Al Trusts Hue
The more information that comes out the more it shows that Hue has Al's trust more than any coach we have had in a long time.
“The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation,” - Mr Davis
Found this presentation from Bleacher report:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/452303-oakland-raiders-becoming-hue-jacksons-team-looks-like-al-davis-trusts-him#page/1
which prompted some thought in relation to our owner, our new head coach and the state of the Raiders moving forward.
Al Davis is allowing Hue Jackson to conduct all interviews for the defensive co-ordinator position, I cannot remember the last time that the coach was allowed to pick his own DC for the Raiders and illustrates Mr Davis's trust in Hue Jackson and perhaps a loosening of the influence Mr Davis is said to have on the D.
Also all of the interviewees are proponents of the 3-4 scheme which would be a major change in philosophy from what we have seen from the Raiders for many years (although all our super bowls were won in a 3-4) but with Hue coming from Baltimore it seems Hue is being allowed to implement his philosophy on defence as well as offence. I personally like the idea of moving to a 3-4 and if Hue can infuse the same attitude and similar scheme that they run in Baltimore I would be ecstatic. The interesting thing for me would be how our current D-Line personnel would fit into a 3-4 as you would think Seymour and Houston would be the ends but I can not see how Tommy Kelly fits as I do not see him making it as a NT.
Hue has also hired his own OC in Al Saunders from Baltimore all these things point to a new era in Oakland with a coach that fully Al trusts and while i think Al's influence has been overstated in the past, Mr Davis seems to be giving much more control to the head coach than any I can remember in a long time as in recent history Al has really been putting the coaching staff together himself, and is also seems that the hiring of Wiz was Hue's call as well judging from his comments.
I personally have full confidence in Hue and feel that he is the right man to take us to the promised land and am nothing but encouraged by the way he has taken ownership of this proud franchise and moves he has made so far, Hue seems to be trying to make the Raiders, Ravens 2.0 which is fine with me as I have always loved and respected the way the Ravens play.
There are also some interesting things in there about Gaither (who I have said should be our number one target for a while) and Le'ron Mclain should Bush leave.
The bottom line is that Al seems to be giving Hue full power to build the whole team - both sides of the ball to his vision which is what many have been pining for for a long time.
This is a new era in Raider Nation, we are building the new Bully of the NFL, I seriously can not wait until next season.
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I believe Al and Hue have conferred much of late, and both are clear on what they're looking for in a DC
Which, knowing Al, has probably been in the works for quite some time now, which we will not find out for certain until well after it happens, and then only by hearsay.
It has been speculated here that someone possibly on a super bowl team, and even winner, could already be headed to Oakland post season. As clandestine as this organization is, I cannot say there is any truth to this or to the contrary. But I feel it is a more real possibility than ever, and that gets me fired up for what’s to come.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
All signs seem to point to that.
I suspect it might be Moss since he coached here before. I don’t know what if any relationship Hue has with Moss. It looks like they want someone who has coached with Capers at GB, some talk today about a defensive back coach Perry of GB also.
Time will tell but I would think that if they were targeting any other coach rumors would already be swirling but since there is almost no news, I suspect it is some one on the GB staff.
I am happy we are putting a staff together.
If we put a defensive staff together that can blitz, zone blitz, play zone, and base we will have a top 5 defense. The problem is finding someone who is able to call that defense. We really have to stop the run this year if we want to go to the playoffs.
I don't see it so much as Al giving Hue full-power but as a collaboration of Al and Hue - two minds that think alike with
Hue providing new energy and both men bouncing ideas off each other and reaching consensus before key reaching and executing key decisions. I too admire Baltimore’s style of play – it reminds me of the smash-mouth Raider teams of yore. And, I’m also amenable to moving to a 3-4 as half the leagues’ teams now use – if not more. The 3-4, according to Pat Kirwin, takes 2 years to install and my only concern is that we have such an excellent DL right now for a 4-3. In fact, our Defensive weakness isn’t the DBs so much (nor, of course the DL) but the LBs – the very element that we need help in. So, realistically, we would need 2 more LBs and a True NT to make the 3-4 work. Finally, what becomes of our excellent DLmen when 25% of the DL is reduced? Who goes?
Thoughtful Post, Oz. Rec’d
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
Thanks Son's, you're right full power maybe a stretch but at least they are clearly on the same page.
the time frame under which it takes to install also is a concern to myself but as Al has said the Raiders play with a vision to winning the superbowl, I think being a true superbowl calibre team in the next two years is unrealistic and we also have a number of key players such as Rolando and Big Dick that have played a lot of 3-4 before. Even with the time to adjust I think we still are talented enough to be win the AFC West I guess the bigger concern for me would be installing the 3-4 in a situation where we may not have a training camp due to the CBA.
I think if we switched to the 3-4 Kelly may be traded as i find it less likely that Al would let Seymour go and letting Houston go would be insane. I also thing the player that may benefit the most from the switch assuming it happened would me Houston as he seems the perfect 3-4 end to me.
Even with the current roster we could have a solid 3-4 set up with Wimbley and Scott (I think Scott is much more suited to LB in the 3-4 than he was in the 4-3) the outside LB’s McLain and Ricky/Goethel in the middle and a front 3 of Seymour, Bryant and Houston. I think Bryant has improved greatly and could be a solid NT for a year at least and I think the number one need would be another inside LB instead of Brown and Goethel but that could be filled easily in free agency or the draft.
It would definitely be a shame to dismantle this great line we have built but it seems like everyone in line for the job is a 3-4 guy.
(AL) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) You Got A Big Fat Belly
(LOSE) You Fucked It Up Already
I wonder how Shaughnessy would fair at ILB and Mitchell at OLB? Travis has shown me he can play ILB
… then, the Warden strong-side and Death weak-side OLBs.
As you say, Seymour and Houston at DT but Kelly and Bryant rotating at Nose (if Desmond improves as much this season as he did between ‘09 & ’10 – he’ll be a Pro-Bowler. We re-sign Henderson and replace Ricky “the mummy” Brown and San Quentin).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 29, 2011 5:40 AM PST up reply actions
I think Mitchell should have seen more time at safety with the up and down play of Tyvonn, He is my breakout player for next year but I am a little biased when it comes to Mitch
I definitely think he could be an impact player at OLB in a 3-4, he had success in the 4-3 at the position and with the way you can move LB’s around to free up blitzers in a 3-4 would make him even more potent in my opinion, but I also see him as potentially our Ed Reed, I think he should start at SS next year and pinch hit at LB with Tyvonn spelling him.
I’ve never really considered what Shaughnessy would be like as a LB, he would probably have to be use exclusively as a blitzer as he would get torched trying to cover TE’s and Running Backs but as a situational blitzer why the hell not give it a go. I am all for moving players around to keep the offence off balance. One good idea i just had with Shaughnessy at LB is that you use him almost as a DT with a running start and just have him cannon in to the guard or centre knocking them on their ass almost like a fullback opening a hole for someone like Mitchell, so fundamentally it would be a 4-3 formation………now that would be an aggressive defensive play.
I agree I would like to see Henderson back, It is probably time for Ricky to move on but I wouldn’t mind Groves coming back for another go I think he has talent as a pass rusher.
(AL) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) You Got A Big Fat Belly
(LOSE) You Fucked It Up Already
I believe in Hue. Let's hope this is the guy that will last with the Raiders for years to come.
He is young enough to get us into several super bowls with the promise he has shown so far.
It certainly seems that way
but also remember the last time Al seemed to give a new coach leeway. Lance Kiffin at first seemed to be completely in charge his first few months on the job, even giving interviews to booster clubs right in front of Raiders HQ (letting them through the gate even). There were all kinds of rumors on hires and player aquisitiions that never came to pass and in fact were shot down by Al. At first Kiffin seemed to be calling the shots but eventually, long before things went sour between them, Al reigned him in.
So all of this could be just because it’s a new situation. It is 100% certain that Al is informed of everything that goes on regardless and no decisions are made without him signing off on it. Hue does have Al’s confidence but there are limitations to his authority for sure.
Also rec'd, Oz. I believe Al does fully trust Hue
And just like so many guys who have come before him, it’ll be Hue’s trust to lose with him. the difference I believe we’ll get with Hue is coming out of the gate winning. We cannot lose sight of the fact that all the short-lived terms prior coaches have earned were completely marked by brutal win-loss percentages. If it works, we can expect Hue to last much longer. All in all, it’s definitely premature to say Al will continue to trust Mr. Jackson.
I believe it’s not a carte Blanche thing, but that they’ve discussed, probably down to even names of prospects, and are in agreement on who that might be, should the guys accept the offers. What’s exciting about it all is that is demonstrates that Al and staff have a clear vision for this teams continued development and future, and thus far, all signs point to big things for our Oakland Raiders.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
I think you identified the cause of the widespread upbeat vibe in the Nation. I don't believe Al has made an impulsive move for over a year
What’s exciting about it all is that is demonstrates that Al and staff have a clear vision for this teams continued development and future,
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 29, 2011 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
correct me if I'm wrong, but Al has not made any rash decisions since signing "-" and overpaying Shame
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
"We had to get back to who we are, and that's physical and smash-mouth." - Robert Gallery 12/5/2010
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 29, 2011 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
You are correct
Nothing else hasn’t ended up in Al’s favor since. Knocking on wood.
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."--John Madden
""The massive Raider Nation is beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled."--Hunter S. Thompson
Al has had a hot hand the last few years and I think even over paying Lechler was not necessarily a bad or rash move
the fact he was able to retain those free agents that offseason was a master stroke in my opinion.
You are definitely right in saying it is way too early that these good vibes between Hue and Al will last for an extended period but from Al’s quote about Hue and the fact that he has at least allowed Hue some level of control that he hasn’t with a coach for a long time says to me that Al really feels like he finally has his guy which bodes well for maybe finally getting some extended stability to the franchise.
(I) Fuck with your soul like Ether
(WILL) Teach you the king you know you
(NOT) God's son across the belly
(LOSE) You know you lost already

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