.
In WHOEVER GIVES US THE WIN We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Jan 23, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Comfortable? As in have scub ass backups and when JC gets hurt we are super screwed? Heck no.
I could care less wether JC feels confortable or not when another QB has skills and he feels pressured, then too bad for him. We need to have an able backup that can be a starter.
The RaiderLaker
RyanTheRaider, and NFLanalyzefromhome, no worries, Vince Young is not as crazy as purported....
What he was is immature, sometimes a change is what is needed to get a player on track. On Campbell comfortable or not if he wants to be the starter he has to be the best player on the team at his position, if not, then he is the number two. As a football player all you ask is that you are not overlooked because of an inferior player. Politics is rampant meaning you have players starting that have no business doing so, not because of their game, but because they are the coaches pet, yes, even in the NFL..J-Russ is an example of that, Al’s pet played when we all knew he wasn’t ready. If you aren’t comfortable with competition as a player then you don’t need to be a Raider. If Young pushes you as a player to always bring your A game its good for the Raiders. I heard the same thing about Mike Vick, look Vince Young is a proven playmaker and with our talent he would thrive, and our organization is like NO other. He would do well in Oakland, and the locker room would not be a problem, this kid knows he would have a chance to build new relationships, a fresh start…
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 4:23 PM PST reply actions
Haven't we learned
From not letting Campbell be comfortable as the #1 QB?
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
No man, no. Bad idea. This is not what's best for the team. Blatant worship on your part.
Injuries happen and we must be prepared.
The RaiderLaker
i think campbell will be fine if we get a good backup
but assure him he is our guy, he cant be pulled if he has a bad game .
by RyanTheRaider on Jan 24, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Ok I'm sick of this fucking worship garbage
I have repeatedly called Campbell and average/good QB, nothing more, so GTFO with that nonsense.
Second, I never said I was opposed to depth. Obviously we have to be prepared for injuries. I said we have to let him get comfortable. In other words, don’t bring in a guy to push him for the starting job so he’s worried he’ll get pulled after like 6 quarters if he’s not Joe Montana.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
Ok then, no more worship stuff. GET OFF OF HIS HIS D*CK.
If we can bring in VY or CP, then bring them in. It’s what’s best for the team, plus injuries will happen, we can’t get stuck with a garbage QB. Unless we retain Gradz.
The RaiderLaker
It's like you refuse to read what I actually wrote
I give up
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
Hue is the HC now. If Hue decides it, then it must be a legit reason since he's coached up
some QB’s into good QB’s. He’s been successful.
The RaiderLaker
so he didnt freak out,talk to his THERAPIST about suicide, then drive away with a gun?
oh wait he did do that, HES FUCKING CRAZY!!!
by RyanTheRaider on Jan 24, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
The top Five we have a shot at
pending who/how other teams of course:
there are nine positions that will have at least the top 4 drafted:
QB, T, G, WR, DE, DT, OLB, S, CB
three will have top 3 drafted:
RB, C, MLB
one position that will have only 2 drafted: TE
(not expecting a P or K drafted in top 50)
thats 47 picks before we draft at #48
Hero66 so are you saying Campbell needs to feel comfy to be a effective starter...lol
A football player can care less about that when he can play. At the end of the day, I want the strongest roster with the best players possible. Right now, in my opinion Vince Young would offer that, now, if I am Jason Campbell I wouldn’t worry about it, because Jason as Vince is a football player. If I play the best I am on the field, if I don’t have no business out there any way. Campbell in my opinion is to indecisive, he will lose games for you, Vince is more of a player maker, stronger arm, and is not afraid to take off with the ball if need be. If I am just looking for a back up then I go get McNabb, oh, that won’t work because he would bench Campbell also, Campbell is only a fair QB, he is NOT the answer at QB for the Raiders. Just like I said last year, we should have picked up Vick, but people lost their minds. Look this is football, at the end of the day you earn your position. At least with Campbells skill set, and mental ability, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Tom Brady, these guys are elite QB’s Campbell is NOT in the ballpark, Vince Young is closer than Campbell is and he barely played last year.
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions
But I do see your point Hero66, I just look at things directly, Campbell with a soft backup is NOT a better player, we are just a weaker team..
by Rodney Sacramento on Jan 23, 2011 8:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Campbell's play was well above average once Bruce was done for the season
He even said he got better because he got more comfortable, at least in so many words. He played hesitantly earlier in the year because he would get benched.
Vince Young is not close to those QBs. Nor is Campbell. But Cambpell is a lock to be at least average, and is likely to be a good QB. Young is disruptive and a lunatic at his best might be as good as Campbell at his best. He will not be happy sitting on the bench.
"Some field has fences, and sometime, the field cant hold a player, but most of the time, a field cant hold Domingo"
www.domingobeisbol.com/Domingo/Home.html
Raiders do not have to move
up toofar anyway to get a top OT,CB,DL this year as after the top ten picks, mock drafts have the next 22 players up and down, in n out,
Raiders have a great shot at getting:
CBs J Smith, Colo or others ranked 3-5
Cs Wisnewski, Penn St or Hudson, FSU
Austin, DT, UNC
OTs Gilbert, Sherrod, Carpenter, (Smith of USC they would have to move up to get)
LBs Jones, Rolle, Irving, Foster
or either of the two premier RBs out of Oregon or Oregon St
I say we stay where we are and see what we get.
We need the money to sign Nnamdi and Seymour back.
Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!
Great article great research and comments too......
One of the many reasons I am a Raiders fan being out here in San Diego you run into alot of fans who run their mouths and know nothing of football. That all being said I think everyone has forgot about Bruce Campbell, dont be surprised if he makes our starting lineup next year across from Veldheer he has a great work ethic and keeps himself in awesome physical shape. With a year of learning the system under his belt I think he may be the answer at the RT position. I would love to see our vets on D come back especially Seymor and Nnamdi if we can afford to sign him. I also like that there is 212 free agents available next year (due to their not being a CBA in place) we could adress alot of our needs through free agency. And with the best scouts in the buisness I think the Raiders will have no problem getting solid late round pickups to cover our O-line and defensive backfield. The 2 guys I would like to see join our team is WR Vincent Jackson and D-coordinator Winston Moss. Next season is going to be great I can feel it !
GO RAIDERS!!!
Bongsmoke
draftable players
qb-ben chappell(indiana),jurrell casey-dt(usc),martez wilson-lb(illinois),deandre brown-wr(so.miss.),tandon doss-wr(indiana),kris o’dowd-oc(usc),vincent brown-wr(sdsu),jonas mouton-lb(michigan),adrien moten-lb(maryland),brandon burton-cb(utah)…i don’t want the raiders to go with an offensive tackle or guard in this draft,too many free agents will be available.plus they have the o-line depth to allow gallery,walker and carslyle to leave.loper can take gallery’s guard spot,bruce campbell into carslyle’s guard spot,veldheer and henderson starting at the tackle spots.free agents to be signed as o-line depth and a possible starter at center.go with drafting one CB,one FS,one LB,one DT,one pass catching TE,one big and sure handed WR,and finally a big bruising RB.if a more than promising big center is available without moving up in a round to get him,then push the RB position off the list.
free safeties
for the raiders,i don’t think FS is as needed as a lot of people think even with Huff probably leaving.i think Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell can step in at FS and get it done better than Huff,even Hiram Eugene made more plays than Huff,when he got his few chances. now if Sands is catching peoples eyes the way it seems already,then the raiders could be in position to do a sign and trade scenario with the many potential free agents they have on the roster on draft day.if i was AL DAVIS,i would be signing certain players that have at least third and fourth round tags on them like Bush and Gallery.this would be happening behind the scenes like every negotiation should and without the media ever hearing about it.the coaching carousel can wait.
Raiders are strong at Safety
Mr. Stevie Brown could earn a starting gig at FS with a strong camp (yes as of now their won’t be one), 34mm could be the Mr George Atkitson of the new millenium. Which would make Mr. Tyvon Branch our special teams ace, his skills and style of play suits that position more, looking for the big play.
Branch could be even better than Mr. Cartwright (whom I hope the Raiders resign for special teams) and Mr. Eugene who also excelled at STs ( and should be resigned at the right price).
I agree with you on Stevie Brown that guy is a beast and Mitchell is the hard-hitting
enforcer that has been missing from the Raiders since Eric Turner!
Bongsmoke
Any One of These Five
Jimmy Smith CB, Colorado
Troy Smith T, USC
Marvin Austin, DT North Carolina
Ryan Kerrigan DE, Purdue
Pouncey or Wisnewski C either one (and resign Satele)
if not any of these are available, I can see the Raiders moving back to get more draft picks this year.
this being that Newton, Locher, Ingram do not fall all the way to #48.
It's really up in the air but would love to see most of the same guys come back.
Our O-line looked pretty good and it will be interesting if Gallery resigns as he was highly paid and did suffer injuries. Also, Carlisle may look to retire in a couple years. So maybe look for a G. Our T’s were good.
LB’s were good but lacked depth as Howard was injured and Williams is special teams guy.
We have two CB’s up for free agency so I’m sure CB will be on the list. I don’t think a solid CB will be found past the second round. And can not see a rookie CB playing that much.
Huff got a lot of grief about tackling but he did make close to 100 tackles so maybe if he didn’t have to tackle so often… Get low get low! Will Huff eventually be moved to CB?
Bruce Campbell could play TE or Guard as well. I think it would be interesting to see him play DE with his speed. Looks like he is being groomed to play OLine.
Trading up to get Pouncey would be smart. He is a first rounder.
Our needs will be unknown until FA’s are resigned but I think the draft will come first and make some players more expendable. Last year the team was pretty solid and would like to see that same unit.
What Are You Smokin ????
Our Tackle’s were good ???!!! Once Velhdeer got acclimated, he showed improvement !!! Our Right side, we need help, and we needed it yesterday !!!! Yesterday being last year !!! Hopefully in FA, we can address that spot. Maybe even Campbell may be ready to fill that spot, if he’s not taking Gallery’s spot. That puts us in a wait & see mode, on that !!! But the Draft will bring us depth, at this position, for theres quite a few good tackles, coming out this year !!!
Just for the recoed I am smoking some OG Kush but papa dont worry dude Hugh will
adress the Tackle scenario, I too beleive that we had some horrible pass protection the run blocking wasnt too bad though.
Bongsmoke
"or battle Mario henderson for the starting RT position."
Did anyone else throw up in their mouths after reading this? Or am I the only one tasting 3 hour old tuna?
by Nnamdi Asomugha on Jan 25, 2011 11:36 PM PST reply actions
I think
2nd round: Herzlich
3rd round: OL
4th: Jaiquawn Jarret
5th: CB
6th: DT(project under Seymour and Kelly)
7th round: OL
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
formerly patriotguy2 ;)
I like Jarrett
If he makes it to the 4th, I wouldn’t mind taking him.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 27, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks to the Robert Gallery fiasco, I dont believe the Raiders will be taking a lineman any time soon with their first selection whether its the first round or 2nd.
My feeling on this is that the Raiders are gonna sit at where they are at in the 2nd rd and more than likely draft Bruce Carter to compliment their first round pick last year in Rolando McClain. Quentin Groves isnt the answer at LB, neither is Trevor Scott even though they moved him back to end. Thomas Howard was put on special teams and is a free agent. Kamerion Wimbley played well but is also a free agent. The depth at the linebacker position is scarce and Carter is that kind of freak that the Raiders go for.
Also by taking Carter this year with the first round pick it opens the door for the Raiders in 2012 to draft Travis Lewis from Oklahoma in the first round and complete a stupendous linebacking corps. Something they havent had since the days of Millen, Hendricks, Martin and Squriek.
I also take into account that the Raiders hit on Jared Veldheer in the 3rd rd this past year. They also got Bruce Campbell in the 4th rd when everyone would have swore that the Raiders would take him 8th overall.
The center I think to keep an eye out for is Alex Linnenkohl out of Oregon State. I think the Raiders will take him in one of the later rounds. But I also expect the Raiders to go hard in free agency after offensive lineman. Deuce Lutui and Ryan Khalil I think will be pursued the most aggressive since they both played at USC together and fit the power blocking scheme the Raiders are gonna re incorporate.
I think you may be on to something
I could see Oakland taking Bruce Carter with the 47th pick. Using DE’s like Groves and Scott to fill in at OLB hasn’t helped the run defense. Depending on what happens in FA, if the Raiders don’t select a CB in the 2nd round, then Carter is one of the few OLB’s with a 2nd round grade at this point. Plus, from what I’ve read, he is an excellent overall athlete and possesses sideline-to-sideline range.Takes sound angles to the ball and does a nice job of maneuvering through traffic, which should improve our run defense.
I have also heard the name Alexander Linnenkohl of Oregon State mentioned as a possible late round selection for the Raiders. He probably would not be the type of player that could start immediately, but could be developed as a future replacement for Satale.
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